>Bournemouth hotel, 1999. She met him at the conference cabaret and invited him to continue their conversation in her hotel room after he showed interest in her political ideas. SWhat the fuck? As if she invited him to her hotel room to talk politics>Before the alleged rape, she had a consensual relationship with him. She engaged in a consensual threesome with Brand and another woman backstage, and then gave the comedian her number. A few days later she arranged to go to his Hampstead home, knowing they would have sex. Her allegation is that a consensual sexual encounter took place which then became anal rape>went to the police roughly 14 to 16 years after the alleged rapeWhat the fuuuuckSo literally any mans ex can change her mind decades later and put a guy in jail?What defence is there for this?
I was right all along.
>>545904708about what
>>545904685TOTALSEX HAVERDEATH
You haven't mentioned the Jimmy Savile interview where they both talk about pinnochio and the implications of the CIA having a pinnochhio emblem
You won't do shit
>>545904778I will date a Jewish women, they must be better than this.
>>545904708and brand wasnt, he was a lefty during that time
>>545904685>So literally any mans ex can change her mind decades later and put a guy in jail?
>>545904685OMG MY HECKING ECELEBS ARE BEING ACCUSED OF PENILE IMPROPRIETY!!I MUST TELL /POL/ IMMEDIATELY
>>545904685NOBODY FUCKING CARES DUDE STFU
>>545904876>>545904914samefag, this board has ids you know?
>>545905090He's right this doesn't belong here.It's normie-vision
>>545904685sometimes trauma takes a long time to heal only now she was brave enough to realize that she had been raped
>>545905125bullshit, you just disagree with how anons are discussing it
>>545905137This. Her bank statement probably reminded her she had been raped as well
>>545905161It doesn't belong here. We have higher order of topics we discuss on /pol/
>>545905137This isn't how desperate womens' brains work, anon. You wouldn't know, as you're clearly a a virgin
So what evidence could they possibly use to convict him the fuck?
Polythene Pam
>>545905293we've already discussed your fetish for sweaty, burrly and muscly men in the other 99 threads, anongive it a rest
>>545904685Basically south park episode with magic m word
>>545905293What're you talking about, this is a core political incorrectness topic. You do know /pol/ is about political incorrectness, and not politics, right? No, I guess you don't.
>>545905339Just testimony.
>>545904741this, fuck sex havers (but not literally)
>>545904773Okay then explain it
>>545904778good. have u seen how swarthy he is? perma tanned skin, dark brown eyes, dark hair... he's a half skinskin, i.e. of Levantine origin, i.e. at least jew-like if not a full on pure blood-line jew. Glad the jews have incarcerated one of their own. Hopefully he'll get nigger dick for a few years for the crime of being an original levantine jew. Hopefully khs.
>>545904741legalization of prostitution is the only way we can somewhat rebalance all this shitits always been that waythe wenches down at the docks and in the taverns, yarrr
>>545905848its legal here, you're fucked if you think it makes any difference
>>545905090newfag. he just replied to the OP twice. lurk more, normgroid
This dude always gave the creeps.Is the classic >look everyone im 40 but everyone thinks im 20 because of the way I act and lookThe next one is going to be Chris Delia.This type of man are predators who use the "look how retarded and weak I'm i would never do nothing to you" strategy.Parasitic predators.
women are on a particularly embarrassing streak at the moment
>>545906279bald
>>545904685fuck himjust another BBC sex criminal.
RUSSELLS IN A VANhordes of rayped wymmins will be chasing after the caged beast, like OJ, on his way to Southwark Crown Court. Where the Raypists Russell shall be receiving Many Years. And wymmins Much Compensation, they hope.>>545904685The Labour Party Conference one he got away with. The, otherwise correctly described, threesome etc, anal rape he did get charged with, was actually a 21 year old fan he met at one of his gigs at Hammersmith Apollo, London.
I'll put it this way:>you argree with your body on a friendly fight. Soft gloves>before the match starts, your body kicks you straight in your nose, breaks it.>you are bleeding. You say you are out>your friends keep punching you non stop>after he is done, he tell you to clean up your messYou think such behaviour is normal? If you tear someone's asshole with yout iny dick without their permission to be there in the first place, and keep tearing it apart when they ask you to stop, it's kind of a rape. They guy is just a degenerate grifter. Fuck him!
LIVE: Russell Brand to be sentenced for rape and sexual assault https://youtu.be/JpJaJDvGVu0
>>545904685Women are actually retarded. This bitch who complained about the "anal rape" was also cheating on her boyfriend with him, so it struck me hard because my ex did exactly the same, and said exactly the same thing about the guy she cheated on me with. Apparently, after having already fucked him a few times, she consented to performing oral on him and didn't realise he was going to throat fuck her. Yet she didn't try to stop him, didn't say no, didn't pull away, she told herself to "try to get it over with", he finishes down her throat, they talk after, she wants to make it official, he rejects her, she never goes back. Fast forward 8 years when she finally reveals what a disloyal whore she'd been to me, she labelled the whole thing as "rape" because he "implied" if they didn't keep having sex, he'd tell me what she was doing (he never would've, he was a scrawny manlet, she clearly lied about why she kept going back), and it was only the throat fucking that really made her draw the line.Never made any sense to me, either. The bitch was fine starting cheating on me, fine getting badly fucked by him (apparently he only ever rushed to getting himself to cum, and always ignored her after), but suddenly he fucks her face and she realises she's been a massive slut and never goes back? Yeah, immature, irrational, retarded whore, who now labels the whole thing as rape because she can't accept that she not only allowed but WANTED him to do what he did. It's been 2 years since we split, and she's STILL acting like we're going to get back together some time, my traitorous sister stayed friends with her and acts like her ambassador from time to time.
>>545905874>prostitution is legal in strayawait what
>>545908441>cheating on her boyfriend with him,They ALWAYS happen to have boyfriends lmfao
>>545906873ah yes, and when they had that (completely) consensual threesome the day before, she wasnt being DP'd or anything, right?you seem to know how it went down, did you read the court transcripts?
>>545908493Yeah, and then after CHOOSING to cheat, they always act like getting treated like the whore they are is beneath them. They make the conscious decisions to go be alone with someone, to take their clothes off, to get on their knees, to spread their legs, and then pretend like it was all "happening so fast" that they didn't have time to think it through. Women are all sluts living on whims and refuse to take responsibility for anything.
>>545904685>So literally any mans ex can change her mind decades later and put a guy in jail?If the political establishment wants to punish you for wrongthink? Yes.
>>545908534Dude confessed it all happened, just claims it was consensual. But, for some reasons, had to apologise through txt messages.
>>545904685You can pretend to be liberal and if anybody asks just start talking about how great Obama is. They might not believe you but if you just keep saying the words they'll move on to somebody else.
>>545909158The text messages werent shown in court. her "account" of the text message was read.Very odd since theres no way the exact text wasn't retrievable by investigatorsand even in her account, she told him he treated her like an animal and he says "im sorry"Does not at all imply rape. He could have simply been an animal in bed and she now seemed to be upset so the natural thing to do would be apologize to placate her. You'd be an asshole not to.
no one cares, dystopiaCOWgo back to shitter
>>545904685>What defence is there for this?not being rich/famous
>>545909158>had to apologise through txt messages>>545909442>The text messages werent shown in courtall a matter of (subjective) interpretation, while the task of courts is to arbitrate objective facts, and mistakes can happenyou seem biasedi dont care about this story at allbut seeing as you could be affected, i wont spare broadcasting my doubts
>>545904685>Meet a famous guy>Immediately start putting your tongue up his bungholeWomen are disgusting
>>545904685>What defence is there for this?None. You unfortunately live in hell. Best you can do is only have sex in a serious relationship with someone you have vetted to the best of your ability.
>>545904685don't do gay butt sex. simple as
>>545904685What part did she consent to at the time and then change her mind about OP? The article is clear, she consented to some sexual activity but not to the anal sex.
>>545909442In his testimony he agrees that it was her first anal sex - but then states she at no point said no or even expressed any discomfort, which is insane and only satisfying the incels here who have no sexual experience
>>545910489This shit was 20 years ago - she willingly had a threesome the day before and shoved her tongue up his arse etc 5 mins after meeting him. She also willingly met for sex again. There is a level of implied consent here, in that she had already indicated she was up for more or less anything.
>>545905339women never lie
>>545910551Thing is that he could be right. Women have this thing called "in the moment" where they behave differently to how they believe they would've before and even after having done so. It's extremely likely that "in the moment" she was putting up with his tiny cock in her ass and telling herself to just get through it to continue sex. Silently tolerating something she probably didn't particularly want to do but was accepting of in the moment is common practice for women.Problem is that he then treated her like the slut she was but disrespecting her after the anal. That retroactively changed her putting up with uncomfortable but bearable and tolerable anal sex, to adding shame, guilt, shock, and all the rest, so that in hindsight she now views it as completely unwanted. After all, if she REALLY didn't want anal, she could've stopped it, easily. At no point does she even claim she tried to fight him off or resist.
>>545910618That’s vastly different from your claim that she retroactively withdrew consent - which is a falsehood. In addition,1. An offence having taken place a period of time ago does not stop it being an offence2. Consenting to one sexual activity does not automatically mean that one has consented to all other sexual activity - consent should be explicit not ‘implied’Quit defending rapists and quit victim blaming anon. Be better
>>545910696>Problem is that he then treated her like the slut she was but disrespecting her after the anal.Yeah that:>Clean up the mess you madewas maybe his biggest crime, and mistake, here. No need for that shit desu.
>>545910696There is no legal duty to physically fight off an attacker anon and the lack of it (which can take place as part of a fear response) is not evidence that the incident wasn’t an assault. No is a complete sentence that should be respected.
>>545908441there's something bigger that was on her mind so played an "I was raped" card. Accepting her story of brutal rape would have opened the door to something bigger she wanted to confess
>>545904685She invited him to her room after midnight. That only means that she wanted it.
>>545910776He made the mistake of thinking because women are sluts, they're all honest to themselves about it. She was literally cheating on her boyfriend. She participated in a threesome the first chance she got with him. She went to his house despite not knowing him personally. She allowed anal to happen. She acted like a complete whore, and he misread that as "this girl knows what her true nature is, I can treat her like that fully", because he had very likely met hundreds of slags like that in his time. But he underestimated her self-delusion of being a good, moral, respectable person. I can almost guarantee if he hadn't told her to clean herself up, and had done some actual aftercare, she wouldn't have been so upset by it in hindsight, probably would've even gone back a few more times.So that's the real takeaway from it all: if you want to treat women like the whores they are, make sure to comfort them afterwards to sort of "cauterise" what you'd just done to them.>>545910822I didn't say anything about a legal duty, I said behaviour. If she's not stopping something, not resisting, not preventing, then it's likely she's not actually saying she doesn't want it, just tolerating it.
>>545910933In her account she said ‘no’ - how much resistance should she offer to satisfy your threshold that the activity wasn’t welcome? Your victim blaming is classless anon.
>>545911029>how much resistance should she offer to satisfy your threshold that the activity wasn’t welcome?Greater than zero.
>>545911090The lack of agreed consent is greater than zero. The presence of a no is greater than zero.
>>545904822he wasn't just a lefty he was feted by owen jones and the like as someone who would get the young voters to vote labour, also he is entirely a creation of legacy media here, the BBC primarily are responsible for his fame but all the media lined up to suck him off, they made the monster and of course he is a fucking creep who exploited his wealth and fame to have sex with women who were throwing themselves at his because of his wealth and fame, he is a creepy cunt but I don't believe he's a rapist but I expect because he somewhat turned on his masters they strung him up but there's more vile people at the BBC who they will ignore, for now>steven frypederast>david jasonpedo
>>545904708have sex incel
>>545906539>umm, did you just rape me?
>>545911125No, that's not resistance, that's just words. There was ZERO resistance.
>>545911192Ivor Caplin hasn't even had a trial yet
>>545908607you now remember why commander rockwells wife left him and why his organization was full of faggots like pierce and collins
>>545909902>only have sex in a serious relationship with someone you have vetted to the best of your ability...and never do bdsm on her no matter how many times she asks you> no im not going to tell the cops you raped mesays every woman who asks you to do bdsm
>>545911485I imagine that will be swept under the carpet as you know, he has "friends" and he was literally trying to fuck kids
>>545910696>shame, guilt, shockshe deserves this and worse
>>545911441There is no legal duty to physically resist - freeze response where one cannot physically fight back it a well recognise thing in traumatic situations alongside the fear by many victims that if they do physically resist the attacker may seriously harm them.It is the duty of rapists to not rape anon - the victim is not at fault here
>>545911623im glad God made hell for feminists. i didnt think satan or judas deserved hell but feminists obviously deserve worse than hell
>>545911616Oh, they all deserve it. They get told from a young age that's it's bad to cheat, bad to act like a whore. They know the consequences, they know what people will think of them. And yet, they still do it. I don't know whether it's just pure retardation, or a complete inability for them to simulate another perspective, but they ALL end up acting like sluts, and the ones that end up with the guilt, shame, and regret are just the ones who didn't get the enjoyment they imagined from being complete sluts. But you can sure as hell bet they'll do it again a few years later.>>545911623>There is no legal dutySee >>545910933
>>545911192>he was feted by owen jones and the like as someone who would get the young voters to vote labouri stopped reading the new statesman after they got brand in to be guest editor, which i believe they did a couple of times actuallynever liked the cunt, but he has been railroaded and this should have been a mistrial as all the evidence is their words against his, it's bullshit that he faces any jail time over it and i say this as someone who wouldnt piss on the guy if he was on fire
>>545911703What if the rapist has a knife to her throat and the woman doesn’t fight back because she’s scared she will die? Does that make it not a rape in your system?Also I’ve never heard some defend rapists and hate women so much who isn’t brown - pls post a picture of your hand
>>545904685Anally raped victim just said 'i no longer trust my instincts'Oh, the ironing.
>>545911833>What if the rapist has a knife to her throatDid he?
>>545911708right, if it was any other accusation i would be making fun of brand for being a stupid celebrity faggot but regret rape is the gayest thing ever
>>545911833stick to this case
>>545911708I agree, don't like the cunt and whole christian larp was obviously a ploy to try and make himself look like a good guy, he knew this was coming as they took an injunction against another accuser some years ago when he was with jemima goldsmith/rothschilde, he's a creepy cunt and a bit of a molester but his victims were willing for a chance to be with the rich famous man, there should be some sort of statute of limitation for adults on this shit
>>545911833the Bible says if she doesnt scream she consented
>>545911708I'm the same. Can't stand the prick but this is bullshit.
>>545911923>there should be some sort of statute of limitationhow about if a woman is married to a man then she cant accuse him of rape
>>545911892It’s already clear you don’t consider this situation a rape. So please explain the system you use in your head to determine if a situation is a consent violation or not?What if a woman does fight back but is wearing a very revealing outfit? Does that shift the blame for the rape to her? Also post hand mohammed
>>545912014So did he use a knife or not?
>>545910822She didn't say no, she said "its my first time"which she said BEFORE he put it in. there is implied consent there.
>>545912014you see incapable of arguing the merits of this case without grafting hypothetical aggravating circumstances onto it
>>545912176Nice relevant id.
>>545904685We really need to stop using the word "trauma".
>>545912142>>545911905Please explain how the freeze response and/or fear for life factors into your consent framework. Also outline how much she should have fought back - How many of his ribs need to be fractured before it is deemed rape?Also post hand mohammend.>>545912156The testimony you accept that statement from includes her saying no
>>545911987marital rape is difficult isn't it, unfortunately believing all women isn't realistic
>>545912294>Please explain how the freeze response and/or fear for life factors into your consent framework.She didn't say she froze. She also had no reason to fear for her life.>Also outline how much she should have fought backAny amount of resistance at all.
