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When you start thinking about the nature of the universe and our world and society and our future do you ever feel overwhelmed? How do you cope? I feel sad a lot and a lot of that is just thinking about this reality we live in. I may need to find some philosphybbooks or something to figure out how to better cope with this world. It’s foolish but I wish there was a mentality I could adopt where I could feel like I’m “striving” but a part of me feels like anyone who “strives” and is well adjusted to this society with all of its flaws has their own issues and theyre possibly freaks. So I suppose I would settle for a mentality I could adopt that helps me cope more.

In my mind it’s a political topic because we are all navigating and trying to understand the constantly fluctuating societies we’re born in trying to keep our heads above water in a world where the rules are constantly changing every few years and it can seem like no one or nothing can be trusted.
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Read the Bible. Start to finish. Cover to cover. You can do the New Testament first, but also the whole thing. Cover to cover. Eyes looking at each sentence. Then read it at least one more time. That's a good 2 year goal: "I read the entire Bible 2 times".
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>>546046799
Is there a version to read? I have heard people say there are many versions of the Bible that are compromised or edited in various ways thay makes them not worth reading.
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>>546046894
I recommend the 1611 King James (not the "New King James"). I don't believe it's perfect like some people say, but compared to other English translations it is the best by far.
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>>546046964
So the 1611 version instead of the 1982 version? It looks like the 1982 version updates a lot of vocabulary, is the 1611 version difficult to understand? Would I just use the internet while I read to clear up anything I’m confused on? I remember in college taking a philosophy class when I was really young and got filtered by the archaic language which I couldn’t understand which bothers me today looking back at. Low iq moment.
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>>546046596
TheoV stop doing blow you weenie.
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>>546047160
The 1982 is probably fine. The bigger point I was making was to avoid the "New King James", and that's never referred to as the 1611. It's not hard to read at all. Some people say it's about 11th grade level, others say 5th grade. It's not difficult like Shakespeare or something. You could use the internet to clear things up you don't understand, but it goes without saying to be careful.

And I actually prefer the literal 1611, with the crazy font and the footnotes. They 1982 and such changes capitalized words, but most people will say it's not a big deal. Still, they did it for a reason and I dont like changes.
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>>546046596
do not listen to the retard suggesting the bible. it is not a proper solution to support a mindset thats started to see just how wrong the world is.
you'll either get brainwashed and suffer the same kind of self reinforcing mental loop as schizophrenics or have a metaphorical mask plastered to your face that forces a smile while everything's still broken.
in reality the way to cope is highly dependent on just how awake to it all you truly are.
>the nature of the universe and our world and society and our future do you ever feel overwhelmed?
mind explaining your opinions?
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nigga
it's over
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>>546046894
Honestly, don't read it unless you're a midwit. The realization of sheer amount of people who read this ooga-booga grade shit and felt enlightened is depressing as fuck, it just pulls you even deeper
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>>546046596
Amazing people see this Theo meme constantly and don't connect the dots that he's related to Hegseth
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if you actually end up relying on the torah then yeah it really is indubitably over nigga
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>>546046596
When you have had enough then you turn to God. I read Buddhist and Hindu scripture.

"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God."
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>>546046596
I realized nothing matters, I know its a rock and mortar thing but u can apply it differently. Your status, money, possessions, none of it matters. It doesn't matter if ur a clown or laughed at. The teeming masses are retarded and there is no use trying to appease them, what makes me happy is spending time with friends, building real and genuine friendships, going gym and trying to look good and having enough money to live comfortably. A dream and motivation are nice but u absolutely HAVE to have a fundamental base that u can appreciate and be thankful for, spend time with your loved ones, play games, try to improve as a person, be more motivated, become more disciplined, your life is a journey to enlightenment. Become the person you want to be, appreciate the things that truly matter, enjoy the things you really care about. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" is a wonderful quote i keep remembering. Never give up, life has do many good parts, things are usually worse in ur head than in reality, much love
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>>546047631
I understand not wanting things arbitrarily changed- my issue with that image is that the word persecution looks like it’s spelled perfecution. And that may be some old spelling but combined with the difficult to read yet aesthetic font I can see myself stumbling a lot trying to figure out if it’s a different spelling of a word I need to look up or if I just am misreading the letters. I’ll keep what you said in mind. I have to admit the old font does some heavy lifting in making me want to read it.
>>546047821
I understand a lot of religion is cope but I have free time for the next few weeks while i look for a new job so wanted to ask peoples opinions on things to read or ways to alter my framework I see the world in

I don’t know which ones to put down. some of it is stuff you realize when you’re young but the true gravity doesnt hit until toure older.


Basically I think our society is a farm where we breed a new generation of slaves to support a system that doesnt care about us and actively abuses and mistreats us. The established way to function in this society is to make a family but I don’t want to bring another being into this increasingly dysfunctional world. I think that humans are inherently opportunistic and selfish and while I know I could find someone to marry and dating isnt hard for me I do not trust a woman to spend my life with and rely on. Even if I somehow had a good family I made, I believe everything about the structure of modern society is also set up in a way that tears and pulls families apart and atomizes them. so many people end up alone even with a. Family.


Unfortunately that makes my future look lonely. And if I work hard for many years I will eventually have some quiet house to wait to die in or I can die in an old folks home or something in a best case scenario. every year that passes from here until now my body will slowly degrade and life will become increasingly lonely and difficult as time progresses.
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>>546048623
Now I am self aware enough to realize that all of that shit I wrote sounds like dramatic whining however inthink everythinf that I said there is true. my dad died at 62 from his work and a stroke and was one of the best people I ever knew and his entire life was increasingly stress and paying bills to stay afloat in a made up economy where things could run much better and our citizens could be much happier but the people who run everythinf don’t care how miserable we are- if we are twice as miserable but they make an extra 1% in their quarterly earnings to them it’s worth it.


And so I’m basically saying there needs to be more than this. Nothing I’m saying is really interesting or new. before my dad died I was trying to work and save up money so he could retire bevause I wanted better for him. I don’t have that ability now. And I’m looking for meaning in our schizophrenic society where it seems like every year or two we as citizens becoming increasingly hostile and suspicious of one another. It’s just a sad existence at this point and like many people before me I’m just wondering how to navigate this bitch of a world we live in. Over the course of my life I have seen new toys that we get like smart phones and such but the actual quality of life seems to degrade continuously. and I’m worried how much worse it’s going to get while we all claw to stay above water on a metaphorical sinking ship.
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>>546048623
I'm not saying you should use the old font for your 1st or 2nd read through. I didn't. I used picrel. But I still prefer the old one because 1) it has the Apocryoha 2) it has the footnotes/margin notes 3) it has the original capitalizations
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>>546049009
Is this the sort of thing you read from front to back in order or is it alright to jump arojnd in? How long does it take to read?
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>>546048623
>>546048926
>Basically I think our society is a farm where we breed a new generation of slaves to support a system that doesnt care about us and actively abuses and mistreats us...
reading a religious book at this point would only drag you deeper into a depressive mental state. do NOT do it.
unfortunately the only way forward is accepting that the jews are correct about people.
the vast majority of people are nothing more than cattle that are nearly hollow except for whats programmed into them (religious books are part of this, you are too awake for it to work without breaking yourself. you'll only see "wow, people worship this crap?"), and that their only real purpose is to be exploited by those that arent like this.
the silver lining is that by accepting this, you no longer have to worry about stepping over other people to get what you want
an honest life where you respect other people is a sham and will only net you a broken old body with no retirement plan. milk this bullshit society for everything its worth.
>And I’m looking for meaning in our schizophrenic society
for people us that have seen how it works? just enjoy the ride
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>>546047160
>>546049368
Front to back. Here is the app on Google Play Store.
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>>546046799
what a foolish waste of time
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>>546048926
How do you think you can most comfortably live in a system you are powerless to change without compromising yourself or your beliefs to a degree you can’t live with? Work towards that end, be it off grid hobo maxxing or a corporate 9-5 that affords you shiny new things. Unless you want to lead a revolution, or at least wait two weeks to take part in one, the best you can do is use the system you despise to find whatever comforts you find that are worth the effort. All of the people bemoaning rapid changes in history, be it women getting the vote, jobs loss to technology, Luddites, religious upheavals, foreign invasion, were right in their worries and concerns that the world they know and loved would forever be changed. It does not matter now that their fears were founded or that their predictions were correct, as it does not matter now that you feel you stuck in a shit world that’s only getting shittier.
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>>546049546
Nigger, you live in India, I’m good
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>>546050526
You scrolled through the entire thread to reply to my post. Not natural. Literally demonic
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>>546049424
If the people in charge of everything only view us as cattle then they must see us below even animals bevause we at least have laws to protect animals from needless abuse. And ultimately maybe that is what specifically bothers me the most about the nature of our world is it seems like a farm that breeds suffering in a ratio which exponentially outpaces joy or comfort.


Writing this for the first time im somewhat comforted by the dystopian idea that maybe they will try to replace all human workers with robots bevause maybe there will be less people and therefore less slaves and total needless suffering. Not that the bridge to getting there will be easy I’m sure but at least that is a silver lining.

I’m just tired of feeling so negative all of the time. After a point it’s counterproductive..It makes being here feel pointless. Ultimately I feel like there is a balance of needing to be stupid sometimes or to not think so we can be present and just try to be happy and enjoy a moment from time to time but it can’t be damn hard. But at the same time I also want to know if I’m right or wrong in how I see things.
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>>546046596
>>546046799

The Bible is a good source, but reading the whole thing is not necessary, start here:

https://pol.foundation/OTProphets.html

then read the books of Psalms and Proverbs

https://pol.foundation/Library.html for more illumination

and in general, you're not supposed to be well adjusted to this society, this society is sick and doomed, we must separate and escape.
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>>546046799
Don't waste time with the bible unless you lack the natural understanding for serious epistemology.
Read Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Representation" instead.
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>>546048623

this is all true, more or less, but you don't give up on life just because it will be difficult or because the odds of failing are high. if you give up to begin with that means you're accepting failure. if you try you may actually succeed, and even if your family splits apart it will still be worth it, you will have children, God willing.

>>546048926

>things could run much better and our citizens could be much happier but the people who run everythinf don’t care how miserable we are- if we are twice as miserable but they make an extra 1% in their quarterly earnings to them it’s worth it.

that's not the world we're in right now. we are living in the end times, the rulers and wealthy are selfish and foolish. we are responsible for ourselves, primarily. that's always true (of adults), but especially now that leadership has largely abdicated its role. watch what you eat and drink. discipline yourself, etc.

and again, we will have to separate from this society ultimately, because it is rotten and it will be destroyed. the 2 go together. read the link of the OT Prophets. the ship is sinking, we must get off.

>where it seems like every year or two we as citizens becoming increasingly hostile and suspicious of one another.

The Bible also references this. it's a hard time, people become selfish and coldhearted by neglect and failure, things fall apart. deviance cascades and spreads like a virus, like the violence in calhoun's mice.

what can we do? focus on the good, keep the faith, "Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you". this too shall pass, trust the process, things are progressing the way they are meant to.
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>>546049546
Even if I don’t agree with whatever is in there I will try to give it a read eventually if nothing else to better understand people who have read the book and who build their lives around that philosophy. Thanks for the suggestion and tourntime it’s kind of sad at my age I haven’t read the Bible yet when so much of our society is influenced by it in one way or another. Laziness on my part


>>546050342
It was a shock when I realized that maybe every generation was right when they said things were getting worse (less harmony/more stress) and that it may have been a psyop the way we were led to make fun of people like that. (Oh theyre just old which is why they say that every generation)

Ignorance on many of our part.

>>546050768
This might sound stupid but are those links safe? Haven’t heard of the site. Thanks for the reading material however.

It’s sad - on the subject of a sick society, when I was a kid and saw movies where aliens were attacking and the humans had to fight back (think war if the worlds) I always thought I’d be one of the humans fighting the aliens but the more I understand this society I think I would just accept it. What was that Bruce Willis movie where they have to change the trajectory of the asteroid? An alternate ai ending should be a monologue of him saying it’s an irredeemable world and him just letting it hit earth while riding it lmao
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>>546051369

it is my site, yes, it is safe. here are some archived links anyway:
https://archive.is/JtZql
https://archive.is/LzjrJ

>when I was a kid and saw movies where aliens were attacking and the humans had to fight back (think war if the worlds) I always thought I’d be one of the humans fighting the aliens but the more I understand this society I think I would just accept it.

well, that is what's happening now. the famous War of the Worlds broadcast was less than a year before World War 2. millions of aliens have invaded our homeland and Europe, thousands of them are terrorists and operators from enemy/hostile countries.

The Bible says Assyria is the "rod of my anger, in whose hand is the club of my wrath! 6 I send him against a godless nation, I dispatch him against a people who anger me" -Isaiah 10

we can't stop what's coming, we can only escape.
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>>546046596
The sad thing is that there are very simple solutions to all the worlds problems and no one wants to listen. There is no reason 3rd world countries should be poor. The tecnology exists to end all poverty. Part of the solution is simply limiting number of children born like China used to have to keep its population from exploding out of control. Other simple solutions is to call bullshit on feminism, which is no longer about right to work but is aimed at destroying men and the family.

dont let christ cucks turn you into a religious weakling (it happened to me a long time ago, it will ruin your life). All the social problems we have are caused by weak men who are afraid to stand up to 4th wave feminism is pure degeneracy and designed to destroy men and the family unit
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>>546050883
If I remember correctly this guy has been getting a lot of circulation on YouTube lately. That may be something I can do to fall asleep easier is listen to some of his writings or peoples summaries before I read the book. I think I’ve heard some of his takes before and some of them I’m sure are unpopular but i think theyre true.

>>546051199
I have heard in the Bible that in the end times families turn on eachother and society goes to shit and it’s hard not to think about that sometimes. I don’t think humans abandoning society is a sustainable strategy bevause we still have things we need like dental care unfortunately.

I will try to get back on the correct path of beinf grateful for what I have though a reminder is always valuable
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>>546051369
No problem fren. I hope you do. I should warn you that while it's easy to read, commitment is not common. I very rarely find anyone, even Christians, who has read the whole thing (which explains a lot about the world). Maybe you're a no-nonsense kind of person that will get it done no matter what, but if you have trouble, my advice is to keep track of what you've read. Most people end up reading Genesis or Matthew 10 times because they just start over after procrastinating, and you'll never finish it that way. You can find tools in that app to help mark off chapters you've done. You'll find them in the Plans section. I use the 30 Day Shred plan.
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>>546046799
2 years? It's only like 16 hours or so of reading cover to cover. I've read bigger Harry Potter novels.
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>>546051848

you can survive without modern medicine and dental care for a time. but if you stay on the sinking ship you cannot survive.

we will begin a new society elsewhere after the war, God willing

9 'Whoever stays in this city will die by the sword, famine, or plague.'
Jeremiah 21

5 This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: "Like these good figs, I regard as good the exiles from Judah, whom I sent away from this place"
Jeremiah 24

16 Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name.
17 "On the day when I act," says the Lord Almighty, "they will be my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as a father has compassion and spares his son who serves him."
Malachi 3

>When misfortune has spent itself, better times return
>It furthers one to have somewhere to go
>The old is discarded and the new is introduced
>Societies of people sharing the same views are formed
I Ching chapters 23, 24
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>>546051676
Does your website have a section that’s like a main menu to browse books? I may give it a look at some point soon. I broke my leg and it’s still healing so I’ve been thinking of reading. Can’t do much else.

>>546051810
I think you’re correct about a lot of what youre saying but it seems like china is struggling in some ways as a result of the in child policy causing unforeseen problems but those problems are probably mostly similar to what is happening in many other countries as well eith people not having kids.


I think once the population stabilizes at a lower level it would be fine if people didn’t scream about gdp—- but things like healthcare workers and retirement and stuff inthink is effected by that


Religion is tough I try to orchestrate myself in a manner which lines up with what a religious person would do even if I’m not religious but is be lying if I said people havent taken advantage of that at times and that it hasn’t set me back in some ways notnhaving proper boundries.
(Giving people money when I didn’t have much left etc)

>>546051865
I’m pretty sure I have adhd or something so I will just have to split it into chunks, I find like meditation if you sit down to just don’t a little bit, it’s easier to stay consistent and once you start sometimes it’s easier than you expect to do a little more sometimes.
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>>546046894
I'd recommend you find a physical copy that was printed before the 1980s

I have a living bible and when I look online for quotes, the online version is different from the one I have physically next to me.

the jews change the bible because my copy from the 1960s is pretty clear about jews being the source of evil in the world
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>>546046596
Just remember: you're just one pogrom away from a better life.
Spread the word!
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>>546046596
Nah I've just realised the entire concept of nations and patriotism was just a binding ritual in the first place so they could use that identity as a strawman to beat you into shape with. The wise man especially in these days gives his loyalty to no one but his closest circle. Detach yourself from the greater whole because it's corrupted to the core and always has been.
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>>546052597
Godspeed fren
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>>546052279
I got filtered by book 5 as a kid…do I have any chance?
>>546052446 what was going on when the Bible was written that explains why there was a prophecy everythinf would go to shit later? Was it just that god said it? Or was it just examining human nature at the time and feeling like the writing was in the wall thay things would need to start over betyer skmehow?


>>546052626
I’ve heard lots of strange theories about how the Bible has been edited in various forms which is part of why I haven’t gotten around to reading it

>>546052689
When I was younger I was a massive corporate boot licker and thought all riots were inherently just retarded lazy people without any use to society but I get it now
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>>546046596
An 8-billion-strong colony of highly predatory ants dominated the planet Earth.
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>>546046596
Nigga I am the whelm
Glowfaggots who profile retards on cuatro chan and the likes are on the news for sewerside not lazy neets
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>>546046596
I cant cope when it comes to a job I hate. After a year I just walk. I work hard, always been told how hard I work and these jobs when I leave hate when I leave, but I just cant stand working.
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