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is it possible to live completely off grid?
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No you idiot. You would have to live like a Hunter Gatherer. Even the Mountain Men traded with locals
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>>545878072
Yes, but its not how you city niggers imagine it
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>>545878072
it is possible. look at the pygmies
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>>545878072
probably in some tribe in Africa humans are herd animals
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What loot should I look out for in your little shack
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>>545878072
It's incredibly expensive and that is on purpose
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>>545878072
Yes, but you need to learn survival skills in hostile environments. There are probably different courses for this. After your learn these things just get rid of all electronics and hit the road.
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>>545878111
Learn what off grid means before answering, you dumb ass.
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>>545878072
No. You'll still need money to pay for property taxes and supplies.
You won't be able to live off hunting and foraging, because they'll do you for poaching.
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Of course, only need reliable water source, access to renewable firewood and a good stock of heirloom seeds (the wood source is obviously hunting/gathering as well) I've got 2/3, working on the water source atm
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>>545878072
No, all life started on the primordial grid, the grid precedes all life.
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>>545878282
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>>545878072
With other people yes, alone absolutly no
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>>545878072
no because (((property tax))) forces you to participate in the economy or the feds send thugs to your house to shoot your dog.

Closest you can get is professional vagrancy, but the faggot cops still throw you in jail for sleeping outside.
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>>545878072
Yes, but if you get sick or have an accident you are fucked.
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>>545878072
Yes, but also no.
You'll need to pay your taxes or they'll come and kick you off your land, if you decide to forgo land and live in the forest they'll find you with thermals, confiscate your stuff, and send you to jail.
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>>545878365
I’ve been poaching for decades retard, so has everyone else. Man europeans have fucken DOWN SYNDROME.
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>>545878072
Its easier if you have a yacht
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>>545878428
>property tax
>feds
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No. Literally only north Sentinel island and maybe a handful of jungle niggers do this. Calculate the percentage of total humanity those people are. Statistically equivalent to functionally impossible
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>>545878072
Of course it is.
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>>545878072
Yes. Any person or collective of persons who attempts to truly live "off the grid" will be visited by one of several letter gangs. Good luck finding a plot of land that isnt taxed or doesnt violate some multinational zoning agreement. Yeah you could live under a tarp innawoods and hide forever, eating garbage and half-rotted game until you shit yourself to death, but I think you need a better standard of living if you want to be able to defend wherever it is you call home.
Running away is not an option in the modern age, that is a defeatist fantasy.
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>>545878072
of course, but you'll constantly be on the move. even if you buy land to go live off of, the government will want their taxes every year. the only way is to take gear and just vanish into the most secluded section of the forest you can find
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>>545878282
> After your learn these things just get rid of all electronics and hit the road.

A based and intelligent suggestion. Don’t take your fucking phones lmao
>>545878399
the jew answered honestly and on topic anon. There’s no need to shit on moishe when he isn’t being a disingenuous turd.
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>>545878625
> but you'll constantly be on the move.

It is the natural state of Indo-Europeans to begin with. We need to get back to it.
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>>545878072
Yes, last time I cheeked humanity has existed before electricity and basic infrastructure.
How could we invente it otherwise?
The hard part is that the gouvernement is not going to let you do that.
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yes, lots of people do it, some people even make a lot of money doing it by posting videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXXzmse0utA

and yes, the jews fucking hate it
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>>545878546
So, those guys get to live in peace and mostly be left alone other than day to day life? Sounds fantastic, no wonder they have decades to live and have families and be able to reproduce and pass on their cultures. They’re not getting eaten alive constantly
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>>545878072
We all live off-grid. The MCP and Sark gatekeep entry to the Grid and ENCOMs laser is now locked away.
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>>545878768
>The hard part is that the gouvernement is not going to let you do that.

The world is on the verge of some fairly big changes I think bud.
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>>545878842
>MCP
Model context protocol? Are you an LLM bro subtleposting?
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Completely? No, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. You can't really go 100% in a reasonable manner but you can get 95% there. There are places in west Texas and north Idaho where the only building code is a requirement for a septic tank. Beyond that, build whatever death trap you want. If your home collapses and kills you, it'll probably be a couple of decades before your ten dollars of unpaid property taxes causes the property to be sold at auction and your bones found by the new owner.
And if you're willing to risk it, rural areas in lots of states technically have building codes but there's no one actively looking for violations. It's not unless someone complains that the county will come take a look. Compare that to most cities and suburbs where they do all manner of tricky shit like mounting cameras on garbage trucks to do visual diffs on your property looking for unauthorized and untaxed upgrades.
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In a hypothetical fight between the American people and the federal government, the state police would side with the federal government and take up arms against the American people. So yes, state police feds.
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>>545878657
Thanks bro. The next time we give 40000000000000000 billion dollars to Israel, I'll remember that
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>>545878870
I hope so, but I've been hoping for a long time so I'm not counting on it.
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>>545878921
Easiest way for me to find out that you're not old (be thankful, stay as young as possible, anon).
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>>545878072
Not with a tax ID.
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>>545879007
Rural sheriffs would side with the people. Urban sheriffs usually are there to do paperwork so they're not really on either side since they're paper pushers. The suburban sheriffs would be the tie breaker. The combined size of the rural and suburban sheriffs would easily overpower those of the state police force.
What about the National Guard? The average rednecks who get to play in the woods for a couple of weeks a year? Who do you think they're siding with? Their neighbors or the freaks in DC?
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>>545878282
Finally, a good Jewish anon. You’d also want to bring waterproof books (if possible) on such survival subjects. Especially local plants and mushrooms. You don’t want to end up like that into the wild guy who ate the wrong berries. Your tools will wear out eventually as well so it’s good to know how to make your own. Once you go into the wild you kind of have to stay there. It’s illegal
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>>545878072
Sure but to what extent? Simply living off-grid but still working on it OR both living and working outside of it? It's becoming harder since even as a basic laborer you still have to access the internet and own a phone to remain employed.
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>>545878072
It's a very hard life. There's a reason why people prefer living in cities
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I took this pic and yes. I'd live near water, preferably the ocean. And don't be a canning fag. Buy a vacuum sealer and run it off of solar.
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>>545878072
It isn't advisable, because if you live 100% off grid spooks will get you.
Better to move to a bumb fuck nowhere village/small town nobody cares about and live there on the fringes. Technically still in the system, but overlooked as irrelevant.
And if civilization should collapse than nothing much would change where you are anyway.
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>>545878072
You can, but why would you want to? It seems like such a pain in the ass to manage your own personal electric grid, not to mention expensive. Plus if something happens with your set up you're screwed and without power. I'd rather go with a decreased reliance on the grid that completely off grid. A septic system and home RO system are also very doable, but municipal water plants can filter out much more contaminants than a home system. Of course you might not have the option for municipal water so you'll be responsible for your jet pump, RO filters, and any other filter system you want to run groundwater through.
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>>545879935
Yeah this is the correct answer. Be alone, but not too alone.
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>>545878072
>live off-grid
>taxman finds you
>you're now paying taxes for enjoying zero benefits of society/civilization except maybe crossing a road here and there
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>>545879959
Only thing bad about municipal water plants is that you're prey to their additives and if you're rural near the end of service lines, you have to purge your lines of sediment regularly. I used to have to do it for my grandfather because the water company would only come out for line breaks but any water lost in the purge wasn't charged to his bill, I just had to notify them beforehand.
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>>545878321
You are beyond saving you fucking dumbass
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>>545878072
Depends on location, it’s easier closer to the equator due to more sunlight and less cold weather.
Also depends on what you expect as standard of living.
You need a fresh water source, no water no go.
>you will still need some sort of income!!!
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>>545878072
Seems like there is confusion about what off-grid means. To some, it means not being hooked up to city water and the electrical grid. To others it seems to mean separating completely from "society".

The first is doable. The second is not.
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>>545878072
No, you have to pay taxes, otherwise they'll shoot your dog and burn your children alive.
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>>545878390
We need to find a way to escape the grid and all linear structures of reality. There is something outside the lines. My first step to achieving freedom is randomly driving 1 mile below or above the speed limit
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Depends on too many factors. If you mean no utilities than yes, but you still have to own the land, follow building codes, and yes pay taxes.
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>>545878072
yes
living off yid is quite enjoyable
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Possible, yes but you have to be this guy. Nobody on 4chan is this tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3fUIoXQ5A
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https://www.youtube.com/live/2XmhH3RKOjY
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>>545878072
I figure you probably can if you live out of a hot tent (so you don't freeze to death in the winter) and can fish or trap enough to survive.
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>>545878072
In those outside wetbulb temperatures?
No you idiot. You'd get cooked alive.
People didn't even exist until electricity.
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>>545878072
Yea, Its not that hard buddy. There is a whole industry that caters to it.
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comf hike
https://youtu.be/pz-P5oOvsHI
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>>545880711
Well you can always just get a home water filter. I have a zero water. That thing works great and removes basically everything.
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Super Epic.
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>>545878122
We'll get the hicks out far before we realize that. So it's a win either way.
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>>545878072
Yes. You mooch off your poor mom working 2 jobs just to feed and house your sorry ass. You are practically living off grid
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>>545878072
https://www.primalsurvivor.net/no-building-codes-usa/

https://explorenuclear.com/maps/map-of-us-nuclear-sites/

I consider ALL nuclear reactors to be doomsday weapons. Each one has THOUSANDS of tons of spent fuel sitting in cooling pools. If ANY of them are hit with a direct nuclear blast it would create contamination a MILLION times worse than Chernobyl. If every nuclear reactor in North America were hit with a nuclear bomb, it would contaminate the entire northern hemisphere.
Plan accordingly.
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>>545878072
It's possible with hard work. A community would make it easier too
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>>545878625
>government will want their taxes every year.
make a fake church
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>>545878321
Why use the qualifier "completely" them?



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