2011: Musk laughs at BYD trying to compete with Tesla.https://streamable.com/n7nnrn2026 reality:Year-to-date through October, BYD sold 3.62 million NEVs. Tesla delivered 1.32 million BEVs over the first nine months and the gap is growing year after year.BYD builds its own Blade LFP batteries, motors, power electronics and semiconductors in-house, giving it cost control and iteration speed Tesla cannot match at mass-market scale. BYD sells more BEVs, exports at record pace, and turns hardware superiority into real products while Teslas hardware lead has fully eroded. BYDs 1,500 kW flash charging is 3x Teslas V4 peak of 500 kW, delivering 10-70% in five minutes. Its 30,000+ rpm motor outspins Teslas 20,000 rpm Plaid, while CTB makes the battery a structural body component, not a bolt-on module.The valuation gap is huge. Tesla near $1.4T, BYD roughly $116B. This exposes mechanisms that undermine faith in US markets and the dollar: US equity capital rewards narrative. Musk promises robotaxi that is already everyday reality all over China. Promises over factory-floor fundamentals. Domestic bias and index flows inflate Murrican incumbents and the dollars reserve status lets US markets sustain valuation premiums disconnected from industrial output. When the company actually building the electric-vehicle era trades at under one-tenth of a rival selling a story, the market is pricing fiction, not supremacy. That erodes confidence that dollar-denominated capital allocates efficiently and that is the deeper record BYDs rise exposes.China taught me to change my perception of value because its Western version based on sums of dollar/euro is completely fake and destined to get brutally resetted. xD
BYD is banned in the free world though.
>>545878759>banned in the free worldBanning is antithesis of freedom tho xD
There's a Chinese stock electric car that can go 312mph
China lost
>>545878539tbf they were not a competitor and everyone else laughed at them. this is like anons laughing at a company now and then in 15 years they are overtaking companies who they thought would never be toppled. China also didn't achieve all this on their own. They haven't been at the forefront of any of the tech, they simply steal it and then can make products cheaper because the wages in China are far lower. The irony is western companies to cut costs, to increase profits set up all the manufacturing in China. Once China were let into the WTO in 2001 it was pretty much over.
>>545879789> they simply steal itThats fkn dumb. BYDs tech is now _far better_ than Teslas so how could they steal it? Stop being silly xD
>>545878793BYD is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. It’s essentially a government organization with that hides its true intentions: buying western companies with they money they get from exports to western companies while buying very little from the west. It is the Chinese/Bongs silver trade problem again. We need to feed the chinks some opium
>>545879926BYD cars are trash that's why their factory run at 50% capacity
China actually expects results from its industries
>>545878539This is why we need to tariff the fuck out of Chinese cars.Btw, Chinks are now letting people buy a 1550 horsepower car for $75,000, which basically has the same performance of a $1.5 million Bugatti. This is extremely dangerous for other countries because there will be more vehicles with super car acceleration and speed on the road. There is a reason only 81 Bugattis were delivered last year as the people who tend to buy them are very rich car enthusiasts who know their way around a car. It's highly irresponsible to let the cars in the hand of a normie pleb driver.https://youtu.be/a3e3-osCNjc?t=648
>>545880016>BYD is heavily subsidized by the Chinese governmentTesla received $11.4 billion in regulatory credits alone, and in 2025 credits were over half its $3.8 billion net profit. BYDs 2025 subsidies were about $1.8 billion - Teslas single-year credit haul nearly matches that. Teslas profit is far more subsidy-dependent xD
>>545878864can it go a full hour without spotaneously combusting tho?
>>545880159I dunno. Can your car go 500 kph?
>I don't see them as a competitorYes, because we have laws preventing that.
>>545880144The only solution for the West to maintain standard of life is 1) mass murder of its citizens and replacing them with data centers and much cheaper immigrants, 2) full reset of the financial system radically reducing purchase power of average Westoid, 3) winning a WW3 vs Russia and China. I think, after the COVID pandemic experience, that Western elites chose the first option foremost xD
>>545880157>Tesla received $11.4 billion in regulatory credits alone, and in 2025 credits were over half its $3.8 billion net profit. BYDs 2025 subsidies were about $1.8 billion - Teslas single-year credit haul nearly matches that. Teslas profit is far more subsidy-dependent xDAI slopEU documents show that BYD is by far the most subsidized cars in the world
>>545880363>EU documentsFuck off retardFed asset price inflation is subsidy by another name, and that's how Tesla got its market cap
>>545880016Pretty much. Their "factory" here just assembles parts that are all built in China. Nothing is manufactured here. They will bankrupt the real auto manufacturers here and take everything for free. With our corrupt government backing them.
>>545880356They wanted one. They are getting two. Edgelords think we will get three. The average American (even the poor) consumes order of magnitude more resources than the average citizen of any other nation. That disparity mathematically can’t be upheld
>>545880540delusional poor person
>>545878759They are banned because Musk whined to Trump and admitted American EV companies couldn’t compete with chinks because if consumers had access to decently made cheap electric vehicles at half the price it would put them out of business
>>545880159go be jealous jeet somewhere else.
>>545879789>they stealYou need a Chinese partner to do business with in China and that includes sharing patents. Amerilard boomers sold all of their tech and manufacturing to China so they could save pennies from each unit.
>>545880583So far entire might of USrael is not enough to bring back maritime freedom in two key ME straits that stopped being free in result of the lost war with Iran. You cant consume the most of worlds resources per capita if you are even too weak to control their flow vs such regional players like Iran. You crush such players like Iran, or you vaccinate your population with modRNA/LNP and replace it with cheaper alternatives. There is no third way.
>>545880899Iran lost
>>545879789>and then can make products cheaperSo what you're saying is that China is capitalist.
>>545880151Are you a Chinese car salesman? You made me want this car.
>>545878759not here. I see them more and more and there are ads on every bus stop right now
>>545879672So Tesla produced less than half as many cars as BYD, with 30x more money? Am I understanding this correctly?
>>545878864>There's a Chinese stock electric car that can go 312mphFrom 0 to 312 degrees Celsius in 10 seconds.
>>545878539Musk also made his brand toxic in Europe, and with large swaths of the American public. Not to mention he's about to get duly rekt by the incoming Democratic congress and legislatures across the country. As he richly deserves.
Musk cars are overpriced for rich assholes - let the chink cars in so everyone can have one FFS.
>>545878759>In 2025, BYD became the world's largest electric carmaker, overtaking Tesla and overtook Ford to be 6th in total automobile sales.imagine if it wasn't
BYD will never even try to crash test their cars in the US, let alone form a dealer network where people can take their temu car in for repairs, both legal requirements to sell cars in the USA.If these cars are so great why don't they start by crash testing a few? But they haven't even tried.
>>545881733For the most BS possible reasons though like this dumb accident he did in the photo and supporting the now #1 party in Germany. Just buy the damn cars.
>>545878539I'm really genuinely buying a BYD Atto 8 when they come to Europe. It is far superior to anything else out there at that price point.Fuck America.Fuck Germany.Embrace China.
>>545880016Yea, Germans and Americans only play fair. Never ever do they cheat or lie or steal.>VW emissions scandal>EU regulations>regulatory capture>America - money printing, CIA, jews
>>545878539more proof that the musk hate is a chinese psyop
>>545880016So the reason we can’t have cheap, well built stuff is because the rich christians in the American government?
>>545884265Are you out here trying to name kulaks again Achmed
>>545884324I am a white male satanist and idk what you mean
BYD is great, they are so cheap that when a the battery catches on fire and the doors lock and burns the family of four inside alive, it's far cheaper than a normal cremation. Same when they crash.
>>545884434BYD SUCKS ASS, I can't believe BYD now is overtaking Japan in sales in Europe, Australia, Southeast Asia, etc
>>545884607Their new Great Tang SUV is a fucking banger hit bro. BMW luxury, Porsche performance, Hyundai price.
Nobody wants an ev
>>545878539Thank you chatGPT. This is what jews deserve for selling out their host country and inventions.
>>545878539he's a futurist and visionary and he can see what's around the corner..
>>545884876>BMW luxuryBMW isnt a luxury brand lmao
>>545886539Sure, what color is your Bugatti?
>>545878539cute friendly girls and self driving taxis.china is living in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qFgyIRH8GE
I worked at a midsized tech consulting firm who was hired by HP to help them with a project in China, we were being hired to help design a fully integrated and connected smart city in Qingdao China. My first question to the other engineers was...Why cant they design it themselves? It was explained to me that since people in China are taught to be compliant from the day they are born the have very little ability to design something new.Went to China few times during the project only to realize everything is fake. full buildings in the middle of the city that look amazing from the outside, would have no plumbing, HVAC, working controls, etc. elevators didnt work, slums everywhere. Stuff they dont show you, everything you thought about cheap Chinese shit is true. However shitty you think it is 10X it. BYD is shit and will always be shit.
>>545878539lol this is the dumbest shit I have ever read lolThe market prices equities dumb dumb
>>545879926I have driven both Tesla is basicly Star Trek in a carByd is like laminate flooring it looks okay from far away and when you get close you see it’s cheap plastic trying to fool you
>>545884223>money printing, CIA, jewsI kneel. God bless NYC!
>>545878759>>545878539trump would let byd in america if they built in america.
>>545878539BYD sucks dude
