These guys are just sadomasochists who are incapable of seeing their sins or others sins, so they need lots of incense and men in dresses telling them what to believe to facilitate their perpetual program of, "violence for thee, salvation for me".The issue with Christianity, or the abrahamic religions in general, is the ASSUMED absolute perception, after the claim of divine revelation. This makes people believe that, because everything is love and sin is its absence, you can murder someone and it's an expression of God's love, because the Spirit is in you, the worst sin is pride from not committing sins, etc. Christianity is a jewish psychological technique where the God-given conscience is completely, 100% deleted; after that, you can make someone whatever you want them to be.Nazism and Bolshevism get blamed on jews, atheists, and freethinkers, but what these guys won't tell you is, while yeah those people put a spark of radicalism in a few decades of the twentieth century, the judaeo-catholicism of organized religious Christianity piled up fuel for millennia by deleting and assimilating Europeans.Christianity has austere truth that everyone is aware of and needs to defer to, but every Christian group I've met or been in defends the essence of Christianity, while placing 100% of its practical liabilities on everyone outside of, "muh church"; this is always what it devolves into, because if you are truly converted then you truly believe that you AREN'T a Christian and never will be, because they take the one thing that God gives everyone: the conscience, the sense of morals; it is a supreme violation, a spiritual lobotomy.and that creates and amplifies sin in a way that NOONE can be saved, and it 100% comes from the church in a way that God could never permit.>tldr: Christianity is merely essential truths that everyone knows and violates to some degree because we're not God, but systematically turns everyone into antichrists (antitruthgoodlove)
>>546056193what has orthodoxy and catholocism to do with christianity?
>we just need to kill 2.4 billion Christians and then the 18.5 million jews will finally behave. Trust me.
>>546056284They are the most mingled with politics and have done the most damage throughout secular history.>>546056323They have the same root and create the same fruit: the complete deletion of the conscience. Either system is an architecture of memes that ruthlessly replace the rational and moral faculties, then blames the convert for their ruined life, while having nothing spiritual, helpful, true or good themselves; in fact, both systems are used to justify their personal, arbitrary theft, murder, rape, etc.There is no difference, because when you use the divine as justification for absolute truth, then satan presents the entire world to you under your dominion, and most people in these systems, in their heart of hearts, accept satan's offer.Keeping spiritual stuff separate from material stuff is so that we don't destroy everything and everyone; these systems mingle it in perverse ways then blame you for it on a material basis.
>>546056747>They are the most mingled with politics and have done the most damage throughout secular history.yes, but my question is what man made religions have to do with Christianity?you clearly want to attack Christianity so why do you bring things into the argument that are not christian in nature to back up your attack?
>>546056193You can't debunk all the miracles faggot. The supernatural exists and you can seethe about. Irrespective to whatever you like to believe and tell yourself to sleep at night, the elite jews and masons will continue to keep practicing satanic rituals and kabbalah and there will be evidence of it . So you can either cope and try to delude yourself this doesn't matter or you can accept it and realize the spiritual war for humanity that is going. Either way it all goes on whether you like it or not.
>>546056826I swear every germanflag is a retarded poster. I'm vindicated on this after just a month of germanflag behavior.
>>546056907can you rebuke my claim, yes or no? if not then dont waste my time with your brown seething.
>>546057000Can you prove germanfag how Orthodoxy is not man-made when it has Apostolic Succession since 37 AD? If you're gonna say something so stupid why not just go all the way and say Christianity is a man-made religion since it was practiced by men from the start.> brown seething>ends with poltard strawman argumentYes, imagine that I'm brown and that will make my observation less true lol.
>>546057342>when it has Apostolic Succession since 37 AD? because you rely on this made up bullshit when apostles never had successors.apostle is a set apart calling by God personally and not inherited.maybe claim elder or bishop succession but dont come at me with this roman bullshit of apostolic succession.>Christianity is a man-made religionChristianity is a God made because God chooses who he gives new life through the Holy Spirit.choosing to join a religion because of personal, social or political reasons is nothing more than entering a cult, a social club, or human fraternity.>Yes, imagine that I'm brown and that will make my observation less true lol.simple reasoning, americans have anglo and german ancestors, your seething about my flag immediately defines you as some nigger breed since you have no ancestral connection to europe.
>>546057342*is not not man-made
>>546056826I don't have a problem with Christianity proper, or if you have faith even in some other religion, in the sense that you truly believe or seek and have no doubts, with religious practice that comes with that; all I'm saying is, the way it's being amplified is to destroy or hurt people, in concert with offering its medicine.
>>546058423>the way it's being amplified is to destroy or hurt people, in concert with offering its medicineI agree with you on that, mingling politics with religious affairs has lead to the greatest tragedies against humanity in history.thats why a church state union is not biblical and they should be kept completely seperate.
>>546057597>apostles never had successors.They literally did buddy, who is Saint Linus, Saint Titus, Clement of Rome. But hey maybe if we lived in Bizarro World you'd be actually be right, you know where like you said no apostolic sucession ever happened, no saints, hell Jesus of Nazareth never existed or the Council of Nicea never happened or gnosticism never died out. Unfortunately we live in a little place called reality, perhaps you're not so familiar. >apostle is a set apart calling by God personally and not inherited.That's disciple retard, that word is disciple not apostle, every Apostole is a disciple but not ever disciple is an Apostle, and you most certainly are neither. Also Apostle refers to the twelve, or do you deny that also too?>roman bullshit of apostolic succession.Has nothing to do with Rome retard, I'm not a papist so you can cease the strawmans faggot.>Christianity is a God made because God chooses who he gives new life through the Holy Spirit. >How do you even know who God is to begin with? How did you learn about him fundamentally, from who? Did God tell you in a dream who he was or was it these supposed "man-made religion" that did through a book they complied called the Bible. Also the Holy Spirit isn't the Bible so how do you even know about it, so by your own words retard you've embraced "a man-made belief" which come from the so called "man made religion". >ancestral connection to europeWtf does this have to do with Christianity retard, what does this have to do with God begin with. Also isn't that a man-made national identity lol. How does that have more credence than these supposed "man-made religion" which have existed way longer. I knew you were full of shit I could see it a mile away. I don't know if there's something in the water over there but thank you so much for proving my point that germanflags are always retarded. Retardation knows no bounds.
>>546056837>The supernatural existsProve it
>>546056193Seethe moar prot>>546056284>what has orthodoxy and catholocism to do with christianity?Unlike protestants, they are Christians.
>>546058733>Saint Linusliterally a bishop, not an apostle>Saint Titusmissionary and church leader, Paul never mentioned he is considered an apostle.>Clement of Romeliterally a bishop, not an apostleit seems you dont even get basic biblical distinction right so I throw you a bone.>An apostle literally means "one who is sent out" or a "messenger,">Traditionally required to have been a follower during Jesus' earthly ministry and an eyewitness to the resurrected Christ.Jesus Chose the 12, Jesus personally chose Paul for his apostleship. in Acts 13 we read it was confirmed that Paul, Barnabas were the ones to be sent out.13 Now in the church that was at Antioch there were certain prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon who was called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” 3 Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away.so here is the definition of what an apostle is, bishops and elders are NOT apostles do you get that, they have a different job in the Church of Christ. not every saint is an apostles but every apostle is a saint.if you understand that difference then good, now you understand why apostolic succession is not a thing.
>>546057597>apostles never had successors.>apostle is a set apart calling by God personally and not inherited.Acts 8:14-24"14 Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, 15 who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.18 And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”20 But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! 21 You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. 23 For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by iniquity.”24 Then Simon answered and said, “Pray to the Lord for me, that none of the things which you have spoken may come upon me.”It's all so tiresome
>>546058800>>546059136>mary worshiperopinion discarded, repent of your idolatry.
>>546059213It's true
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>>546058568>church state union is not biblical.Holy shit, I mean this is the least rude way possible but why are you so retarded, let me repeat that, why are you so fucking retarded. You do know that Ancient Israel was theocracy, you know that right because there's no way. Melchizedek was both king and high priest. The tithes were equivalent of taxation for them and mosaic law was civil law. Do you even know what the word biblical even means to begin with. Do I need to break it down for you? I have to know how can you be this ignorant but yet pretend like you actuall6 know what you're talking about. I don't get it. Why are you pretending, who are you trying to convince so badly and why do you suck so badly at in the first place. Atleast make sure you know what you're talking about. People on this board are so fucking especially when it comes to Christianity, its astounding. Do I need to make infographics for you people?
>>546058733>>How do you even know who God is to begin with? How did you learn about him fundamentally, from who? Did God tell you in a dream who he was or was it these supposed "man-made religion" that did through a book they complied called the Bible. Also the Holy Spirit isn't the Bible so how do you even know about it, so by your own words retard you've embraced "a man-made belief" which come from the so called "man made religion".Oh I didnt even read your snarky insert there the first time.do you think I learned about God from the bible? is it not God who contacts you first and then leads you into his Word? is not the Word the confirmation of your salvation because God first introduces himself directly to you and then confirms himself by the Word that it is truly him?and you tell me you read the bible and then reached out to God by joining some cult that pretends to be christian when in facts it is gnostic? fucking lmao dude.
>>546057342You can see, throughout history, what that system turns into. Orthodoxy and Catholicism for someone outside of it should make them thankful they're not a part of it.>>546058733Apostolic succession is meaningless if it's just used to yoke Christians to a world system:Acts15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
>>546059611>You do know that Ancient Israel was theocracyancient Israel Kingship was seperate fromt he priesthood, the King was never allowed to be High Priest. thats a pagan tradition.the only Person that was ever King and Priest was Melchizedek the shadow of the true King and High Priest of Jesus Christ.have you never read the bible or what? is this what man made churches produce in this day and age?
>>546059611>You do know that Ancient Israel was theocracy, you know that right because there's no way. Melchizedek was both king and high priestAncient Israel actually maintained a strict separation between the roles of king and priest, and Melchizedek was not an Israelite. While ancient Israel operated under religious law (often called a theocracy), its political and religious offices were intentionally divided.
>>546059504The way religion is used politically is a high quality pol topic.
>>546059278>>546060022even the fucking heathen is on my side on this.Jesus Christ how bad the religion and the churches have failed the people.
>>546060111I was a Christian for most of my younger life.
>>546060173you should embrace Jesus Christ later in your life apart from churchianity.
>>546060234I do, just not in the way yous would like.
>>546059110>Saint Linus I never said he was an Apostle, I said sucessor to the Apostles like Saint Titus and Clement of Rome. As he succeeded Peter. Are you dumb? Do you not know what words mean? Why>Jesus Chose the 12, Jesus personally chose Paul for his apostleship. in Acts 13 we read it was confirmed that Paul, Barnabas were the ones to be sent out.Exactly, thank you for reinstating my point , "Apostole is a disciple but not ever disciple is an Apostle", moron. So you're not an Apostle and you can't be one even if you wanted too because its an exclusive category. Thank you for pointing that out lol. You're not too bright are you huh.>Apostole is a disciple but not ever disciple is an Apostle>here is the definition of what an apostle is, bishops and elders are NOT apostlesRight, because I never said this, literally never said this once. Rather you conflated sucessors of the Apostles with Apostles, shouldn't even have to say this but being the successor an apostle does not make you an apostle, do you get that? So hence, just like said you a true moron, and retard but its okay your not the first and won't be the last. >apostolic succession is not a thingCertainly a stupendous retard, that much is sure, in a class all of your own.
>>546060111Well of course fellow retards would be on your side retarded germanflag.
>>546059213>Holy Pertpetual Virgin Mary Mother of Christ Most Honoring Ftfy >>546059213>opinion Literally The Bible>discarded,Truth burns the protestant>idolatry.not>repent nothing to repent aboutYou on the other hand should repent for your blasphemy and your pride.But then again pride won't let you. The devil has a firm grip on your soul marching you to hell with The Bible which you so conveniently ignore in your hand.
>>546059278>It's trueIt's false.Catholics venerate, Orthodox Most HonorEither mistranslation or disingenous translation
>>546060575>As he succeeded Peter.as a bishop, not an apostle.>So you're not an Apostle and you can't be one even if you wanted too because its an exclusive category.so now you agree with me that apostolic succession is not a thing, thanks.>Rather you conflated sucessors of the Apostlesif you call yourself an successor of an apostle that means you take over the role of the apostle. are you retarded?this whole apostolic succession is one giant farce to bring the goyim/laity under submission while the initiates practice their paganism over them.
>>546060699>Literally The Biblethe jesuit satanist bible maybe. look up what they practice.protip: its jewish kabbalah
>>546060777>It's falseI don't believe you.You lot supplement Jesus, simple as
>>546056284well you call it "orthodox" because you would otherwise have to just call it "christianity"
>>546060925orthodoxy is highly gnostic.
>>546060971> christianity is highly gnosticftfywont confirm or discard your onions onchristianity
>>546061040the gnostic teachings were always heretical.
>>546060022>Melchizedek was not an IsraeliteYeah I know and I don't care that's not the point. Is he biblical? Its either a yes or fucking no, right? Is he biblical?>While ancient Israel operated under religious law (often called a theocracy)Oh ok, so there was a theocracy. There was a biblical theocracy. Either is or isn't. So why are you doing all this run around "well it could perhaps likely conceivably by chance possibly and probably be what one may presumably consider so oftenly to be what could be perchance deemed to be a theocracy". Versus "there was a biblical theocracy". See how easy that was, plain, simple and straight to the point and no merry-go-rounds.
>>546061123> christianity was always hughly hereticalthis is what you are trying to sayno need to thank me
>>546059611>picrelThe Roman system is trying to scapegoat all the sheep like this, it is only capable of putting its evil sins on everyone outside of, "muh one true mother church". People with their conscience intact, whether through agnostic naturalism or through faith, are keenly aware of this. The Roman system WILL have everyone killing each other for no reason, other than, "Hey, those guys over there are misusing God's pronouns! Let's go chasten 'em and flay them alive, that's God's love! Ra ra ra!", because again, as I said in my OP, they transmute faith into sight in a one-for-one way with semi pelagianism, and utterly destroy the conscience of most in the process.Satan can destroy people with perfection.
>>546060022>>546059996>separation between the roles of king and priest, Judges, SamuelProtestants read The Bible but don't or don't want to understand it.Many such cases.
>>546056193nah, nonbelievers areif there is nothing waiting fpr you afterlive and you know it, what's the fucking pointand I'm not reading your diarrhea
>>546061358>Protestants read The Bible but don't or don't want to understand itComing from a dork whinjas to be told what the bible says by a dork in a fish hat
>>546061358the judges were not the High Priests, Samuel anointed the king of Israel, not himself. are you retarded?
>>546061418>if there is nothing waiting fpr you afterlive and you know it, what's the fucking pointONLY THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SPREAD THIS CANCERYou use this, not to justify slavery, or separating church from lost people; you use it for your personal, autonomous arbitration, which is the mechanism of reprobation (the complete deletion of the conscience, such that someone can't give or receive love in their heart of hearts).Under your religious systems, chattel slavery, and torture / executions of "heretics" like the Waldensians, are mandatory, but I, of my natural, rational free will as an antinomian atheist, or as a "degenerate" modern Protestant, can recognize that even you are a victim of that and have suffered a fate worse than death.The worst sin is being incapable of seeing your own sin.
>>546061419>whinjasWho has*
>>546061644>antinomian atheistnothing wrong with the 10 commandments
>>546060790>as a bishop, not an apostleBut still successor, because thats what I originally said, remember. Successor of the Apostles, not an Apostles. Words have meaning, well unless you're just retarded like in your case.>now you agree with me that apostolic succession is not a thing, thanks>if you call yourself an successor of an apostle that means you take over the role of the apostle.Now you're getting it. That's why their the successor of the Apostles, because in the case of Peter who was the bishop of Antioch, Saint Evodius who took over his role became his successor. See I know you couldn't be that dumb after all. I mean only so much stupidity can one truly possess. You're still retarded but not completely it seems.>apostolic succession is one giant farce to bring the goyim/laity under submission while the initiates practice their paganism over them>your brain on schizophreniaYes, and their are shape-shifting reptilians under the earth. So there are these things called meds, you should try some.
>>546060234>ChurcesLiterally in The BibleProts are so tiresomeLike broken records
>>546060824I literally quoted Acts 8:14-24 from the New King James BibleAre you retarded or just ragebaiting?
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>>546061819do you not think that the enemy would jump on the position of authority in the churches and ultimately consolidate his power in the one head bishop over all other bishops claiming to be the successor of Peter who Jesus personally told he would build his church upon it?never underestimate the enemy and rely on people as persons of authority over you faith other than the person of Jesus Christ himself who is the Word himself become flesh.you dont need church traditions and church hierarchies to have communion with Christ directly.Jesus didnt stutter when he said come out of her my people, he meant it. churchianity is poison to the soul and body.
>>546061963>Acts 8:14-24what has any of that to do with Mary?rather it exposes you as Simon Magus who wanted to buy the powers of the Holy Spirit.
>>546062066Are you also having an episode?
>>546060895>I don't believe you.Don't! Look it up for yourself>You lot supplement Jesus, simple asCorinthians 12:20-26 NKJV20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no [a]schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.Do you even know what a Family is letalone how it works?Also checkout those cool digits - Triple Seven
>>546062196>gambling your soul in the casino called Babylon that trades with soulswouldnt be me
>>546062269>Look it up for yourselfI have >>546062269>>You lot supplement Jesus, simple as>"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"
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>>546062269>bring human understanding to spiritual truthyou also think Mary is the neck, right?
>>546056193that was indeed Nietzsche's thesis
>>546060971Chosen as Bishop of Lugdunum, now Lyon, Irenaeus wrote his best-known work Against Heresies around 180 as a refutation of gnosticism, in particular that of Valentinus.[6] To counter the doctrines of the gnostic sects claiming secret wisdom, he offered three pillars of orthodoxy: the scriptures, the tradition said to be handed down from the apostles, and the teaching of the apostles' successors.[6][7][8] He is the earliest surviving witness to regard all four of the now-canonical gospels as essential.[9]Lying prots. Quelle surprisePerhaps you wanted to say Orthodoxy is Mystic?
>>546056193Christ is king.
>>546062334This you?Having this level of derangement and obtusenessCouldn't be me...couldn't be me.
>>546062596Wasn't that the guy who went mentally insane to point of catatonia. Definitely followed his ideas to their natural course.
>>546062871>lets just disregard Gods warning and prophecies, what could go wrongJesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray.24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
>>546061419Can't refute literal Bible Books Quoted proceeds to ad hominemMany such cases>Has to be told what The Bible says Well yes, I'm not as proud as you to believe that I can understand The Written Word of God without Him and His Authorized Interpreter
>>546062833>what is esoteric vs exotericthe papacy is literally Simon Magus Gnosticism where man becomes like God, ruling as God on earth with the authority of God.
>>546063062>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION AAAAAHHHH NO NOT THE SUCCESSION!!!!!!!!!!Apostolic concession can't hurt you anon, its real but it can't hurt you.
>>546063205not yet, it killed millions in the time it was able to. but times are changing back to its former beast nature.but since you are not in the Word you cant read the room. dont plead with me when you have taken the mark willfully because you didnt pay attention to biblical prophecy.
>>546063091>Can't refute literal Bible Books QuotedI've already did that with bible quotes lol>>546063091>>Has to be told what The Bible says>Well yesKek
>>546061429>are you retarded?No, are you?Eli was the priest of Shiloh, and one of the last Israelite Judges before the rule of kings in ancient Israel. And Samuel said, “Gather all Israel to Mizpah, and I will pray to the Lord for you.” 6 So they gathered together at Mizpah, drew water, and poured it out before the Lord. And they fasted that day, and said there, “We have sinned against the Lord.” And Samuel judged the children of Israel at Mizpah.So he was a judge.Also by your own wordin He also annoited Saul so he was also a priest.Casd study - how many times does the word "priest" appears im Judges?But what should a brain washed to lie protestant know? I mean other than spewing over and over the same lies?
>>546063347>Germanfag trying to wrestle with Apostolic Success.You poor tortured soul, why are you torturing yourself? If you don't get it thats okay, don't hurt yourself trying to understand. No sense in punching above your intellectual weight class.
>>546063676>mary worshiper calls you brainwashedtopkek>>546063694its always ad homs with your folks once you ran out of arguments.I am warning you of the workings of satan in the churches and all you do is point fingers.I leave the rest up to God then, good luck making it on your own. (you wont make it)
>>546063897Why would I seriously talk to a dishonest and obtuse-minded person, that's retarded. Just because you're retarded doesn't mean i have to be. It would be an insult to my intelligence. Can't reason with a clear schizo. You're clearly a person who lacks any semblance of self-awareness, so its all the more entertaining.
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