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Elon Musk just now:

>Superintelligence will saturate all human needs by far. There will be universal high income, universal extremely high income, universal medical care that is better than the best medical care available on Earth today. You could wish for a castle or whatever you want, basically, and digital superintelligence can make it for you as a side project.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2119760279391142139

All of this is going happen soon because Earths resources are unlimited, but only the modRNA/LNP-vaccinated will have a chance to live long enough to indulge themselves in this paradise. Unvaccinated will be deprived of the Universal High Income (UHI) because they spread diseases xD
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>Superintelligence
Opinion discarded.
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>>545913925
>there will be universal income [for you], universal high income [for my employees] and universal extremely high income [for me and my pals, and this will never change]
I'm not sure I like his plan.
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>>545913925
How do you control something that smart if its an AI not a giga computer?
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>>545913925
Not deriding Musk
But I will only believe this
When I see a clear pathway to all of the things he mentioned

At this time, I don't see it yet
All I see is a NECESSITY for UBI, because economies simply will not be able to create new jobs at the rate necessary
While old ones disappear at a very rapid rate

Especially when the Robot Revolution also kicks in alongside the AI Revolution
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>>545913925
Nigga can barely make a human move a mouse without frying the brain and he's speaking about uploading consiousness.
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uploading your brain into a robot doesn't make you immortal, you just create an imperfect robotic clone of yourself that will break down eventually, while you die alone in your aging body just like you would have anyway.
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>>545913925
Trust me, if neuralink really do deliver vision back to blind people then you can be sure that we might not be able to live biologically forever right now but we probably will be able to keep our "digital twin" inside a machine until we figure how to download it back.

The fly already lives in that simulation, doesn't?
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>>545913925
lmao, the assumption that the brain is anything but a transceiver and avatar control system is hilarious
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>>545913925
Elon the Diviner, he throws out 100 bold theses about the future and just hopes that one of them actually pans out.
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>>545913925
>if you just keep giving me trillions of dollars your life will be better.

Nah, I know a flim flam when I see it and this bitch came to America to do exactly that and so far its worked.

These fuckers like him and Peter and Sam wanted to join the Illuminati type shit and wasnt allowed, to nerdy, to unstable, to unviable. So they are making their own, only this time with Tech.
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>>545913925
>I’m gonna promise another sci fi shit I saw on netflix and you will finance my nothingburger with another billion while I delivered NOTHING YET.
Mutts deserve all their suffering, is self inflicted.
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ok
when's the autopilot (without asterisks) release date?
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>>545913925
good post
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You're going to prison Musk. Or exile. Or the grave.
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>>545914046
Jeet stop sucking dicks we all know you just want a green card as a “robot expert” now, die in your shit.
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>>545914174
The same day catgirls is. Give two more billions.
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>>545913925
Elon musk is going to put himself in a robot with very large breasts
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>>545913925
>You could wish for a castle or whatever you want, basically, and digital superintelligence can make it for you as a side project
*in minecraft
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>>545913925
>says AI could kill us all
>proceeds to say ai will do everything for us in the future

Top shelf jewish lies right here.
These subhumans really cant stop fantasizing about have slaves, one way or another, can they .....
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technically will be your clone eternal life not yours.
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>>545913925
If Elon really believes this, then why does he cry about the democrats taxing him on twitter? This "universal extremely high income" he's talking about would at least require extremely high taxes, if not the complete nationalization of all major industry.
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>>545914316
If there's no functional difference between two entities for outside observer, does it matter?
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They're really trying to make 'fetch' a thing, aren't they? Obviously they're trying to cultivate deference to AI. Which is just as obviously proxy for those who program it.
May the nasty control freaks know nothing but frustration in this lifetime
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>>545913925
You cannot download "consciousness" which is fixed to your physical form.
You would be making a copy, as I am almost sure someone else in this thread has mentioned by now.
That copy is not (You).
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Why isn't that corrupt traitor in prison yet?
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>>545914065
The immortality the tech overlords are speaking about is not the kind of SPIRITUAL immortality that most people have in mind

What they have in mind is something is more easily tangible and perhaps limited
Its more of a 'memory' and cognition
Humans that will spend most of their time in their robotic version
And some minimal time in their biological version only if an when necessary
Just enough to keep the system ticking.

I dont think they really care about deeper things such as affection, compassion etc
This may not be appealing to all, but it is perhaps functional
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>I'm going to teach this robot how to be a ketamine abusing narcissist and leave my estate to it
Billionaires aren't going to get torn apart by zombie hordes. They're going to get poisoned by their own children
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>>545913925
We're all going to be butterflies, bros.

When is he going to use mRNA to give himself a breast reduction?
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>>545913925
Words Words Words Plz Like Me Words Words. I want to be like the socialists too and manipulate the NPCs with promises Words Words

Its not that I dont believe that all of that can technically happen. Is that in order to reach there, one must first tell all the people / hedge funds currently getting rich off AI that they also cant constantly be buying land and houses so at to make everyone a rent slave forever.

This is the bit no one ever has the guts to tackle. They talk about an abstract "far future" but have no solution to the imminent future squeezing people out.
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>>545913925
Haha, he's now selling eternal life. Pumping his net worth again.
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>>545913925
I'll get UBI when this faggot steps foot on Mars
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>>545913925
Someone take this wannabe antichrist nigger's money and distribute it equally to all Americans
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>>545913925
I don’t see any Chinese secret agents trying to fuck him…so…is he really worth listening to about this? Think about it
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>>545914398
matters for you. you don’t live forever. just some robot pretending to be you using chatGPT. that’s extremely fucking retarded
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>>545914473
it won't be any other way but the spiritual kind, especially once people reach the top and see the horizon ahead.
We could in theory end up in a really weird world depending on how far our understanding of time comes and what a quantum communication system could lead towards. It would be an ever changing future working to control the past to reshape itself constantly and somewhere in that battle is you and I.
But once at the horizon, the battle is suddenly over. That's the whole idea behind SkyNet.

That in itself could be a closed loop we're supposed to escape, it seems way too inviting, plus Elon Musk is one of the biggest conmen alive if not the biggest of all time.
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>>545913925
can AI detroon his som? bring his peepee back?
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what will happen is the jews will have a permanent underclass kept in line with shit like flock and loitering drone swarms who will instakill you if you aren't a good goy. palestine was just a test run
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>>545914642
>gay faggot made up shit photo

okay mr make believe what ever (you) are a dumb faggot so nothing you say even really matters because you gay faggots say the same gay made up shit
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>>545913973
Vetoed, you mean vetoed libtard. Get used to it.
Transgender isn’t real.
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>>545914762
This is unironically a great point
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>>545913925
THIS GUY IS THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST
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>>545914157
Our investor class deserves to pour capital into snake oil, they are profoundly shitty people and Elon "Wannabe Island Boy" Musk is the shittyjeet scamsaar they really need
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>>545914473
>What they mean is a loose copy of you will do things that you loosely might have done based on what a computer says
So not immortality.
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>>545914837
What use would a tech overlord have for affection and compassion and similar such emotions
I would think they would see it as a hindrance.

They would try to preserve useful traits and capabilities such as ambition, intelligence, perseverance pain tolerance etc
But they would perhaps get rid of what hey would likely consider the 'fluff' of human existence
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>>545913925
Here's what will actually happen:
All jobs that require a computer will be erased. All jobs that require transportation will be erased. Basically all jobs will be gone.

However, you will still be expected to pay for everything and pay taxes. The cost of everything will go up while your ability to pay for it will vanish.
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>>545914473
Fuck I hate how stupid you cunts are. Unless you ship-of-thesius your brain slowly into a robotic version, you arent transferring wetware into digital. You can make an image of it at best, but your conciousness isnt shifting from one to the other.
This is fuel for retarded midwidts, and its feasible to make biological imortality possible, rendering all the gay talk about robots irrelevant
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>>545914398
I get LITERALLY ZERO benefit from any of this, I don't at any point pop into the clone's head. Best they could hope for is ship of thesiusing someone's brain to slowly switch over through years - by grafting on new brain tissue and removing the old but matching it perfectly, and this would be immortality possibly, this isn't what they're talking about.
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>>545914994
You could say that
I prefer to put immortality on a spectrum
Where humans at the highest end humans retain things such as love, affection, compassion etc
And at the low end, they would have cognition, memory etc

We will retain a very low end version of immortality
A limited version of ourselves
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>>545913925
Good to see you xD anon, people were saying you were the Krakow shooter.
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Universal income would only work in a White or Japanese society. If you give starving niggers universal income they will keep having kids till they are starving again.
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>>545913925
>Superintelligence
I believe you've lost, Mr. Migger.
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>>545915051
If you are able to swap memory and cognition back and forth between biological and robotic
According to me, we have achieved a low end version of immortality

but reasonable people may disagree
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>>545913925
Think you're too good for death?
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>>545915095
That's what I meant: slowly replacing parts of the brain, without losing your inner self in the process. Christcuks will disagree of course, but the physical processes in the brain are ruled by the same laws of physics as everything else.
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>>545915193
You are not memory or cognition. You as a concious entity can exist without an adequate level of either.
Again, much easier to increase lifespan or put a brain in a jar. Its like saying you made a painting digital ignoring that the end result is not paint on a canvas.
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>>545913925
>soon because Earths resources are unlimited, but

I mean. I don't see us building little terminator suits for ants to compete with humans at tasks.

What makes you think AI will create and maintain physical Optimum Bot suits from hooman?
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>>545914438
he's safe til 2029 but he'll just move to argentina or something before then
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>>545915283
I understand that the mental aspect of human existence is much more than memory and cognition typically speaking

But in the world that we live in currently, a 'person' with mere memory and cognition would still be considered to be a 'alive'
Consider how much brain damage a person has to sustain to be declared a vegetable in today's medical and perhaps medico legal definitions
I could easily see a scenario where a memory plus cognition individual would be considered sufficiently alive
Even if said individual has not capacity for other things such as love or compassion etc

Please remember that all this will be decided by powers that be
This will not be left to ordinary citizens
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>>545915279
Yeah sure sweetie any day now we will have a computer that does this even though supercomputers the size of houses can't mimic a human brain and they also need a small nuclear plant and 3,000 gallons of water a minute to operate.
>I meant the biological method bro!
OK, then this is just another method of regrowing brain tissue and it has no relation to whatever the thread is about.
>>545915113
No, that's not immortality. You're not alive forever, which is what immortality is. This is just what the words mean and there's no such thing as an immortality spectrum, make up a new word for it if you want to but that's not what it means.
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>>545914312
>ai kills 99% of useless eaters
>the few high iq people get ubi
Thats it.
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>>545913925
And in that process, can we filter out leftism and religion from the person? Kind of like washing all the dirt and crud off from the mind.
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>>545915565
>This is just what the words mean and there's no such thing as an immortality spectrum, make up a new word for it if you want to but that's not what it means.

Perhaps that is what it is now
But words and definitions can change.
I am merely giving my prediction of what things will come to be

In a not too distant future
The legally essential part of you will be sitting in a pen drive somewhere
And that 'you' will be considered 'immortal'
This is the future I predict
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>>545915530
You dont have to have memory or cognition without conciousness, but you can have conciousness without either.
Please stop, you are the reason I bailed on Quora in 2015
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>>545914980
I’m just saying, Musk always says the craziest stupidest shit but I don’t see any chinkbug following him around, asking for access into Grok Labs. There’s probably something to that. It probably means he is useful but retarded
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>>545915002
all things come to a point
there is an eternal truth, even the wealthiest and most powerful men alive will understand if they keep doing what they're doing. Mathematicians and programmers have seen it when they've immersed themselves into their work throughout the eras.
>I would think they would see it as a hindrance
if they are evil and can't see beyond their own ego they are just a mechanism to fill the void with more bs, stop buying what they are selling.
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>>545913925
Elon is a twat. Why do you listen to him?
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>>545915734
Yes you can have consciousness without memory and cognition
But it would be a very limited version

That would not be the version that would be favored by the powers that be
Because such a citizen without memory or cognition
Will be of little use to them
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>>545914046
>Not deriding Musk
You better fucking not!
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>>545915279
>Christcuks will disagree
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>>545915846
I am not buying anything

I am merely trying to understand and predict
What the future will look like
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>>545915279
>the physical processes in the brain
why do you have to mutilate the penis then?
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>>545915701
>Words and definitions can change
oy vey
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>live forever in curated politically correct fantasy land
no thanks
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>>545916029
You can hate the message, but it is pointless to hate the messenger
Describing what the future would look like does not mean I approve of said future
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>>545914065
This obsession to living forever....i will never understand this
I wish he becomes an immortal being with an immortal body and falls off his yacht never to be found just sitting there for 5000 years till his nuclear reactor in his chest fizzles out
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>>545914082
It has already been done with a vision for the people with inpared vision. Like a fecade ago. Let us know whn they invent anything new
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Elon Musk:

America is 1000% going bankrupt without AI and robots.

“In the absence of AI and robotics, we’re actually totally screwed. The national debt is piling up like crazy.”

“We have over a trillion dollars just in interest payments.”

“We are 1000% going to go bankrupt as a country, and fail as a country, without AI and robots. Nothing else will solve the national debt.”

https://x.com/sachin2/status/2119439119684415644
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>>545913925
>There will be universal high income
>universal extremely high income
Muh wealth gap superiority must stay at all costs. t. billionaire
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Elon Musk:

"Money becomes irrelevant. I mean, there will be still a currency, but I think currency will be measured in fundamental physics metrics like power, like wattage and tonnage, mass and energy, or mass and power or energy, basically. But conventional currency will not matter in the future."

https://x.com/x2kekiusmaximus/status/2119440163126288702
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>>545913925
He's right, you know
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>>545913925
Most retarded shit I've read this week.
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>>545913925
>The Council Wars series explores the chaos that ensues after a high tech civilization collapses on Earth. [..]

>set several thousand years in the future, in a society with advanced nanotechnology, teleportation, and other technologies which effectively are magical in the sense of Clarke's law made real, all controlled and coordinated by an artificial intelligence called Mother. Initially the world is a near Eden. War has been gone for millennia. [..]

>Mother [..] is controlled by a Council of thirteen Key Holders who can change system directives and, if unanimous, change even her kernel-level programming. The council has split into two philosophical factions, and is in a battle for whose ideals will dominate the future of the human race. When one of the Council members dies without a clear successor to their Key, the faction split becomes numerically balanced. That faction split leads to war: something humans have not had for over a millennium.

>In the struggle for power, Mother's protocols forces her to split the available power between the voting members of the Council Members. [..] The result: Humanity plunges immediately from utopia to the Dark Ages. This event is known as "The Fall." The series follows the resultant chaos and destruction that follows, and the war itself. The war ends up being fought on two planes; not just with advanced technology, but with swords, cavalry, and legions.
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>>545913925
>Elon Musk just now:
He says a lot of stupid shit. Retarded even. LMAO
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>>545914046
>Indian flag

Anyways, I liked your angle on how economies won't be able to create new jobs while old ones disappear due to automation.

The question is, without UBI, what happens?

I know the roman republic and empire had a similar issue and so they had a "welfare program" whereby they distributed free bread and wine to the plebs.

Similarly the US has welfare and there are some who just live off this shit. However, the payout is way below the poverty line.

So to get around this many will just take their disability checks overseas and live in Vietnam or something. India might be possible too if it wasn't such a shithole.

But barring that possibility, which will become less possible over time with inflation and whatever, I don't see how UBI is sustainable especially considering how the poor tend to have more kids.
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>>545913925
kek anyone ever seen Network?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc&pp=ygUfbmV0d29yayBtb3ZpZSBuZWQgYmVhdHR5IHNwZWVjaA%3D%3D
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>>545913925
He literally has no idea what he’s talking about
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>>545913925
Meanwhile he won't even let you browse his shitty website without handing over a few dollars worth of data
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>>545914042
>How do you control something that smart
I don’t think you realize what you stepped into. If you threaten to replace white people they will turn to Skynet
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>>545913925
Why would I listen to a word the world's most retarded retard says? Elon, kill yourself.
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Keep giving billions in contracts and public money to that drug addict scammer.
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>>545913925
Can we fit 8 billion castles on the planet?
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>>545913925
It takes a special kind of retard to believe that people who never gave it away and looked for every way to rob you blind and take power from you are suddenly and enthusiastically about to give it all away for nothing. That's the kind of thing they would do while walking you into a slaughterhouse.
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>>545916317
So we are going bankrupt. I've yet to see a robot do anything useful in the real world..Sure in a factory they can weld and put shit together, but i want to see a team of robots pour a concrete slab.
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>>545920026
You have to go to China to see the bleeding edge in automatization. All thanks to government direct control, regulation and implication into the companies who are deploying it (no private shareholder interests over China interests) China even created a 2030 plan going on named: Five-Year Development Plan for the Connected Intelligent New Energy Vehicle Industry (15th Five-Year Plan aproved in March 14 2026).

>> Massive autonomy in China is concentrated in closed industrial clusters (such as the automated ports of Shanghai, Qingdao, and Tianjin) and in the vast open-pit mines of regions like Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang. In these specific areas, the percentage of autonomously driven trucks approaches 80% or even 100% of local operations.

But, remember... communism doesnt work cope
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>>545918283
UBi is perfectly sustainable provided the alleged productivity gains that AI is supposed to bring materialize

This is not the final form of the 'machine state'
The Robotics part is yet to kick in.
Everything depends on how effective this Robotics phase will become
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>>545914046
No one cares what a subhuman jeetoid thinks on anything
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>>545913925
your soul wont be transferable as of now. we must study higher dimensions more.
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>>545913925
>download a human brain into a optimus robot.. is it subscription .
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>>545913925
this guy is such a fucking disturbance to society he needs to get murdered.
yes, his plan is to "upload" humans into ram.
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>>545913925
we would we need money if "SI" existed?
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These tech evangelists are high on their own supply.
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>>545913925
Lolol Elon and Trump are mid wit marketers. Its AI and its a gaslight bot. Nothing more.
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>>545913925
i can never trust him because i saw his elden ring build and bot diablo/poe. bruh
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>>545913925
How exactly does human memory work with an eternal lifespan?
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>>545913925
how the fuck is AI going to build a castle? KEK also 'wish' this nigga is delusional and thinks AI is a genie. In fact we should tell muslims ai is jinn's so they attack data centers KEK
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>>545913925
Hes not escaping hell. A robot who repeats your retarded opinions is not you.
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>>545913925
Elon invented the steam engine and the bicycle and the combustion engine. Listen to him. He foounded IBM.
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>>545913925
It wouldn't work, your soul wouldn't transfer, the reason you are bound to your soul is because the Neurons in the brain are never replaced.
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>>545922204
Just like it works now. We won't remember everything and everybody
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>>545913925
>JUST IMAGINE
fuck this snake oil nigger
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>>545913925
No qualia. Its just mimicry. You die during the transfer and a mathematical similar copy resume. Its not eternal life.
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>>545913925
did he say eternal life or did he really say "etewnal"
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>>545914024
Free ponies and ice cream for everyone if you give me more money!!
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>>545913925
If we can upload consciousness to something then we need to seriously redefine personhood for the law before dying means becoming a permanent and copied slave.
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>>545915878
>Because such a citizen without memory or cognition
>Will be of little use to them
then why are they importing endless uber jeets? who meet your afforementioned criteria
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>>545913925
This world is hell. Why would I want to be here longer?
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>>545913925
Eternal nightmare
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>>545922428
he said etewnal for legal purposes
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>>545913925
You seriously can't see where this is headed, can you?
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>>545922447
It won't happen, so it's all naval gazing.
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These people have created a quasi religion where consciousness is king and progress is imperative.
Its not even about science.
Pure consciousness however is not a value in itself and this statement is correct for both religious and atheist people.
These people dream about eternity and godhood but they will never achieve it
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>>545913925
I'm actually hoping for this kind of stuff because some radical shakeup is the only way I can see how we move on from this constant state of decline, and I really don't want to live another 50 years watching everything get progressively worse.
I don't have high hopes though. That kind of shit will take time - not just in the sense that it has to be developed and brought to a state where it works fine and is available to the average guy, but also the whole legal process around it which will add another decade or two to the timeline. Just look at how fucking long self-driving cars are taking despite the technology having been available on a workable level for quite a while now.

Best I'll probably see is them fixing very specific genetic defects that are down to a single gene and that's about it, the rest will only happen after I'm already dead.
Which is quite depressing for me personally, even if a lot of other people probably see it as a cyber-dystopian hellscape they'd be happy to miss out on.
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>>545913925
Says who? The guy who was supposed to be on Mars now?
Nothing of all that will happen. No humans on Mars, no "superintelligence", no universal high income.
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>>545922774
All of that stuff is hokum.
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>>545913925
Nigger can't even stop amnesty. He's useless and without power.
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>>545922595
I look at myself in the mirror and I know its me. I look at people on the street and they act like they are not even aware. They all seem to just do.
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>>545922809
You just have a misanthropic bias because you have failed at a bunch of things while never realizing a win was coming.
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>>545914851
Imagine being mad enough that Epstein won't let you on his island that you resort to taking ketamine and molesting that little faggot.
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>>545923026
Trump supporters are such doomers. It’s okay bro. You’ll reap the benefits when the water level rises, just like everyone else. We voted correctly and the future is bright
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blah blah blah dont fucking care give me some fucking hammers of various sizes and varieties to smash shit with
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>>545913925
Elon is a fucking retard
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>>545915512
Doubt. The American people wants his head. I think he might be tossed under the buss pretty soon.
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>>545923202
Why are you bringing up Trump supporters?
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>>545914046
UBI is a meme and will never work. Pension system is UBI light and it causes massive problems and unimaginable debt. The only thing UBI will cause is unlimited inflation.
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>>545914046
Imagine being a poo lmao
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Make Elon Retreat to New Zealand
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>>545923233
Yes, and a bad human being. Many people have died because of him.



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