A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college male working a minimum wage job back in the 90’s. Now it’s premium ultra luxury. Who’s responsible for this? Is this not economic genocide? Are we destined to live like dalits?
>>545961117now it's a 2 class system. get used to it goy
>>545961117No idea but the economy is so shit I'm slowly building equity into my truck. Now if I could hold onto my shit job, I'd probably be set to retire in some third world country if I wanted to.
>>545961117Crypto bankrupted 99% us those Jews in Jew York just have so much liquidity they can manipulate every market known to man
>>545961117jewsThe more you don't TKD the more shitty things will get, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out now
>>545961117Germans pandered to chink interests, set up shop in china, and then got their car making insights stolen and thrown out of the chinese market. Thus to all who fail to recognize the chink menace
>>545961117Imagine being the retard driving a sedan
>>545961117A new M3 has never been a minimum wage car, not even in the 90s. Wtf are you smoking? It’s always been an upper-middle-class car.
>>545961117>College age >BMW>Affording a M3There was never a time a Collage age kid could afford a M3. They got the base 3 series at best, their boss got the M3.
>>545961117Your fundamental point about our purchasing power having deteriorated is correct.But your example of basic wagies driving model m beemers is fucking retarded.Anyways, it’s the Jews.
>>545961117you could buy 5 Honda R series for that price
>>545961445And you drive?
>>545961117>A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college male working a minimum wage job back in the 90’swhat kind of revisionist bullshit is this?
>>545961117K-shaped economy
>>545961117>A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college male working a minimum wage job back in the 90’s.No the fuck it wasn't disinfo kike. M3s in the 90s were in the $35k-$45k range depending on configuration. Federal minimum wage earnings back then was like $8k a year. You guys love your numbers so I'll let you do the math on that.
>>5459611174-door M3? In... Whatever color that is?...for more than I make in a year?Why?!?$150k is insane for a sedan. It's crazy for an Escalade. How the hell are they gonna sell any?
>>545961747Octavia combi. It's cheap, reliable and spacious. A sedan won't even fit some 2m wood
>>545961825Some retard whose father was still in his grandfather's balls in the 80's wrote that.BMW was always a luxury brand
>>545961117Imagine buying eurotrash.
>>545961117No it wasn't. You had a a mitsubishi evo, or an s2000, or a nice s13 if you were a guy in your 20s in the 90s. If you were a rich kid, you had a supra. The rich kid's dad had the M3 parked next to his porsche. The M3 was a car for 40 year old executives.
>>545962044Just get a liftback. Best of both worlds. Station wagons are good too though.
>>545962197Bro, I love america, I really do, but your cars and luxury have about as much in common as Jews and honesty. If your idea of a luxurious car is an entire cows worth of leather per seat and tolerances between fittings you can shove your fist into, that's not luxury.
>>545961117OP is quintessentially Indian
Imaigne still getting excited abour cars when you're over 18.
Look at the seething poortards that can’t afford anything but the shitty red Toyota Corolla you valeting at the clubs where you watch other people buy drinks and consume. hey at least you weren’t the poor fuck that went to the bars on sunset blvd and got off by the bus. It gives off the poor look you are achieving
>>545962360brown people have utterly destroyed the reputation and prestige of BMW. The new cars are ugly and have plastic engines as well. Simply disgusting
>>545962361No 18 year old can afford a car and I'm buying it to enjoy it
>>545962332European cars fall apart just as easily as American cars do, they just cost more to fix and they're designed by homosexuals.
>>545961117>A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college maleNo. It wasn't. Stop being retarded. -t oldfag
>>545962559No sensible person wants to drive a redneck wife beater-mobile.
>>545962559Perhaps new ones do, but you're a retard if you buy a new car in 2026.
>current year>BMV
>>545962002>$150k is insane for a sedan. It's crazy for an Escalade. How the hell are they gonna sell any?That's beyond Z06 money right there and pushing into ZR1 territory. I don't know why someone would get a 6-cylinder 4-door sedan that costs that much when they can get a mid-engine 2-door convertible with a V8.
stop buying european carsthey're just overpriced outdated shit resting on their laurels
>>545961117You could have been not a faggot and buy a capable off road all weather vehicle
>>545961117As soon as you drive a new car off the lot its value drops off by 25-30%. You expect snapback hat wearing wiggers will know or care about that? Please.
>>545962698What if you have two kids and a wife, and still wanna go fast? People forget that M series cars are high performance models.
>>545962510Indians and spics and white trash have ruined every luxury german brand
>>545962361Must be nice, there are loads of adults who tinker with cars as a hobby, it sounds comfy as fuck.I wish I knew a bit about cars, I'd buy a cheap old Volvo.
>>545962639>redneck wife beater mobile
>>545962639Must be a lot of no sense swedes though, there are so many people here fixing up American cars. Or are you talking about specific ones.Wait why so many Swedes online at 6am
>>545962862many such cases with "luxury" items
>>545962917To be fair that car looks ugly as sin
>>545961117Worse is that BMW’s next gen cars all have standard interiors designed to minimize costs. A 7 series now has the same interior as the 3 series except with an added screen for the passenger. And virtually all controls for the car are on the screen including air vents and even sport/economy modes for the car. Completely soulless.
>>545962952There ain't no affordable european car that looks better. Besides, the point was you said all american cars are redneck wife beater mobiles, when youre clearly just retarded
>>545962860>go fast>have kidsIt's a status symbol and no more. No one who isn't a nigger is going to be racing around streets at 80MPH and the turn it up to 150MPH on a motorway (freeway). So unless they race on tracks as well (why not simply buy a track car solely for that) then it's for image only.
>>545963007This
>>545962917>doesnt post the blackwing mogger
>>545962998That wasn't me Mr retarded
>>545961117Economy and car market is so bad it’s got me nigger maxing.
>>545963030That's not the point in my post. There are plenty of better american cars than what I posted but that does indeed look like a wife beater car
>>545963007I'm sorry you never got to experience the joy of being driven fast in your dad's car as a kid. I really am.
>>545962932They are called white trash "raggare" for good reason though. This is why American brands have shit reputation here.
>>545962952and this doesn't?
>>545963031You probably just turned airplane mode on and then off again, swede
>>545961467Hi, actual upper middle class oldfag here. Family income around 300k. Most of us don’t actually waste money on $100k cars. It’s like flushing it down the toilet. We prefer to fly under the radar. My family has 2 subarus. If you are a young person in an expensive car we see a giant neon “debt” sign over your head and you look poor to us. We called it “nigga rich” when I was a kid.
>>545961117>A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college male working a minimum wage job back in the 90’s>Minimum wageNo,Maybe something like a Mazda 3 would be
>>545963084she stays with him because he drives a blackwing
>>545963093Again, youre all retarded then
What's even the point in BMW and Mercedes now? You can see on Youtube or Insta guys showing how the build quality of now compared to years ago has gone down the toilet for same base models. Thin metal replaced with plastic, wood replaced with plastic, shitty touch-screens larping as "high tech" when they're actually to save on costs. Faux leather where there used to be real leather, I imagine the internals are even more "cheaped out" on.One guy summed it up best as years ago you expected the German cars were made by fastidious, detail oriented Germans and now they simply aren't but the companies are coasting on the inertia of when they *were* doing that. Now whats the point.You may as well get a 20 year old one, replace the perishable parts that need replacing and add a new stereo.
>>545963153Tru
>>545963159They don't have the same context over there. To us these are just basic mom cars to them these are albanian trophy trucks
>>545961117>M3>not a Mazda 3That is your mistake. The Mazda 3 is the perfect vehicle. You can get it at an affordable price and it's very efficient in all sorts of road conditions. Worried about connectivity? New Mazda 3's come with every integration you can ask for. You don't need to pay a luxury price for a luxury car anymore. Give the Mazda 3 a test drive at your local Mazda dealership and see for yourself what it means to Zoom.
>>545961117BMW are cheap as hell in Deutschland pooper.They are expensive in the US because of tariffs. Not even Trump tariffs.
>>545963094Yes, yes it does. I don't like BMWs much, but the electrical ones are terrible.I'd probably get another Octavia if I needed a new new car. But I also get that tastes vary a lot; I don't know what the euro market is doing with these weird ass electrical cars.I never claimed our cars look good mind you; I care more about the practical use of them myself.I have a 10 year old Octavia III Combi, and so far only the front suspension had to be changed; I'ts super comfy efficient and allows to bring most large items from the hardware store; trailer hook for other stuff.Not as nice looking though predates the black accents.
>>545963201Apparently
>>545963087>flagno one in Israel is driving at 80mphg and 150mph, so cut out the rhetoric kike. What would be more exciting for a kid in Israel are a few missiles landing close by and then seeing some paragliders.
>>545963251Now THAT is fucking ugly. Anyway, you can easily buy cheap cars here that do exactly what you need them to do, and they'll probablt start having issues around 14 years old or so, other than basic maintenance shit
>>545963309Like I said, taste varies.I like the Octavia because it doesn't have too many details.But there's probably a reason why american cars have a typical look; and european cars have a typical look. Different target audience we don't have to like the same things.
My dad had an M3. Not rich.
>>545963370holy shit that's disgusting what are the germans doing hahahaha.Most people in europe also buy cars on a loan; everyone can own a car like that if they really want to and have a job.But is your dad 18 years old like OP claimed?
>>545963208You joke but one of the richest people I knew (not mega rich, think like 30 million nw) drove the same mazda 6 for like 10 years.
>>545963358I understand this. Im more responding to the general european belief that american cars fall apart after 4 years, although I dont understand how any European (or american for that matter) could actually like the look of the most typical car shape in Europe (pic)
>>545963185I think most of the problem is that they know they are basically to be scrapped earlier than they would normally be. It is like smartphones, they don't' really need to last 10years because they are replaced after a few years. The EU have set a date for all new vehicles to be zero emission and that means even no hybrids either. So they can see the end and the German carmakers did try to get the phasing out of ICE vehicles extended. As for quality they are up against the chinks who can now match with that quality but a much cheaper cost. The idea of buying a BMW or Merc due to quality or performance doesn't really work when it's an electric. And that also applies to ICE vehicles because the mindset means they both look and feel the same and they are priced similar.
>>545963159>>545962917Those aren't nice vehicles.The Cadillacs were comfy when they were build like boats, with big-block V-8s, and had plush seats. Plagued with electrical problems and gimmicky engines that weren't time-tested from the mid-80s onward.Jeeps outside of the Wranglers and pre-2000 Cherokees are junk.All vehicles are Fisher-Price quality iSlop now, but you could have at least shown a decked-out old Ford Taurus or Chevy Malibu as examples of quality and comfort in older American vehicles.
>>545961439Fuck, I hate the grills of modern BMWs.
>>545961117german cars are exclusively for shitskins now. get a Japanese machine or die.
>>545963159That looks like shit. SUVs are subhuman bait.
>>545963540These vehicles are fine and last plenty long. >niceIs subjective. Any modern american car will last at least 10 years before needing something major. >jeeps outside of wranglers Also objectively wrong. Ive had my gc for 13 years and had no problems, not even with the transmission. Also, my 2001 cherokee is still kicking it
>>545963442Not surprising to me. They do make good cars, and I figure a lot of rich people don't particularly care for having the flashiest car.
>>545961117The M3 line starts at like 48k for the M330, the M3 is 80k150k is the M3 Competition, with a metallic finish, full marino leather, carbon fiber trim, the Executive and Carbon package upgrades, Parking and Driving assistance packages, SensaTec Dashboard, M Shadowline lights, M Carbon exterior package, 20/21" M Cross-spoke Jet Black Matte 1000M Wheels w/ Staggered Performance Tires,BMW M Performance Front Air Inlets in Carbon Fiber, BMW M Performance Front Attachment in Carbon Fiber, BMW M Performance Rear Deck Spoiler in Carbon Fiber, BMW M Performance Rear Winglets in Carbon Fiber. BMW M Performance Side Air Breather Grilles in Carbon Fiber. BMW Advanced Car Eye 3.0 Pro (ACE). M Performance Titanium Exhaust with Quad Black Tips and Diffuser in Carbon Fiber. + BMW ultimate care 4 insurance. And even with all of that it comes out to 148k
>>545963629>prefers these gay vehiclesYep, youre a SwedeAlso, again because youre retarded, the point in those cars was to show your nigger loving ass that the "american redneck mobiles" trope is just pure hate for the sake of hate.And the GC looks good; youre just a FAG
>>545963650My Mazda 3 from 2006 was the best car ive owned. Maybe it was a 2007. I dont remember
>>545961117I have never seen a BMW driver change lanes on a highway. It doesn't matter which lane they are in. They just hover inches behind the car in front of them...
>>545963495Kek. It is practical in the city. But I drove a VW UP for a while it was pretty terrible
>>545963669Yes a Fiat is geniunely less nigger than a Jeep SUV that floats like a boat on the roads. Atleast the Fiat is a sensible car.
>>545963669Doubt he's a swede SUVs are very popular in western Europe, Sweden included
it takes very little imagination to design a car interior now. just gut everything out, put an iPad in it, and some will like it more than before.
>>545961117>150k for a fucking M3lmao no wonder these german makers are all losing badly against the chinks
>>545963740Sadly that's true despite people exclusively using them as city commuter cars. SUVs are for harsh terrain. Not cities with excellent road conditions. But Karen needs to feel safe knowing that if she ran over some kid, her own brat offspring would be safe in the car. SUVs are subhuman.
>>545963840I don't disagree; they're probably comfy if you have a poor back though.They're large but barely fit any cargo.
>>545961117>A M3 used to be achievable semi-luxury for 20 something post college male working a minimum wage job back in the 90’s. Now it’s premium ultra luxury.This isn't really true, especially the minimum wage part, but it was pretty common to see a college(or even high school) kid whose parents wanted to flex driving one. M3 series also starts at 62k and that's pretty much in line with what it was back then in comparison to other cars and models.
Do you guys ever wonder about how having a large throbbing member jn your mouth is like? I dont but I was wondering if anyone else wondered that
>>545963901>They're large but barely fit any cargo.Exactly. They're hugely inefficient and retarded constructions. Station wagons are simply superior cars. Karen 35 does not have a bad back. She just loves driving knowing any accident she causes won't kill her but the other driver instead.
OP is a bot. This thread is meant to waste your time. In 1995 an M3 was more than 80000 DM and a good yearly brutto income for a skilled blue collar worker like an electrician was maybe 50000 DM in the west BRD.
>>545963793Hi, I'm the head of Ford's ensloppification department and I've been watching this thread looking for idead to keep up with Tesla Motors.That car interior looks like pure AIDSYou're hired!
>>545961117>Who’s responsible for this?The federal reserve.
>>545963045I drive this but the scat because they are easy to work on and I already have a truck. Brownmaxxing is the only way to not get targeted.
I owned a merc for a while. Was at the garage every 2 months. Went jap and never looked back.
>>545964330>west BRDIsn't that redundant? Also doesn't your government throw a shitfit when people say BRD? Something about it putting them on equal footing with the DDR or something?
