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People often point to India’s average IQ as a reason not to worry about Indian competition. The estimate usually quoted is 82. Let’s take that number at face value.
IQ scores are scaled so the average is 100 and most people fall within 15 points of it. India has about 1.48 billion people. With an average of 82, the numbers look like this:
>About 174 million people score above 100.
>About 21 million people score above 115.
>About 1 million people score above 130.

The UK has about 69 million people. India has more than twice that many people who score above average. The Netherlands has about 18 million people. India has more people scoring above 115 than the Netherlands has people in total. The UK has about 11 million people above 115. India has nearly twice as many. India’s group above 130 is about a million people. That’s roughly the population of Birmingham.

The average doesn’t matter much here. Employers don’t hire the average person. They hire from the top, and India’s top end is the size of a European country.
Two more things make this pool easy to hire from.
>The first is English. India’s 2011 census counted about 129 million English speakers. That’s almost twice the UK’s population. Calls, emails and documents work without translation.
>The second is democracy. India has courts, contracts and institutions that Western companies recognise. A British or American firm can hire there or open an office there without much trouble with the rules. Most other large, lower-wage countries don’t offer that.

tldr: it's all about numbers and how IQ has a normative distribution.
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And Indians are willing to work for less, without workers rights.
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I've met plenty of dumbass jeets though. Somehow they got hired by American employers despite how dumb they are.
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>>545909650
they don't "take" the job. they are hired for the job. they can't and won't do the job. its called labor fraud. they pay their jeet managers to be on the payroll and for h1b visa. no work gets done they try to steal credit from non-jeet employees. everybody gets paid the company gets ripped off.
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>>545909845
Well yeah, the same distribution follows for those below 100.
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>>545909650
Don't bother.
Literal 95 IQ idiots on this website assume a 115 IQ jeet is automatically below them because of skin colour.
Logic doesn't work here. They'll just seethe anyway.
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>>545909946
Well, I support stopping Indian immigration because it's bad for our middle and higher classes. It's also bad for India to lose their best people.
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>>545909910
My point is that evidently employers aren't hiring from the top.
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>>545910022
Typically they do or try to.
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>>545909650
That's how it used to work before, when hardly any Indians were in the West and some companies could handpick some smart and decent Indians. Now is a different era, where a whole scam infrastructure is built and some 85 Iq scammer can go through a nepotism pipeline to make himself appear like he is a genius software engineer. And with scammer hiring other scammers we get a runaway effect of absolute filth flooding into our industries and the few genuine intelligent jeets get swept away and don't even make a difference anymore because in an ocean of low iq scammers, one good man can only drown or try to run his own scam. The whole biosphere of society is tipping if enough Indians are around and cant be salvaged anymore, except for physical removal.
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>>545910113
The Indian scam culture and nepotism is another layer on top of this, but it doesn't negate what I've stated in the OP.
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>>545909650
The higher your IQ the worse employee you make because of your capacity for consciousness. Employers want serfs, not their equals or worse, enployees who are smarter than them. This is why you'll rarely see a total loser with retard-level IQ while high-IQ people end up unemployable and on meds.
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>>545910067
Then evidently they often fail.
Anyway, I have reason to doubt that most jeets moving to Western countries are geniuses.
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>>545909845
it appears they get hired specifically because they are dumb
probably HR wanting to be the smartest in the room, scared of being outsmarted
>takes down entire company with them
trite
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>>545910177
They don't need to be geniuses, 115-120 IQ is enough to take jobs like medical doctor, engineer, etc.
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>>545909946
a 115 IQ jeet should understand hes also fighting against the reputation of a numerically superior number of 85 IQ jeets
(or he isnt actually 115 IQ)
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>>545910233
Don't be pedantic, you know what I mean.
But just in case, I'll rephrase:
>I have reason to doubt that most jeets moving to Western countries have above-average IQs.
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Nobody wants to work anywhere near 70IQ dung eaters
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>>545910148
But it is impossible to handpick the genuine smart Indians anymore, because they are hidden in a sea of scammers, like a needle in a haystack. And all the hay has built a scamosphere of fraud in appearing like needles. That's also why the highly intelligent Jeets can't improve their own country back in India, because of this same effect. Geniuses also need the 'fertile soil' of a high trust, safe and civilized society to be able to shine. If enough low Iq Jeets are around, this has become an impossibility
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>>545910275
The US definitely gets the top % of Indians. The UK used to, but stopped over 20 years ago.
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>>545909650
Fun fact. Despite India having 1.5B people, they have 0 (zero) medalists in top competitive programming competions like Google code jam, hacker cup and ICPC. This is despite CS being their biggest major.

Even South Africa and Argentina have a medalist.
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>>545910328
>the top % of Indian
Nobody wants any Indians. Any company that employ these retards turns to shit and they've never made a single product or invention worth anything. You're not convincing anyone.
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>>545910384
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just stating facts. This is the reason why people like Jeetlon Moosk wants more H1B indians in the US, he has basically said the same thing, without directly quoting IQ numbers.
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>>545910328
>The US definitely gets the top % of Indians.
Why do you think that's the case?
>The UK used to, but stopped over 20 years ago.
Assuming that's the case, what do you think the reason for that is?
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>>545910651
>Why do you think that's the case?
You pay a lot more money and it's a lot easier to get rich in the US, especially when you're already wealthy. Many of the Indians coming to the USA are already wealthy or from educated families with the means to get wealthy once given American opportunies.
>Assuming that's the case, what do you think the reason for that is?
Because we're a shithole compared to the 1990s.
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>>545910790
Wealth doesn't imply intelligence.
Besides, almost everyone who comes to America no matter from where or how wealthy they are does so for economic reasons.
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>>545910411
He wants Indians because they're servile and don't care about low wages. Most Indians aren't working at SpaceX they're working at shitty motels and petrol stations.
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Indians take over every industry. First they scam their own by forcing them to pay upfront in India for a job in Canada, or by taking a portion of their wages, then they bring them here on a visa to replace Canadian workers.

They are intelligent enough to have achieved full takeovers of nations. They are operating at the same level as jews.
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>>545909650
Jeets have no concept of honesty. They scam and fraud as easily as they breathe. They fake ever qualification and credential and their endless persistence means someone will fall for the trick eventually, then one of them slithers into management after which they only hire more of their own kind.
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>>545909650
Its a combination of like you said: The outliers. And also willing to do shit other whites won't.
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>>545912055
I've worked with Jeets in IT. The male Jeets are a weird bunch. Like some of these Jeets try to be commandeering. But you see they don't grasp what you say. And rather than saying: I do not understand. They go silent and just not fix the problem. As if when we do not discuss it, the problem goes away. You have female jeeta's and they know how to kiss the right people on the asshole. And you have the jeets amongst themselves. They know what they're doing. They know the system is set up for them to come in. They fake certifications, there is a full economy of faking IT certifications with it's own test modules and things we call DUMPS. It's managed by Chinese and by Jeets and there is a huge market for it. As there are millions upon millions of Jeets that just are learning the answers of the test rather than grasping the concepts. So they can just stack MS certificates and nestle inside a company long enough to either climb through nepotism. Or just fake the position and try to swim when they're not really equipped to flourish. You have some competent Jeets too. And they're good to work with. These Jeets know the game, they're silent. They'd rather work with competent people and they also look down on the dumb whites (let's be honest, there is a shit ton of dumb people at the wrong positions amongst whites too.)
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>>545910959
>Wealth doesn't imply intelligence.
Not necessarily but it is correlated well above randomness. It's logical, really.
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>>545911198
The big problem is that Jeets are also taking all the shit jobs now, because again, there's just many of them and they have ethnic networks formed by the prior, more intelligent, Jeets that came here decades ago. Speaking specifically about the UK and Canada.
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>>545911114
>Most Indians aren't working at SpaceX they're working at shitty motels and petrol stations.
Correct, because there are so many of them. Doesn't change the fact that people like Elon want to import them to take middle class jobs.
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>>545910959
>Besides, almost everyone who comes to America no matter from where or how wealthy they are does so for economic reasons.
And yes, because America is all about money.



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