This triggers the retards
convince me that america is a functional country where integrity and success can coexist, and not just a giant strip mall where you scam people in socially conformed ways. i'll wait
>>545830352>Democrats, expecting more production to pay the increasing taxes of corporations and income, cut the work week in halfYou're all idiots incapable of one coherent thought
>>545830513start your own business and make it happen, bro. what's the point of being a Capitalist, if you don't start a business? it's a free market, join it
but you don't get better wages if you flood the country with millions of scab spics and jeets from every shithole country on the planetnot that republicans don't do the same thing, but still, at least try to have a coherent platform
More people are collecting social security than paying into it right now. It's literally unsustainable.
>>545830352>le higher wagesYou mean ABOVE minimum wage?That is $52.01 right now.Do they pay you more than that to shill?I think the Democrats don't care any more than the Republicans.No one is even getting to minimum wage, much less over.
>>545830352>cut taxes for billionaires, little republican>we promise it will make america great again
In all fairness Japan feels the same way about tipping...
>higher wages>no one will hire you without confirming you are politically aligned with them
>>545830865Why are you trying to cut immigration then? It's like conservatives feel entitled to everything while making no sacrifices.
>>545830352That's not how economy works you baboon
>>545830352>What they claim to want>Higher wages, less work hours!>What they really want>Infinity third worlders which plummets wages and quality of lifeHmm.
>>545831096do you really think most of the incoming immigrants will contribute more than they drain?
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>>545830352>Implying trans want MAGA to be happy and healthy,You want MAGA dead.
>>545830865End all welfare programs and foreign aid and I bet we pay for it just fine
>>545831307Sure, that’ll happen anytime soon, especially now, yeah.
>>545831148Hours worked isn't a 1:1 metric to productivity lol. Japan has some of the highest hours worked in the developed world, but most of that time is spent doing fuck all and being performative, so they end up producing much less than many western countries with restricted hours, paid vacation time, etc. Why are "fiscal conservatives" always ignorant of basic economic variables like this?
>>545831170Yes, we have data on this actually. Immigrants are much more productive on average than people born in a given country.
>>545831307>End all welfare programsyou mean like social security
>>545831096>Why are you trying to cut immigration thenBecause immigrants don't actually work?
>>545831436Why are you making up easily disprovable lies? If you can't have a pragmatic conversation about the data, your thoughts on it are worthless anyway.
>>545831394I'm not asking if they would be more productive, I'm asking if they'll be paying more taxes.
I actually heard a retard i know (seriously I think hes actually retarded) complain in 2026 about the 15 dollar minimum wage thing. You know the bit from 2015? I just laughed, even taco bell pays like 22 an hour now, who the fuck still thinks the minimum wage is what's impacting inflation?
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>>545831502With a progressive tax bracket, people who earn more, pay more taxes. Your country had progressive tax brackets before. Why not do it again?
>>545831474Immigrants work very hard, that's why all their nations, without exception, across the entire globe, are complete shitholes where nobody does any real work.Even if we assume the most radical of positions where they work harder than the natives (they don't), they send the money back to their home countries, removing it from the economy. Literally leeches.
>>545831394Wrong vile shit colored jeet leech. You just enter into fields that are already booming and undercut domestic wages, you're not actually productive. You're counterproductive even when best displayed. You completely unnecessary inferior nigger.
>>545831591>Immigrants work very hardYes, we have data for that.>that's why all their nations, without exception, across the entire globe, are complete shitholesIt's the people who stay in the country that make it shitholes, not the people who leave it lol. This is very very elementary stuff to learn. Again, we have data on immigrant productivity. Your emotions about it don't change any of the numbers.>>545831641None of this is a serious argument. You come across like a tantruming child.
>>545830352>Higher wages15 years ago, $10 an hour was lovely. Now it means fuck-all.5 years ago, $15 an hour was lovely. Now it means fuck-all.Where will we be in 5 years when we make $20 an hour now to be lovely?>Less hoursYou'll have less hours working one job that you can now work two and get none of the full-time benefits at either.Oh and let's also make it so that working two jobs is now the new expectation, so making $800 a week will now have to change how the entire economy works.Your stupid mindless fucking drone of a head can't wrap around this fucking concept because we should NOT be printing trillions of dollars for the government to tax ad nauseam for your free healthcare and other nonsensical bullshit you cry for.>This triggers the retardsThe only fucking retard here is the one unwilling to shoot their fucking mouth off and rightfully put your fucking retarded mathematical impossibility to fucking rest.
>>545831749>It's the people who stay in the country that make it shitholes, not the people who leave itThey're the same people, in fact often the people who leave, come back. And the people who stay, eventually leave.
>>545830352FEWER hours
>>545831863>They're the same people,Anon, this is physically impossible. You're claiming actual voodoo.>in fact often the people who leave, come backTo visit family? Yes, that's true. People in USA also visit other countries.
>>545831579>With a progressive tax bracket, people who earn more, pay more taxes. Your country had progressive tax brackets before. Why not do it again?Because with too high of a tax burden, many of the businesses who would be paying those higher taxes will just move their operations to other countries with lower taxes. Then you end in a worse position than you start in. A country with even more immigrants, and even fewer jobs between all of them.
>>545831942>Because with too high of a tax burden, many of the businesses who would be paying those higher taxes will just move their operations to other countries with lower taxes.No, because they want to sell their product/service in American markets. American corporations very frequently will even expand to countries with much higher taxes. There are walmarts in Canada.
>>545831938>To visit familyNo, to buy homes with the money they obtained in the nations they parasitized.
>>545830352What's with the hair colors? Who the fuck dyes their hair with toxic chemicals like a faggot I also hate MIGA retards too btw kek
Meanwhile, in reality. Democrats just assassinate people who disagree with them and then cheer and rally around the corpse like a bunch of demons. "Wages and Healthcare" my ass.
>>545831245Don't be such a chuddy
>>545830352>less hours“Fewer,” not “less.”The “hard working blue collar guy” meme was always cringe. It’s not a flex. You shouldn’t work like a thrid worlder just to afford a normal standard of living.
>>545832059I know you're having fun with your weird escapism, but you should consider expressing these things to a therapist instead of 4chan. Post meaningful data or no one cares.
>>545832028>No, because they want to sell their product/service in American markets. American corporations very frequently will even expand to countries with much higher taxes. There are walmarts in Canada.You can sell your product in america without having your factory in america. Increasing jobs does not do much to drive economic growth if the only jobs available are retail and fast food. I don't have a problem with immigration.I do have an issue with seeing the population go up while the number of livable jobs go down, and thinking this is sustainable, and won't result in desperate people working for the lowest possible wage.
Do Democrats not understand that 1. You’ll get higher wages, but YOULL get taxed more so it means nothing and 2. These policies DO NOT pertain to White men? It’s about everyone else, the world is a pie and it only has limited slices, are people deliberately ignorant to this???Also don’t forget the Democrats have no problem with millions of people coming over to take—yes, take, jobs away from Americans. Their whole model is that everyone is to be poor, humiliated and reliant on the state.
>>545830352It's "fewer work hours", you communist mongoloid faggot.
>>545830352communist ploys to gather support.
>>545831802>15 years ago, $10 an hour was lovely. Now it means fuck-all.>5 years ago, $15 an hour was lovely. Now it means fuck-all.if by lovely you mean living in a storage container and eating rice and beans every day fyi you will never be a billionare
>>545832245>You can sell your product in america without having your factory in america.No one disputed this.>Increasing jobs does not do much to drive economic growth if the only jobs available are retail and fast food.No one disputed this.>I do have an issue with seeing the population go up while the number of livable jobs go downIs this even happening? You guys make up so much bullshit about the world that I can never know if your claims are true or not, and you never post evidence for any of it.
>>545831749>None of this is a serious argument.Wrong and stupid. Yes it is you lesser being.You're not "contributing" anything, you're not even capable of contributing.The only thing you contribute is going into fields that should be 250k, 300k, 400k per year income jobs, and wave your shit-encrusted hands at some Jew and say "yas saar yas saar I will do it for 125k dollars, thank you, come again"Then you hire a bunch of otherskin idiots. Result, you have this artificially "high" level of supposed average income that isn't actually contributing anything.Studies show you retards are only ~60% on average as productive per jeet as a white.You just undercut everyone on pay for high-value positions by half and the Jew corporations slurp off the extra labor savings.Yes you vile lowly nigger, even at supposedly "valuable" jobs you're still just the same worthless as fuck Leech that some field hand or carpenter spic undercutting blue collar work is, along with your jeet gas station attendants.You aren't actually good and you aren't actually doing anything of value other than being a source for trillionaires to stack up more money.That goes directly into banks and turns into more credit, debt and loans not actual societal production of anything.>>545831938>To visit family?Yeah to throw what shekels they even make while undercutting people here back to their shitlands full of road stealing trash tossing losers.That would turn this place into the same while shekelberg's coin stack grows slightly higher from it temporarily.
>>545832245>I don't have a problem with immigration.>I do have an issue with seeing the population go up while the number of livable jobs go down, and thinking this is sustainable, and won't result in desperate people working for the lowest possible wage.So you have a problem with immigration then?
>>545832404>StudiesHow convenient that you couldn't post any of them lol
>>545832299>You’ll get higher wages, but YOULL get taxed more so it means nothingIt's even worse, you'll get taxed more and there'll be considerably more inflation, meaning wages will always fall behind and your savings are worthless.
>>545832373>Is this even happening?is what even happening? the population going up? or that when employers leave, they take the jobs with them?
>>545830352https://youtu.be/yECo3qSoHxA?si=EIFb87gRA1vjcoBx
That's not what you communigger cocksuckers say at all.
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>>545832121“Work hard for people who hate me”Yes, by REPLACING them. DON’T YOU GET IT? DOES ANYBODY GET IT?
That works on stupid lazy europeans. Now the economy of the entire continent is collapsing, and all the free shit they are demanding costs too much for them to pay for anything else. Prosperity means you actually have to work for it. Put in some fucking hours instead of rioting.
>>545832442And I'm not going to same as you haven't posted anything you idiot nigger. I don't care to convince some shit skinned invader that is undercutting domestic wages why they are still a useless leech. You are a lesser creature that is beneath me.I don't care to convince some brown retard that he isn't a brown retard. We can look at from whence you spawn, animal.If you were that damn valuable monkey, your nation wouldn't look like 99% of the place is a white nation's rural frontier that was perpetually frozen in time from 1915.You are a ball and chain forever stuck over a century behind whatever the current state is of white nations. When we decline from your poisonous presence you'll slide back further, I doubt you idiots are even going to have electricity soon enough if you keep ruining things here.
>>545832445I don’t understand why people don’t care about this? Yes, Trumped fucked everything with the Iran war but literally people aren’t going to have any agency anymore. To the people that voted Democrat for “muh free shit”: you WON’T get it and you’re going to be REPLACED by people who will
>>545831199Haha so true, this is what life in Europe is like!!!
>>545830642The platform is to get the retards to hand over their rights to the government and their country to low IQ docile replacements in exchange for a never to be fulfilled promise of a higher wages and a better quality of life like the OP suggests. Leftists think they are voting for their own interests but they are just really gullible fools.
>>545830352you can have those without strict border control a huge reduction in immigration and mass expulsion of scamming illegalsthe left of course, is against all that
