Russias security concerns is part of the deal to end the war.NATO must gtfo and return to Germany or Ukraine will be ground to dust.
>peace talksLOL!
>russia send their own human shield against iranian possible retaliation for dubai kikesLmoa.
kushner seems to be sliding into his intended shoes nicely
theres zero way all the baltic states and eastern yuro cunts will demilitarize after this. not even a shred of a chance. and the don probably knows this. hes just trying to get the fucking manlet in a room for once. getting putin to show up to fucking anything is like herding kots
I've never actually heard kushner speak, does he have anything like that voice
KILL MIGGERS
Why on earth are these two kikes the negotiators
lel, Ruskis are making a joke out of USA
>>545973531How can they militarise without IS, they have nothing. They can’t even launch a drones without US intelligence. Those countries only provide meet shields in exchange for some dollars to the politicians.
>>545973587ukraine is jewish owned, the US is jewish owned, the question you should be asking is why then aren't there 3 kikes present
>>545972173lmaoo trump always cucks out
>>545973531They couldn't militarize properly in the 1990s and they sure as fuck can't now that there's two whole new branches of combat arms (drone and cyber warfare) that smaller nations simply can't compete with.
>>545973542Try it, faggot. Or are you gonna bark on the internet all day?
Yes, surely the Bluenami will go along with this and not make use of the leash they have on Trump.
>>545973701thank god it's just a meat grinder for legal ethnic cleansing via kidnap conscript, eh
surely they can muster some vans full of jews and immigrants to snatch up citizens to feed to the drones
>>545973536he sounds like he is permanently seething
>>545973655A jew, a jew and a jew walk into a bar...
>>545973818what I meant was, kissinger had this very gravelly, deep ass smoker's voice, was kind of pleasant to listen to, had this compelling qualityfor that geopolitical powerbroker architect role kissinger served it would be ideal to have something similar>>545973900the second shoots the third because he mistakes him for a muslim and the third swears he was shot by a palestinian while the third asks for free drinks to cope with the antisemitic hate crime he just witnessed
fuck, I fucked it up, lel
>>545973587One is Donnie real-estate partner, the other his son-in-law. The aren't there to negotiate, but to sell influence.
>>545972173They are just trying to finesse 105-IQ cuck Putin as usual. This is nothing new. He falls for it every time and then whines "We were deceived." He'll soften his attacks and let Ukraine survive another winter like he always does.The fact that Dmitriev hasn't been unalived shows that there are no patriots in Russia.
>>545973635>>545973701at the beginning of this war, that mightve been true. but it is not anymore. collectively (which is exactly what would happen if putin invaded NATO turf and triggered article 4) they are substantially more threatening now. not the least of which because what theyve been stockpiling has been in direct response to what russias been doing in ukraine the past few years. russia would be running into another fresh, modern army, that just got kitted out, while still limping from their last fight. it would be retarded. and then they still have all the big NATO cunts like gremoney and france behind them to help bankroll the conflict ad infinitum, a la whats going on now.at any rate, you are confusing western NATO cunts, with the ones further east. unsurprisingly, the ones next in line are much more adamant about re-militarizing than say, spainso yes, individually they are small. but invading one, is invading all. you would not be fighting just one. thats why youve been hearing talks of ruskies maybe shifting focus and making a play on georgia next instead. theres no danger of article 4 there, and its much more geographically isolated and harder for western logistics (as opposed to ukr, where you can just put shit on a train and its there later tonight) to get involved.
>>545974225>The fact that Zelensky hasn't been unalived shows that there are no patriots in Ukraine.but actually Ukraine does have some patriots, I'm sure Russia does too, they're just not enoughhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1794312051222170.webm
>>545972173Wait, NATO will go back to 1998 borders before or after Trump pulls out US from NATO?However I'm sure it will happen because US' best negotiators are working on it and when it goes to diplomacy they have solid track record of successful deals coming into reality.
>>545974230There is no reason for Russia to fight Georgia. They are not map painting.
>>545974324>The fact that Zelensky hasn't been unalived shows that there are no patriots in Ukraine.This too.
>>545972173What is he going to do when that's not Americas choice? Withdraw from NATO? Too bad there's an act that requires 2/3 of congressional approval before that can happen.
Trump is a lame duck. Nothing he says matters anymore. And his two corrupt pro-russian cronies will be out of a job soon anyway.
>>545974845>Congress can overturn an executive order by passing a law that invalidates it, but the President can veto that law, and Congress would need a two-thirds supermajority to override the veto.and war powers are broad reachingtoo bad Iran isn't an actual war...
>>545974681>They are not map paintingthey are insofar as theyre trying to get their old map backand even aside from NATO concerns, its actually a much better set-up than eastern ukraine was. the russification of northern parts of georgia is far more thorough than donbas ever was. he would have no trouble starting a proper civil war this time, they would likely immediately have control of tblisi, and russian forces would be able to hang back and offer a more supporting role to the separatists, instead of fighting the whole thing themselves
>>545973635lol retard.
>>545975116>they are insofar as theyre trying to get their old map backYou concluded this on what basis?Also, they didn't start the Georgian civil war, it's some Caucasus tribal dispute they cashed in on. That's what Georgians here told me.The Abkhazia and Ossetia meme states are there to pressure Georgia and serve as a bargaining chip even. Both are afraid that they'll be hung out to dry by Russia.
>>545972173NATO can't remove members so this is a moot point.
>>545972173The Trump administration has no power domestically or abroad. These talks are a larp.
>>545972173POLLAND BOLLAND POLAND'S NEXT PONEXT PONEXTPO POPPOPOPPOPOPOPOLAND'S NEXT
>>545974230one nuke and those chihuahuas stop existing lmao, and all their investments in their militaries would be for not
nato expansion caused russian preemptive wars of defense. its an outdated agreement.
>>545974230uh why did the whole world cry when musk slowed down starlink?
>>545974230NATO hasn't been stockpiling shit, the only countries air defense on Europe are Turkey and Greece lol, completely depleted by the Ukraine warAnd the US finished depleting itself against Iran.
>>545974681>There is no reason for Russia to fight GeorgiaI can think of one.
>>545973531Why should Putin even seek peace? Every slav that dies will just be replaced by an indian?
>>545972173Warshington Compost is a CIAnigger rag. Trump isn't doing anything but giving newsies the vapors. Talk is not action. Media is not information, it's psychological warfare.
>>545972173man don’t i want to see zelensky brutalized to death by ukrannys
>>545976264*the only countries with air defense
>>545974845Wrong faggot.
>>545974845Wrong.NATO was a 20 year treaty and long expired.They did pass a law in 2024 requiring a 2/3rds senate vote but the legality of that is in question.
All russians like so-called poles, finns or latvians must be kicked from NATO
>>545973500but wasn't kissinger competent
>>545974230>invading one, is invading allArticle 5 is only worth as much as countries say it is. Remember Afghanistan when you guys called it and everyone except the UK and Canada just sent ten guys and told them to do the bare fucking minimum instead of the dozen divisions willing to fight to the last man for Freedom™ and Democracy™ the paper said you were entitled to.Western Europe won't do shit until they see how much Germany or the US care about Estonia or Poland and if they see anything short of total war they'll also send ten guys and a forklift hoping the war stops before six of them get drone'd.
>>545976264All of NATO’s air defense couldn’t even cover 5% of NATO territory before the Ukraine and Iran war now not even a 1%
>>545972173>Or Ukraine will be ground into dustYour terms are acceptable.Ukraine is nothing.
>>545976982yesbut who says kushner isn't competently accomplishing whatever his actual goals are
people actually think Trump is incompetent, but he's nothe's accomplishing the goals he was put in there for brilliantlyBobby Heenan would be envious as fuck
it takes someone very skilled to play incompetent to the level Trump doesliterally 6 million D chessagainst goyim
I don’t see the issue? We made a deal with Gorbachev to not expand NATO east after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. We betrayed their trust and this underlying betrayal resulted in the war. You can’t have peace without fixing the underlying problem.We had a similar problem with Cuba and it was resolved with a similar handshake deal. The difference being that Russia didn’t break it like we did.
>>545978103>We made a deal with Gorbachev to not expand NATO east after the dissolution of the Soviet UnionThe deal Gorbachev himself said was nothing but a myth? Solid shit you got there, pidor.
>>545978157This is EXTENSIVELY sourced including Gorbachev transcripts in the US National Security Archive.
>>545977062>Western Europe won't do shit until they see how much Germany or the US care about Estonia or PolandThat's why European Armies work together above political decission makers. When several Russian drones went to Poland at night 9-10 september last year, there was Polish, Dutch, Italian and German airforce all working together, so that if something happens Netherlands, Italy and Germany are all involved in war of Poland vs Russia and their political leadership can't back off. For the same reason there are tripwire forces (google it if you don't know what it is) in Baltic states from several European countries. Currently half of roads in eastern Poland and Baltic countries are being under reconstruction so that military equipment of western armies can ride freely up to Narva - which was political decission of European governments, separate from military procedures (made specifically to bypass polical leaderships if some of them decide to betray their allies).However biggest believers in NATO is actually Russian leadership itself. That's why Russians are so anal about "NATO expanshion" and why they chose to attack non-NATO Ukraine instead of weaker Baltic states.
Lmao we should ally with russia and subjugate europe*n slave cattle, hopefully send niggers to breed them out of existence
>>545978287Extensively sourced from your anus when there's interview footage of Gorbachev stating the whole thing is nothing but a myth.
Good.US is going to need every boot on ite soil, although, ultimately even that won't help in the end. But they'll be needed here more than anywhere in the world.
>>545978599I’ll forgive a 90+ year old man for having a spotty memory or thinking he can’t talk about it to the public.This is documented fact that’s visible in multiple nation’s national archives if you’re intellectually honest enough to look.
it is clear as day trump or his retarded friends have no will or power or authority or most importantly balls to change or do anything of significance but ruin things and make themselves richer.
>>545978814I accept your concession.
