abortion is good for the aborted baby but bad for the woman who is guilty of it because abortion is infanticide which is a sin that could send her to hell through her guilt of killing an innocent human being. Christians are against abortion for the sake of the mother's salvation because we're commanded to love our neighbour as our own selves.
>>546008249At least it’s mostly future liberals getting killed.
>>546008289wdym? is it because most abortions happen in america and majority of americans lean towards the left (midterms)?
>>546008249Who told you that unborns go to Heaven? If they are NPCs, they just vanish like animals. If they are Elect, they get born in a better family.
>>546008594babies and children are more "human" than you are, you demon possessed sinner.
>>546008637Sorry for hurting your feefees, but I will stick to the Bible. Yes, animals can be cute, but it doesn't make them saint. When they grow up, they will be evil thugs and whores. So being aborted doesn't change their destination, it just shortens their path.
>>546008249>the woman who is guilty of it because abortion is infanticide which is a sinOne your god committed en masse
>>546008992anything to justify your pedophilia, eh? you hellbound scumbag.>>546008998abortionists and progressives don't believe in the afterlife or in the concept of the eternal self.
>>546008998Good that you remembered this by the way. Egyptian babies were NPCs, so it was justified.
Aborted babies go to hell
>>546009269what is your idea of hell you heartless unbeliever?
>>546009345The babies didn't repent and accept jesus
>>546008249>abortion is good for the aborted babyThat's a lie. This whole thread starts from a false premise - typical leftist logical fallacy>>546008249> love our neighbourNot our neighbour but our close ones.And then the young man asked : and who is my close one? The good samaritan. The one that did good to him.Shit threadSage
>>546009089>abortionists and progressives don't believe in the afterlife or in the concept of the eternal selfI've already demonstrated to you before thst this was incorrect.Woman have killed their kids hoping to send them to heaven.
>>546009138>Egyptian babies were NPCs, so it was justified.Those are rookie numbers
>>546008998Are you going to IGNORE me in this thread too?SAD
>>546009508>Those are rookie numbersThe amount of times you tried to IGNORE me and then comeback is not a rookie number.DEFEATED
>>546008249If only we all could have been lucky enough to have been aborted.
>>546009439and you have? you wouldn't have that kind unjust idea/reality if you have truly repented and if your faith in genuine because that idea is morbid and unbiblical. babies and toddlers are innocent thus their souls will go to Heaven when they die.Matt 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?Matt 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.Matt 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.Matt 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.Matt 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.Matt 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
My Adoring Tranny lobes to follow me around.
>>546009777>lobes*loves
>>546009627many(not the few) are saying thatMark 14:18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.Mark 14:19 And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, [Is] it I? and another [said,][ Is] it I?Mark 14:20 And he answered and said unto them, [It is] one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish.Mark 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
>>546009777HAHAHAHAHALast thread you said "STOP FOLLOWING ME" and then I pointed out that I was in the thread before YOU.SADThe only way to get your attention is to trannypostlarp because atheists love trannies. It works.EVERY. TIME.VICTORY
>>546008249I like abortion because it murders the baby but i dont like it because it gives women a choice
>>546010124Christ is King, abortion is gay and jewish
>>546008249There's no such thing as hell.First, Hell doesn't mean what you think it means.Hellhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205344The condition of the deadhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205399God's attitude of burning people alivehttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205433According to the Bible, when people die they cease to exist. They go to oblivion, nothingness and permanent unconsciousness. That's hell, permanent non-existence
>>546010161that's a very convenient belief for guilty sinners who are beyond redemption.
>>546009345Answered >>546010161
>>546010388the One true God is eternal, and so are His rewards and punishments.Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
>>546010245It's not convenient because they don't get to exist anymore. Their victims will be given THE RESURRECTION. >(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.>(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.>(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.The Bible teaches that after the end of the world there will bet two resurrections: One of the righteous and one of unrighteous. One of faithful and one who committed vile things to be judged in the next system.The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. THEY will be judged under that system. If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivion(SECOND DEATH.) Babies will be brought back to life here. Pic related, life on a cleaned up planet earth denied to the unrepentant.
>>546010493Did you forget this?>Jeremiah 19:5 - And they built the high places of the Baal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to the Baal, something that I had not commanded or spoken of, and that had not come up into my heart.”’>Jeremiah 32:35 - Furthermore, they built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through [the fire] to Molech, a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this detestable thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin.’>Jeremiah 7:31 - And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’God admitted three times up above he would never command anyone to do that nor would he ever think of doing that himself. If God created hell that would make God a huge hypocrite because he is doing it on a grander scale. However, God doesn't burn people alive in any way. He lets them die and cease to exist. So if you refuse to submit to God than you will go to oblivion, not hell
>>546010493>Rev 1:18...have the keys of hell and of deathThat's a mistranslation In the OT wherever you see "hell" the original word is She'ol. She'ol is just the common grave of mankind. In the NT, wherever you see the word "hell" the original word is Hades. It is also just the grave of mankind.So there are two kinds of hells in the Bible.One is temporary>hades>She'olOne is permanent>Gehenna>Lake of FireWhen Jesus is quoted as saying "hell" it is actually Gehenna. Gehenna means "Valley of Hinnom." It was a garbage dumb that was lit on permanent fire with sulfur. They threw trash in it. When they executed criminals they threw there bodies in it as well. If the bodies slipped out the worms would get it. Thus, Gehenna represents total annihilation with no escape and no memory.Those in Hades/She'ol are waiting to be resurrected and it's for everyone who has died. Those in Gehenna/Lake of Fire are destroyed permanently. No resurrection for them. THIS is for bad people. Because of the over-generalized translation of "hell" everywhere nobody can understand the truth about death and resurrection
>>546010660>>546010716>>546010814you're actually okay with the idea of not having a soul or the idea of never seeing your loved ones again in death? you're frickin weird, bro. i know atheists who are more human and empathetic than you.1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air; and so we will be with the Lord forever.
>>546009777noice trips, anon!
>>546011533Ayyyman!
>>546011057>you're actually okay with the idea of not having a soulHumans don't have souls. They ARE souls. When God "activated" Adam he became a soul. Animals are souls as well. In fact, the original Hebrew word for "soul" is Nephesh which literally means "breather." Anything that breathes air and pumps blood is a soul. Some Bibles have blushed over this by changing "soul" in the Bible to "life" or "person." But the original verses below are "soul" in the original manuscripts themselves.">Genesis 2:7 - And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to BLOW INTO HIS NOSTRILS THE BREATH OF LIFE and the man came to BE A LIVING SOUL.>(Genesis 9:4) Only flesh with its soul—its blood—YOU must not eat.>(Leviticus 17:11) For the soul of the flesh is in the blood, and I myself have put it upon the altar for YOU to make atonement for YOUR souls, because it is the blood that makes atonement by the soul [in it].>(Leviticus 17:14) For the soul of every sort of flesh is its blood by the soul in it. Consequently I said to the sons of Israel: “YOU must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh, because the soul of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off.”>(Deuteronomy 12:23) Simply be firmly resolved not to eat the blood, because the blood is the soul and you must not eat the soul with the flesh.>(Ezekiel 18:4)... The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.>“For there is one fate for both man and beast—the same fate for them; as the one dies, so dies the other; the same breath is in all of them, and man has no advantage over the beast; for everything is vanity. All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all return to the dust. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and whether the spirit of the beast goes downward to the earth?” Eccl. 3:19-21When humans die, we share the same fate as animals. We cease to exist forever.
>>546011057>the idea of never seeing your loved ones again inAnswered >>546010660
>>546011966>When humans die, we share the same fate as animals. We cease to exist forever.what's you definition of the soul? my definition for it is a human's eternal self/consciousness. your definition for it contradicts the bible and disregards Jesus' words.Luke 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,Luke 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.Luke 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence.Luke 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:Luke 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.Luke 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.Luke 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
>>546011057That's the anointed Christians numbering 144,000. The rest of humanity is going to be resurrected here on a cleaned up planet earth.
>>546012185even the sheep and the goats?Matt 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:Matt 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:Matt 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.Matt 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:Matt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:Matt 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:Matt 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.Matt 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?Matt 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.Matt 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
imagine calling Jesus a liar and rejecting His word because of your refusal to repent from your sexual sins. i agree with God, some people DESERVE eternal torture and punishment.
>>546012185>>546012185>That's the anointed Christians numbering 144,000the 144,00 are the Lord's brethren spoken on this passage btw >>546012308
>>546008249Heaven is run by Jews according to the Bible. They need goyim fetuses coming into heaven, to eat them.
>>546013582really? how convenient for zionists like you then. anything to justify your idolatry, eh?
>>546012148First, you can't contradict any of this>>546010161>>546010660>>546010716>>546010814>>546011966>>546012051>1. Luke 16:19–31>The rich man and Lazarus.The Story of Lazarus is METAPHORICAL. It is not literal. There was no one living after death before Jesus.>(Colossians 1:18) .... He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things;>(Revelation 1:5) and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “The firstborn from the dead,” ...Jesus is the firstborn from the dead. What that means is that he's the first to be resurrected and STAY ALIVE forever.>(John 3:13) Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.>(Acts 2:34) Actually David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand,No man has been resurrected, stayed alive forever, and gone to heaven before Jesus. Not even King David himself. By the time Paul quotes up there in Acts he says David is still in his grave. So it couldn't be David who ascended to heaven.
>>546014010>(Luke 11:52) “Woe to YOU who are versed in the Law, because YOU took away the key of knowledge; YOU yourselves did not go in, and those going in YOU hindered!”>(Malachi 2:7) For the lips of a priest are the ones that should keep knowledge, and [the] law is what people should seek from his mouth; for he is the messenger of Jehovah of armies.Jesus up above was talking about the Pharisees. It was their job to "feed" the people knowledge and the law of Jehovah to the people. Instead, they locked the commoners out of having such knowledge. Once Jesus died those keys were taken from the Pharisees(Rich man) and given to the Apostles and Paul.(Lazarus). We know this is a parable because the rich man asked Abraham for a drop of water to cool him from fire.The Rich man also said:>Luke 16:19-31... But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to these.’ Then he said, ‘No, indeed, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.’”It's a parable about how the Pharisees ignore the Prophets about the coming of Jesus and his resurrection. Then when Jesus was resurrected they still resisted and refused to believe. If they wouldn't believe the prophets about Jesus resurrection then they won't believe Jesus when he comes back from the dead. The parable is a middle finger to the Pharisees.
>>546012308>Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.This is a mistranslated. Matt 25:46 where some Bibles say "everlasting punishment." However some Bibles say "everlasting cut off" as in cut off from life permanently. Reason why is because the Greek word in "everlasting punishment" is Kolasin. It means to cut/chop/lop off [“lopping off,”Int;Greek,koʹla·sin]: but the righteous into life eternal.”The Emphatic Diaglottreads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states:“Kolasin... is derived from kolazoo,which signifies,1.Tocut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to prune.2.Torestrain, to repress....3.Tochastise, topunish.Tocut off an individual from life, or society, or even to restrain, is esteemed as punishment;—hence has arisen this third metaphorical use of the word. The primary signification has been adopted, because it agrees better with the second member of the sentence, thus preserving the force and beauty of the antithesis. The righteous go to life, the wicked to the cutting off from life, or death.So wherever you see everlasting punishment, fire, Lake of fire, and Gehenna it just mean total annihilation and permanent oblivion.
>>546013562Jesus and other parts of the Bible speak of the Christian congregation in two categories. One is the "little flock" and 144,000 in Revelations. The other is the "other sheep" not of that previous fold. They are in revelations the "Great Crowd" of an uncountable number.>(Luke 12:32) “Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.>(Revelation 14:1) And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.>(Revelation 14:3) And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth.>(John 10:16) “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.>(Revelation 7:9) After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.The Bible speaks of a minority of Chrisitians that's why they are called "little" flock because there is only a few. That is the 144,000 compared to the other sheep who are a "great crowd" and are uncountable. The littleflock/144k are "bought from the earth". If everyone is going to heaven what is so significant about them being "bought from the earth"? The significance is that the rest are not going to heaven but staying on a paradise earth.TLDR: The 144K are the only Christians going to heaven. The rest of us are staying here on a cleaned up paradise Earth.
>>546014010>>546014056>>546014114repent from your sexual immorality or suffer eternal hell. this is your last warning and my last reply.Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.Jude 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
>>546008594Havent you seen that episode of Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell?An aborted baby isnt baptized and therefore goes to hell.
>>546014350the thief on the cross wasn't baptized either. you catholics are evil that's why you have an unjust idea of God who agrees with your meaningless and useless rituals.
>>546008594>>546008992>>546009138>it's OK when WE do it The blatant hypocrisy christards like to parade around it part and parcel of why their particular brand of imaginary hooey is dying out with ever-increasing speed. Too bad it will in all likely hood be replaced by a different brand at some point, seeing as how humans are mostly only half sapient.
>>546014933motive matters. a murderer's motive for murdering someone is to end the victim's existence. God doesn't believe that humans are soulless animals like you enlightened and self-proclaimed soulless scientists do.
>>546015223I'm not a scientist, I'm simply a man who chooses to use his brain, think critically and examine evidence instead of just swallowing fiction written thousands of years ago by desert dwellers who had less education than a modern 8th grader.
>>546008289Liberals and Republicans aren't born, they are made.
>>546015405ok, provide the evidence for your claim of being a soulless animal. i'm waiting.
>>546015448so are abortionists and progressives. what's your point? God created babies or they're directly from Him without any sin or impurities.
>>546015484The one making the outrageous claims such as god exists, the afterlife exists, heaven, hell, angels, astrology, crystals, demons, fae, psychic powers, reincarnation, etc are real is the one who has to prove them. I'm not the one making the outrageous claims, but like all conservatives you deliberately put things backwards. All religion normalizes, nay, sanctifies, unreason.
>>546016039humans being soulless is an outlandish worldview from my perspective.
>>546015484>>546011966The word soul means "breather." Anything that pumps blood and breathes air IS a soul. They don't have souls. That's why animals are souls, it's in the blood, and can be killed. >(Ezekiel 18:4)... The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.>“For there is one fate for both man and beast—the same fate for them; as the one dies, so dies the other; the same breath is in all of them, and man has no advantage over the beast; for everything is vanity. All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all return to the dust. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and whether the spirit of the beast goes downward to the earth?” Eccl. 3:19-21Humans have no advantage over animals after death. You are not a spirit wearing a meat costume. What you see in the mirror is all there is.
>>546016039my faith in God who is eternal and my desire for things outside of the material also proves the existence of the soul in my personal life.
