Their peace plan litterrally is since Russia can not win on the battlefield we can at least pressure Zelensky into giving Putin a symbolic victory
>>546036801What if Putin wants Ukraine [and more]?
>>546036981There's no question about that. And Trump is helping him.
>>546037218So Trump wants to rule the Americas and let Europe for Russia to rule, like two bro nations?
>>546036981the more globohomo causes a problem with this, the moar of ukraine oblast will return to mother Russiacope seethe and dilate, plebbit trannyglobohomo has no path to victory here, which is why it needs ww3 to distract you same as globohomo Poland needed to distract you from its coup attempt with a mass shooting
*pro russian federation delegation = pro ukrainians
>>546036801Ukraine can't win either. But it's in a much weaker position. Plus there's the whole issue where they started the war by carpet bombing civilians who refused to play along with their little coup.
>>546036801Doesn't seem that either side wants to be out of the war anyway. Or at least not on terms each side wants.I would not Putin and co' to betray any sort of treaties in the future either way.
>>546036801too bad miga no longer has any cards so they can't do shit, I'm sure the next president will be pro Ukraine again or at least not pro r*ssia
>>546036801They were always openly pro r*ssia
>>546037303Russia is a shithole and can't rule itself and Trump is a lame duck who will be gone. Next President will be Jon Ossoff.
>>546038135>the whole issue where they started the war by carpet bombing civilians who refused to play along with their little coup.QRD? I dont remember this.
>>546037303Yes. Are you not paying attention?
>>546038368
>>546038135I thought the Russians attempted a failed invasion. Silly me.
>>546038246next president will be pro Israel as always
check out my pace plan
>>546038453Oh that. Sure it was an accident and only 15 or so were killed. Its not like the USA or Russia is any better in that regard when fighting their own wars. The way you worded it you were making it sound like they are intentionally strafing a crowd of civilians.
>>546038135ukraine has already won in their minds
>>546038838> oh that's nothingnafo newfag and his great deflection skills
>>546038368When the US-backed coup kicked out the legitimate Ukrainian government and replaced them with the Zelensky regime, the ethnic-Russian areas in the East refused to recognize the new, illegitimate government. So they sent in the Azov unit and other paramilitaries to just shell civilians.>>546038573Yeah, man. Ukraine and NATO are doing just fine now that they've been bled dry of their men and massive stockpiles of arms. Surely there's not a single Russian left on Ukrainian territory at this point given Ukraine and NATO's massive effort and expenditures.
>>546038622my peaceplan is that europe take the european part of russia until the ural mountains, and china takes the rest. after all it is a multipolar world now, and russia has clearly demonstrated that they dont have the weight to be one. the consequences are logical and understandable, and can't be avoided.
>>546039409The hate for Russia that your average Europoor harbors is fascinating to me. You've committed economic and cultural suicide, and you're not going to be happy as long as a White, Christian nation exists near you that absolutely refuses to obliterate its own people, culture, future, and history the way you have.
>>546039409The only "weight" you danebögs have is in the vaginal flaps of your pm
>>546036801The deal is Poland's nextponextponextponext or it's WW3.
>>546036801>MAGA is...MAGA, also known as MIGA, is dead.
>>546039524Mind your business mutt. We don't need your nigger-worshiping jew-nation meddling in our affairs. Also, we are more white than you, and I wish we had killed you all at Normandy.
>>546039571I am talking about the weight of Europe chink.
>>546039703They can still fuck up a lot more shit on their way out just watch
>>546039797Stick to speaking about your pooninsula muhammet
>>546036801>Russia cannot win on the battlefield Russia is quite literally winning on the battlefield
>>546040045It's winning too slowly, environmentally unsoundly and illegally, so it doesn't count
>>546038838They were laughing about "blowing air conditioners" as well.
>>546039222>US puppet government is illegitimate>Russian puppet government is legitimate and morally righteouscurious how'd Ukraine end up such a corrupt, impoverished shithole despite spend the entirety of its history up until the euromaidan under Russia's vassalage. Curious how if you are to open up a map of Europe's HDI, you'll see a perfectly clear outline of the former russian empire/USSR. Curious indeed.
>>546038902Anon how many civilians do you think your troops have accidentality killed in the current war? I'll wager its more than 15 yes? >>546039222Bro thinks you have a military standoff with unarmed civvies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_the_Luhansk_border_baseThere was firefights you muppet, do you think the pro-seperatists were shooting back with harsh words? :D
>>546038368its nuts that normies dont know about globohomo kiev's 8 year indiscriminate bombing campaign against the eastern provincesthere's a reason Crimea voted (yes, voted, not forced at gunpoint, VOTED) to join Russiathey knew Kiev would bomb themthe eastern provinces, not so much, because they seceded, declared independence, and then they got bombed for it until they changed their minds and asked to be part of Russia after all
>>546036801Genuinely though, a good relationship with Russia as a counterbalance to China is a good thing. It's like becoming friendly China in the 70s.
>>546039222>When the US-backed coup kicked out the legitimate Ukrainian government and replaced them with the Zelensky regime, the ethnic-Russian areas in the East refused to recognize the new, illegitimate government. So they sent in the Azov unit and other paramilitaries to just shell civilians.truth
>>546040045They're quite literally not. They've been losing territory and trading men for drones.
>>546039742>mind your business, I'm perfectly comfortable being a globohomo shillbot>there's no way they'd cleanse people like me, I support them, after all!
>>546041310But, anon, that was a huge mistake.
I don't know who maga, but I tell tou, I'll side with Russia over ukraine because I am Not about to get West and Civilization destroyed when it can't win over some idiots and eu military or any othe project that is Doomed to fail due to stoopedity of prolonged irrational errors.Anyone who wants to be a bigger Civilization patriot can go fuck themselves, and destroy it themselves. I sure ad won't but will watch perfectly OK if it's all ruined. Go wear fucking ukraine ribbons while we can't build Data Center's, source shit for CPUs ,keep order snd control on the streets soon... can't build ships, planes, trains, refineries quickly enough, NPP which are Important... Mantain the grid we have, have you heard of the transporters issue and sourcing those? How about cables and copper... how about shipping routes Participation, forget full sole control now even of the North. When I warned in detail about it all hese fuckers paraded as refined leaders and experts... shat my life up, now they want to parade still? Fuck You. Fuck your ukraine and ribbons and agendas. STFU.
>>546036801Russia hasn't been able to win for coming up 5 years. They won't do it tomorrow either. It is pretty telling that their little cock sleeve is telling defenders to stop their hits on invaders' infrastructure that support the invasion. He's a weak man with no control of his nation or even his own faculties.
>>546041354>They've been losing territory What part of Russia has Ukraine claimed?
Russia can have that filthy usless ukraine, they already took rhe NEON anyway. I rather make a deal that tey sell us the Neon at least and not just send shit to China next two decades! I am rooting for Russian victory in ukraine, lol, seethe.
>>546041400How? The USSR isn't around anymore
>>546036801>kike trump got spooked over his retard nigger oil war in iran and decided to get all comfy with russia to bring prices downamericans are such kikes it's unreal
>>546037303Russia has all of two decent cities and the rest of the entire nation is a complete shithole
>>546041444Wait, you finally admit your festering disease never owned a speck of Ukrainian clay? Claims have never mattered in the slightest btw. As per invaders 1994 border deal they were 100% fine with Ukraine.
>>546041414They took the Neon and other three key rare gases which we lack to make CPUs. For one.Let alone all else which I don't care ro list in a fucking pol book. Did you see China?I shit on your opinions and analysis, take that to nato ukraine usless fucks now. They can consider it, larp with ursula with ribbons, and pretend it's a Win while we have no Resource Access for crucial production on which survival depends.Be happy Russians will most likely not out of love but sanity if we are sane sell i to us, eventually... so theyre not left alone with China.And no, they won't divorce those two, no for a long long while.Did I tell you your opinion is Shit, it is. Form a better one based on Facts and Reality.
>>546041240>there's a reason Crimea voted (yes, voted, not forced at gunpoint, VOTED) to join RussiaOh, you mean WHEN THEY WERE OCCUPIED BY ARMED "LITTLE GREEN MEN" on March 14th 2014??I'm sure that was an entirely above board election with quality oversight taking place, just as much as I'm sure that Putins own opinion polls and voter history are ENTRIRELY legitimate. I'm not even particularly fussed either way with the whole conflict, but the sheer cope that some of you mad bastards come out with is ridiculous. Do you even read what you type?
>>546041612clueless retard
>>546041620In hindsight that deal was fucking tereible. Ukraine traded the entire soviet nuclear arsenal atored there for security guarentees that Russia had no intention of protecting
>>546041620>your festering disease never owned a speck of Ukrainian clayLol of course not Ukraine is run by Jews just like the US
>>546041704angloid are such fucking demonic scumits going to be funny watching you stupid tea sipping motherfuckers getting droned for years, its coming - you asked for it, don't cry about it.
>>546041704the eastern region of ukraine (including crimea) have been largely on russia's side because they were most prosperous during the soviet unionthese were once booming industrial hubs that provided plenty of work to the people, and ever since then they've seen nothing but decaycrimea was the soviet union's hollywood, now look at it (i guess like today's actual hollywood)
>>546041620>y-you never owned a speck of it!>let's nevermind about the whole part about Russia beginning therelook at this fag fight for the khazar's endeavor to retake khazaria
>>546041829Crimea is a complete shithole that was only marginally held up by toruists after Russia occupied it. They couldnt even be bothered to build new infastructure before there retarded invasion
>>546041621>They took the Neon and other three key rare gases which we lack to make CPUs. You never owned this nation. Your kids will know what you did while this genocide of Ukrainian women and children was happening. As with your other hero; იოსებ ბესარიონის ძე ჯუღაშვილი Your nation will live in infamy.
>>546041755The guarantees were under the condition of keeping neutral status. But then hohols squandered it and started to participate in foreign wars.Meanwhile, USA themselves rejected the budapest memorandum. Why everyone else should abide to it?
>>546036801They murdered my relatives in the USSR.
>>546036801>Maga got openly pro RussiaIn 2015.>https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals
>>546041888You couldnt even point to where Khazaria would be on a map you dumb fuck american
>>546041704look at this seethe from the bot when someone posts something other than what his instructions allow for>they voted wronglook at this shill get all assmad that a vote didnt go the jewish banker's way and his instructions tell him to chimp out about this
>>546039524>Russia simp pretending to bemoan the destruction of people, culture, future, and historymost self-aware propaganda bot
>>546038902You kill more children by Russian parenting. Put down the bottle, Ivan.
>>546041919
>>546041919you should see how fucked these former republics are still even having gained their 'independence' thirty years ago; armenia has no problems with russia, but this place is fucking depressing compared to the beauty it once hadthis place had outdoor swimming pools in the middle of nowhere and cable cars around the mountains, now it barely has a functional train station network from its two only citiesrussia's absolutely kiked now as well and there's no defending it, but if you truly knew how much damage the collapse of the soviet union did to the entire region, you'd fully understand why so many towns and cities are just nothing but misery and decaycrimea in comparison is a dream
>>546041967This is the problem with immigration. They always bring their baggage with them
>>546041310Actually a good relationship with china as a counterbalance to Russia and the US is a good thing.
>>546042078>a cheap facade plastered over decrepit soviet construction Excellent metaphor. You really are a nation of poets.
>>546041967Were your family jews? Because the jews did a lot of murdering and finally got a reverse uno with Stalin.
>>546036801>ukraine is actually winning>Therefore give us more free shit LolLmaoEvery single Eu flag is some ookie seething in some euro cubbyhole
>>546041964Why aren't you in the frontline little coward? I want to see your limbs torn limb from limb by an explosive charge. And so does this kike bitch, who certainly isn't doing the invading.
>>546041310>>546042142>>546042142Russia is already effectively influenced by China and The US won't even exist in 50 years
>>546041964Why is everything you russians say a blatant lie? You broke the peace treaty. You never had any intention of honoring it. In fact there is not a single agreement in all of russia's history that it has not broken. Putin always wanted to conquer Ukraine. He would have conquered Baltics if they were not protected by NATO. You are nothing but terrorist thieving psychopath niggers.
>>546042155Is the crimean bridge a cheap facade?Here's for comparision the bridge in Kiev that is being built for 30 years.
>>546041818It's weird you have an American flag but the way you construct your sentences and your grammatical errors are very Russian. What's up with that?
>>546041818Standard cant think of a valid reply so you just come out with some off-topic horseshit. >>546041829>these were once booming industrial hubs that provided plenty of work to the people, and ever since then they've seen nothing but decayYeah, but you're implying that's because of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, when its not, given that it happened to ALL of Europe's industrialised areas (with few exceptions) that didn't move on the higher tech production as we offshored all basic production to cheaper workforces in the Far East. Its irrelevant that they were better off in the Soviet Union in the early 80's as that nation was in critical decline by that point, spending above 1/5th of their economy on the military to keep pace with the West. There was no situation where they were going to come through the 90's and early 2000's without some decline.
>>546042240>jewnited states of israel does everything it can to collapse the ussr>finally works>entire nations just gone into disarray for decades>JewSA starts buying up the land and its influence as it always intended to>not wanting this to happen at your borders is apparently a bad thinglook at it from the other side nigger
>>546042119I am aware how bad the collapse was. Probably one of the worsts of all time. It isnt even an issue that can be fixed politically because of the ingrained corruption. I feel sorry for Armenia bros. Such rich history only to be reduced to this. Let alone Russia didnt even resolve any of the issues with Azerbajan so now it is all fucked up
>>546042025Bro cant even form a coherent reply, just throw buzzword based non-sequiturs.
>>546036801Artiom you fucking cowards stop leeching gibs in Shitaly go back to your god forsaken russian shithole, join the army and eat a drone.Fucking nigger.
>>546042142A good relationship with the UK is a good counterbalance to continentals
>>546041444Are you seriously claiming to extrapolate Russian victory from territorial losses at high casualties because Ukraine hasn't pushed them back into Russia? That's the win condition for Ukraine. You're claiming Russia is winning because Ukraine hasn't won yet.
>>546042240Hohols broke the neutral status that was part of their declaration of independence. Without that status, the whole regional security structure has to be reviewed. The reviewing process is happening right now.
Why would Ukraine want peace? They just hit a new record.2980 dead ziggers in a day.
>>546036801wtf? we need to send chuds to die in russia, kill two birds with one stone. hopefully the next democrat president will send all our nazis to die over there
>>546041491The CCP is, and a much bigger threat than the USSR.
>>546042442But what part of Russia has Ukraine successfully taken?
>>546042422JIDF at least tried, you guys are pathetic.
>>546042370>the other sideThe what? USSR collapsed on its own because it was always an impossibility. Everyone who could fucked off immediately after, including Ukraine. Because anything is better than being ruled by russians. Nobody wants the soviet union back except for russian niggers because they hate freedom and prosperity.
>>546042545Threat to who?
>>546042550The lives of a half million men.
>>546042469"Neutrality" is the most ambiguous thing I've ever heard. Russia can basically just invade them whenever they want and say Ukraine wasn't neutral enough
>>546036981He can have it. Not my problem. At least white people will have rights again in Germany when he takes it from the Jews.
>>546042307the soviet union was the west's only real competitor, the systematic industrial collapse that followed is a direct result of no longer needing to maintain that competitive stance and instead just sell everything of for mass profit, and look at the global consequences; shit's fuckedironically the one nation that really pulled itself through it was china, had its shit industrial collapse in the 90s to early 2000s and rose up from it, genuinely impressive how they did it but again short sighted kikery from the west prioritised profit over true development and competition >>546042401it's insanely depressing now because in the past year the gov has been selling itself off to the EU more and more, now the place is riddled with africans and jeets, and all the history and architecture we had before is being demolished and replaced with globalist glass we had identity before, even in the soviet union the buildings were built with armenian stone, and featured armenian culture on them; despite what people say about the USSR and how it removed identity, we had MORE care for culture and identity, even religion then, than now
>>546042142Absolutely. There is nothing to be gained aligning yourself with America and Russia
>>546042570>USSR collapsed on its own because it was always an impossibility.then i guess there was truly no need for the cold war at all if it was inevitable, no? why did the US spend billions and decades to combat the USSR economically if a collapse was a mere matter of time?
>>546042599It's not really ambiguous. If you're bordering child murdering rapists, you better have nuclear protection.
>>546038838Yeah and arresting a kid who was stabbed and letting him die was also an accident
>>546042701You lot give Israelis a pass for worse, whats the difference?
>>546042550They took kursk for 7 or 8 months. Which is fairly embarrassing for russia
>>546042621>the soviet union was the west's only real competitorActually that was Nazi Germany and Japan. Which the kiked US and USSR teamed up destroy because they are both controlled by jews
>>546042570Basically this. Nobody wants to be a backwater shithole satellite state to russia. And anybody who visited russia before (outside of the 3 main big cities) knows that it's a subsaharan african tier shithole
>>546042550retard
>>546042761You would think they would still be holding if they were winning though
>>546042621It is bizarre how necessary the USSR was and yet how Putin's retarded rwstoration vision is like the complete opposite
>>546036801It's been obvious for a while now that Trump isn't likely to get a peace treaty. Anyone who knows anything about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan knows that his playbook is basically to cut one party out of the negotiations and then surrender on their behalf. In Afghanistan's case, it was the Afghan government. They weren't even a party to the Doha accord, if you can believe that. Trump's been trying to do that for Ukraine from the start, but it turns out that Ukraine actually can sustain the war, more or less, without the US. Anyway, Trump isn't a serious political actor. He's just going to try to get Ukraine to surrender, they're going to refuse, and all that'll be accomplished is giving Russia a bit more space to rest troops, resupply them, and plan the next assaults.
>>546042757Funny part is, you can say that about both Putin and Trump and the end result stays the same. Child rapists are moving to Israel en masse.
>>546036801
>>546041197>but what about YOUnice try, five eyes. If all you’re going to do is deflect then there is no conversation to be had
>>546042838Ukraine head of state if a Jew so Trump is ultimately subservient to him just like Mexico Israel and Argentina
>>546042904lol the entire government is compromised by israel how is this news? what ACE investigator did they have on this one?
>>546042948That theory unfortunately fails because Trump has obstructed Ukraine at every point since taking office.
>>546038246You can say "Russia" here, nigger.
>>546042948You are so fucking stupid. I dont know how you manage to function in life
>>546042768>amerimutt history educationdisgusting, the nazis invaded the western regions of ussr in a desperate bid to take the region's natural resources >>546042821because putin doesn't want to restore it, he's still part of a specific group desperate to cling to their power gained from the ussr's collapse, and they know a genuine restoration of the ussr would mean they'd be lynched in the streets for what they did for decadesinstead of him wanting to restore the ussr, it's just a desperate bid to regain the influence and not let it go to the enemy: the US
>>546036801>Their peace plan litterrally is since Russia can not win on the battlefield we can at least pressure Zelensky into giving Putin a symbolic victoryThen why demand a ceasefire from Russia?
>>546042587The US. Obviously. Did you think I was some disinterested 3rd party who cares about random brown shitholes?
>>546042545Yeah but thats now. It wasnt the case when the ussr fell. Weve been just costing for a while now
>>546038838Honestly at this point whenever you guys downplay, deflect, and do whataboutism on some inconvenient fact on your side, it basically confirms the claim to be true. The more objectively bad it looks for Ukraine and zoggies, the more ridiculous your types will argue.
>>546042987He didn't the US has been sending them money his entire time in officee
>>546039571When SHTF you faggots will be rounded up and taken behind the sauna.
>>546039222Checked
>>546042818I could say the same thing about some of the territory russia lost this year. All I know is Ukraine is up to 2980 kills in a day so far, they're setting new records.
>>546042999>The axis and allies never actually existed
Total nafonigger death, get a new hobby since you pussies aren't willing to actually fight and die for the shit you spam on /pol/
>>546042999>instead of him wanting to restore the ussr, it's just a desperate bid to regain the influence and not let it go to the enemy: the USI think some of it probably is imperial revanchism, but even after all these years I'm still unsatisfied with all the answers for why Russia may have done what it did. The best I can resolve Putin's motivations is some combination of legacy and domestic-facing politics... plus historic institutional errors in judgment. Why the war continues is a little bit clearer to me (they'll kill him if he shows weakness) but I don't think we'll ever know for sure exactly why it started.
>>546043086Your facts are inaccurate. It's simply untrue. Not a single dime has crossed any bill congress has signed since Trump took office.
>>546041197>Anon how many civilians do you think your troops have accidentality killed in the current war? I'll wager its more than 15 yes? Very few compared to the mass slaughter enacted by the United States and Israel, as well European states who assist Israel with logistics, air forces, and supplies. And dang, dont get me started on the UK. In fact in relation to other conflicts, the Ukraine-Russia war has been pretty low with civilian casualties.You and the whole Ukraine conflict are a part of ZOG and Jewish geopolitical machinations. You don't get to point fingers at anyone else for civilian deaths. Especially as a Anglo, I mean come on, bud.
>>546042888Yes, what about THEM? when he's giving off about Ukraine killing some civilians who where in buildings occupied by armed separatists then you would expect his own country to be taking a moral high ground, but then their own record of civilian deaths in this current war hasn't exactly been stellar has it? You can't gripe about a handful of civvie deaths when your country, over the last 4 years has killed an estimated 17,900 civilians, and wounded another 57,000 civvies. You're willing to give the Russia guy a pass on "whataboutism" yet their track record recently has been far worse.
>>546041197>There was firefights *There were firefights
>>546042600my goy, half of Israel speaks russian
>>546043309https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2026/09/25/trump-administration-obligates-307m-for-military-aid-to-ukraine/
>>546041978shut up, jew
>>546043462I accept your concession, amerimutt
>>546043309https://www.csis.org/analysis/trump-sends-weapons-ukraine-numbers
>>546036801Bullshit, the peace plan is to just get peace and let you two continue to fight eachother withwords rather than by wasting millions of men and billions in material.Symbolism is just that: Symbolic.Both sides will pretend to have won regardless of what the terms are, so grow up and stop whining about meaningless symbolism.
>>546039524Russians are not white, they're mongoloids and their culture is just European imports (Byzantine church, Greek orthodoxism and Western architecture). The only original stuff they have is those gingerbread churches, but they could have found inspiration for those from Disneyland
>>546042404look at these bots act like they dont understand that they are working for the jewish central banking cartels
>>546042992I think I'd rather watch my language, migger
>>546043526That has literally been all bought and paid for by the EU you fucking retard
>>546042570>USSR collapsed on its ownshillposts just about always discard reality
>>546036801US is doing this behind the scenes stuff where they don't want Russia to give Iran nuclear weapons. Russia could, Russia could also start using Iran as a proxy to sink US ships. Ukraine is an US proxy to hurt Russia and to cuck and dominate their weak European bitches.
>>546043401You might note that not once did I suggest that the UK or the US were not guilty of the same thing? At the same time I wasn't the one putting forward the suggestion that Russia had to come in to save the poor innocent civilians of Ukraine, while at the same time ignoring Russia having a horrendous record of wounding and killing them over the last 4 years.
>>546043616I wish
>>546043657Your jaw must hurt from all that kike cock you have been taking
>>546043401>very few comparedlol>>546043040
>>546039657Next is Moscow
>>546043086I think the Democrats locked that in, and he hasn't bent his ass over as much as he could. There's likely a little more going on behind the scenes.
>>546042782>MaratMountain troll flooding russian and the result of all the dirt on the streets is complaining about dirt in the streets. Im surprised poles let that chernozhopy in.
>>546043864Trump would run into traffic if a Jew told him too it's really that simple
>>546043864It's going to suck when we actually get resistance in the iran war because of it..
>>546037303he wants kickbacks from russia or ycraine. he only cares about enriching himself and his family. russia is dangling the keys in front of him.
>>546043927Well that part is simple but different factions of jews wanting different things. Man to get your hands on the Apple and Google surveillance databases...every machination of the jew, all there for unjewed LLMs to filter through...
EU is going to look seriously cool on map when we expand into Canada and EU.
>>546036801most people who supported Trump aren't going to speak english anymore.. to do so just gets them in trouble with the communists and the street enforcers and all the latin american gangs that Donald Trump is scared of removing from our communities.. speaking English is a stupid thing to do, when it is also true that the WH doesn't really have people's back.. they do anything they want here, especially the chinese mil agents.. they don't give a single fuck about Donald Trump.. Einstein liked to speak German when he was at Princeton because he said it was a form of privacy.. Mark Twain said the same thing, though he never completed his study of the German language, saying it was actually too hard to learn, and had single words that were several lines long on paper. nevertheless though, it is probably time to do that.. no supporter of Donald Trump wants to end up like the dead Irainian protestors that Trump turned his back on, and left to die without any support.. you too, will have equally as little support from Donald Trump. Support is the very last thing he's ever going to send.. he's surrendering a big section of this country, you're all just too stupid to see it happening.. but you could be given a little guided tour if you wanted one... but you'll have to speak Russian.. because we don't speak english here anymore.. if you don't speak Russian, then, you must not be serious about the preservation of individual liberty, or individual legal rights, in this country.. english is the language of lawfare, the language of the newspapers, the language in which the enemy demonstrates control of the people.. it is the language of illegitimate laws and a foreign controlled electoral process
>>546042599Neutrality means not being a part of any alliance. It's well-defined.
>>546044037EUphiles are worse than miggers and maybe even Sinophiles.
>>546041818They always cry
>>546043019China has been a threat since Korea at least, and we gave them our industry, what elevated us to superpower status in the first place, because that would stop them being communist or something. It was a monumentally stupid thing to do, and likely intentionally givien (((kissinger))) was involved.
>>546044085And they seem to upheld that. They never joined NATO.
>>546044200I agree 100%. They were never the big bad until the ussr fell though
>>546041727
>>546044110>NOOOO YOU CANT BE CLOSER TO THE NATIONS FROM WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS CAME FROMReminder Alberta will never vote to leave, faggot
>>546042078
>>546044380The EU is a plutocrat bureaucracy and you're drastically more of a traitor than the Albertans who wanted self determination. Go seek our healthcare, you need it.
What's orange nigger's plan here? Is he trying to appease putin hoping both the us and russia can circle china?
>>546042442You seem to think stating things in a frantic tone is the same as refuting them.>In order to win, Ukraine has to kick out the invaders >Ukraine can't kick out the invadersErgo, yeah, Ukraine is losing and Russia is winning by continuing to hold the territory they invaded Ukraine and now occupy.This isn't rocket appliances.
>>546044458plan?
>>546042469Kek
>>546044458That would be based but the democrats won so it's never happeing
>>546044458No no. He is super close to "Chyna". You dont understand his 4d chess
>>546038135>Plus there's the whole issue where they started the war by carpet bombing civiliansI have to give it to Russians shills for being so determined. Repeating horseshit for the millionth time doesn't make it any more true but hats off for making imbeciles on the internet believe it. And then useful idiots go around repeating it some more until millions of morons believe it. Such is life.
>>546044490No, it's basic math. If a train is 100 miles away from Chicago and is traveling away from Chicago at 10 miles per hour, how long will it take the train to reach Chicago?
>>546042838>but it turns out that Ukraine actually can sustain the warthis was never a possibility and only is a thing because of the US & EU, numbnuts
>>546043243>The best I can resolve Putin's motivations is some combination of legacy and domestic-facing politics... plus historic institutional errors in judgment.ignoring the elephant in the room
>>546043523>state stupid logical fallacies>declare victoryI suppose that's a big win there pal....real, in your own mind
>>546044697globohomo bots live in an alternate reality that doesnt overlap much with akshual reality
>>546044849You have literally no argument
wow another pointless talk where neither side backs down on a single thing, who could have seen it coming. it's only happened like fifty times before.
>>546044707>U-Ukraine is WINNING!this is the dumbest shill line that doesnt overlap with reality at allnafo troons are stupid
>>546044805How mamy rubles a month do you get paid?
>>546044965look at this projection cope
>>546044994that's right, nafo troonstay the fuck away from substantive postingyou have no foothold there whatsoever
>>546038838Kiev had been shelling eastern Ukraine for decades.
>>546038246Unfortunately for Ukraine, that's completely not the case and Trump does indeed hold all the cards on this. The Democrat Congress can't do shit against Trump's veto and a Republican filibuster just like Republicans couldn't pass any legislation these past two years. Foreign policy is almost entirely controlled by the Executive so these midterms don't change a thing in terms of the US's posture towards Russia and Ukraine. Trump has even withheld previously approved Congressional aid and he can't even be sued over that because no one has standing.
>>546044951Zigger shills live in an alternate reality where their shilling isn't entirely obvious to anyone with an IQ above 90. Congrats on getting the retards on your side Ivan.
>>546037218take your meds tranny lmao holy shit it really is unbelievable what you soulless dregs espouse
>>546044994Mate why do you want to die for Ukraine?
>>546044986>taking territory isn't winningCool story, bro.
>>546045336>the things my plebbit admins tell me are facts, chud
>>546045438>Ukraine is TAKING territory!only in the minds of globohomo shillbotsthis is just pathetic cope to just state the opposite of whatever reality is
>>546045462>hurr durr i just say reddit then i dont have to address arguments and facts im smart
>>546045492The reality is that this is one of the biggest embarrassments in military history and you're a pathetic drunken faggot trying to pay his 20% APR mortgage with printed rubles.
>>546044994Why do you ask, you looking for job opportunities?
>>546042294There is literally and objectively NOTHING indicating I am "Russian", you fucking NAFOID pissant.
>>546045548>hurr durr if I lie and get called out I can just make fun of it and I'm in the clear!
>>546036801fake warru-a make political decision (they call it like that) to almost never attack any important targets in uaIran destroyed all their enemies factories etc by using cheap old ballistic. From 1-3 tries. There's literally HUGE ua factories on ru border which still works after 5 yearssingle drone can destroy them
>>546045558>The reality is that this is one of the biggest embarrassments in military historywhatever you need to tell yourself to cope with reality, bubbut the rest of us that arent globohomo bots are going to recognize that you're full of shit
>>546036801Then you too suck russia cock.
>>546036801Before this war ends Russia will have everything east of the Dnipro river.
>>546038573Silly you indeed, faggot.
>>546045760>nonsensical buzzwords blatheringEven your premise is retarded. Trying to steal land from a sovereign European nation is the globohomo in this case.
>>546039222>US-backed coup kicked out the legitimate Ukrainian government and replaced them with the Zelensky regime
>>546036801It's called ending conflict by allowing both sides to exit with dignity. This is how the Cuban missile crisis was resolved and why the game Fallout didn't happen IRL. This is a good thing, and you are a Russophobic NPC who believes whatever the media tells you.
>>546045336Unironically most pro-russians look like this.Funnily enough, most russians look like this too; just white.
>>546045210Where "decades" = since 2014 and a bunch of armed little green men had turned up in the country. Any country would react the same way.
>>546036801>> Didn't realize the last 2 years of Trump cutting supplies, weapons, & being pro Russia LOL LMAO
>>546046589K E K E K E K E K
>>546046177>Ukraine>a sovereign European nation>European>sovereignback to plebbit with your dumbshit
>>546046347the Cuban missile crisis was a triumph for the US an absolute humiliation for the USSR, what the hell dignity are you talking about?
>>546047269Russian child killers always think they won if they're not caught the same day. Like niggers, they live in permanent today time.
>>546047258>retarded HIVan keeps spewing buzzwords while saying nothingThis isn't going to convince anyone of anything nigger. You're just making your side look moronic.
>>546038076>the Ukrianian side is nazis>they look like a bunch of jewslol
