All you your retirement funds are going to get obliterated when this Jewish AI data center bubble crashes. There will be no survivors.
I'm not invested in the jewish casino because I'm not a fucking retard
>>546057222You have a personal computer which is going to be outlawed so (((AI))) companies can use all the chips
>>546057273Go for it. I've always wanted to kill a man.
>>546057328Nice AI slop
>>546057179Lol panzies are fucked
I do not care for the AI industry
>>546057179CoolLove it Fuck everything
>>546057179It's for the greater good. Elon Musk said AI will make us all billionaires in 10 years
>>546057179It's not going to crash.Employment is what's going to crash whilst leaving stock market inexplicably unaffected. Screenshot this.
>>546057179What's the difference between a pension and a retirement fund ?
>>546058506>It's not going to crash.
>>546058781That's a concerning looking chart.
>>546057328i you even carry that mine on you know how much bullshit is pic
>>546058940>If you only knew how bad it really is
Oh shit this is going to make 2008 look like pre school. Im loving it. Let it all burn down.
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>>546057179There's not an AI bubble and nothing is going to crash. You retards have been saying that muh AI bubble was about to pop for years now, and AI just keeps getting better.All of the frontier labs have had soft RSI for the last year, and now we are starting to see the curve go hyperbolic. Everything is actually happening 5-6 months earlier than anyone expected. The world is going to be a completely different place a year from now, but you retards will still cling to muh stochastic parrot, muh glorified text autocomplete, muh not real intelligence, muh bubble because you don't want to accept the obvious reality that you were completely wrong about everything.
>>546057457That pic has been around before you were born...
>>546059383
>>546059248>>546059383Yeah that's looking very much like the double peak before aaaaahhhhhh red wojack.
>>546057179We don’t get stock market crashes anymore. They will just print money infinitely to keep the bubbles going. They will not let another 2008 happen.
>>546059450
>>546059495let them print until they are out of paper
>>546059414I was born in 1978 and still have several hundred thousand free minutes of AOL.
>>546057222everything is invested into the jewish casino even your life’s expectancy is being gambled on and triple hedged and repackaged sold and swapped so stfu
>>546059586
>>546058450Yeah, Zimbabwe fell for that shit too:
>>546059612>judeomathematics!Very spooky. I still don't give a shit.
>>546057179Good. I invested a little bit of money into this economy, but i still prefer it crashing.
>>546058675Defined benefit vs defined contribution.Pensions pay out a fixed, defined amount when you become eligible to start receiving payments that you will receive until you die (or sometimes until your spouse dies). Retirement funds are like 401ks where you put aside a certain amount into an account and invest it in whatever, then when you retire it's worth whatever the investment has grown to.Pensions are like one huge account managed by institutional investors, that pay out to individual pensioners from retirement until death. Retirement funds are separate accounts for each individual where they just get to keep however much they put into the account plus investment growth.
>>546059410Railroads kept being built. Railroad bubble stocks crashed.
not my problemi wont do shitnothing burger
>>546057179>speculative debtHuh?
>>546057179The difference is the US government has a vested interest in seeing those data centers being built, unlike houses
>>546059627
>>546057179Why are the whales so unusual?
>>5460571792+w
>>546059188Thanks for reassuring us rajesh. You tried
>>546059828the government and it's owners absolutely have an interest in houses being built, it's a massive support structure of the ever expanding debt system
>>546059590
>>546059829Intel oddly looks like it might be ok...
Bears are the most retarded people on the internet
>>546059736The only bubble are all of the stupid meme startup companies whose only business plan is "[thing that already exists] but now with AI!" and all the retards trying to get rich selling automation and AI B2B even though AI has gotten so good that any business who actually wants to automate whatever can just ask Claude to do it and not even bother with some retard automation consultant. Or people trying to sell vibe coded slop software, because again there is nothing stopping anyone else from just making their own version of the software.But all of the major AI and tech companies you've heard of will be fine, other than possibly OpenAI.
>>546060025You have to be at least 18 years old to post here
>>546059829
>>546060083You're connecting the technology and the stock. That's an easy mistake to make.
>>546060124
>>546059804Shit debt, unlikely to be paid back because data centers are not and will not be profitable, is being tucked in with debt likely to be paid back, dropping the real value of the debt as a whole. Same shit happened in 2008 when subprime mortgages (think billy bob fuckwit buying a house he can't afford on his income of foodstamps and toys made of garbage he sells on ebay) are traded as being higher value debt than they really are. billy bob fuckwit goes bankrupt, his mortgage isn't paid, his house gets repo'd, the bank takes a loss... now magnify that by several million, to tens of millions, and you get a massive financial crisis that snuck in because the billy bob fuckwits of America had a tarp thrown over them to hide just how unlikely they are to actually pay their damn debts.Best part is, the data center fucks already know this story, and they're counting on it, because the government swoops in and saves their worthless asses by bailing out their shit deals with our tax dollars, just like they did in 2008, because no politician will ever allow their legacy to be another great depression.
>>546060245
>>546057179It was a bubble last year, now it's a bomb and we already hear the loud ticking.Also you image isn't the worst part, the repackaged it with bonds as well, so it's not just people and their money, it's entire countries too.Shit gonna be lit.
>>546057179All by their plan, yet it continues, unabated. interesting, isn't it>?
so what the fuck do I do with my 401k, just hold it and wait for it to recover? assuming I keep my job, if not then I have to cash out at heavy penalties plus whatever the market crash does to it
>>546060346
>>546057179Hope so, but nothing ever happens.
Yep lots of people were calling this out and simply knowing about it doesn't matter. There were warnings about the housing crash years before it happened too.
>>546059727Thank you.
>>546060328I literally just pulled some money out of my 401k to buy a few cars my family needed Before the market took a dump. Ill be sure to keep away from any of these "investment opportunities"
How will this affect me who owns no assets, no wealth, nothing I care about aside from my dog. I would unironically kill for my dog if needed
>>546057222if you have a pension fund then you are, dickhead. that's the point of the OP.if not you're a neet and you're potless anyway
>>546059972True, but to the larger point, trillions in (((value))) are disappearing, not to mention the billions that OpenAI and Anthropic are continuing to lose.If AI was so smart, why can't they create a profitable company?
>>546060408>hold it and wait for it to recoverYes, retard. It always recovers within a few years. t. 2008 401k holder
>>546059248>discussion is on AI stocks>posts Dell
>>546060219The technology has the potential to give the frontier AI companies the lion's share of the equivalent of somewhere between 10x and 100x of the Industrial Revolution in 1/10th the time.Most people think the product these companies were created to sell was SaaS access to AI models to the general public and businesses, because that's mostly what they have been doing so far.But the real money maker isn't going to be that at all. It's going to be the IP created by super intelligent frontier models that no one outside of those labs will ever be able to use or access. This transition only started happening in the last few months; all of this AI safety stuff and models too powerful and dangerous to release to the public are how they make the pivot.
>>546057179I switched jobs and converted my 401K to an IRA that I control. Should be good
>>546060814They're pretty well connected and partnered with Nvidia.
>>546060907>>546060546If you don't want to leave your job, take out a 401K loan. This lowers your balance and you won't get any gains (or losses) as the money isn't in there. You have to pay it off in full if you leave though.This is not financial advice.
>>546060328The United States is now over 40 fucking trillion dollars in debt. It was only around 10 trillion back in 2008 during the financial crisis. They can't print their way out of this one. We're getting another Great Depression no matter what happens.
>>546058506going to crash my balls onto your mom's chin maybe
>>546057179>sticking shit, unpayable debt to people with life affecting income streams such as retirement and pensionscruel and callous
>>546058450>elon musk said
Don't care
>>546060729The majority of people don't even know what the fuck that is. We just pay taxes so we aren't sent to prison.
Everything is similar to the subprime mortgage bubble, and therefore nothing is.
>>546057179Jokes on them.I already own nothing and have no money.
>>546061320Still think employer match and pre tax contributions are a good deal :-) ?
I don't understand finances. How the fuck can you sell debt? Why would anyone spend money so they can owe it?
>>546059410Your English is pretty good.But you still have to go back.
>>546061152The wage disparity to housing cost is literally already worse than the Great Depression. It has been for years.
>>546057179>your retirement funds
>>546061564Interest.
Good so I can buy in more cheaper.
>>546061564Jews
>>546061152>He thinks that the total amount of debt is anything more than a number.
>>546057179You won't need retirement funds. Everything will be free when government robots make it automatically. If the bubble bursts that means it's working, they will have trained all the models and they work on tiny devices that don't need big data centres and SAAS to train and serve more.
>>546061564Because debt is an asset as it increases in value over time. Believe it or not, banks don't want to hold on to cash because it is a liability due to decreasing in value over time. Both phenomena is due to our money being based on debt, which is, of course, retarded and very circular. Ultimately, that means buying debt is effectively value preservation, because while you will be paid interest, over time the potency of the money you're paid dilutes.
>>546061571This plus I can't get a fucking job no matter what plus food is almost twice what it was 10 years ago.My dad made the equivalent of $23/hr today in the 90's while my mom worked part time as a receptionist. They bought a suburban house in a nice area in 1990 with a finished basement and large fenced in backyard, big enough we could easily put a pool in if we wanted to. He had a zero turn mower, a shed full of tools, we went out to eat or ordered pizza every other Friday and I always had the latest consoles and games growing up plus a strong PC, I was able to play Quake on release. If I had the equivalent income today I'd be struggling to afford a mobile home while eating rice & beans and staring at the wall for fun. What the fuck happened?>>546061610So you buy debt from someone you know can't pay it off in a timely manner so you can turn a profit on the interest? That seems evil.
>>546058450This HAS to be a bot post.
>>546057273That doesn't follow. Either the AI bubble keeps inflating and chips remain in demand or the bubble bursts and demand evaporates.
>>546061886could be a joke postonce the hyperinflation hits, we will all be billionaires indeed
Found the source for the quote btwThe open market initiative published a report on ithttps://www.openmarketsinstitute.org/publications/report-brace-for-impact-protecting-people-and-the-economy-when-the-ai-bubble-burst
>>546060838they won't be allowed to do that from a regulatory standpoint. and generative AI is proving to be a commoditizable technology where open weight models and chink clones are 'good enough' for 90%+ of use cases
>>546057179>Jew: Thank you Baby Boomers, you've done well. We won't be needing your services anymore>Baby Boomers: God Blees Israel!!!
>>546062085bump
>>546057222ypu got money in the bank? then it's invested. not for (you) thoughbeit
The data center bubble will transition and reposition into the humanoid robot bubble and the Quantum computing bubble.There will be no 'crisis', only permanent forced growth.
>>546057273Don't care I have no computer or job and live on no assistance so glow niggers tounge my anus
Pension and retirement funds can't buy securities that aren't AAA rated. Of the ratings agencies are giving AAA ratings, then the underlying security isn't garbage and is unlikely to crash. The problem is: ratings agencies assigned AAA ratings to CDOs and trash loan packages leading up to the 2008 crash. So have they learned their lesson? I guess we'll see.
>>546062236So what is the plan for the billions of people that will be out of work who are already financially struggling when that happens?
>>546061432MY MAN
>>546057222doesnt matter the building is going to collapse around you if you dont have a parachute and know how to use it you are going down
>>546058450He said it would create wealth not that you would be wealthy, which is true.Everyone should convert their backyard into a food garden/tiny suburban farm to supplement your diet. YOu should own a 3d printer and have the knowledge to use it to replace the need to buy anything except resin for the printer to make any tools and parts you need that don't need an industrial furnace nad rare earth metals to create.You should have solar panels to reduce load on your bills. possibly consider one of those deals where they pay you 50/month to install data center gpus to use your solar panel energy.The future will be worse but you can prepare while everyone else thinks 'the world before 2008' will come back if they voot hard enough.
>>546060838>we have super amazing stuff guyz>no, you can't see it>but trust me>it'll make quadrillions brook buddy, sounds believablecan i just point out something tho?let's say that its trueits not, but lets say that it isif those companies do end up making super intelligent models that do end up taking everyone's job(which btw is exactly what those 1.5-2t valuations they wanna IPO at imply)IF that happenswhat happens to the economy?you know, when everyone gets fired because its all AI nowwho pays for anything anymore? including the income those companies need to function?what happens with the ~8 bliion of newly unemployed humans out there?do they just sit around and wait to starve to death?to repackage this so non-whites can digest it:-if AI companies fail to achieve superintelligence, they go bankrupt-if AI companies do achieve superintelligence, the world burns because everyone is unemployed OR they get nationalized because that's the only way to share the wealth with the other ~8 billion-either way, no massive returns for current investors in the scheme
>>546057179nothing will happen digits confirm
>>546062265MY MAN
>>546062292AHA AHA AHA AHA LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOOOLOL
>>546059248dell was always glowing hard as fuck building so much trash premade pcs and shilling it to tards for big $$$ dell is 100% cia corpo network
>>546057179I only invested in antisemitism, and I'm getting wealthier by the day.
>>546062292your troubles will be over
>>546062352but all i need is a gun and whatever i want is mine desu
>>546057222>just keep all your money in bank accountsEnjoy your $0 retirement
>>546062490KEK
>>546062557my retirement plan is a shotgun in my mouth tho
>>546057179>retirement fundsKek, 99% of chuds here never had those, we mass gold silver and crypto
>>546057179>2.0LOL - Try 100.9
>>546057179K.
>>546062358You can see it. Look at Claude. Two years ago it was smart autocomplete. Today Opus can write 99% of code. Heck, look at at Fable that just came out, it's even better. It's not outrageous to think that yes, they actually are working on even better things.As for what happens to the economy, no one knows. Politicians are retards and none of human society was designed or balanced around the idea of thinking machines that can 100% replace humans.
>>546061818We still had the last shreds of a real industrial economy in the 90s. Not much, but it was there. That was all sold out and shipped overseas by the early 2000s in favor of the booming (((tech industry))) that they promised would make us all rich. You now see how that turned out.
I thought AI was a big juicy bubble and I lost about 30k in various puts since last year. Thank god drump invaded Iran because I would have been down double that. But I started using AI in September for work and I have done more work in the last 2 months alone than my team did in 10 years.
>JUST IN: Jensen Huang of $NVDA reportedly also had a relationship with Nvidia's vice president of health care, per the NYT
>>546062629what size shell? how are you going to make 100% certain the brain stem is completely severed?
>>546057179Im happy to hear this, total boomer rugpull. Hopefully all those liberal techies invested too, I want them broke without a job
>>546057179>how many more financial crises do we have to manufacture until you beg us to implement communism?—
>>546058781We're just cooling off before the next rally. Fuck those chink spies
>>546059590Ancient Chinese proverb
>>546062557just keep it in the casino owned by jews instead, also you won t see pension . boomers will be the last people to see a cent
>>546063017fuck if i know nigga ill think about that later i gotZ shit to do for another 50 or 60 years or something, id actually prefer going down in a hail of bullets going after whatever evil mother fuckers end up taking shape in the future LOLunless of course humanity somehow works itself out and we all live happily ever after lmao
>>546057179goddamn bankers are going to be the end of us all.
>>546061818>What the fuck happened?Banks lending into asset bubbles instead of productive companies. Asset inflation. Weak unions.
>>546059605>I was born in 1978No, you weren't. Maybe your daddy or mommy was, Zoomie.
>>546057222I am. Right now I'm bag-holding 1000 shares of SQQQ (inverse nasdaq 100 @3x leverage) and 20 SPXS calls (inverse S&P 3x). Shit was supposed to collapse this week but I guess I didn't sacrifice enough babies to moloch
>>546057179Elon Musk, Sam Altman, etc are modern day John Law's.
>>546057179I’m not wearing any diamondsEmerald Augustus Dawn
Yeah, I warned you all about this in May of 2026Nobody listenedhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/536177592/
>>546059410Its a cope. These people know that a machine can do their jobs better so they hope that the market tanks it and AI disappears forever. The hatred is spurred on by fear because they cant understand it, they dont know how to effectively use it, and they know that it is "smarter" than them. These are the people who are dumb enough to think that the bubble pop will fix all of their problems and that AI will just be deleted forever. They have no foresight or abstract reasoning. Their fantasy is purely delusional and devoid of the consequences that comes with a market crash
>>546059590They just buy more paper with the money that they printed last week
I'll just buy all the way down. I've got a 30 year investment horizon.
>>546057179My retirement funds?Holy shit a kike Ai data center just flew over my house.>There were no survivors.
Bury is a retard that is wrong far more than he is right with a cult following of other retards
>>546059410This. I rarely bother telling them anymore though because they will stubbornly cling to their MUH BUBBLE narrative no matter what.
>>546057457FUCKING NORMAL FAGS GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD! GOD DAMN! *Mom noises*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZTAm2Jxq0
>>546062532The 130+ IQ plan
>>546058781Well... They've got some rebound capability because ever since crypto, then Covid, then "AI" more people than would otherwise be possible have been left in the dust with overpriced hardware that had to run with ancient CPUs & GPUs. Those very people WILL want to update their hardware - at a reasonable price. So IF the IT sector crashes a bit people will flood it once an acceptable price level has been reached.
>>5460622921. Reside in New Zealand bunkers2. Launch nuclear missiles3. 99% of the human race is extinct4. Roll in with military technology you don't know exists to exterminate remaining 1%To describe further steps would result in our immediate demise to maintain traceability
>>5460606022008 crash fucked the jobs market for years as well as trying to buy a house (lol we thought we could buy houses back then) quickly followed by Obama's Cash For Clunkers which destroyed every used car under $2,500 forever destroying the used car market. It was a shitty time to be a poor person. Rich fags just ride it out. My job depends on tourist rich fags coming through buying our slop so it'll be a bummer for me but if you work for something that isn't effected by that you won't notice much.>>546060838>The U.S. Copyright Office (USCO) has repeatedly stated that copyright requires human authorship. A work created “by a machine or mere mechanical process” without human creative control is ineligible for registration and is effectively in the public domainHave fun with the IP jew lawyers when you claim your thing is spechul somehow and then seethe and cope when another AI scrapes your data and does it better and you're left with your dick in your hand.
>>546061722Well... Today there are alternatives to the Dollar AND the old stability isn't there anymore AND people are actually willing to switch instead of being dragged into the USA's debt black hole just because they've to use the Dollar as trade currency.
>>546067624Who survives the mass extermination? Will they kill all the browns and blacks and just jews and white shabbos remain? Will the asian beauties survive?
>>546058781>>546059248>>546059383>>546059383>>546059450>>546059586>jeets will post a chart like this while delusionally gloating about how much cheap retard labor has pumped the priceCool, thanks for unwittingly helping to engineer a massive financial crisis in my country for under $60k/year!
>>546064964>>546057179we've really gone from sicilian mafia looting of pension funds to paypal mafia looting of pension funds haven't we
>>546064990But is it a bigger cope than the converse view where AI is also magically cheaper and more efficient, which has yet to be proven in virtually all sectors it'll be applied to."Human compute" is remarkably efficient at many things and provides a whole range of capabilities that AI has yet to be capable of performing, with usually little more than either education or on the job training.Not to mention many analysts seem very myopic in terms of pretending or simply not knowing how much of ie manufacturing has already been virtually entirely automated and roboticized for decades. Those robots won't magically become an order of magnitude more efficient than they were, which is highly, by adopting AI. In fact plenty of them already used some types of ML and the ones that didn't wouldn't benefit or even need AI. In a sense, literally 80-90% of the robotics "revolution" in manufacturing has already taken place. What will humanity gain by laying off the remainder of human workforce and automating the rest? Not a whole lot, and we certainly won't magically become so much more efficient that it magically creates tons of added "value" out of thin air, contrary to the AI marketing blurbs.It's actually closer to the opposite than what you're suggesting. It's AI utopians who are making the extraordinary claims that have yet to be borne out in reality and likely won't. Yes it's an interesting new sector, field and capability, but no, it can't do many jobs better, not yet anyway, and given 8 billion people would be a lot of idle hands, we should seriously consider whether we don't want to use our power to shape our future through ie elected governments to legislate some measure of protection of human labor and employment.Meanwhile, the AI bubble will certainly pop and is largely a scam, only few companies (like nvidia and others) produce actual tech, even some of those are in on it which will cost them. It won't be the critics' or "luddites" fault when it does.
>>546061965Logical economic assumptions don't matter to the jews, they'll ban personal computers just to spite the goyim, even if the AI bubble implodes and RTX 5090s sell for $1.99 and a sloppy blowjob on the used market
>>546060838The models are nearly already a commodity. That ship is sailing, and fast. Google has already recognized that. Anthropic and OpenAI will likely be swallowed up. Nvidia is also facing ASIC devices that dramatically speed up AI inferencing so that linear demand just isn't there for at least GPUs. The technology is real, the assumptions about the market and the stock valuations aren't.
>>546069364>which has yet to be proven in virtually all sectors it'll be applied toto the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been proven in ANY sector yet.there is a famous study from 2024 or 2025 where they tested it with software devsthey (the devs) thought they were like 20% faster using it, in actuality they were slower>What will humanity gain by laying off the remainder of human workforce and automating the rest?you need to separate the political and economic problem of how do we deal with everyone (or close to it) being unemployedwith the technological gain that is not needing people to waste their lives doing shit that a machine can dothe latter is a good thing in and of itselfwhether we can deal with the former is another issue>It's AI utopians who are making the extraordinary claims that have yet to be borne out in reality100% >and likely won'tyou don't own a crystal ballnobody else does eithermy best guess is that current AI will not actually manage to displace a large portion of the labor force, not even the white collar part of itit will be just more productivity gains, once it matures enough to even offer thatbecause again, afaik, no one has been able to prove ANY productivity gains yet>the AI bubble will certainly popprobablyunless they're saved by RSI actually occurring, which i very much doubtbut yes, if that happens, its openAI and anthropic IPO'ing and pension funds and indexfags holding the bag >and is largely a scam100% the circular trade between nvidia, the hyperscalers, the datacenter builders, and the ai labs is obvious to anyone who has bothered to read anything more serious than a tiktok videoactually scratch that, im pretty sure there are tiktoks about it too
>>546070567>The models are nearly already a commodityyupbarring RSI occuring, there is no other way for the frontier labs to outpace anyone enough to warrant the sort of price premiums they need to make the math worknot when china is offering 95% of the perf for 10-20% of the cost. oh, and its open weights so you can run it on your own hardware (well, rented hardware, you won't be running kimi k3 on your laptop anytime soon)>Google has already recognized thatgoogle is probably fuckedtheir main pillar, search, is basically deadwho the fuck googles and suffers through ads and SEOmaxxed garbage when you can just ask chatgpt or whoever the same question>inb4 chatgpt will get ads toothen use a chinese open model, those don't have ads :)you don't need frontier perf to run a search, a local qwen is more than adequate>Anthropic and OpenAI will likely be swallowed upprobably dumped on pension funds and indexfags via IPOwill die soon aftergiven what they've already spent and what they've committed to spend, math doesn't work (except if RSI, see above)>Nvidia is also facing ASIC deviceswell, its complicatedon the one hand, building an ML gpu is much, *much*, MUCH easier than building a gaming gpuML is basically just matrix multiplies and trivial activation functionsBUTnvidia has a big moat called CUDA. its what all the ML devs know how to write, its what all existing frameworks are built onBUTat a certain scale, it makes sense to pay the engineering cost to write in not-cuda, if you get enough savings on the hardwareso, the big companies will do that, either with their own chips or from whatever startup manages to make a compelling casenvidia will likely continue to dominate the rent-some-compute hardware market, as smaller labs will not want to pay the write-in-not-cuda costsand also, you missed another point:there are TONNES of nvidia chips just sitting on ass in warehouses currentlynvidia makes them faster than the datacenters can be built :)
>>546069364If you have five workers that spend 20% of their time doing BS, then if that bs is automated with AI you can sack one worker and reallocate the remaining meaningful work to the other four.
>>546058940Any stock chart technical analysts here?Will these charts make the final right shoulder of a head and shoulders pattern?
>>546057179lol good. fuck white people
>>546057273lol I just threw a box of 1000 DDR5 in the trash cause I'm done with computers. don't even want the money just wanted to fuck over white people
>>546060328>no politician will ever allow their legacy to be another great depression.Who here wants to tell me what he has to lose? What? Were the history books faggot leftists write gonna paint him in a good light?
