>nordics are... le bad!
>>545907984despite italians naming africa, europe, and latin america they always attack sven. its honestly kinds strange to see
>>545907984Nordchads are hated because they are the whitest kind of white people
>>545907984thought that was a young rich evans for a moment. didn't watch btw
>>545907984Can we have an actual nuanced /pol/ discussion about Jorjani before this thread gets shut down?I find him compelling but also like he's religiously devoted to this specific narrative he's constructed that requires assumption after assumption. I can't tell if he actually buys into it or if it's a Platonic noble lie and he actually knows it's mostly bullshit. Like there is some evidence for some of his claims, but there's just as much evidence for all types of other shit. >>545908139>>545908244He's talking about Nordic aliens (who he thinks are just advanced and/or time-traveling humans), he doesn't have a problem with regular Nordic people. And even though he's very anti-Nazi, he is still clearly a race realist.
>>545907984lol.
>>545907984Nords are all mentally ill retards with extreme herd mentality. They can be golden retrievers or mass murdering psychopaths who kill for pleasure, depending on what they are told is socially desired beliefs and behavior.
Every spirit/alien/demon/angel in this plane is just an archon larpingThey're all tricking humanity into generating loosh and being stuck in the dimension with them
>>545908424ThisNo one will save you not even Jesus!
>>545908424I think it makes more sense that humanity is the ones projecting them, whether individually or collectively, and the ones that have been persistent are basically established constructs that can be accessed from the noosphere or the Jungian collective unconsciousness or whatever. But functionally deities are constructed tools for you to work magic through
>>545908518I do agree that this realm is a demiurgical loosh farm but I don't know if that's an inherent permanent state or if it's just the collective habits that the universe has fallen into at this point, nor do I know if there are actual archons or an actual demiurge
>>545908319>He's talking about Nordic aliens (who he thinks are just advanced and/or time-traveling humans)He knows? Fuck I have to go kill him five years ago
>>545907984Listen up Chuds, I am here to warn you of the dangers of a fictional race of aliens that doesn't exist.
>>545908392We aren't talking about people from Sweden you retarded lebo
>>545907984
>>545907984they hate us cuz they ain't us
arent we all from Africa ? niggers whites asian brown all the same? no?
>>545908710technically we're all from the ocean
>>545908603Yes. I mean all North Western Europeans in general, especially Nords.
>>545908319>Can we have an actual nuanced /pol/ discussion about Jorjani before this thread gets shut down?I am still trying to finish Prometheus&Atlas, but so far, parapsichology-wise, I vastly prefer Dean Radin on terms of quality and exposition, and Vallée when it comes to UFOlogy.Overall, he's just not bad, not terrible.
>>545907984fun fact sweden hasnt been in a war for longer than switzerlandalso kill yourself for making a thread about an obvious slop video, youtube is full with slop now. if you dont have one get a channel blocker, click block channel and you can remove a lot of shit out of your feed very fast since the fucking jeet ceo or whatever just doesnt give a fuck about the quality on his platform being in free fall
>>545908844I've read parts of Closer Encounters, Thanosis, and Fundamental ThinkersWas not compelled to finish any of themI got the farthest in Thanosis, which is the type of stuff I'm more interested inFundamental Thinkers felt like an AI-written essay in the part I read He's very subjectively pick-and-choosy with the pieces of evidence that he decides to take serious vs. the ones he doesn'tAnd he'll take something that isn't verifiable at all (like Siddhartha Gautama being Lao Tzu, or the Moksha remote viewing session) and then incorporate that into his overall worldviewIt's unfortunate that he's one of the only people applying philosophical rigor to things like psy
>>545908244because they are the weakest of all white people, and in their weakness they lie with every single breath they take. They are more jew than the biggest hook nosed jew you could imagine in your head but you won't see it. Because "muh Aryan" bs, which is itself another lie they've been spouting since the 1930's. They say that shit because they lose at every competition there is with regular white people. Behind every pay 2 win game is a blonde haired blue eyed loser who couldn't compete so they had to have a way to win, the idea of wiping out merit based systems was given to us by blonde haired blue eyed thin skinned losers and as a result we have niggers. And low and behold blondes can't stop fucking African gorilla tier niggers, just coincides. I better stop noticing huh?
>>545907984Who's this child fucking paedo sodomite who deserves to be incinerated?
>>545908721Reddit is back that way, fuckface
>>545910078What do you believe, that the Earth is 6,000 years old and the Jewish God Yahweh just snapped us into existence, no evolution required? Lol
>>545908392ah yes, the very wise sand niggers. please enlighten us, plato-sama
>>545908645>Finlandlol, lmao
>>545907984>swarthy skin>brown eyes>brown hair>balding>weak chin>less than 180 cm talllol, cope harder subhumies
>>545907984Why is this dude trying to protect the Reptilians with this misdirection? Is he a Reptilians' servant?
>>545908392It feels good to know that the jews are going to bomb the shit out of your country and eventually your filthy leb bloodline will be ended, and a jewish family will live where your family once did. You lebs are unironically the worst people in the world after indians.
>>545910938He claims the reptilians were an engineered slave race created by the Nordics, which is why they hate humanity
Pleiadian master race reporting in.
>>545908319>>He's talking about Nordic aliens (who he thinks are just advanced and/or time-traveling humans)these "anony" are probably bots... It's really sad that even in shitposting we're not free from slops
>>545912291>THE CLANKERS ARE COMING! THE CLANKERS ARE COMING!
>>545908319>I can't tell if he actually buys into it or if it's a Platonic noble lie and he actually knows it's mostly bullshit.once you goy the goys enough you turn into goy>>545908424>>545908451>head bobbling intensifies
>>545912972>I guess the real goys were the goys we goyed along the goy
>>545908567We will expend fewer tachyons if we simply beam an extra chromosome into him when he is a zygote
I am also scared of Nordics desu
>>545913146>if you could be anything, why not be a goy?
>>545913593>After all, why not? Why shouldn't I be a goy?
>>545908139Because in history Italy is shit, Italians are chad. We have no nordic history except what monks translated, it’s easy to vaguepost attack.How do you badmouth a guy who literally is “if people gave him more shit we would had an apache by 1800”?
>>545908319>Can we have an actual nuanced /pol/ discussion about Jorjani before this thread gets shut down?No, /pol/ is no longer high IQ enough for this sort of thing. If you want to have an actual discussion about Jorjani's theories on 4chan, you'll find a lot more people familiar with his work on /x/ than /pol/...and this despite the fact that he was as instrumental in the founding of the alt-right as Richard Spencer. They used to be best bros...then Spencer fucked it all up.>>545908319>I find him compelling but also like he's religiously devoted to this specific narrative he's constructed that requires assumption after assumption. I can't tell if he actually buys into it or if it's a Platonic noble lieIt's best understood as both, but in my opinion more of the latter. Read his book Closer Encounters. He expounds upon all possible theories regarding aliens or different types of aliens. He spends a lot of time on Nordics. But he also mentions interdimensional trickster beings such as whatever is going on at Skin Walker Ranch. He talks about Grays which he believes are an engineered slave/servant race of Nordics. He even talks about Mantids and some other theories. But he primarily focuses on "Nordics" because he believes they are the same beings that started world religions millenia ago. They were the gods in Greek Mythology, The Bible, and the Hindu Scriptures among others. >>545909103>It's unfortunate that he's one of the only people applying philosophical rigor to things like psyAt his core Jorjani considers himself a philosopher and everything you hear from him must be filtered through that lens. His primary philosophical concept is that he believes humanity should revere the titan Prometheus who rebelled against the other gods to give us fire and teach us technology. He thinks this is especially relevant for the modern day, when technology is more powerful than ever before.
>>545914428He talks about the coming singularity, when our tech will be so advanced as to be basically be magic. He's been talking about this since the mid 2010s, but only recently has it started to make sense with AI. But between AI, gene editing, nanotechnology and other advancements, we're going to have technology advance faster than we can understand it. At the same time, this advancing tech will deliver proof of the paranormal or spectral realms. We will have proof of psychic abilities and phenomena because of this tech. AI's in the future won't just be really smart, they will be psychic. Jorjani sees these advancements in tech as so powerful that they could destroy humanity, and we must have a deep philosophical framework for using the technology lest that happen. I think he's a believer in nordic aliens, but that's besides the point. He argues that as humanity becomes more advanced, that the "gods" will return to enslave us again, lest we venture out towards the stars to rival them. He also sees many elites on earth as doing the bidding of these gods. Thus he is a proponent of advanced technologies like AI because he believes they are our only defense against aliens/NHI. His dystopian prediction is that if we do not become as powerful as the gods, they will capitalize on convergent catastrophes, as well as use their underlings on earth to start nuclear wars in order to revert human civilization by hundreds of years. He speaks of a future in which most cities are destroyed and the people that are left live in rural farming communities without much electricity or other tech (basically like the Amish) while the elites live in lavish secret underground bunkers with electricity and magic technology essentially. It is our duty to be like Prometheus and use technology to fight back against the gods and prevent this dystopian future from happening
>>545914252>it's goy or never!
>>545914447Basically his whole philosophical project is about how humanity is supposed to mentally and spiritually grapple with the raw power of our technological ability in the next couple of decades. He uses the paranormal and UFO angle to explain this, but that doesn't mean it's a rhetorical thought exercise. Certainly he probably exaggerates specific anecdotes for dramatic effect in order to get people to think differently about a certain subject. My personal opinion is he loses me when he says that all human history is engineered by time traveling Nordics, and that computer data itself has physical space, and that with advancements in data storage, in the future the earth will have an entire moon's worth of mass stored in hard drives on planet earth. Stuff like that is interesting to think about, but I don't know if he actually seriously believes that. He absolutely believes in "aliens" and believes in psychic abilities. The only question really to what extent
>>545914428/x/ just doesn't have enough traffic, I'm sorry to say. If I posted a thread on this topic it would get two comments and then die.>They were the gods in Greek Mythology, The Bible, and the Hindu Scriptures among others.The fact that he reads all that as literal stories of ancient history, and that is all that deities are, bothers me. Like he knows that polytheistic magicians work with deities and get results. And that all those archetypes persist even now even in a secular sense. He seems to have a disdain for the people who actually practice the type of shit he talks about, and he certainly doesn't practice it to the extent that he logically should based on what he says. Like there is no reason he should not personally be a master remote viewer right now, instead of relying on the words of others. He's been interested in that shit for decades. So anyways yeah, the pagan gods are real forces. They're not referring to some ancient historical figures. I've never seen him actually deal with that. I guess he implies that it's the trickster or the archons appearing to people as deities, but that doesn't make sense most of the time. He seems to credit this trickster with like 99% of spiritual phenomena. I guess that's another question, is if he actually believes in the trickster either. >and this despite the fact that he was as instrumental in the founding of the alt-right as Richard Spencer. They used to be best bros...then Spencer fucked it all up.It seemed like recently he was gonna try to bury the hatchet, but then he saw how retarded Mark Brahmin and Apolloism was and changed his mind lol
>>545914447>>545914543A lot of that I agree with, and I think his valuable sort of modern update on Nietzscheanism is undone by him focusing on so much shit that he doesn't actually know is true, instead of the stuff that we know is (like AI). That includes the natural disasters in 20 years or whatever.
>>545907984They were not hostile towards me
Is this thread talking about Nordic ayys or Nordic humans?
>>545914479>LEEEEEGOY JEEEENKIIINSS!!!!
>>545914979nordic humans are aliens to non nordics, anon. ayy lmaos dont real
>>545914979Nordic ayys. Obviously. https://youtu.be/h0DojpKZrw4
I don't trust Nordic ayys I don't trust any ayys, but I feel its easier to get manipulated by beautiful people than lizard men, which makes the Nordics more dangerous. At least with the Reptiles you have the common sense instinct to hide and try to fight back. With Nordics you might be stupid enough to just walk onto their ships of your own free will. Not that you'd probably have much free will in either situation but the principle remains.Best ayys are the ones that leave me alone.
>>545914813>Like there is no reason he should not personally be a master remote viewer right now, instead of relying on the words of others. He's been interested in that shit for decades.There actually is a reason and he's talked about it extensively. The reason is that psychic ability is inversely correlated with intelligence. People who are really smart, highly logical thinkers, are less likely to be psychic or are less able to make use of those gifts without extensive training. It's the same reason why Jorjani says that animals utilize psy abilities far more than humans do. And among humans it's the same thing. Mediums and psychics, the ones who are actually good and legit, are very rarely super high brow intellectual types. They might be able to commune with the spirits but they aren't going to be able to explain mathematical theorems to you. >>545914813>The fact that he reads all that as literal stories of ancient history, and that is all that deities are, bothers meWhy does that bother you? People thought that the city of Troy and the story of the Trojan War was just a myth for centuries until the actual city was discovered a little over a century ago. Also, how do you know what's going on in the spirit world? Just cause you're trying to invoke some ancient deity and then something happens does not necessarily mean you invoked that ancient deity. Another spirit in the ether could've heard your call and intervened and pretended to be said deity or acted on their behalf. Like, you could pray to Odin or whatever for destruction to fall upon your enemy but what if it's actually Pan who heard your call and decided to do something about it? Or perhaps QuetzalCoatl or even some random no-name animist spirit? For what it's worth I think Jorjani has addressed this and he thinks it's a both-and kind of situation. I also think a big part of why he thinks many ancient deities were real people is because same stories present across multiple cultures
>>545914979Nordic ayys. However it is a murky subject. Jorjani claims that Nordic "aliens" really are just Nordic human beings, they are just a breakaway group that developed advanced technology like anti-gravity and time travel at some point in the past (or the future). He also posits that within this breakaway groups, there are "rebel Nordics" who themselves have decided to break away from the breakaway civilization, and have integrated themselves into modern Western Civilization, mostly in Colorado and other parts of North America. He posits that the Nordic Breakaway Culture is highly rigid and does not allow for the kind of individualized freedom of expression that we have in America and the west in general. Thus, there are Nordics who have sought to escape and drop out of that society even though they have much more advanced technology. technology thanBasically, he doesn't think that regular Swedes/Nords are part of this group, but rather that some group of Germans, likely around WWII, developed this tech, sequestered it, and then once perfected they used it to go back in time and fuck up the timeline. He also thinks time travel explains the Mandela effect
>>545907984imagine not being a human
>>545907984I don't understand why anyone would trust the CIAs documents on remote viewing and parapsychology. Their stated mission is to ensure nothing anyone thinks is real. He tends to draw on physics like interpretation of quantum mechanics, but there are some holes like when he talks about the "mass" of information in datacenters. It's not like we don't know how a memory cell works.His nuclear war on Mars idea is interesting mostly because there is evidence of something nuclear happening.
>>545910938>>545911196>He claims the reptilians were an engineered slave race created by the Nordics, which is why they hate humanityJorjani doesn't speak much about reptilians but this is his thesis. Basically, nordics, whether breakaway humans from modern timeframe earth OR whether from somewhere else, were living on Mars hundreds of millions of years ago. They had a war with another group and Mars got nuked to shit and they needed to find another place to live besides underground bunkers on Mars. They decided to migrate to Earth, but the climate of earth was too violent for human settlement. So they built the moon and manouvered it into place to stabilize the tides and make the climate on earth more chill. There were already some animals on earth, like dinosaurs. So they tried to create a strong slave race with some of their DNA and some of the dinosaur DNA, leading to the Reptilian humanoids. But these didn't work out, so they tried to get rid of Reptilians and then engineered more human-like slave rices like homo sapiens and neanderthals etc and found that we were better at being slaves to they kept making more of us. Reptilians were then banished to caves and underground parts of earth, forgotten by their creators. This made reptilians very angry at humans because, despite both of us being slave races, we had the favor of the gods and they did not
>>545908323I wonder why someone who looks like this would hate blue-eyed blonde-haired people?
>>545908710we aren't even same species with niggers and asia is more likely home for big apes
>>545915404My point is that it's completely ignoring what paganism is, or how those myths and deities function within those magical systems. He's basically treating them like they're the Old Testament within Judaism and Christianity. It's also going way too far to ignore the existence of archetypes. Like the existence of a love goddess archetype, or even just "love" as an archetype, makes more sense than they're being a literal Aphrodite Nordic alien who kept coming back to Earth every few hundred years like he literally espouses. I think he's also just ideologically opposed to even considering not only the notion of a God (which is understandable) but also anything that gets in the way of pure individuality, which I guess archetypes and deities and spiritual forces and egregores would do that. Basically a rejection of some sort of force or spiritual commonality that is binding us all together. He's completely dismissive of people who have had mystical experiences with oneness or the Source or whatever.
Anyone who stills believes in aliens is not very spiritually adept I'm afraid. There is no such thing as "outer space" and the idea of the firmament is much closer to the reality of the situation. Not to say that there is literally a glass bowl placed over the earth or anything like that, but space isn't as "out there" as people think it is (and consequently aliens aren't real).
>>545915854He doesn't hate blue-eyed blonde-haired people.>>545915671You don't have to be Nordic to have non-brown eyes. >>545915682He's also very adamant that the Moon is an artificial archontic soul harvesting thing. And I know Gurdjieff kinda implied that too, but at least you could be more esoteric with his implication. Jorjani says it's a literal hollow construct with a human slave population and a whole bunch of things that should be outright observable. I think he speaks as if he's qualified in subjects that he isn't. He isn't a physicist, for instance.
>>545915983Is space being generated / projected / simulated by us? Tom Campbell says something like that. The same would apply to the past.
>>545908244No>>545907984They're slaves
>>545915573>really are just Nordic human beings, they are just a breakawayImpossible
>>545907984Ou vey it's the reptilians who are the good guys
>>545916238is that Joe Biden
>>545915904>which I guess archetypes and deities and spiritual forces and egregores would do that.He doesn't deny the existence of egregores or magical rituals, not sure why you're getting that idea. He just thinks that actually worshipping such deities as superior beings is an incredibly cucked behavior that robs humanity of our own power. He doesn't deny the existence of psy abilities at all. He would just say that you don't need to rely on external forces to do anything
>>545916131"Projected by us" implies that space is contingent on human minds to exist, which is not quite accurate. It's more like an interplay of astral (non-physical) and physical forces. There's a reason that within occultism planets are related to certain gods, or more accurately certain celestial intelligence. In the same way there's a spiritual force behind your existence (i.e. the spirit), there's a spiritual force behind the existence of various celestial bodies (and space itself). The point being that the mechanical model of space isn't correct.
>>545908139Nordica are aliens.
>>545907984Skyrim belongs to the Nords. We should not have to worry about being robbed or attacked by Dunmer.
>>545907984we're not tyrantswe created the one civilization most worthy of this namewe're better than you, is all
>>545907984Holy shit I forgot about this guy, I think he wanted to be installed as an Israeli puppet shah or something
>>545916313>He doesn't deny the existence of egregores or magical rituals, not sure why you're getting that idea. He just thinks that actually worshipping such deities as superior beings is an incredibly cucked behavior that robs humanity of our own power.Occultists don't do that. Hence the whole "working with" deities instead of "worshipping" them. >He doesn't deny the existence of psy abilities at all. He would just say that you don't need to rely on external forces to do anythingThe more chaos magick perspective is that deities are technologies / constructs designed to help you harness those psy abilities and do magic. And I would say yeah, 99% of people do need external support. Him included, based on his own testimony according to you. Working through a deity is the spiritual equivalent of buying a gun instead of relying on brute force to defend yourself when you're 120 lbs.
>>545916131matter changes on an atomic level that means atoms do not touch but they vibrate and rotate. that leads to the realization that matter directly interacts or reacts with the "imagination" of consciousness which in turn means that you imagine matter. the world you see is fundamentally light that is processed through your eyes via the back of your brain the visual cortex the so-called occipital lobe and is produced - thus the world we see is not really what it is. does not mean that it is necessarily a simulation it is rather that your consciousness creates a body not your body creates a consciousness the fundamental worldview is put to the test here better said nigga most of you do not know what they see because niggas are completely retarded
>>545916333But Earth is functionally the center of the universe then, right?
The pladies are under the constant watch of the Ariya Sinhala, nothing they do goes unsupervised by me. They're like a toddler in a warfield, without my presence they're doomed.You dig deep inside the rabbit hole, you go through normie illuminati, you look at freemasons, look at the innermost and see Jews and pladies. But you never hit the ground, the based reality, the Ariya Sinhala was always improvising for them.You need dharma and wheels to spin
>>545908244Let me guess, you only know Scandinavians as Vikings and maybe, *maybe* a Baltic terror. The Danish are the only acceptable Scandinavian and I'd wager that's because they're attached to Germany.
