I've heard people online say that lots of corporate jobs are fake and don't produce anything of real value. However, this doesn't make sense, since corporations always want to maximize profits, and for this reason, they'll always try to hire fewer and more capable people and do things more efficiently. It makes no sense why corporations would do this.And even my own experience validates this claim.The cope needs to stop.
>>545903974Corporate types tend to believe they are modern day hunters and warriors in suits. In reality, they're peasants who went from milking goats to milking money, and they're still poor as they work their lives away like everyone else, not to mention in cities that are no longer Western but "multicultural" cesspits.
>>545903974Publicly traded firms run on gambling. You could sell literal human shit as a company that nobody wants to buy but as long as the market is bullish on you (((for some reason))) you will be a huge success. The same thing killed the French economy leading up to the revolution because you have killed any and all innovation for the sake of literally just gambling, and if you know people with enough capital you can game it easily for the rest of your life by playing chumps who don’t own as much as your syndicate does.
>>545903974>scams granny our of her retirement savngs>i'm a modern day warriorwhatever helps you sleep at night, fucking shitskin
>>545903974"They are motivated to perform well, therefore they must"
>>545903974If this were true dei and hr cunts wouldn't exist
But can antifa do manual labourCan someone post the "my job in the commune will be reading to the children" reddit bullshit stories
>>545903974When you become rich, you end up wanting to help out friends + family. So you just hire them to do essentially nothing and get paid. Extremely common both presently and historically.This only becomes problematic when the hired people akshually think they are important/have some strange idea of 'pride in my work' and start fucking shit up with their retardation. But that happens pretty commonly too. This is akshually a subject in a lot of biz 'books' or what have you, when you meet people to discuss and so on.
>>545904118Just call it what it is: jewish daycare
>>545903974Construction companies pay low income people to do nothing because they are only able to bid on government contracts if they employ niggers in certain low income regions. No, I'm not joking.
>>545903974This is like a drug addicted blackjack dealer calling you a weak bitch for not wanting to lose your ass at his table. These faggots have a vested interest in harvesting your worth as income.
>>545903974Is that why the only gaming company that is doing well is not publicly traded, not subject to gamblers?
Generation vs extractionThere are two major modes of operation.You can nomadically move from one resource node to another until exhaustion or you can remain in a location and generate resources.The overwhelming majority of jobs do not generate, they simply extract via a complex chain of ever shifting nodes interconnected via potential. There is enough slack within the connections that allows for excised wealth extraction.A system built upon extraction is just a complex pyramid scheme, it is ultimately based upon the generation of people at the resource nodes (raw generation, human time spent). The goal is to move (nomadically) to avoid snapback in the connections between resources (getting left with the bag), at which point the immaterial "potential" between resource nodes and the slack herein equates to 0. All potential within the connection between resource - production and consumption therefore effectively equates to 0, it is only the "potential" that is given value with a debased (separated from) currency that allows transaction of potential slack from person to person.Come on guys, i figured this out by 12 years old it isn't complex.
>>545903974corporations do aim for that, but all organisations are ultimately a bunch of people in a trench coat. There will be oversights.Also it is difficult to judge the value of these more abstract things. Does the HR department really generate 1mn in values? Who knows. The same question deeply frustrates commmand economies, who end up not putting money into the right technologies
>>545903974Jewish bullshit believed by someone in Bangladesh.
>>545903974Salaries are tax deductible dude... If the corporation is already generating a huge revenue then they are basically getting all those staff for free. If they didn't employ those staff then they would pay a lot more tax. The tax system forces corporations to hire as many people as they can.
>>545903974Corpo jobs are fake, that's why Europe fell behind while US grew thanks to the tech sector. CEOs in the states are engineers, often the ones who founded the company while EU has pencil pushers
>>545904118ok. i’m a total piece of shit. i work 8-14hrs a day. i’m on call at night and on the weekend. i respond to slack any time. i’m on meetings all day. i tell people what to do and give them feedback when they fail. and i have $10M in stocks and 2 homes
>>545904463Probably have a weeb fanbase
>>545903974Your touching onto a subject you don't really understand.It's called the selectorate theory.The answer to your question has existed for 27 years.I'm a woke left socialist if you actually have real questions about capitalism.But the answer to this one is selectorate theory
>>545904610>and i have $10M in stocks and 2 homesGreat. You still breathe the same air as the niggers around you.
>>545904610Nice. Not paying rent is close to heaven.
>>5459039741pbtidOh it was a Jew spam thread.They weren't really asking....>>545904656
>>545903974>they'll always try to hire fewer and more capable people and do things more efficientlyLol, lmao. How retarded can you be?
It’s mostly a Jewish daycare that makes sure nobody actually gets in it. Think of it as a yacht club that KNOWS it’s worthless but doesn’t want the secret to get out. That secret is also crumbling.Middle management is the same way. They know their position should be worth minimum wage or less, but they gatekeep it away from smart people, namely nerdy men, knowing that they’d devalue the bullshit job it if more people got in.
Leadership(ceo) in any form is about bribing your subordinates(corporate workers) to keep power.Your subordinates will coordinate your rules and power to the people (workers) as long as you keep them at a elevated level above the worker.The worker is what will happen to the subordinate if he ever stops maintaining your power. But if you rules with fear he will likely revolt (quit or replace the ceo).So you give them small rewards above your workers so they have something to "lose" for crossing you.People are so mistaken about oligarchs and dictators.The power is derived from the consent of those who are owned, the dictator actually holds very little power unless the subordinates give it to him.This is common knowledge is both business and politics.
>>545903974"Don't produce anything of real value TO SOCIETY".For example - stock markets (humanities greatest mistake) produce nothing, it's just speculation on fictional worth. Nothing tangible is created.
>>545903974Those are blue collar wagecucks pissed that someone makes 3x their income sitting behind a desk.
>>545904969>>Wait you mean all power is derived from the collective and the only way for oligarchs to exist is for class traitors to be bribed?YesWorkers outnumber owners a million to one.
>>545905033>>545905022Your so fucking close it's unreal.>>545904656
>>545904969Which is also why middle management is almost always full of more vile people than the CEOs.
>>545903974>corporations always want to maximize profitsCorporations are not conscious. >Managers want more money and more power>Managers get more money and power by hiring more managers underneath them>their subordinate Managers also want more money and power>thus hiring yet more managersThis is how you end up with pajeet money incinerators like microsoft.
>>545903974>dominate through cunning and ruthlessnessSomeone watches too much TV. Success is decided by your network, not your capabilities, unless you're a complete moron.
>>545905151Hardly even that. It’s mostly based on if you’re sex material.
>>545903974>corporate job>hierarchy where you dominatenever worked a day in their life to not know who ever is on top of you is a professional retard that gives you orders
>>545905104Yes.You could genuinely have a altruistic cep and his rule still be cruel and ineffective because of the people who seeded power to him.This is getting muddier and muddier because of the way they internally promote the suits into board and cep positions.The rewards are getting bigger cause the ceos power (wealth) is consolidating.This ends with slavery. This ends with me hiring 5 white "inmates" who are in jail on some weird abstract new law that doesn't makes debtors jail real, but not on paper.Why a native ar 30 when a Mexican is 20.Why a Mexican at 20 when a Indian is 10....i can rent white prisoners for dollar you say?The prizes and punishments will get bigger and more wildly abstract at the system tries to prevent its own death.You have contractor mimicing a version of this power play to service the MC mansions you see. But eventually all those false leaders will be bought and absorbed into a bigger one (the "I'm only growing my business to sell it" people).This is such a deep subject I don't even know where to begin.ReligionHuman natureBasically the founding and all of my countries existence.Op was a kike who asked a question that's complex and deep without a quick answer in a space where people's attention spans don't exist.
>>545904610if that's true (which it isn't), what the hell are you doing? Quit working immediately and do things which are actually enjoyable. Never work another day in your life
>>545905104>>545905308I own the contracting company.The man I hire to do this work and run crews has to be more cruel than I am to him, or often is..less I replace him
>>545903974Maximizing profit is a cut costing strategy. To identify which costs are unwarranted is hard. Sometimes, some cost produce nothing but when you remove them, they make you lose even more money. And most of the time, most people in the organization don't care about the costs because they don't benefit from reducing them. Big corporation are barely more efficient than the government. Sometime they are even worse.
>>545903974Idk man, what about DEI? What about top heavy zombie corporations dependent on the easy credit never ending? What about state granted monopolies? The CEO’s wages I think ironically is one of the realest things about clown world, for when you live in a world where more and more the survival of a company and profits to its shareholders depends on a person who can successfully steer the ship through the morass of the state, do mass lay offs, and be a lying public face it makes sense that they would be paid their worth. Actually I think the LTV would literally say that CEOs should get the most pay/are the most oppressed lol hear me out and bear with me because I am just using the LTV not real economics So let’s say you have a factory owner who employs workers for 8 hours and only pays them for 4 and pockets the other 4 as profit. This is an oppression quotient of 100%. The factory owner is nicer than most but he is facing competition from the market, in order to stay in business he has to increase worker hours/decrease worker wages, he says that the workday will increase from 8 hours to 12 for the same take home at the end of the day, or he can get a machine that will make the workers twice as productive and they will only have to work 5 hours a day for the same take home as if they worked 8 hours. The answer seems obvious right? But wait, if the machine makes them twice as productive then the workers are now twice as oppressed, and a 5 hour workday with the machine is an oppression quotient of 225% while the oppression of the 12 hour workday is just 200%. The labor theory of value suggests that the workers should pick the 12 hour workday, absurd right, essentially it could be construed that a slave who works 24 hours a day in a death camp is less oppressed if he fails to meet a certain production relative to a worker who works 5 minutes a day pressing 1 button 1 time (it’s a soft button).
>>545905369Nevermind. I don't know anything.It's probably dei.
>>545905344Why?
>>545903974>account based in South Asia
>>545905492Have you ever heard the saying"Shit rolls down hill?".I'll try to explain it.The ceo has little problems in life. A golden parachute, less worries, I can lose my position but I'm much safer in it. So I can use a more gentle hand and absorb more mistakes from my subordinates now you get the guy I hired He has more problems in life, maybe a mortage, additional stressors will make him more likely to apply cruel actions he otherwise wouldn't do so he doesn't lose his position.You get the worker and he is under so much stress and threat that he has no time to even question the power structure.If he stops he will lose healthcare or starve.So it comes down to pressure. The more pressure you have on you the more pressure you are willing to apply to make sure things get done.
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>>545903974lmaovice president of "digital transformation" wants 200 people to do the job; 3 people can do it. If he hires 3 autists, they cut his budget next year. fuck is company money, not his.200ppl justifies a big, fat motherfuckingly fat salary, and when he slams that 200 subordinate PP in the face of that 15 subordinate reject, he feels it in the soul.You know nothing of companies; there is nothing gayer than it
>>545905653And pressure is all about what you can lose. Not what you can gain.It's a fear mechanism.
>>545903974Corporations have access to massive amounts of investment and financing from banks who can print money for free. They also mostly sell their services to other businesses or the government who also have access to this money. Why would you care whether your employees produce anything or not when you can just print more money to pay them anyway?
>>545905653That’s not usually what happens. Workers just quit with employment gaps or find a new job and hope it’s better.
>>545906407Seems like hell to me. I’m a city kid and studying in the countryside made me realize how grim city life is. >>545903974>qouteAll politicians live in the countryside and only come to the city to do business
>>545905925Is it ever better or do you just switch masters?Maybe even one day you might be a subordinate position and then you too can have a department of workers!The hope you have is one of the things they abuse to keep you in your position..your hopeful to become a master rather than overthrow them.You lack your Faustian spirit and humanity. It was taken from you. I'm sorry
You miss the big picture. They promote woke culture to keep the society fighting each other. As people are hyperfocussed on not allowing trannies to groom their children, corporation do whatever they want.Also most companies today are zobie companies who exist only because new inslvestments in them and new loans. They have to hire all those useless faggots and niggers to keep getting all that from the bankers with infinite money glitch. Just look at any top company in the usa. Most of them don't make any profit, or haven't made any profit in decades prior. Companies themves are on welfare and they hire uselss feminists, because that's the requirement.Not even talking about companies who win public tenders as diversity is the main requirement to get government contracts.
>>545905925>>545906695So now we go into a study called the long shadow study.I don't feel like explaining so I asked Sam Altman to.You don't have real social mobility, you are a worker and most likely always will be.I'm not saying this to be mean, but this is what we all call peasant brain basically. Not understanding the system of which you work in.Hey man im a worker too. I just quit completely and am self reliant on most things. I still have to take contract work for about a month a year to pay property tax (tributes to my lord).
>>545906791I forgot the attachment.Maybe I belong to the peasants too :(.
>hire ... more capable workersWrong. This costs more money than hiring a shitjeet therefore the profit focused corp won't do it.
>>545903974These posts might have made sense six years ago. Now, in the age of AI, there's no purpose in LARPing as some kind of Patrick Bateman. Claude has made that job obsolete
I could easily kick the shit out of some corporate queer. They all think they're that faggot from American Psycho.
it doesn't work that way you retarded miggera dozen jews get on top and turn you all into permanent wageslaves with no upward mobility
>>545903974I can produce high profits selling pictures of my hole, would you call that “something of value”?
>>545903974It's not about maximizing profits once you hit a certain size. It's about maximizing your valuation. Two every different things that are only passingly related.
>>545903974>the corporate world is hierarchical!No, it's rife with nepotism, brown-nosing faggots and pointless retarded women.Fuck off jew.
>>545903974i cant read tweets anymore without sounding them in my head in a down syndrome voicebut then i find out its an indian guy cock-worshipping white-collar success fantasies
>>545907726This nigger over here understands capitalism.
>>545903974>corporations always want to maximize profitsExpense accounts suggest otherwise
>>545903974Are we pretending that the corporate world is a meritocracy?
>However, this doesn't make sense, since corporations always want to maximize profitsThe flaw in your reasoning is the assumption that you can only maximize profits by producing things of value, which is just patently ridiculous.Also, they don't seek to maximize profits. They seek to maximize shareholder value. Which is ALSO not the same thing as producing things of value.
>>545907726I like to remind people that capitalists if allowed would rather inslave and import foreigners instead of paying people a living wage. The stupid Confederacy even had a retarded war over it.
>>545908166>>Falls for the scam and attacks his replacement.>>545904656Oh well kill him. I'll keep replacing you and replacing any kids you have. Your gonna save me a shitload of headaches and money by cycling them out for me for even cheaper labor.
>>545908297Saipan.Saipan was capitalism unbridled. They imported Chinese workers and burned their passports, they chained them to the machines they worked on and it all happened in less than 30 years."Unregulated capitalism".It's been tried again and again and it's slavery Everytime. Every piece of clothes they made in Saipan was stamped "made in the usa".Neat scam.
>>545908297>The stupid Confederacy even had a retarded war over it.The Confederacy wasn't actually in favor of importing slaves since they viewed increasing the slave portion of the population too much as dangerous to the white power structure. They were deeply afraid of ending up like Haiti. They were for internal slave trade.That said, the Confederacy wasn't actually capitalistic, and there was, in fact, a capitalist movement to reopen the slave trade at the time due to the rising cost of slaves. However, doing that would lower the value of the slaves already in the Confederacy and the people wealthy enough to own large stocks of slaves, ie the people in power, would be incentivized not to do that from a capitalistic perspective.
