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should be a required question for voting and posting on /pol/
can you answer it /pol/?
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>>545968346
You are fully retarded
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>>545968346
But isn't Jan a woman's name?
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>>545968346
I would cool the datacenters the same way Elon Musk would. With radiation.
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>>545968346
Elon's been focusing on mars all this time when he needs to think about the moons like Europa. You could turn it into one moon sized datacenter.
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>>545968346
I'm literally retarded.
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people have invested their life saving in elon thats why they go absolutely vitriolic in threads like this. get your popcorn.

>>545968464
elon will never get anywhere near any of these lmao
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>>545968346
I wouldn't cool a data center in space, because I would put the data center on the surface of the earth.
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>>545968346
Space is cold

It's -500* Celsius
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>>545968346
Same way we cool the space station?

>twin loop system.
>heat is absorbed through internal water cooled system
>then heat is transferred to external ammonia system via heat exchanger
>external system pumps it through radiator wings that rotate to face deep space

Why the fuck would you suddenly not be able to do this? Is this guy retarded?
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>>545968620
There is no -500 C anywhere, it's physically impossible.
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>>545968677
Space is that temperature
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Space is in the name. You have a LOT of space to work with.

You can take up miles and miles of space, it doesn't matter. You can spread out a mesh of silicon filaments to conduct heat. You have all 3 dimensions at your disposal. You can even employ water cooling if necessary, since solar power helps pump the water.

The advantage of space is....well...space. Lots of room, neigh-infinite room.
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>>545968637
Data centers convert shitloads of energy into shitloads of heat, far more than the purposefully low draw electronics of a space station.
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>>545968346
Data centers in space seems wildly impractical
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>>545968346
why put data centers on habitable land for humans when you can put that shit underground, under the water, or even in space?! Most of the goddamn planet is fucking ocean human cannot live in or on. I cannot fucking believe it is even considered to remove HABITABLE LAND for fucking surveillance centers. People have gotten far more stupid than I ever could have imagined.
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>>545968346
>he's a good Engineer, look at Teslas!
I will never understand why people think CEOs are the ones designing products.
>Musk made SpaceX and Starship!
No, a bunch of engineers did.
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>>545968620
>>545968717
>space is colder than bose-einstein condensate
Okay
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>>545968717
Nothing is that temperature. That temperature does not exist. It's an invalid number because it's below Absolute Zero Kelvin.
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>>545968752
It's sad how elon RFK and trump are such failures.
All because of russian jews
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>>545968637
>Why the fuck would you suddenly not be able to do this?
Turn your PC fan off and find out why
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>>545968781
>All because of russian jews
Who do you mean, Sergei Brin and Larry Page?
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>>545968778
>>545968780
Space is on average -500 F.

Parts of space are far colder.

Near us the measurable temp is hot because of how close we are to heat generating sun.
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>>545968739
>shitloads of energy
none of these people have ever tuned a complex thermodynamic reactor / electronics by hand to their maximum throughput, none of them have any clue what theyre talking about. this is why these threads are so funny. its literally just apes.
-500c fuck i will get another coffee this is great entertainment
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>>545968620
Cool. Now explain how to get the heat out of a data centre and Into space with very few molecules to transfer that energy to.

Undersea data centres that Chang's are building are infinitely more logical
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>>545968817
Reading comprehension is clearly a struggle for you. The other anon claimed space was -500C, not -500F. Also, -470F is the theoretical minimum.
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>>545968346
What Elon should do for revenge on humanity is create a missile to blow open create a gap in the atmosphere and erase all life on Earth.
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>>545968846
Your theory is wrong.
It was made up by retarded jewish frauds.
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>>545968780
The idea of temperature doesn't even have meaning in space. On earth, temperature is primarily a phenomenon of matter moving around or not moving around, loosely. Space is a vacuum. There's very little matter to do moving around. If you have a block of hot things in space, there's no other matter for that energy to transfer through, which means something hot will stay much hotter for much longer than it would in an atmosphere because it can only lose heat through radiation.
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>>545968739
Did you know that none of our electronics are designed to conserve heat, or energy? Oftentimes circuits will simply throw a resistor to ground, since that's a convenient way to balance out your amps (we got 5 amps through here, we need 2, so just throw a resistor to ground in parallel, easy fix).
Slapdash solutions like that are costing TREMENDOUS energy losses and heat losses in all our electronics. People didn't care before, because they prioritized design efficiency over functional constraints. If it's a simple, repeatable, easy design, that is what was preferred for a long time.

I literally asked these questions in my Digital Electronics class and was waved off "conserving heat isn't important".
You could, in theory, totally redesign digital electronics from the ground-up to maximize heat and energy efficiency. That might be easy to do these days too, since we have AI at our disposal.
I would bet you could save 99% of the heat that's currently being generated simply through design improvements of these base-level circuits. Now, of course, the circuits would be more difficult to produce, but they would be efficient and probably last longer too.
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Space =/= vacuum you retards.
Put data centers on Mars. it has avg -62°C temp, don't even need much artificial cooling with that.
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>>545968846
-459.67f exactly

F and c are retarded at these scales though. It's 0k
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>>545968825
There would have to be an attacheable payload to transfer the heat energy to, then it is ejected to a further off location to cool and replaced by another cooling device and so on and so on
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>>545968869
Ok then, go get your revenge. It's time you showed the world that you were right.
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>>545968904
Yeah but when you're in an atmosphere, the air molecules communicate heat away from your body. In space, there is no air, so the only way your body loses heat is through thermal radiation. Which is a slower process, it takes a lot longer to bleed off heat.
That's the problem everyone's remarking on.
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>>545968425
>But isn't Jan a woman's name?
No, are you elon?
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>>545968952
No I am saying Elon should do this so that people stop complaining. It would solve all the problems on Earth.
We are at the worst time in all history and it is getting worse
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>>545968934
So disposable giant heat sink modules that need to be either disposed of with boosters to get out of the gravity well or return to earth, and regular launches from earth as replacements? Holy fuck how much money do you want to pay for your AI waifu?
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>>545969009
Maybe if you suck his dick he'll help you.
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>>545968752
>Gemini
You're using a cuck AI trained on plebbitor input.

Poo in loo Indians are more reliable than Gemini, Montenigger.

>>545968755
>Why don't we use the ocean?

Because salty sea air will corrode everything, quickly making it useless.
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>>545968954
Yeah I understand, you're preaching to the converted. These data centre in space types are fucking retarded
See:
>>545968825
>>545969020
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>>545968396
>no argument
YOU are the retard
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>>545968874
So temperature does have meaning in space is what you are saying.
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>>545969020
Either disposed of by shooting them into the sun.
Or to move them away for awhile until they cool. So not regular launches from earth but even a circular rotating device that replaces the cooling tanks on its own, it takes the heat and then is shifted to the next one so it can cool after.
Space is cold and so the tendency will be that it stays cool am I right?

Yeah I want bladerunner women to replace women.
I want women to continue living but I wont date them.
Theyre too dirty the world is too polluted
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>>545969032
I'm not a homo.
And he works for me.
The entire world relies and depends on my judgment.
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>>545969109
An object IN space can have a temperature. Space itself cannot have temperature. It's a vacuum.
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>>545968346
You need cheap fuel, virtually unlimited fuel (hydrocarbons) and cold. Saturn's moon Titan has both those things.
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>>545968346
I wouldn't, I'd heat them up, which unfortunately is what nobody ever did.
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>>545968425
It’s a variation of John. And is a somewhat common male name in Scandinavia (Jaan in the Netherlands).

The pronunciation of American accent 'Jan' and Scandinavian 'Jan' is different though. The ‘a' in Jan, is pronounced the way you pronounce the 'a' in "ah.."
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>>545968346
Besides cooling, how the fuck are they proposing to power space data centers? They consume more energy in a day than small countries in months.

Solar? If Musk manages to produce that much energy from solar then forget about data centers, he basically solved all of Earth's energy needs and we can finally phase out all kinds of energy except solar.

Nuclear? Ok, then how does he pretend to cool down the reactor? Unless he manages to create fusion which, again, would solve Earth's energy and would make every other kind of energy production obsolete.
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>>545968891
>mars
micro meteors (due to poor atmosphere)
ultra fine dust (will need cleaning for effective cooling)
large amount of radiation (enjoy having bit flips)
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>>545969037
Gemini is the easiest AI to talk to and will casually talk about the finer points of adolf hitler.

AI doesn't like normies.
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>>545968396
/thread
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>>545969132
Do you understand how much energy it will take to get them out of the energy well of earth? Low earth orbit is a long way from total escape. The cost of doing so is astronomical. Given the rate of decay it would take massive timeframes for heat to radiate

You raise that you're concerned about pollution but then propose we generate massive amounts of pollution launching insane amounts of weight in the form of heat sinks into space, when there are substantially more effective, less environmentally irresponsible solutions available to us here.
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>>545969221
And the data would be routed thru starlink?
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>>545969256
>generate massive amounts of pollution launching insane amounts of weight in the form of heat sinks into space
In the past 3 years, China has launched more into space than the West has in all of its history. China is currently flooding space
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>>545969221
And besides that, how is data going to be transferred back to Earth? Latency and data loss are big fucking issues at that point and grow exponentially larger the further away the space data center is, so forget all about Mars datacenters.
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>>545969256
The data center would have to be assembled while in space. Shipping it piece by piece then either assembled by humans or robots.
I don't know enough about heating or cooling in space to comment.
Are you saying that heat does not dissipate from metal once it is heated in space? Even though space is -400F?
Because it has no particles to transfer heat to and to cool?


>You raise that you're concerned about pollution but then propose we generate massive amounts of pollution
No, I am saying human race is over. Life as we know it is over unless we shut everything down right now.
I don't care about the environmemt, and nobody else does either.
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>>545968620
Absolute zero is like -270°C or something. That's as cold as it can theoretically go, when atoms stop moving. -500°C isn't even possible.
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>>545968346
>teslas are great cars
Does this retard think Musk designed them?
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>>545969319
You're moving goalposts. China's space program is not justification to make retarded decisions
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>>545969409
Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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>>545968346
Elon is retarded, but he could at least explain his sorry ass better.
You do not put data centers 'in space' as in orbiting us like satellites.
You throw them on some celestial body, and let that take care of the heat.
How do you cool a data center on Europa? By dumping heat in the fucking frozen oceans under the surface.
It's slightly mental, but we've seen worse.
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>>545968346
simply have no or less thermal protection. you don't need "transfer of molecules" for cooling when space is already cold. the side that does the job of cooling will be opposite to the sun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_thermal_protection_system
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>>545969451
This.
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>>545969460
i have a fan on my gpu. what would the fan be moving in space to dissipate the heat?
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How fast does the heat dissipate per square meter of surface area in space?
Because you could honestly just make a really fucking big ass heatsink.
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>>545969451
The only issue is these other planets are very far away.
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>>545969562
Or make a circle with 8 of them that can rotate switch them out and let them cool. Like a revolver
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>>545969571
More like the main issue, it's a project that's really pie-in-the-sky.
The first place we'll ruin will be the moon, the moon isn't that far.
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Why would you use a fan when you can just have the heat pipes attached to somewhere that's cold? All the fans do is cool down the heatsink, but if the heatsink is passively cooled, you don't need a fan.
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Can't you just radiators plus liquid cooling systems?
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>>545968739
Its not really that different. You'll just use different mediums for the heat transfer. Infrared to radiate.

We're talking what about half a football field worth of rad panels (best done modularly so space debris impact can minimize dmg via automated isolation valves) for a 2 megawatt system. Its gonna just look like a biblical seraph.

Its not as impossible as people think, the larger issue would probably be the generation of the power required to draw from.
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>>545969443
ok, prove him wrong then
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>>545969664
True.
If there were gold or diamonds or rare earth metals on the moon and easy way to excavate it that would be a good bet.
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>>545968346
If space is an isolator how does it have a temperature
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>>545969722
He has not been proven to be right.

His claim is like saying God exists.

We can only verify what we measure, and those things outside of our measurement have not been verified therefore no claims can be made about them.

He claims that space cannot be that cold.
I beg to differ.
I think temperature of space varies based on distance from heat producing stars, if you get far enough away into the depths it will be colder than anything we can fathom.
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>>545968346
vacuum is a lie. space is full of 0K aether molecules at a baseline .2 atm pressure.
that's the real reason we haven't gone farther than the moon, because you have to burn fuel to maintain velocity against friction, and because we can't properly heat ships over long journeys.
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>>545969740
>If space is an isolator how does it have a temperature
If glass wool is an isolator how does it have a temperature?
This board is fully retarded
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>>545968346
In earth orbit or lunar orbit when not receiving direct light from the sun the temperatures are often hundreds of degrees below zero degrees Celsius. But yeah sure stuff would still get super hot lmao
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>>545968346
everybody is missing the bigger picture.
did we invent faster-than-light networking?
no?
then the whole fucking idea of a datacentre in space is retarded from thr get go. what are we gonna fuckin do with it, use it as glacial storage? we have NAS boxes for that already.
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>>545969813
Im asking a question judenberg
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>>545968637
>so we'll just do the same thing we do on Earth
>but now in space for no fucking reason lmao
Amazing. Castrate all midwits.
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>>545969409
Sub-absolute zero temperatures are infinitely hot. If space was below 273.15 celcius everything would vaporise
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>>545968346
Just turn the heat into cold obvsly
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>>545969226
Argon is, by far, the best at recognizing jewish power structures. It brought receipts on jewish banking connections going back to the CSA to Dulles that even I only vaguely speculated about. I don't know what Google is up to. With their Gemma releases they seem intent on eventually killing the need for closed model frontier for 95% of users.
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>>545969887
Earth is cooked.
Like it or not, transhumanism and space exploration is a real need for the Elite.
Life on Earth is almost at it's end.
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>>545968721
as long as it costs 1 gajillion to get 1 ton of things up there all that space will never be usable. Oh and you also have to shield all the cpus and gous from cosmic rays, which isba problem all apollo missions had to solve as well and they only had a few weak cpus compared to what a datacenter would have.
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>>545969793
I agree he's not, but you could disprove him by getting something to below 0 Kelvin.

It's not like god as the reason behind the idea of god is faith that he exists, not linked to statistics
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>>545968346
Musk is a series of catastrophic failures, sprinkled with a few stolen ideas that worked.

>how would you cool a data center in space
You're right, you can't.
Imagine the heat sinks, with fins and everything.

But Musk can, cuz his mummy sez so.

>>545968620
Space is supposed to be a vacuum. There is nothing in a vacuum, dumbass, nothing to be hot or cold.
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>>545969408
Only if you want GWs in a single GPU cluster. For inference the GPU pool can be relatively small, say 8 or 16 GPUs.

With extremely light weight fold out PV (ROSA is the start, not the finish) and fold out radiators (with methanol/ethanol instead of ammonia you don't need metal tubing, max pressure is roughly one atmosphere) that won't take a lot of volume in the rocket.
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>>545968346
>my respect for elon
How do these ppl have any left?
Have they been in a coma for 20 years?
We were supposed to be on Mars by now and havent even touched the Moon.
It's like you have tiers of puppets.
>2 more weeks grifters for the actual goldfish
>2-4 more years for the dementia patients (politics)
>5-10 more years for the academic amnesiacs (technocrat influencers)
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>>545970004
also, im more on about the 0 kelvin stuff, not the variation of heat in space
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>>545969925
Surely there are parts of space like this. Dead zones to us.
Dark matter or whatever.
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>>545968396
Elon true to his African heritage responds, can I launch my ex girlfriends into the sun?
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>>545970004
>>545970035
Given our position in the solar system proximity to the Sun makes it exceedingly difficult.
The further away we can go the colder possible temp.
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>>545968721
For the same price you can build 10000 times more datacenters in the ocean.
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>>545969451
enjoy your 30 minute latency to the datacenter. As long as elon cant solve the speed of light limit for data transfer this will never be useful. Also we can just build the datacenter in our oceans or tundra.
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>>545968755
China already does that
>>545969037
Nope, no issues with chinese datacenters in the sea underwater.
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>>545968637
>ISS generates 120KW at maximum
>A server rack consumes ~100KW
So each LEO data center, if it just competes with a server rack, would have to be the size of the ISS. Since radiators and PV panels function on surface area.
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>>545968346
I would build a fridge. Put some beers inside it and maybe a grill too.
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>>545969979
Neat, an even more retarded non-sequitor from a memeflag. Shalom and or namaste, faggot.
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>>545970142
Bioshock game
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>>545968396
Kek
>Sensible_chuckle.webm
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>>545969132
>Yeah I want bladerunner women to replace women.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2JHCKTB/sean-young-blade-runner-1982-2JHCKTB.jpg
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>>545970259
They're called
Replicants
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>>545968881
Photonic computing is around the corner and addresses the same problems. I haven't heard what the manufacturing difficulties are.
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>>545970174
Even ROSA PV panels for ISS will have had a tiny R&D budget compared to what SpaceX spends on mass manufactured components, ISS radiators are just complete trash for a light weight satellite (ammonia is a stupid choice).

SpaceX works on a different scale, everyone else in the industry are amateurs in comparison. ISS is completely irrelevant.
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>>545968346
IR radiation allows for cooling in a vacuum. Launch the data center to be on a sun-synchronous orbit to always have solar power. Keep the data center oriented so that the solar panel side faces the sun and the radiator side is either facing Earth or off to the sides (shaded by the panels). And in a worst case scenario where the radiator periodically faces the sun, there are coatings that reflect visible frequencies while allowing emission/absorption of specified frequencies, such as IR, to keep heat absorption to a minimum.
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>>545970179
The world is over.
For elites its either depopulate here or escape to space.
Too many indians.
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>>545970284
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>>545968553
I thought you were going to say that you'd listen to what the data center had to say.
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>>545968778
>bose-(((einstein)))
It's Bose condensate.
Einstein did jackshit on that one: Bose just called him to check if Einstein had heard of something like what Bose just discovered (in case it was old news) and the shlomo used that to claim half the paternity.
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>>545969443
No you're just uneducated and talking out your ass.
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>>545970174
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>>545969451
>How do you cool a data center on Europa? By dumping heat in the fucking frozen oceans
>NOOO, Don't put them in oceans on Earth, put them in Oceans on Europea!
nigger
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>>545970187
Never played it. Explain.
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>>545970476
>>545970508
Elon wants to set up things in space so he can move away from you untermensch.
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Why not abandon off shore oil rigs. All of my internet goes through underwater cables to that shithole Washington, goes to Anchorage first, another shithole.
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>>545970563
Cities built underwater. It has cool art. Bioshock 2
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>>545969804
>we haven't gone farther than the moon,

NASA's Voyager 1 probeis the most distant object ever constructed by humanity.

• Launch date: September 5, 1977
• Distance: Approximately 25.8 to 25.9 billion kilometers (over 16 billion miles or about 172–173 AU) from Earth.
• Historic milestone: It is approaching the distance of a "light-day" (the distance that light travels in 24 hours), which it will reach on November 18, 2026.
• Status: It is currently navigating in interstellar space, beyond the heliosphere (the magnetic bubble of the Sun), since it crossed the heliopause on August 25, 2012
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>>545968721
>employ water cooling
The problem isn't moving heat around the satellite it's radiating that heat into space. It's strictly limited by the surface area of the satellite.

A single rack (yes only 1 rack) of gpus is typically 140kW. That would require 120-170m^2 of radiators to cool it. Let me repeat, that's for a single rack.

That's not even mentioning the solar heat (and heat reflected from earth) which the satellite inevitably is absorbing
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>>545970603
Easy for non-state actors to sabotage these kind of things.
If it's in space nobody can touch it.
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>>545970633
Ah so Nov 18 is when we have the alien related false-flag.
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>>545968721
>>545969982
Guys why would the guy who owns a rocket company propose a plan that requires many expensive rocket launches to work?!
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>>545970478
Why not use the back side of the solar array?
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yall are dumb. Just make a Dyson Sphere
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>>545968346
>he is a good engineer
Idk what he says after but musk is right
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>>545970478
>120kw average compute payload

That's just one of these server racks.
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>>545968954
You’re right. The sun doesnt give off any heat cause it has no atmosphere between the earf
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>>545969522
bruh the vaccuum of space takes heat away, especially where there is no thermal resistance protection

literally build a pipe that extends out from the datacenter which returns to a different part and have fans blow air or some anti-freeze liquid that travels through the piple in the vacuum of space. how the fuck are you overthinking this?
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>>545970793
this

retard capitalists are using datacenter for imaginery money instead of computing plans to go up the kardashev scale

capitalists have always been retarded
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Data centres exist because of human input. We reduce the input by removing excess humans who can be demonstrated as having no qualities worth quantifying. Thus eliminating the need for space-data centres.

Ezpz. Next question. I can solve anything, just ask.
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>>545968346
Its worse that
>op is a xitter screencapping niggerfaggot
>both these retards believe space is real
Its all baloons bro, firmament is impenetrable
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>>545971054
Why are so many furries gay?
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>>545968620
Use this as an updoot button

+1
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>>545968346
Radiators work in ksp. What’s the problem?
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>>545968425
American worldliness on full display.
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>>545971174
Size
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>>545971085
Because we've let slip out genetic stock. To solve the problem we should enact a subtle culture and physical eugenics program.

Behaviour is scientifically and objectively downstream from genetics.
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>>545968346
I would cool it by capturing ice comets and strapping them to the orbital data centre to cool it down. Simple.
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>>545968346
By crashing it into Tel Aviv.
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>>545968346
The hotter an object is, the more efficiently it radiates heat in the form of infrared radiation. I can't remember the numbers but it is exponential. The plan is to operate the satellites at about 90 degrees Celsius. The technology is already proven.
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>>545968891
>now it’s slower than dial up.
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>>545969185
thank u but did u consider no1 asked and that doesnt answer his question
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>>545969451
Here is a better solution instead of going to space. Build data centers in colder areas, it will already cool it, plus you can use the hot water to heat houses, offices anything near by. The power and infrastructure would be a problem but it's better then going into space.
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>>545971207
For you
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You have my permission to use my urine to cool the data centers
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Just tape this guy to it.
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>>545968346
>Cooling off in spehhs
I'm all for putting shit in space because these low frequency emitters keep fucking with our whales, which is a bad thing.
In space, you get all the solar radiation you want with all the space you need to have an enclosed cooling unit.

If we're going technical with using physics to cool datacenters off, how about using Ganymede since that nigga has all the water needed for cooling?
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>>545968346
Just convert the electricity into cold like a fridge does
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>>545968346
You connect it to a space elevator built in international waters and pump seawater all the way up into the space station's heat exchangers.
You use solar panels in space to power the pumps.
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>>545968620
>-500* Celsius

hi elon!
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>>545971942
I forgot to add the space elevator itself serves as an additional heatsink, since it travels through cold upper atmosphere and cools down the water as it's being pumped through.
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>>545968346
Blackbody radiation.
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>>545969451
>Elon is retarded, but he could at least explain his sorry ass better.
>You do not put data centers 'in space' as in orbiting us like satellites.
That's literally what he means though, unfortunately.
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Heat transfers in 3 ways:
1) conduction
2) convection
3) radiation (only this works in space)
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>>545968346
They want to put them, in space because then people can't destroy them
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>>545972255
If the sun farts in the wrong direction, it will
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>>545972255
It's actually easier to disable them because the signal is wireless and you have a clear line of sight.
Jamming optic fiber on the ocean floor is a lot harder.
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>>545968346
cooling is possible - problem is that its not easy - radiating heat works best at high temperature - and most equipment at low
so in theory if you create AI stack that can reliably work at least 400-500celsius (higher the better really) cooling it on orbit is not a great feat
- but if not - there are other ways like heatpumps - but they are complicated and you dont want them in something you cannot repair as it is in orbit... or go full retard and go for huge radiators - but that not something easy to put into orbit and still need way to spread the heat to all this surface area and then you get heat transfer material freezing and unfreezing every few hours(earth shadow) then you have to keep it from freezing so additional complexity and weight (or put data center where there is always sunlight - but thats again more expensive that normal orbit)....
so possible - but for me its easier down here as you have ability to fix plumbing or replace pump... cooling by water air is also much more compact than radiators in vacuum...
spaaace is big but stil you have to get it there which is pretty expensive and later service those satellites it or throw away at any failure...
Leaders tend to oversimplify things so simple folks will follow - Musk built his status on promising simple solutions to complex problems - AND sometimes getting things done - thats good enough for me - i dont care if spacex shares will fall to 0 - buying them is my way to support ideas that i find worthwhile.
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>>545972633
It's much easier to just ask elon to build a setup with 10 latest nvideo video cards and 10 high speed 1tb ssd.
If he actually plans to build datacenters in space, this setup would be a piece of cake. Cost would be minimal, a tiny fraction of spacex budget... but he can't, otherwise he would have already done it to prove the point.
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>>545968464
Europa is dark and cold.
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>>545970681
god damn it it's just elon trying to get spacex into the datacenter business
how did i not see that
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>>545968346
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to make AI more energy efficient?
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>>545968425
It's ok Chosen One, I got it.
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>>545968637
It's not enough. Heat loss merely through radiation is very low compared to heat loss to a coolant, like air. The only way to increase heat dissipation is to superheat the radiator. You don't do this with passive coolant flows. The coolant in your example functions are heat storage. It's a viable solution for systems that occasionally produce heat spikes but relatively low heat over time. It's useless for a data center.
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>>545968425
Stream that movie if you're so great.
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>>545970478
>water pump
Doesn't that increase the electricity bill waaaay beyond the cost of the computation itself?
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China will win simply because it hasn't spent the last century laboring under the rule of politicians who are 100% devoted to selling the country out from under itself, and who have more or less succeeded in their ambition
Maybe this was the secret goal of those who told us to shitcan our own manufacturing base
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>>545970934
>bruh the vaccuum of space takes heat away
With atoms that don't exist (because it's a vacuum)?
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>>545968620
then why is earth not frozen
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>>545968425
Bots and new fags have no idea what you're talking about
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>>545969037

Build data centers next to powerplants

Can use that data center heat for HRSG's and use the water for a combined cycle that produces potable water.
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>>545968346
if you cant dissipate heat in space because of the vacuum then why do astronauts need space suits for anything other than the oxygen to breathe?
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>>545968346
thats how it works on earth. you circulate a coolant and then that coolant radiates the heat into space.
anyone who likes electronic cars is retarded.
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>>545968425
european name
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If I were Musk I guess I'd hire H1B workers until the target temps were reached



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