Why can't they win?
>>546032894They're retarded
>>546032894Ukraine is gone already... EU crumble financially and economically Zelensky Demands money for 10 more years Russia will survive EU will not ..so what do you mean by 'win' ? There is no winners in war everybody loose ... Jews are wining total hate from humanity .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcnnLXO0Ld4&pp=ygUQbWlsaXRhcnkgc3VtbWFyeQ%3D%3D
>>546033116good morning saar
>>546032894Because to the last Ukranian. Why Ukraine made this the condition immediately with nothing at stake may never be understood.
>>546032894They won a long time agoUkraine would’ve surrendered a long time ago but the west won’t allow them to do soRussia is kicking a dead horse
Who says they can't?
>>546032894It's over. They lost. They just can't admit it.
>>546032894Because they are evil and god being a trans hermaphrodite hates conservatives for ruling wickedly in his name.
>>546033194Oh look. A talking monkey.
>>546033210I do.
>>546032894Because perpetuating the conflict is more profitable for them. Before the war, almost all of the money was stolen by Moscow, Chechnya and SPB. The scraps that reached the poorfags outside Moscow and SPB were barely enough to drink themselves to death.Now at least their children are able to afford housing and all they need to do is die in Ukraine.A civil war is inevitable at this point even if Ukraine surrenders because the men that will return from Ukraine will refuse to go back to the old $400 a month factory job.
>>546032894because the EU is paying 100 billions every year to keep ukraine alive
>>546032894Too much estrogen.
>>546032894>Why can't they win?Wars are politics by other means. What is a political victory for Russia? What does Russia really want?
>>546032894Russia used to be great. Then Stalin the gigga nigger used corruption to destroy the equitable society Lenin had left them. The US messed with thier sovereignty destablizing the country. During the 90s all the descent Russians fled to america and to Ukraine leaving only the dregs of society behind. Suseptable to vodka and too weak minded to fight back, Putin the paranoid faggot took control. No all that is left is vodka, potato, and dying from Ukrainian toys.
>>546033194Imagine fighting to a stalemate against a dead horse, why are Russians so bad at war?
>>546033416Comically high corruption at all levels of government
Why can’t the Ukranny win? All that NAFO vaporware and trillions in funding but still losing territories to Russians armed with shovels
>>546033568Brother Kim really came through with the ammo/manpower
>>546032894ukraine is run by gambling addicts that keep doubling and tripling down, hoping something would change. this will go on until eu gets fed up footing the bill, russia kills all their leaders or they run out of people for bussification. Sad! really
>>546033568>trillions in fundingMostly goes to Zoglensky’s coke budget
>>546033194basedIt is truth there is no Ukraine any more .If everything would stop, men will run away for new beginning some where else, where is some life or jobs ...
>>546033568The northern front collapsed because they ran out of everything but you probably cope that it was a gesture of goodwill
>>546033416Ukraine has lost half its population and is demanding almost $200 billion in gibs for this year alone. Ukraine has no volunteers. Zelensky is literally genociding Ukrainians against Russian steel. This they call patriotism.
>>546032894They can and they will. It's just gonna cost at least a million more lives.
>>546033259Opinion discarded.
better question is why ukraine can't win despite 1 trillion military budget and throwing their whole population at russia?
>>546032894Russia is a corrupted oligarchic shithole that still thinks that throwing people at the problem is gonna solve it
>>546033721And yet Russia is unable to win, weird.
>>546033749>1 trillion military budget Where do you come up with retarded make believe shit like this
>>546033822>corrupted oligarchic shithole that still thinks that throwing people at the problem is gonna solve itBut enough about Ukraine
>>546033728Well they don't need to. I would just try save as much man as possible, because more expansive then war, is to keep occupied territory and feed people that produce nothing. Right now Ukraine sucks from the west, It is a sucker shit hole.
>>546033914ukraine got 100 billion every year for the last 5 years in financial aid only. That's already half a trillion in aid.
>>546033878Why is it weird? 1 trillion military budget and throwing the whole Ukrainian population at Russia is not enough for you to win?
>>546033968100 billion what?
>>546033927Are you now gonna pretend that Russia is not run by incompetent kleptocrats? 3 days special military operation indeed
>>546034010Shekels
>>546034008May we see that 1 trillion military budget?In reality even with aid Ukraine spends less than Russia does.
5 fucking years.FIVE
>>5460340171 trillion military budget and sacrifice entire male pigger population but still can’t win against evil Russia lmao
>>546034010liquidity that found its way either back to the sender, or to south American cartels, African warlords and producers of luxury goods. you should know how a circular ponzi works
>>546032894Lack of protein and being at rest for too long. This ends a man capacity.
>>546034010At this rate the Kiev's regime gets more western money that Israel received total since 1950. Why don't you nuke Ukraine for stealing your money.
>>546034080Gozzillions BTW may I see Russia's numbers?
>>546032894Undisciplined and incompetent leadership
>>546034065AfD is going to shut down your nafo shill department. Enjoy being unemployed
>>546034111Damn maybe I should move to Ukraine for some of those sweet gibs
>>546034065Do you actually believe Ukraine is winning or is it just a cope? Because Ukraine is clearly losing by now
>>546033968>ukraine got 100 billion every year for the last 5 years in financial aid onlyWhat do you mean "only"? That's literally all the aid they got. So 500 billion across 5 years for ALL aid, including military, you lying zigger.
>>546034308no retard they got a ton of hardware for free, services like western intel and starlink for free and humanitarian aid. It's well above 1 trillion.
>>546033259I respect your opinion. Thank you for the advice!
>>546033302kek
>>546034148AfD has abandoned deportation. They aren't getting elected. Add it to the list of 'right wing' russian saviours that lost.
>>546034408>no retard they got a ton of hardware for freeDo you think these billions in military aid are on top of free gibs or something? and not exactly what the military aid means?The absolute state of ziggers
>>546034286Ukraine is winning convincingly.
>>546032894i have a hard time seeing any russian believing in the causes of the war, whatever that may be. everyone involved is just there for a paycheck with no incentive of winning.
>>546034499no tranny the 100 billions a year are a "loan" that the hohols aren't gonna pay back ever. All the extra free shit they got isn't included in that.
>>546034603>can't even keep his arguments straightfirst you said one trillion Then it turned out it's 500 billion in total aid spread across 5 yearsThen you said they got equipment for free on top of that funding Then it turns out it's not on top at allNow you moved onto some of that funding being loans Classic zigger goalpostshifting techniques in play
>>546034286Both sides are losing and Europe is winning when these slaveshits are removed from our continent
>>546034484They didn't
Because if they used their yearly drafted call-ups to get the numbers they need instead of relying on contract soldiers, it would damage the delicate "not my problem" balance they have barely maintained and cause the average Russian to actually consider opposing the war.
>>546034725lol fucking hohol that escaped ukraine to avoid the draft how hard is it to understand that ukraine got 500 billion euros from the EU as a "loan" and they also got free military hardware, free services like satelite intel and humanitarian aid for their troops making the total aid recived over 1 trillion? Don't they teach basic math in your slav shithole country?
The original aim of capturing Kiev and incoporating Ukraine into part of Russia failed. Now Ukranians hate Russia. The war has been catastrophic for Ukraine and the rest of the world, and it has no end in sight, because if Putin doesn't get at least something, he's a dead man walking.
>>546034132Russia will be a tributary state of China. China is using the Russia-Ukraine and Iran-US conflicts to weaken the American/NATO hegemony and bring about it's own rise as the World's Economic Hegemon. Russia will act as it's military dog and Iran's position is currently dubious, but if it plays it's cards right it might be semi independent from China. All in all, these conflicts are weakening America and Europe, whilst strengthening China's position. The only ones that will survive amd even come out on top will be the Chinks. Unless a black swan slaps them across the face.
>>546034132How exactly is Russia destroyed? They've lost 400k men and sanctions haven't worked as intended. Although other neighbouring countries formerly friendly with Russia now see it as a threat. The real loser is Ukraine.
It's not about winning anymore. The whole situation has devolved into mindless bloodshed. The people of Ukraine chose Europe over Russia, Russia tried their usual tactic of intimidation and terrorism, it exploded in their face, and now we all get to watch drones hit soldiers. It is fun, but winning? There is nothing left to win.
>>546033194Nice try retard, but Ukraine never actually existed. Russia has been fighting thin air (And losing) for the better part of a decade now.
>>546032894>Russia still chilling and using volunteers. Moscow mayor builds new circus for 66 billions rubles. Country is basically in peacetime mode>The Hruckraine is employs state wide programme of mass kidnappings and torture of those who still resist the death sentence after kidnapping, requires at least 100 billions of gibs per year to just just functionWar outcome was contested while hohol volunteers still lived. Now they are all dead, and this is just the forced slaughter of the unwilling hohols, propped up by scumbags living abroad. Russia won long ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBM-EIZKF_Y
>>546035153>lost at the very least half a million of capable men with who knows how many cripples and MIA>lots of people leaving the country, mostly educated with money>businesses closing >total censorship up to the point of burning books>uncontrollable immigration from shitholes like Jeetstan, Uzbekistan and the rest of them to replace the dead slavs>Still has not achieved ANYTHING in 5 yearsIf this is winning to you I don't want to be on your side, pal.If people told me 5 years ago that Ukraine will be bombing Moscow and Petersburg I would've told them that they're insane yet here we are.And don't give me "muh ukraine has it worse" because russia started this shit.
>>546035519None of what you've listed is Russia being destroyed.>"muh ukraine has it worse" because russia started this shit.Who started it is irrelevant here, because Ukraine has come off much worse than Russia.
Dumbest war ever award.
There is still massive corruption in ukraine even after losing millions of their countrymen nobody gives a fuck is the real lol
>>546035588Ukrainians have a free ticket to Europe while Russians are still Russian and are stuck in Russia.
>>546035588There's pretty much no future for Russia. That's what it means by destroyed. No future for Ukraine too but it doesn't change Russia's fate.>Who started it is irrelevant hereBut it is relevant, because one bold manlet retard decided to destroy both of their countries. And he pretty much succeeded.
>>546033106>A Serb who doesn't dick sick RussiaRare
>>546035684> Ukrainians have a free ticket to EuropeIf you are Jewish or have a vagina that is if not get in the fucking van or bribe the meat catcher
>>546035676Meanwhile Russia is a western upright nation with 0 corruption.>inb4 someone posts those Afreican nations comparisons
>>546035588I wouldn't say that a father who kills his entire family and then himself "won" because he shot himself last.
>>546032894they need america's help :)
>>546035776if you guys aren't russian why do you have the same flag
>>546035776I read about AFU veteran, admin of fairly popular hohol war channel in telegram, who deserted a couple of days ago. He paid 10.000$, so no one asked any questions, and repatriated into Israel.
>>546034507Is that why you and all the other nafo troons are forced to come here every day and shill for them in multiple threads per day?
>>546033878>And yet Russia is unable to win, weird.The average Ukrainian soldier is now 50 years old. THD takes time but we're getting there.
>>546035892Good for him weird choice though because they will be getting bombed again also when they close this firing pause
>>546032894Did you ask the Germans?
>>546035992>graph starts at 20
>>546035992Why does chabat Putin wants to kill slaveshits so much?
>>546032894They are about to put a gun to Ukraine in the negotiations that they not only hand over everything east of dnieper, but also europe withdraws nato shit from everywhere to the east of germany so Russia can easily attack them next.Russia won and managed to break the whole reality.
>>546033106>>546033822>>546034017wtf two rare serbs that don't suck off russia
>>546032894What's the win condition?
>>546035892Ive heard that your mothers vagina is open for everyone.
>>546036065Lots and lots of jews moved into Israel from Russia, cursing it, because "they can't live in country what wage war against it's neighbors". Now they still live in Israel and claim what Israel dindu nuffin, and what genocide of palestinians is sacred. KIkes really are rootless and only loyal to their tribe.
>>546036197My guess is they're not ethnic Serbs and live north of the Danube
>>546032894They won WW2. You couldn't even stop Hindus from invading your country.
>>546035814>Europe: PFFT, American's help...
>>546036186Ukrainians are pretty fucking annoying. He's doing the world a favor. All those white niggers do is beg, claim you owe them everything, and also that they're better than you because they're a white ethno-state and your country is filled with Turks and other shitskins, even though their government is completely Jewish, and they are literal CIA cannon fodder.
>>546035786millions dead and the dudes who take the EU billions are andrew tate bussy chasers. https://x.com/Panchenko_X/status/2120212505871925448/photo/1ukraine with no electicity, water, heat in kiev and the last frontline stronghold was demolished.
>>546036554>t. 44 year old unemployed dog-fucking white nigger
>>546036554Good. So pay them reparations, Timmy.
>>546036629>says the Jew lover who would let jews rape his own kids, but PLEASE DON'T TAKE HIS GUNS AWAY!
>>546036554why shouldn't the CIA contain russia?
>>546032894Ukraine and Russia are winning. Half their unemployed young men are dead.
>>546032894win and let all the fun end?
>>546033116And yet, Russians keep being killed and maimed and having their capital and refineries bombed...Are they attacking themselves?
>>546036757>why shouldn't the CIA contain russia?Because it won't work.
>>546036865nahhh that's bs, putin has been talking about the great tragedy of the "russian diaspora" in the ex soviet bloc for decades, he intends to take all the land and the NATO shit is pretext. he knew how ukraine would react after 2014 to generate pretext.
>>546035992>>546036554>RedshadowzReminder this guy rapes dogs.God, why are shills for russia always just the absolute worst "humans".
>>546036998Russia's goal is to become to Europe what America is now. That's been its strategy for 50 years.
>>546037140And how does Russia reigniting nato expansion/support and general russia-hate with their chimpout on Ukraine and you raping dogs play into that "strategy"?
they singlehandedly fought off the full might of NATO lolthey already wonukraine is humiliated and losing support and men each day. they only need to wait
>>546037140>Russia's goal is to become to Europe what America is now.Bullshit,. They want nothing to do with them anymore. All they want is not having missiles stationed in Ukraine and Baltics pointed at them.Other than that, they don't give a fuck about what happens to Europe.
>>546037332>the full might of NATO
>>546037697The fact that NATO ran out of aa missiles, artillery rounds and tanks to send after two years says a lot quite honestly even if they weren't fighting directly.
>>546037671What's funny is their chimpout on Ukraine supposedly over the idea they COULD eventually possibly join nato and get western missiles(on Russia's border ooooo so scary and unacceptable!) led to another formerly neutral nation(ON THEIR BORDER OOOOOOOOO!!!) joining nato.So in usual Russian manner they have to change the goalposts and make excuses that it's actually about land invasion and completely different because of he geography or cope that it doesn't count/matter because they were "already BASICALLY in nato!" hoping you forget about their excuses/narrative with Ukraine.
>>546038392>NATO ran out of aa missiles, artillery rounds and tanks to send after two yearsAnd Russia STILL can't take the land they claim is already theirs or stop their capital from getting bombed?
>>546032894slav genes
>>546038599"ukraine" is not in NATO and it will never be in NATO."ukraine" was sacrificed as a proxy and they will not exist as a united nation once this war is over.Ukraine has no males left and whatever is left of it after all is over, will be turned into a 3rd world shithole full of arabs, niggers and jeets.that means it will NEVER pose a threat to Russia again since it will not have any prospect for a strong nationalism. economic zones don't even have patriotism and that's their future.
>>546038654Drone meta affects us all, sadly.
>>546032894Because they are a failing country thinking they can take on the west and combined economy and technological might of Europe and US, purely retarded.
>>546039801If they’re not winning so much then why are you here seething about it?
>>546036197We don't suck off Russia, that would be Poles, Ukrainians and Balts, etc, historic Russian stormtroopers.
Anyways, Russia is sadly winning. 140 million people, successful project, EU minorities hate their own handlers, they burn, rape and loot, Russian ones die for Russia in Ukraine, GG, wp, Russian third worldism beat EU third worldism.They'll probably reach ex-USSR borders in a few decades,
>>546040368is it better to be a russian stormtrooper or an ottoman stormtrooper?
>>546032894>Are we there yet Are we there yet Are we there yet Ar-Because the talks and thus war are still ongoing.
>>546033194
>>546034008>1 trillionRussians are losing so bad they just have to make up a cope lie.
>>546032894If Ukrainians are stupid enough to think they can win war against Russia then thats fine by me, just stop stealing money from everyone you scumbag Zelensky.
>>546043057Why can't Russia win?
>>546038843>Ukraine has no males left>it will NEVER pose a threat to RussiaAnd yet, Russians continue to be maimed and killed in droves and have their refineries and capital bombed.>>546040254If they're not losing why are you here seething about it?
>>546043139>cukyNice ID fag
>>546032894Serious answer.Political reasons: don't want to engage in the full mobilization nessicary to take Ukraine using troops. They are relying mostly on volunteers and mercs. Cultural/Historical reasons: Don't want to just decapitate anything in Ukraine that is "Dual use" because they view Ukrainians as misguided Russians who have been brainwashed by Galician Nazis and they think once the war is over, Ukrainians will become Pro-Russia again.Material reasons: Not enough troops to take what they want using small arms/ground forces, no real counter to Drones yet, bad communication and buck passing between officers, constantly fucking up their communication through banning shit like Telegram and using Starlink then getting cut off.
>>546043139>the west is collapsing >russia is not winning Don’t miss the forest for the trees
>>546043057Yeah, I'm sure russia can win, just give them 5 years more, 10 tops.
>>546040995>OttomanWhat are we gonna talk next, ancient Romans?Poles were operating on direct Moscow orders just 35 years ago, ready to kill anyone they told them to during the cold war, armed Vietnam, entered Prague because Russians told them to, took German lands because Stalin handed them over to communist Poland.Anyways, all of that is irrelevant, Russia's gonna border Germany in 30 years.
>>546043506>Poles were operating on direct Moscow orders just 35 years ago, ready to kill anyone they told them to during the cold war, armed Vietnam, entered Prague because Russians told them to, took German lands because Stalin handed them over to communist Poland.No issue with that btw, they knew where the wind was blowing, Russia is gonna be the only European power again and we don't need to play heroes.
>>546035776The ukrainians are good labor compared to the islam turks etc fags your country tends to coddle as your white birthrate is below replacement
>>546043081Why can't Ukraine?>>54604348920 million people fled Ukraine
