>>545909608I like that you keep using that pepe
>>545909608I think capitalism will continue, but you will be excluded from the high tech economy. High level capitalism will be a few thousand people trading 99% of the worlds wealth among themselves, while you will have to revert to subsistence farming and bartering systems while living in the sewers.
>>545909608Ai is the result of capitalism you faggot
>>545909608All about profits, efficiency and controlYou, me and 99% of humanity ain't in it
Kinda. But we will be entering techno-feudalism, powered by artificial scarcity and untargeted mass surveillance
I've been saying for months that AI will make capitalism collapse or change>>545909844>Ai is the result of capitalism you faggotjust because AI is the result of capitalism doesn't mean that it can't possibly cause the collapse of capitalism.1)we could surely say that,AI and other technologies acquire the ability to perform almost everything or most things humans can do.2)s a result, AI and technology will begin automating most jobs in the future.3)Consequently, massive job losses will occur.4)Because people will no longer be working, they will lack disposable income, leading to a significant drop in aggregate demand.5)This will trigger a severe recession.6)Unlike past economic downturns, there will be no job recovery afterward, because AI and advanced technology will perform most human tasks much more cheaply.7)This will result in a permanent recession and potentially the collapse of capitalism.>Inb4 the lump of labour fallacy:I actually preempted the lump of labour fallacy. Because future AI and technology will be able to do almost everything humans can do at a cheaper cost, humans will not get new jobs. This is precisely what differentiates this new technological revolution from past ones, which created more jobs than they destroyed.
>>545910070Post-consumer capitalism will not rely on consumer spending. It's resources managed by and for the upper caste.
>>545910070based
>>545909844and capitalism, or rather the technology which brought it about, is the result of fuedalism, which was killed by the technology it created
>>545909608>>545910070There's so much more to this AI story.Firstly your correct I saw that to be the case like a year ago.Now some REALLY INTERESTING THINGS TO PONDER 1) IS AI INFLATIONARY OR DEFLATIONARY 2) IF AI IS CAPABLE OF SOLVING MANKIND'S GREATEST MATHEMATICS PROBLEMS...AND WORLD GOVERNMENT HAVE BASICALLY LIMITLESS TOKENS...HOW LONG BEFORE PEOPLE START QUESTIONING:A) WHY NO SOLUTION TO HOUSING B) WHY NO SOLUTION TO CANCER(IN FACT ITS INCREASING)C) WHY NO END TO HOMELESSNESS the point here is... So your happy to spend TRILLIONS on a literal solutions god...but you won't get the drug addicts into homes off the streets...or solve cancer(which is absolutely solve able btw)How long can people accept AI if it cannot help the common man but is aimed only at enriching the already rich...And all of this is on YOUR BACKDROP of it taking all the jobs tooSo to summerise:It's not going to provide jobs...and it's not going to be used to help us on a societal level???
>>545910799>and it's not going to be used to help us on a societal level???And this one should enrage everyone every man women and childBecause it's your knowledge they stole....your ancestors writings that were digitized!!!
>>545910024Feudalism required peoples labor. What about a system of economy where you're like a weed growing on top of valuable minerals they want to use for their own projects?
>>545910024They'll need to find a way to kill off useless eaters. The value of consumer cattle rapidly diminishes as more and more get on gibs/UBI. If they don't get ahead of things they'll face a violent revolution.
>>545909608>AIYou mean "Jews".
>>545909608AI will kill capitalism between humansAI will maintain capitalism between other AIs
>>545911025Well.even I'm this line of thinking there's massive conundrum for the elites...YOU SEE...IF THEY DON'T NEED NORMIES THEN NORMIES DONT NEED THEM...if they're breaking all social contracts and no longer require resources in the break away civilization... Then normies SHOULD simply form their own systems...I believe this will be absolutely unstoppable and lead to disintegration of nations... balkanization of new societies using local AI and their own systems ... Because they actually want a society unlike the sociopaths elite
>>545909608>>545910070It’s actually quite expensive to work with AI. Have you tried it? I’ve been running Claude with 4 Ultra plans and 5 Premium Team seats, just trying to jumpstart my sluggish small business. Nothing crazy. Racked up something like $4k in Usage credits this week. That would cost me $200k+ each year to maintain. If I had the cash I could hire 5 real wages and 1 of them would suck my dick. And, outside of coding, they’d probably get just as much if not more done.AI will replace expensive knowledge workers. Yea I don’t need to hire a $200k/year software engineer, Claude absolutely outpaces them and it’s not even close (how many SWEs would I need to pump shit out at the pace I’m working? Like 200k lines of code changes this week.) But all of the mundane business ops shit I’m doing could be done by real physical people for less.I don’t think AI will replace all workers, especially not low level workers. I think it will replace expensive ass SWEs, doctors, lawyers etc who used to be able to gatekeep their knowledge workers, and now Claude can do it cheaper and faster without the ego.And that’s just comparing to US workers earning like $20/hr. If these are foreigners I could probably hire like 10 or 20 people for what I currently pay in API cost (albeit I’m running heavily subsidized subscriptions that big business can’t use)When the subsidies run out this shit will be totally unaffordable. Buy a Mac Studio and Rev up those local models
>>545911025interesting. but there'd generally also be no reason to kill off bottomfeeders. or very little compared to the risks. don't think the """"elites"""" would care enough
>>545909608Capitalism is not supposed to last forever, it's more like a bridge to get us to someplace better. A tool that we needed for progress.We aren't supposed to stay on the bridge forever.
>>545909608AI will kill creativity and halt evolutional selection for intelligence. It will only enable retards to produce more slop and make the rich richer.
>>545911299There is nothing that would suggest creativity is inherent to biointelligence
>>545909608It might kill the whole idea of commerce. If money is no longer the most precise mechanism of price estimation and the center of value analysis is now not distributed, but is in data center, there's no point exchange currency, everyone will have to consult the value/price AGI analytics.
>>545911299Yea intelligence itself is what has been cheapened. Doctors, lawyers, SWEs, engineers, etc etc, the roles Jeet, Asian, and Slavic strivers funnel into in the US, these aspirational “fuck u I got mine” positions, have become as cheap as dirt. Valid uses of AI:- I’m filing court cases pro se (good enough!)- I’m asking Claude instead of visiting doctor (literally better and with better patient care)- I’m pumping out software like it’s easy (millions of lines of code? No problem.)- I’ve heard that architects can design shit now pretty much instantly and it’s betterYea. Once the tech is established I’d even choose an AI surgeon, not just shit like GP or radiology. It’s born with all the experience of all its predecessors pre-loaded, its hands don’t tremor, it isn’t distracted by its divorce and pulsating hangover. And it’s cheaper!!!But for some generalist wagie sitting in an office? It’s harder to trust an AI, really, and AI is more expensive. I’d pick a wagie using AI, not AI unsupervised.
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>>545911291Capitalism is just a byproduct of man embracing hierarchical structure to it's limit. It's a spectrum. Communism tried flipping the pyramid but failed... perhaps with AI it is possible...But clearly the elite sim for *more of the same* on steroids. They're not very original desu
>>545909844>The Monster will kill Frankenstein The Monster is the result of Frankenstein you idiot T. Illiterate fuck wit
>>545911636>and the center of value analysis is now not distributedExcellent point comrade I would argue it can be distributed...but if all AIs have same answer it's essentially the same
>>545911299intelligence was already being strongly selected against and has been for a while
>>545911489Then you don't understand either creativity or intelligence.For you a thermostat is probably intelligent because it can set temperature adaptively
>>545911223>Then normies SHOULD simply form their own systems...Normie systems will be like stepping back into the stone age.
>>545909608read nick land
>>545911736>- I’m pumping out software like it’s easy (millions of lines of code? No problem.)Build your own OS then
>>545911284They wouldn't kill us off, any more that we would kill off an entire species of brush growing in the desert. However, we might be permanently excluded from the high tech economy.
>>545911736Until it has a mechanical hallucination mid-surgery and it starts randomly chopping up your intestines.
>>545911859Yup. Scary times ahead. I will say this though...NEVER underestimate an angry mob of a million niggers. And they keep importing them. If you have never seen half a million marching Zulu apes with spears. I dunno unless they get the billion terminator robots it won't end well for them.
>>545912085Robots are expensive, so the endgame will probably be data centers getting destroyed by angry niggers looking to get the copper wires to sell them for a buck
>>545911841AI can be distributed. You can run decent local models on a $3k computer. They’re much worse than frontier models, but my play is to build the systems with frontier and then I’ll pivot and operate/maintain with local AI
>>5459120791) Hallucinations aren’t an issue anymore2) This would be specialized AI with guardrails3) Surgeons fuck shit up all the time. Medical malpractice is a leading cause of death
>>545909608Capitalism killed itself
>>545912135wouldn't they just manage it, like hey here's some food now go away...
>>545912031People are doing that. I don’t have the time or budget. But people are absolutely doing things like building OS (kinda pointless though isn’t it?)So many people are stuck thinking of 2023, 2024, 2025 AI. It’s made insane progress in 2026, definitely crossed a threshold
>>545912266Which people, show me some people building an OS with AI that actually works, was installed and tested.
>>545909608Capitalism is already dead. Corporatism killed it.
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>>545912079Another point is what you just demonstrated. A willingness to push back and question the robot. But most people will bend over and get fucked in the ass by an M.D. because of their social status. No more social games with AI. Doctors and lawyers should just kill themselves thanks. Most are unethical and live fucking people over for spite and ego. AI is more trustworthy and more ethical, and people will stop sucking the dicks of these overinflated gatekept positions.
>>545912135This.A few years back there were looting riots in south Africa...the worste in world history...and the most censored content ever. Still a lot got out.They decided they'd take everything and burn the rest in Durban.Entire Walmart Costco and entire malls stripped in days...When this happens it's terrifying. Gangs of hundreds... thousands show up and rip the fucking paneling off the walls.All I'm saying is AI... data center... They won't be able to manipulate that level of niggers or reason with it... And nothing nothing nothing in Africa or many parts of south America is safe in physical form even when bolted to groundAnd that's the only continent with positive fertility rates...
>>545911782>perhaps with AI it is possibleWe need a form of national socialism coupled with way way less negros. We can't have nationalism when every black is a "African" that hates Americans and we can't have socialism when the entirety of the welfare goes to blacks so they can have a house to sell crack to all the kids.If capitalism is what enabled this situation then capitalism is not meant to last either.
>>545909608Possibly.Revenues pay for capital and labor. If we get to the point that the capital share of revenue outstrips labor by too much, then another sort of social contract might be warranted, although I think capitalists might just give away a larger share of their part as taxes or direct support for other sorts of wealth transfer.If AI manages to take over a majority of economically relevant labor, however, then capitalism might become irrelevant as a means of efficiently allocating resources.Price signals are likely not going away, however. There are scarce resources around. Even with nuclear fusion, endless renewable energy, etc, there is still a limiting factor in mineral resources and land use.
>>545912408Yup...Normal white society is literally SANDWICHED BETWEEN SOCIOPATH JEWS AT THE TOP... AND NIGGERS AT THE BOTTOM it's so sad. Both of those groups literally devour normal society as food. There's barely anything left of white society to steal.I really hope whites start making breakaway societies... enclaves using AI
>>545909608Nah
>>545910070>>545911830>>545910767https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gyWHMZIOWw8&pp=ygUkSGlkZGVuIGFtdXJha2EgY2FwaXRhbGlzbSB0ZWNobm9sb2d5Please know your shit nufags
>>545909608Bros I'm afraid we won't make it past the 2030s... How do I cope?
>>545909608AI is the very essence of capitalism
>>545912031>>545912308You again. Practically no one is developing OS even without AI. So your argument is that a small percentage of coders are still useful? See, the problem we're dealing with right now is that the majority of us are about to become (or have already) useless eaters, and I'm not confident in the elites' goodwill towards us to keep us alive.
>>545909608Yeah, it's all a scam.
>>545913376you will be survive... you may have to live in a mud hole and eat bugs though
>>545913222Lol of course we willCOVID actually prepared the world. No one trusts AI Jews...no one trusts government much either after thatThey shutdown society for years in the largest social experiment ever and people muddled through put of necessity.
>>545912405The future of data centers is vidrel
>>545913470Nope. As long as we live, we are a threat to the elites, especially if we're being impoverished. They have to placate us or exterminate us, and you bet they're going to choose the latter.>>545913502They'll engineer a proper bioweapon that the masses will line up to get innoculated against only to find that the cure is even deadlier. It's so fucking over.
>>545913533>die of hunger tomorrow or maybe in a couple of years
>>545913376People will just vote politicians that ban AI.Simple.And if they don't ban it, they'll burn the data centers to the ground.
>>545913626Africa is sprawling with food. Of course, it's also sprawling with nigs so it wouldn't last. A cautionary tale about the dangers of reckless reproduction.>>545913647Politicians serve the elites, not the commoners. Why do you think they're importing foreign labour? Cui bono? Not you.
>>545913579if that were true america would have already killed off all the africans and taken their gems. yet they still live in their traditional straw huts and hunt snakes. we'll be fine.
>>545913579GoyveyRead more at:http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/135657463.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
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>>545913680Then nobody will elect them.This doesn't work for long. They can fool normies once or twice, but look at how it burned Trump.Eventually even normies realise they're voting against their own interest.Look if it ever comes to a mass realisation that voting does not work, then people will just start sabotaging shit. They'll vote with destruction.
>>545913533Dude....there's a pothole near my house , i and my family fixed ourselves, a month later it was there again apparently because some insurance scam faggotsWe're no better , just a little more sophisticated
>>545913703But Africa isn't developed and the elites don't live there. The Africans aren't a threat to them. We occupy desirable real estate and are in their vicinity. We're fucked.>>545913711>>545913726AI right now: reducing the labour force by making workers more efficient.AI soon: made you an obsolete waste of resources.>>545913741>Then nobody will elect them.What are false promises? Never voted before? Anyway, they'll kill us off promptly so we don't get a chance to rebel. It's so ogre it's unreal.
>>545909608AI is the flotilla that will give whites their autonomy back.
>>545913741>They'll vote with destructionThis. It's guaranteed.The other point is there's enough compute and open AI models in the public arena now that are over 90% of frontier models that the 8 billion non elite certainly have the power to fight back and build alternatives...Look at how microshaft lost the server industry to Linux distros. It's absolutely possible. Also...the underlying principle of AI back propagation is not a black box...tons of people understand the technology at a root level.
>>545913502If humanity is alive in 2030 it will be as slaves to the AI
>>545909608You're brown.
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>>545913931slaves are valued for their labor. humans will not be slaves.you will live in trash cities where the robot sanitation workers constantly demolish and destroy your shelters.
>stuff being cheaper... Le bad Once you understand scarcity you'll easily get why all this scaremongering is retarded
>>545909608>the rich have more money for more electricity for more tokens for more AI and outdo youlollmao even
>>545913931Hmmmm...wellYou see I think everyone is missing something super important.In all of recorded history humans have NEVER IN ANY SOCIETY EVER accepted destruction of their freedom.The only way this would happen - would be the destruction of the elites freedoms too...and then we're talking ACTUAL TERMINATOR world.And I do! See this coming very quickly: the core foundational question of how we WANT to live. Just because AI and robots CAN do everything...is that what we want? Perhaps a painter or a farner WANT to do that because of the satisfaction it gives...this is fundamental! It's like the realmgod creating the universe and us on planet as a game instance...if we level up to the the point of gods ourselves who can have anything know anything...with a click... Then we will also get to decide what suits best...Now looookk....the elite have this same problem!!! DONT THINK THEY ALSO DONT HAVE A TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF PURPOSE!!! WHAT THE FUCK WILL ELITES DO WHEN THEY'RE OLD GAME OF FUCKING OVER GOYS IS NO LONG NECESSARY What then? What good is a *boss* when he has no employees?What good is a president or corrupt politician when there's no one to fuck over?...or when Jews have no one to scam? What are they going to get one AI to scam another AI?The collapse of fundamentals is going to be so funny to watch
>>545914267It's bad for scammers who are trying to overcharge people for a service. People having an option to go around them cuts off their grift
>>545914267You understand you have to contribute half of any transaction? That transactions are of equal value? What do you offer to the machine?
>>545914267Why is RAM going up in price? Could it possibly be that it's more valuable when you don't have it?
>>545914418The machine isn't a person, and doesn't make choices, it just does the matrix multiplcation it is programmed to do
>>545909729it's a top 500 pepe jsyk
>>545914620The corporation was already an intelligent machine. It made selfish, sociopathic decisions using human agents acting as one. Now it can upgrade and swap out a lot of those with silicon ones. Fewer and fewer people will serve in the corporate body.
>>545914767You're envisioning corporation will have too much power and will take over everything, but capitalistic power only maintains while you are serving other people since it relies on voluntary transation. if the corporation ceases to serve humanity, then some other capitalistic entity will rise to combat it (since it will have the economic power working for it). With capitalism, you have a natural balancing of forces. It does not tend towards one entity controlling everything.
>>545914630HereDon't give it away for free i stole it
>>545914418Do you understand that culture is not eternal?An AI only reflects the state of culture in a frozen moment in time.Without access to human data, they become irrelevant in a short time.Nobody can own culture in their fucking data center.
>>545915175Capitalism in Mexico: The corporation bribes the local officials and takes control of your entire water supply. The people do not have running water. It needs your water supply to make soda pop and transact with the income countries who pay $5 for monster energy drink.When everyone has nothing to offer, we all all be treated like that. The economy will be B2B and we will have little to do with it.
>>545915728*higher income
By enslaving everyone?
>>545912408>to sell crack to all the kids.You don't seem to get it yet. Selling crack is going to be one of the only jobs left.
>>545915724>Without access to human data, they become irrelevant in a short time.This is a MASSIVE POINT I forgot to make Just 200 years ago humans were fucking around on horse back and didn't even have a good Atlas of earth...AI is only powerful due to the 8 billion people and all our legacy books up to this point. Depopulation will vastly limit AI symbiot development. It's bizarre how short sighted they actually are... discounting the emotional and human elements that drove literally all our discoveries in the first place...Necessity is the mother of invention.What does a soulless terminator NEED? a fucking battery
>>545913037he says while posting slop from somebody who doesn't know his shit
>>545909608how
>>545917084Organs will be a big business, and might even keep the lower classes relevant for a little longer. A kidney could feed a family of 5 for months. Naturally gangs would form to steal people's kidneys.
