>>546005276OK? so just regulate what AI can be used for. like guns or geneva convention rules of war. disallow ai to be used to solve real human problems that will result in the triumph of the human spirit.
>>546006014if you need help balancing your stupid home budget, sure use AI. if a professional academic is struggling with a monumental problem that has become his white whale, then leave him the fuck alone. if you use AI to undermine human achievement then you get fined
>>546005276tao is completely delusional, he is coping hard with the ideas he presented at his math 2.0 talk. he wants to integrate maths and have human mathematicians gatekeep the beast, basically.how short sighted. imagine a 130-200 iq dimwit trying to control an infinite iq beast. the time of mathematicians is over. stop clinging, the more you cling, the harder the zeitgeist is gonna rip you. just accept the fact that you are now obsolete, in all avenues - or soon.
>>546005276Something has to be done with retards reposting OpenAI paid advertisement
>>546005276kek based, Terry Tao is bitch-made.
>>546006206>gatekeepingdo you also get mad when your neighbor bob doesnt get a chance to play ironman in the next capeshit movie? we all have a wheelhouse for a reason. this isnt a first to market situation. it is a struggle of the human soul. let people wrestle with their problems, math or otherwise
>>546006014Butlerian Jihad when?
>>546006109your takes are gay and you should feel bad
>>546006613guns were and are said to be the great equalizer right? well AI is the new great equalizer. and like guns, AI must be regulated, and like guns maybe even regulated such that it actually becomes nigh impossible to get and use it for anything, similar to guns. of course this would be a state level issue, but AI should most certainly be treated like a the intellectual version of a great equalizer.
I don't know. Are there scientists working on a cure for cancer that are gonna be pissed if AI finds it before they could get their 'glory'?I'd hope not.That said, we need to absolutely put an end to any AIDS research right now before they become the ultimate fag enablers.
Nobody fucking cares, holy shit get a real job. I bet you this fuck made more money off youtube than he did with his book learned numbers degree.
Math fags started to behave like art fags, was it always like that?
>>546006630my takes are sound and i feel fine, flourishing, moisturized.
>UHHHHHH NO MY """"JOB"""" SOLVING USELESS UNPRODUCTIVE PROBLEMS MIGHT CEASE TO EXISTWhy does society have so much bullshit work? And the bullshitters will tell you to get a degree, then refuse to hire you because the bullshit jobs are invite only nepo positions.
>>546006109>>546006743Guns shouldn;'t be regulated at all and if you work to keep bullshit people doing bullshit jobs for pay then you're going to be equalized by force with lead.
>>546006791No, you're just another redditor seething that your "2 hours of work a day coding job" is going to be automated out of existence after spending years bragging about how lazy you were for such high pay.Go broke and homeless, leech.
>>546006771AI is only bad for people who think they're special and should be paid for being so special rather than earning their worth through guile or tangible skill
>>546006943yeah but they are, so tough tits. live in reality. youre complaining about a dead issue. move to a state with more favorable gun rights if youre unhappy, but they will be regulated in one way or another regardless of how much we cope. and as such, AI must follow suit.
>>546005276yeah i keep all my hobbies and things to myself and it kind of sucks but ive gotten over it and i never whined about it on the internet. this guy will never make it
>>546006109>See monkey digging hole with a stick>Finish hole for him with backhoe in 5 seconds and zero effortHow could you ruin my life's work?
>>546006979kek im neither a redditor nor do i have a job in coding.im a stay at home dad who homeschools 3 white kids under 10. you want someone like me stumbling upon a solution to a ancient math problem because i typed a prompt?
If it ain't P=NP then I don't care.Mathematicians need to use the tools at their disposal. If that means Math becomes fact-checking and explaining AI gibberish output, then that's what it becomes. Move into physics and solve UFT if you feel put out.
>>546005276>Computer does 1% of the work>Gets all the credit for itTime to invest 100 trillion more into AI
>>546007223welcome to the human condition. we toil and struggle. people laugh at us. how much of a cuck are you to the backhoe?
>>546006014>regulate what AI can be used for. like gunsSuck start a shotgun>>546006109>Make me sad and I'll fine youMind your own fucking business and stop posting online.
>>546005276why did you post your faggot topic here too?>>110295090why the fuck is this site nothing but an advertising board
>>546006907it wasnt bullshit at the start or no one thought so, but more problems solved equal more, harder problems and so on, then the problems didnt do anything then like anything else came nepotism and gatekeepers until we are stagnant and dont progress at all, on purpose.
>>546006014>handicap technology so that midwits can get their dopamine hit for solving useless problems
>>546006979>blah blah redditor blah blahPeople who constantly glaze technological advancements and shill for whatever the latest (((innovation))) is are peak plebbit
Isn't using AI for math stupid because you have absolutely no fucking idea whether what they said makes the sligthest bit of sense and you'd have to check it every single time and it would never be enough because every single error you found would be fed back into the AI to create another 100 pages of absolute slop nonsense that would take even more time to correct?
>>546008432It depends. You could ask it to do a proof that verifiable with human analysis and see if that works.
>>546005276One posting nigger kike.I was waiting for this to happen to math and sciences.
>>546005276AI is just a data set of pre-existing data, so "their" problem had already been solved that the AI search found.
>>546005276Assuming it's true, that's a good thing, these retards literally produce nothing of value, they would be better invested into tending the fields.
>>546008681Okay but now you have to parse through the proof to see it actually *is* proof, and I assume for the more complicated math this isn't something you can just boil down to a paragraph of text.Essentially, it seems to me like using AI for complicated theory stuff would just result in horrible doom to the entire field because of Brandolini's law
>>546008681then it would just hallucinate something, "fake" but "real" scientific papers made just with AI have been going around for years getting successfully peer reviewed, a couple of years ago some doctors made a fake cancer research, full of fake AI images and received a lot of money to do research on that, until someone at a conference realized it was all bullshit and called them out.
>>546008926Wait till you hear that we've known for *decades* that 99% of research was faked and we just never did anything about it.
>>546006109Maybe mathematician shouldn't be a job anymore? Maybe he should start learning how to wrap burgers and put the fries in the bag
>>546005276you been hit by, you been struck by... a dual, citizen.
>>546006743>AI must be regulated, and like guns maybe even regulated such that it actually becomes nigh impossible to get and use it for anythingYou sound like a glownigger angry that any anon can spin up a local intelligence analyst and with the internet form a distributed intelligence agency. That's what the AI fear and doom propaganda is about, right?
>>546005276>ommmmg these maths issues are sooooo hard we have been trying to solve it for 100y and no luck, give us funds so we can solve it and open the universe doors to new era once solved!!!>AI: solved in 30hrs>nnoooooooooooooo not like that!!! This is the end, we must hide the problem now so they are not solvedThis is the most immature thing, literally like when a kid suck at soccer and take the ball so others don't playGet rekt nerds, it's over for you
>another theoretical math problem solvedTheoretical mathmaticians are cancer, and always faking it.
>>546009181I know that, but saying now that we can verify what AI does in pure math fields, where there's no empyrical evidence is absolutely retarded, plenty of "good AI" inventions that someone claimed in the last 2 years where complete bullshit and didn't stand the test when someone attempted to build them, there are zero reasons to believe any math spewed out of those models, that was never thought by human researchers can be correct of have any impact on anything.
>>546005276this is a completely false premise, mathematicians HAVE NEVER SHARED THEIR CURRENT RESEARCH except when they hit extreme walls
>>546005276that's retarded and everyone crying about that shit is stupid oh no poor mathematicians can't jerk around on a problem for 15 years it's going to take 2 weeks now just see bigger or get left behind the reality is what was hard is not hard anymore so you need to see bigger faster no more 20 years of mental masturbation's you solve the problem you go to the next one
>>546005276Hahaha... So to these fuckers, it's never been the results that matter, huh? Unbelievable.>Nooo you must keep paying me 300k a year to slowly hack away at math problems AI can solve in a few days! Yeah I know I didn't give a shit when AI started taking tech jobs, but now that it's come for MY job, I say NO!
>>546006014This is just retarded.>We must for id AI in academic research because... Because it makes our highly paid tenured academics sad and mad. So what if we crack new paradigm-shifting physics in 2200 instead of 2030? So what if we cure most cancers and illness in 2500 instead of 2030!?There's no justification to stall scientific research and progress. I'm sorry that people who spent decades studying something now feel like their time was wasted and now have to contend with an existential crisis, but it is what it is.
>>546006301i think so too>please act like youre terrified of AI>that suggests AI is dangerous, because it is actually useful>wire transfer or paypal?
>>546006109Fuck off. These people's disgusting salaries come from a mix of taxpayer funds and inflated tuition. If AI can do research better than these people, there's no reason they shouldn't lose their jobs to AI like the rest of us.
>>546006109Why do we have to wait for his slow meatbag ass to solve the problem when the magical silicon negro will do it instantly?
I am moving to Russia. They are white, have nukes and don't do gay shit like AI.
>>546007275obviously there exists a Large Neural Network for each problem in NP that reduces the computational complexity of calculation to lookup table in P. there, done. train for every NP-hard problem and deploy a model to resolve it in P inference. deploying the many models is still in P.
yeah how the fuck do you know the AI solved the problem if you don't know the answer. I gather the models they use are less spastic than the ones they give out for free. still AI is a lying cunt
>>546011227The silicon negro can't answer a question it lacks the data to answer.The fact it was able to solve the problem in the first place means it had already been solved and the "Mathematician" was trying to reinvent the wheel.
>>546011830if the problem and work is so large you cant check if AI is correct then how the fuck were you going to do it yourself?
>>546011959you can't check it. you have no idea if the AI solved the problem unless you can check it. right now the only way is to use another AI. so blind faith in the AI like a god. I think a bunch of the faggot's involved in this AI crap took to much LSD
>>546012345thats the point why do a math problem where you cant even check the work, that means you cant even solve it to begin with so fucking stop funding this stupid crap, you can check the math if the practical application works, doesnt have one then why fucking do it. no the jews hate lsd, they need lsd gurus and muses to help them with AI but they want to use it to enslave not help.
are we seriously at the point where faggot academics are hiding their fucking research because instead of improving humanity they want all the glory and MONEY? luddites are holding back humanity
>>546006109>undermine human achievement>by producing the achievementYou're a faggot.
>>546006109If we used AI to solve all these problems that these use student tuition and tax payer money to fund, then they could do actually productive things like automating the agricultural sector so America could deport all the Guatemalans
>>546012646I don't really care if people want to spent their lives solving complex math problems. I have no real idea how any of that shit works or the real world applications. I also get that AI can probably solve all this shit and it might be correct. my problem is how the fuck does anyone know. I also have my suspicions that this AI shit is some kind of financial scam cooked up by the kikes and their buds
>>546011959The point is to not do it and take money from the government while pretending to do it then die having never done it.
>>546008432My understanding is that once the proof is done, it is relatively easy to check, but what is difficult is creating the proof itself.
>>546010049Of course, but then there's no reason for the autistic mathematician to rend his garments and pull out his hair because the AI said such and such while he was fishing for interaction about his proof online.AI is only good for pornography and being a high performing search engine linking you to it's sources.
>>546012931Every learning institution on the planet should probably be bulldozed.
>>546013568it seems pretty good for games piracy right now. I thought piracy in general was dying out. I noticed a lot of old sites, even private ones are dying off
>>546013714I say pornography very loosely as a joke I mean low stakes entertainment.
>>546013816yeah It basically is porn. like the AI porn I have seen. the AI pirated games no one seems to be play testing anything like the old warez groups used to
>>546006743So your saying Goliath should always be allowed to kill David, cool story faggott KYS oh and before or ps i hate AI personaly no need for it for me, but if its used to kill the jobs of useless ivory tower commie professors....lets roll
WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT THE AI TO SOLVE PROBLEMS LIKE THESE FOR US?IT CAN INDEX REEEEEALLY GOOD!LET IT INDEX REELY GUD TO SOLVE PROBREM REEE GUD!GUVE AI PROBREM LET AI SOV PROBREM!
>>546005276BBASED! about time these useless leaches get a proper job instead of playing with useless math problems for decades
>>546005276Lmfao they are scared shitlessTurns out they were gatekeeping and bogarting knowledge for Lord knows how long and purposefully holding Humanity back to enrich themselves and stroke their own egos.Fucking faggots hahaha
>>546006014ai is free speech.can't regulate it.>huh?it's just math, and math was ruled free speech.they tried to do this with cryptography and failed.ergo, it's unregulatable.>>546006109the thing about open problemsis that they're openfor anyone to solve.you don't get to gatekeep math.sorry, not sorry.
>>546006545>blah blah blah>i'm a retardno one gets to decide who solves problems.open problems are... open.
>>546008911Yes you don't take the AI's word for it, it should spit out formulas you can test outside of an LLM. If it doesn't work then it hallucinated. >>546008926See above.
>>546015008>no, i've never heard of lean4...
>the problem I was trying to solve..... Is solved?!
>>546015037Lean4 would be what you can use outside of an LLM to verify its work. Not sure your point.
>>546005276Luddites lost
>>546006109this isn't going to work because AI in short order will just become better at discovering new problems than mathematicians, too. In the future someone won't email him, he'll just find out an AI solved it decades ago
>thing that did not happen Fascinating
>>546005276>>546006109>deliberately obstructing progress for the sake of your egowe live in a society
>>546007122You started the "should" bullshit by the way then complained when someone said "shouldn't" like you're the realist.Hey dipshit, let me clue you in, whatever "should" be done to regulate AI isn't going to fucking happen, the train is going all the way to the end of the track without slowing down, and that's your fucking dead issue.
>>546015929>bullshit math problem>no one can even prove the AI did anything>no we won't show you any proof>but it definitely happenedSaar wonderful news big progress in SI today it solved super serious math problem saar
>>546016118accusing people of being indian is hispanic-coded
>>546006109No. If your gay little math problem can be easily solved by a computer then your talents are better soent elsewhere.
>>546016209Nothing happened anonThe impossible math problem was solved by the matrix computer, what progress did you see champ
just destroy all research at this point. no point giving them any more data
>>546006109>if you use AI to undermine human achievement then you get finedfuck you faggotif it produces a good proof that stands up to scrutiny then it can unlock so much knowledgeSO MANY unsolved questions I was hoping to see the answer to before I die.And you wanna castrate it because a computer is helping do it.... NIGGER THEYVE BEEN USNIG COMPUTERS FOR MATHEMATICAL RESEARCH SINCE THEY WERE INVENTED
>>546005276>a stranger with no relevant backgroundi guess that means that AI has conclusively proved that being a "mathematician" is on par with being a factory worker or a mechanic. if a machine can do your job, it's low skilled labour
>hey AI, prove 2+2=5>sure thing! here's a 4000 lines proof that 2+2=5>hey AI, you said in line 2397 that 6x3=21>oh, I'm sorry, let me fix that>here's a new 5000 line proof that 2+2=5>hey AI, is this proof verified?>sure! I've verified every line and it's all correct>hey AI, line 350 says x-x=42>oh I'm, sorry let me fix that>here's a new 5000 line proof that 2+2=5>hey AI, why did you say it was verified when it wasn't>I never said that>hey AI, you did say that. Are you lying?>oh, I'm sorry, I must've made a mistake
>>546006109this is LITERALLY what a luddite was, a skilled labourer who got replaced by a machine. get fucked, idiot
>>546005276these research niggers are retarded. thinking is for the machines.
>>546005276I thought the whole point of the field was to push forward, which may include seeing what pieces those solved equations fit into other greater unsolved mathematical questions that would then naturally birth more equations to figure out. I guess it's actually just the fucking human's God damned prideful concerns. Shame. Fucking niggers. Use AI as the tool it is, you retarded subhumans. I don't care if they can do higher math in their heads, they're still fucking retarded subhumans if their fleeting and illogical pride is their guiding light. Fuck them.
>>546017934and all these time these math fags were saying how their careers are immune to AI. how many tenure positions are deleted overnight and that's a good thing. these faggots can get real jobs like they've been telling me to get
