CCFR court case is LIVE at the Supreme Court of Canada!https://www.scc-csc.ca/cases-dossiers/hearings-audiences/live-endirect/
>What's the court case about?The government's gun bans by Order In Council (OIC), which is Canada's equivalent to an American Executive Order.>Why?Because of the violating of its own regulations (re: registration certificates for AR-15's being "cancelled" without going through its legal requirements), the overbroad term "variant" of banned firearms banning other firearms that may not necessarily share any functional characteristics, the use of the Firearm Reference Table (FRT) as a legal document even though it is not supposed to be one and the concept of Canadians having property rights as a whole.Whether you are a gun owner or not, if you are Canadian, this WILL affect you.
Reminder that Rod the fraud didn’t want to take it to the Supreme Court and wanted to pocket the donation money until he started getting threats of donations getting cut
>>545923385>>545923414He’s smart. Now the Canadian Supreme Court gets to both ban widely owned firearms AND publicly declare that they can make whatever rulings they want counter to plain language legal requirements. Good luck but expect the worst.
>>545923414The CCFR is literally the only gun rights org that pushed it all the way to the SCC. Where the FUCK were the NFA and CSSA?The question was whether the CCFR had the funds to make it all the way to the SCC. This lawsuit has literally cost multiple millions of dollars.
>>545922969If you are not willing to kill to defend your rights then they aren't rights, they are privileges that can be taken away at any time.Property "rights", speech "rights", gun "rights", etc.
>>545923497The point of doing this is to have CERTAINTY. If the SCC rules that Canadians, as the Federal Court of Appeals stated, "do not have a right to procedural fairness", then all bets are off.
>>545923635>as the Federal Court of Appeals stated, "do not have a right to procedural fairness"Can you expand on this? Unless that particular court of appeals was a bunch of chinkjeets in Vancouver or Toronto, I’d say this is already bad enough that I wouldn’t expect the SC to do much better.
>>545922969SAAAARS HOW CAN SHE AR15?
>>545922969>CanadaWho cares, fuck off
>>545923744The Federal Appeals Court basically said that the government can do whatever it wants and it doesn't matter if it breaks its own laws to do it because they're the government and we're all supposed to just accept it.Very few cases actually get to the SCC, even after making the request. They could have just left it as is and refused to take on the case, so there's SOME cause to be optimistic.>>545923888This fatass even admitted on a recording (when he was unaware he was being recorded) that it was all just to buy votes in Quebec (The gun control lobbyists are mostly concentrated here). Total fucking buffoon.
>>545922969i weep for you guys on /cangen/frt has a different meaning down here
>>545923506They were pressured by donors. Rod and Tracy wanted to use the donation money to “network” in Florida
In the U.S no gun legislation passes without the blessing of the NRA.The NRA goes bankrupt and now the courts time and time again start loosening gun restrictions. Funny how that worked.GOA or GTFO.Gun grabbers tongue my anus
>>545923963You don't think having a communist dictatorship along your Northern border, the longest land border on Earth, especially a mostly undefended one, would have any effect on your country?Retard.
>Anti-gunner currently speaking>Bump stocks and large capacity magazines, both of which are ALREADY BANNED is brought up:|
Good luck leafs, but knowing how gay your government is I don't have much hope
>MUH MILITARY STYLE!!!The most common hunting firearms in Canada are all former military firearms and descendants thereof.
>>545924248How come we dont ban muskets. Those are obviously a tool created for war and nothing else, but I don't even need a PAL to load up on blackpowder.
>Judicial review from model to model that were bannedYou can't do this without being arrested for owning that model of now illegal firearm...
Bump
>She says these bans don't interfere with hunting, sports shooting or use of guns as a tool for things like farming/ranchingI HATE THIS CUNT SO FUCKING MUCH
>She brings up the exemption for Aboriginals to hunt with banned guns right after stating that these guns aren't used for hunting
This is legitimately painful to listen to.
Does anybody seriously have any hope these baseless, "it's black and scary" laws will get repealed? Canadians are retarded tax cattle and the government knows it. Their response to questioning the point or legality of the laws could just be to fart as hard as they could and the urbanite niggers would clap and cheer.
>>545925353>>545926231>>545925078>>545926516Best hope is grandfathered for current owners.But I don't hope anymore.
>>545923967You might not like the sound of it, but it is all true. The fed gov do not have the obligation to follow its own laws and policies, for wether or not these are to be enforced is at the behest of the federal government itself, whom still act as representative of the crown authority in the eye of the law, so they could just goes "lol nope we wont prosecute ourselves" and there is literally no legal recourse because the gov decide it so. And they infringed no law since they wont enforce them, so how can you break a law if you arent under its effects?. Aint that fucking convenient?Welcome to Canada, the true first post-national state, where presumption of innocence is nonexistent and peoples have no fucking ideas how dystopian our legal system is. Its a banana republic masquerading as a first world nation.
>>545926828Subject to this ruling though, no? If your SC rules against your government they’re creating a judicial doctrine not dissimilar from the one in Marbury v Madison.
>>545927057Strictly speaking, what he says actually occurred already with the abolition of the long gun registry.The government violated its own laws on destroying the data and then violated privacy laws by transferring the data to Quebec for the creation of a provincial long gun registry. Nobody ever charged because they wrote into the law that, even though it was illegal to do so, it wasn't actually illegal because they wrote in the law it wasn't illegal. Convenient, indeed.
>>545926757The best hope is gun owners ignore the jews and keep all their rightful property oh and of course mass killing RCMP niggers
>She now claims that the reason that "modern" guns (lmao, 70 years old) are to be banned is because they don't overheat as quickly and it's totally not because of aesthetics
>>545927395i heard it, what the fuck
>>545927484It's just ass-pull after ass-pull with her
>>545922969>>545923385Why are you boys still playing your gov's jewish games?
>>545922969GUN CONTROL USA
>>545922969GUN TRAINING USA
>>545922969GUN SHOOTING USA
By the way, Canadian firearm law is so shit at describing variants of guns that the Dragunov is listed as a "variant" of the AK47.
>The firearm owner should know it's a "variant" because it's semi-auto!
>>545928199Well they are both Russian with typically wood finishes, duh
>>545928332The Mossberg Plinkster with a plastic shell that makes it KINDA SORTA look like an AK if you're really far away and squinting was ruled a "variant" of the AK. That's a straight-blowback .22!
>>545928199If only you knew how bad it is, its probably one of the easiest laws to circumvent if you have some legal knowhow. Like the obny way you could get caught is if you are an absolute retard and start reselling them.
Court adjourned until tomorrow for the rest of the hearing.
The last lady who spoke also said "If you rule against us, please give us a 12 month suspension of the ruling so we can pass laws to fix it".
>>545926757Your greatest hope lies within you and that you have agency and control over your own actions. Ask yourself what a free man would do when someone tries to enslave them? These people are comfortably putting the boot down on us all. They're not going to let us up just because we ask nicely and we played fair. Their rules are literally in place to maintain their monopoly over your rights. They turn said rights into privilidges that they have control over with liscences and paperwork that effectively makes is so it is a luxury for the rich and not the common man. Wake up to the fact that these people are our enemies and they make it known as such any time they are in private with one another. What is more important? Freedom? Happiness? Or your life? I ask these questions mainly because these are questions we're all going to have to get comfortable asking and the sooner the better seeing as how AI, data centers and drone warfare are already on the table of tools for oppression.
>>545922969You're gonna lose, maple migger.
>>545922969can someone please tell me why does the side of FIGHT THE POWA wants to give away the greatest power of them all? the last solution? the final arbiter?
>>545928775Skipping the entire afternoon? Lazy ass court
>>545929357To be fair, listening to this shit all day would drive me nuts.
>>545922969It's not being webcast?
>>545931215It was shown live. Runkle will do a video on it soon if you missed it
>>545932696I think they are archiving it, so I'll look for it later.
>>545922969>>545923385nothingburger
>>545923385Will the outcome of this case affect the handgun ban? That shit was completely insane.
>>545928993>>545932996Sar
>>545934070>Will the outcome of this case affect the handgun ban?Probably not. Tyranny doesn't have a good record of relinquishing control.