>becomes president >Sends criminals to jail >Now the safest country in the western hemisphere >0 countries attempt to replicate this Why?
cuz ur country is literally cooked best u can hope for is controlled opposition like drumpf
>>546046362>>0 countries attempt to replicate thisThat's false, there were Latinx countries who where very explicitly or implicitly trying to emulate El Salvador, like Ecuador and to some degree Honduras.It didn't work with them, Ecuador actually got worse.
>>546046362i wonder if it has to do with the fact barely anyone lives in the country and is also tiny
>>546046362The man who mindbroken Mexico. How fo they feel knowing that their former colonies manage to get their shit done years before their high crime rate going extinct country did ?
Ecuadorians hate Correa for being a lefty, he was self admitted socialist but when he was president, Ecuador was one of the safest countries in Latin America, after he left and nothing but right wing presidents came after him, the security issue just become worse and worse.He was even a chud by todays standards being very openly catholic and against gay marriage.
>>546046366Sheinbaum is delusional about it. Bitch says we have reduced homicides by half. They hide stats, modify them as victories, URSS levels of dementia.
>thread about El Salvador>mexicans seething every time
>>546046367ok i looked it upthis "socialist" president is just like any other>silenced and arrested independent private reporters>opened up its own reporting channel and news calling it "state news">spent more money than he had on social stuff>refused to pay international debts leading to other countries stopping trusting equador>spent the retirement savings of the population because he ran out of money and he was desperate because his term is nearly at its limit, he has to choose a successor>open up the borders to everyone (lmao), you don't need a passport, no visa. just get in and do criminal shit, you will blame it on the next president after all>be friends with CHavez and Maduro>actually defend the Honduras dictatorshipyup no wonder the mexican loves himcriminals love criminals
>>546046370>>silenced and arrested independent private reportersSource?>opened up its own reporting channel and news calling it "state news">Thats le bad, also please look at these reports from the BBC, France 24 and DW about why is bad to not pay the IMF.>refused to pay international debts leading to other countries stopping trusting equadorHe actually got Chinese loans without any issues, but Chinese loans bad, IMF loans good.>spent the retirement savings of the population because he ran out of money and he was desperate because his term is nearly at its limit, he has to choose a successorSource>open up the borders to everyone (lmao), you don't need a passport, no visa. just get in and do criminal shit, you will blame it on the next president after all>Gang violence literally gets worse every year under right wing presidents but is always the fault of the lefty lets go more right wing, it keeps getting worse, lets just go more right wingAnd the cripple president and Noboa arent criminals? Lmao
>>546046370>actually defend the Honduras dictatorshipRoberto Micheletti?
>>546046362Salvadorans managed to channel their third world energy into efficient chudism. It's hard to replicate.
>>546046362well it requires a dictator and then the whole thing will come tumbling down eventually, as is always the case.
>>546046362we did it before he did it
>>546046371>Source?https://www.reuters.com/article/world/journalist-flees-ecuador-to-evade-prison-sentence-idUSTRE77S5AI/just Google it dude. It isn't hard if you set dates between 2006 and 2014 or whatever his terms were >He actually got Chinese loans without any issuesah yes. So great to only have 1 country that trusts you. Imagine being so moronic that you think relying on 1 country is goodDo you even know what diversification is? Also the Chinese funded hydro power plant is full of issues and has NEVER operated at full capacity or even near that>SourceAgain. One google search awayhttps://elpais.com/internacional/2017/07/14/america/1499989552_044307.html>And the cripple president and Noboa arent criminals? Lmaoagain with the pointing fingers. Dude one crime doesn't justify anotheralso where is your source for calling the current president criminal? Mexicans be mexicans
>>546046362>arab gets presidency>immediately a dictator>arrests everyone he doesnt like>invades his neighborsyou cant escape it
>>546046362Ecuador did and it's failing
>>546046362Actually they're fudging numbers. The real numbers are probably about 50% higher. It's the safest in Central America but not in the hemisphere
>>546046377>killing criminals is dictatorshipno its based, cool and democratichaiti is the same as gaza they kidnapped salvadorans
For some reason, crony socialists like freeing criminals, letting criminals run wild. I have no clue why. It's just what they do everywhere and they will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way.It feels like the strangest unforced error because leftism/socialism doesn't NEED to include criminal sympathy by default. It could just do everything else without the stigma of being known as the pro criminality/violence lot.The governor of CA just commuted the sentence of every single person on death row on his way out and it makes no sense. Why? These are guys that ate and raped little kids.
>>546046364The media doesn't seem to cover that much.
>>546046362>Why?Soros (jews)
>>546046381He commuted them to life without parole.
>>546046368What type of person voted for this hags. Foids?
>>546046384Why? The people of CA have directly voted to maintain capital punishment multiple times. So why?Same goes for the judges that keep releasing 30 time violent offenders..... why?
>>546046381The idea that some people are near irredeemably wicked, either due to their soul or biology depending who explains it, is something they really cannot stand. Their ideology boils down to the fundamental principle that everyone in society can be perfectly molded, and they firmly believe the criminal will clean up their act if they are given just *one more chance* to prove themselves.
>>546046387They also believe that every individual and people is the same
el salvador is tiny enough to do such thingshow would you even attempt to do it to Mexico for example
>>546046362I can't speak for others, but here it is because politicians are obsessed with muh human rights, and because Chilindians as a whole worship criminals, criminal culture and vulgarity in general
>>546046386California hasn't actually executed anyone in decades and it's already under a moratorium for several years. Really there are only like a dozen states that still carry out executions. There's no criminological consensus that it's necessary or superior to LWOP, and he's Catholic - the Catholic Church has long opposed capital punishment.>Same goes for the judges that keep releasing 30 time violent offenders..... why?Do you mean tossing out a case or imposing something other than LWOP? Sometimes their hands are tied in sentencing or there's just no compelling reason to impose LWOP if the law and facts of the case don't support it. It's not common that someone with a lengthy record of violent offenses gets leniency though, and a lot of states have a mandatory life sentence after three serious violent convictions.
>>546046388Correct, it takes a lot of bad aspects from Christianity such as slave morality, self flagellation and ideological zeal without applying the socially constructive parts. Instead, they are replacing it with gay atheism instead.
>>546046389Buff the military, pick a chosen cartel to ally with like Sinaloa, eliminate the rest.Perhaps more radically... legalize the production of the lucrative drugs that are keeping the cartels in business. Commercialize and regulate it, largely forbid it for your own people but effectively move the issue over to America, where it is still a black market ran by gangs.
>>546046391Ok, you're starting to spiral into the cope. Hundreds of families and friends had a loved one that was brutally murdered and/or raped. They were told they would get justice and closure. The people voted for a system that does this. And the government is refusing to follow through. Why?I'm aware of what's ostensibly on the books. It isn't enforced. There is a closet consensus that they're simply not going to enforce or do it. That's incredibly weird and unnecessary. Addressing crime is a 90/10 issue.
>>546046381It's weird because socialists in China and the USSR aren't (weren't) like that
>people sit on death row for years and decadesAnother thing the people never voted for or asked for. We have universally only ever wanted swift punishment and enforcement of the law. It's this cabal in law and government that find sneaky ways to subvert and soft nullify it. "oh of course we'll execute him... in 40 fucking years"
>>546046395Their left wing politics are more attuned to the harshness of reality and less built around the theoretical mess held together by schizophrenic Jews, women and homosexuals, as you see in Western nations.
>>546046393>Buff the military, pick a chosen cartel to ally with like Sinaloa, eliminate the rest.i think those steps are extremely difficult to pull off considering the sheer size of those mexican cartels
>>546046362>Bro you can't just solve crime by locking up all the criminals!!! t. leftistsTurns out you can. It really is that simple
>>546046377benevolent dictatorship is the best for the nation, its however not great once succession is on the table
>>546046394Because there's no evidence that the death penalty is necessary. Plenty of families just want the case closed and don't want to push for the death penalty - that actually would entail many more hearings and a long time. The majority of US states and almost all the wealthy democracies stopped doing executions years ago and replaced it with LWOP.>>546046396That's because of the supreme court ruling that actually permitted the reinstatement of the death penalty.
>>546046381>>546046395It's the influence of french leftist authors in the western and particularly the latin american left which reverse the parasitic role of lumpenproles in society.Blame france.
>>546046362Too much money in dem programs
>>546046401Funny how you never ask them though? As I said, your entire mentality is insane and predicated on never taking anyone else's opinion for it. The people want executions. The aggrieved families want executions. You don't do it. There is no mandate for your rule, it's just crony nonsense.
>>546046362>>0 countries attempt to replicate this >Why?Cool it with the antisemitism
>>546046362because it's against muh human rights o algo
>>546046404There's also no compelling evidence for the necessity of the death penalty, and sometimes the morally and statistically correct option isn't necessarily popular
>>546046407>There's also no compelling evidence for the necessity of the death penaltyWhat sort of evidence would change your mind? Isn't it more of a moral question, some crimes deserve death
>>546046399It hasn't worked well for the US states with the highest incarceration rate and worst prison conditions
>>546046362He is even colonizing Haiti as we speak.
>>546046362He cut the problem at its real roots, the judiciary. It’s no use sending criminals to jail when corrupt, or militant judges just release them. Bukele sent judges, lawyers and anyone that defends criminals to prison. When that layer of protection is removed, then one can start cleaning up crime.
>>546046409Yeah US could never just arrest all the criminals, that would be racist
>if you stop prosecuting the largest and most powerful gang in the country and then send literally anyone else who pisses off a cop to ultrajail without a trial, crime, on paper, disappearswaow
>>546046373He looks like a nazi!
>>546046408I'd want to see statistical evidence of its superiority over the alternatives. There's the moral aspect too but that's not just a question of what deserves death, but whether the state is morally justified in killing. The answer from a lot of Enlightenment thinkers was no.
>>546046373Looking at their history, El Salvador has unique traits that make extreme actions palatable. In the 1930s there was a communist revolution there, and the dictator at the time “solved the problem” by ordering the complete extermination of rural peasants, and killed one third of the country’s population just like that.
>>546046415>I'd want to see statistical evidence of its superiority over the alternativesWhat kind of statistical evidence? I fear that it's almost impossible to produce, given that criminality base rate varies between countries (read: races). I assume that's what you're looking for. Realistically though, I don't think it has any impact over life in prison, in countries where life in prison is an option. And that's how we come back to it being a moral question rather than empirical
>>546046417Regardless of the country, it would theoretically have an impact if you look at execution rates over time or between jurisdictions. As it turns out they've studied that in the US, and in majority of states that use it, the death penalty either has no effect or may actually increase homicide rates.
>>546046381You were able to dismantle the mob without devolving into a dictatorship. >this one dictator is good though!Ok. What has historically caused the most suffering in the 20th century;Dictators or petty criminals? You don’t restrain yourself from getting one because he wouldn’t make crime go down
>>546046418>may actually increase homicide ratesI assume these studies only prove correlation, not causality?
>>546046362>Bombs/drones gangsWild how so many problems can be solved in a quick manner when you don't have cucks impeding you every step. We need some of that here.
>>546046407And there it is. They're just tyrants. They don't care what the people want. They have an agenda and will override it. We live in tyranny and this system needs a massive reset button. Put every defense lawyer into max security with the inmates and let them enjoy what they built.
>>546046362That guard on the right has a face like Handsome Squidward
>>546046421We need women out of politics entirely. Not voting, not in law, not judges, not cops, not anything. They're fundamentally unfit for all of this and they're getting people killed.
>>546046421The UN and EU would like a talk with you
>>546046375Capes are cool, why aren't they mandatory for all parades
>>546046416>solved the problem” by ordering the complete extermination of rural peasantsabsolutely based.
>>546046400Problem is that "benevolent dictatorship" is a roullete. You may get an actualy good ruler. Or you will get someone like Assad, Noriega, Maduro, Argentine Junta etc. Or at worst someone like Pol Pot or Mao. Or, since you are Czehanon, bassicaly any ruler from Warsaw Pact who were various flavours of incompetence and economic mismanagement.
>>546046362Just watched the helicopter bombing. Pretty kinohttps://youtu.be/QMXP1VzAx-4?si=1_JhDDSz4dQnC-HQ
>>546046420Yeah it's theoretical. They call it the brutalization effect.
>>546046419Italy had much worse issues with corruption and organized crime and they controlled it using conventional methods too. No enforced disappearances or torture. They had mass trials but it was done fairly slowly, legally, and within the rules. It used to be one of the most dangerous countries in Europe and is now one of the safest.
>>546046422I generally support democracy but sometimes it doesn't yield the best results. This is one issue where people at least in the US consistently seem to react irrationally and emotionally, though that may be changing.
>>546046381anon the president openly offers pardons in exchange for cash, it's not a matter of affiliation
>>546046381liberals are totally delusional like that and unironically believe in things like abolishing the police. it's completely at odds with reality.
>>546046366mexico is too big to make this happen there, you would need a police state like in china for that assuming literally everyone in army and police is single orphan so cartels wont kill the family
>>546046434That’s like saying right wingers don’t think taxes should exist
>>546046432There is nothing remotely rational or pragmatic about letting evil genetic waste constantly out of jail to go wreak havoc on the entire system. Do you understand how cancerous a low trust system is? Everything stops. People stop working, stop going out, stop starting businesses. The cost is enormous, outside of the obvious immorality of not giving victims justice. As I said, this is such a needless unforced error of leftists, there is 0 benefit to keeping wicked trash out and about.How can anyone trust you to do anything moral if you can't even see eye to eye with them on normal human being things like eye for an eye?
>>546046437an eye for an eye makes you blind o algo
I want to say I find life imprisonment worse than the death penalty. How is locking a man away and letting him wither to a shell of person only to maybe be released onto a world he no longer understands better than a swift death? The former is death but humiliating and drawn out over 50+ years.
>>546046437Personally, I don't even have to ask. The entire reason why suburbs exist in the United States of America is because leftist city governments refuse to do the bare minimum and keep their streets clean and safe. That's it. That's the fix everything switch, the nuke the suburbs switch. It will never be flipped. And so my entire country is just a perpetual mexican standoff between suburban defensive architecture and crime ridden satanic inner cities.
>>546046438Only if you're murderer or a rapist too. Are you? It's a very interesting quote isn't it. Betrays a lot about the person saying it.
>>546046436except some of them do believe that, happens when you go full retard on any ideology
>>546046437Abolishing the death penalty doesn't mean letting them go, if you weren't aware. The alternative is usually LWOP. If they're found guilty legally they're guilty. >>546046441Was Gandhi a murderer?
Mafia is at least the half of the economy in such countries
>>546046362you forgot>invites more muslims>NA becomes United States of ArabiaLÖL
>>546046444crime derived money is a large % of any state's income
>>546046444>>546046734We have to be close to 50% ourselves desuPorts will be Ports
>>546046362well, his country is about as large as a small american city, and a ton of innocents got thrown in jail along with the criminals
>>546046362Because pretending to preserve moral and ethical highground is more important to western leaders than actually fixing our countries. Which is funny because the whole world is fed up by our constant double standard
Because they're all on the cartel payroll. The Mexican government for example is highly infiltrated by cartels.
>>546046362Baltimore decreased homicides by over 60% (and counting) by enforcing gun laws and directing young men to social services instead of gangs
>>546046362Because our politicians and voters are atheist cattle. Bukele actually believes in God and cares about his people. Two things are missing.
His project wasn't backed by a huge economic upgrade. Singapore had an economic upgrade and only after that it influenced its neighbors.
>>546046385The alternative was a "right-wing" candidate (also foid) who is somehow more corrupt
>>546046362Because it’s literally intentional. In France for instance, delinquency could be easily resolved. But do you know why they do nothing? Because the elites are all drug users, and they also know that a portion of the middle class uses drugs too. They call this, to quote them, "the social peace." The niggers can keep on being niggers while I continue to live in my wealthy neighborhood, shilling for public transport and multiculturalism, which I experience only from a great distance.That’s really how it is, I’m not making this up; that’s exactly how it is. Also when the Right talks about "fighting against delinquency," the use of the word "fight" is just as much of a joke, as if the state couldn’t crush delinquency in the snap of a finger.
>>546046362Because El Salvador became USA's bitch.
>>546046362The purpose of any sustained government policy is the actual results, not the stated purpose.
>>546046375kino
>>546046385bro the cartel literally just kills non-corrupt candidatessame as AIPAC if you think about it
>>546046419>dismantled the mob lolLmao
>>546046369>Mexicans living rent free in sudaca's mindMany such cases
