Why are Miggers against healthcare again?
Dems say good so me say bad
>>546059183They would rather spend that money bombing iran and giving it to israel
>>546059183>>546059297>YOU will be paying for Sheniquah's heart transplant when she smoked, drank and ate KFC every day for 10 years and now is dying.retards.
OK who pays for it then
>>546059183they want more money for billionaires instead of healthcare
it would actually save you roughly a trillion but ok
>>546059386.. doesn't israel have public healthcare?
>>546059386You already do this anyway Black people get hospital treatment
>>546059481in a way yes its kinda paid mostly by the American taxpayer though
>>546059386Spoiler: You're already paying for it now. Retard
>>546059425Cut military spending a little bit. How can you be the richest country on earth but pretend you don't have money for health care?
>>546059183because it's a zero sum game. if a migger's mom got cancer, but then they're allowed the same free treatment that a brown person would also get, so they'd rather just have their mom die of cancer.i speak from experience, because my boomer christian conservative grandparents literally believe this. free healthcare means brown people get healthcare, so my family member deserved to die a painful death for not working hard enough for good health insurance.
>>546059183It’s not going to happen. Just watch. Senate will do jackshit as usual
>>546059386And yet, miggers were gloating about how they were going to give ALL Sheniquah's a $5000 cheque if miggers were re-elected. Possibly the largest wealth transfer in the history of your entire country.
>>546059560ZOG BLESS THE JEW ESS GAY
>>546059554Yeah but they won't do that. They'll just tax workers more and put the excess in their pockets
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?Why are NIGGERS so dumb they don't understand that Communism doesn't work?
Because in the long term it will make my life worseBut also because my state is already a blue state and increased the threshold at which you qualify for medicare to 40k or something, but have the power to make it cover everyone regardless of income, so I'm not really sympathetic to 'do nothing democrat's holding healthcare and university education hostage.
>>546059386If it is federally funded, your taxes don't pay for it. All federal spending is newly issued money. Medicare for All would REDUCE prices and also eliminate tens of thousands of private sector insurance jobs.It would be a deflationary event.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhF1jO4ZbM
>>546059183>M-MUH SOSHULISM or somethingMiggers only tolerate socialism for billionaire elites, big corporations, and Israeli citizens. Everyone else gets hardcore capitalism
We can’t have public healthcare, that’s socialism! Now where’s the 5000 dollar check Trump promised me?
If you have low income you literally get free healthcare. Even if you aare middle class all it takes is some extra paperwork
>>546059183Why don't blue states make a pact and do it together?
FREE STUFF FOR NIGGERS AND ILLEGAL INVADERS!!!!!
>>546059554Military cuts won't be enough. People are retarded. They believe that military spending is why the debt keeps climbing when the reality is that the largest expense in the American Federal Government is Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. Those programs have mandatory spending increases every year and you would have to cut military spending down to almost nothing to afford the massive healthcare cost of the spic-nig cycle.
>>546059386Even if we didn't have medicare you pay for others medical treatment through your insurance. Insurance is a socialist concept.
>>546059818Because States aren't currency issuers.
>>546059183Because I don't want to pay money for your insulin after you get to be 400 pounds.
>>546059560Should've been you, then.
>>546059560Look at this faggot being sad that brown people are dying from their own choices
>>546059737Yep
>>546059183I haven’t been to the hospital since I was born. I bet 90% of the health care costs are created by 13% of the population.
>>546059183the medicare bill will include some shit for abortions, some shit for tranny surgeries, something about kids being able to get hormone/hormone blocker shit from schools with parental consent/notice. since it's related to medicare, there will also be something included firearms, tranny bathroom shit, and of course a tax on something related to 'pay' for it
Why don't they ever do it? It's just another tool to get votes from idiots who never learn from repetitive empty promises...They have no policies except Trump is bad...Wake up you useful idiots...
>>546059297So you think segregation was a bad thing?
>>546060063*without parental notice or consent
>>546059852The debt is climbing because we run a large, structural trade deficit and therefore deficit spending by the currency issuing government is the only way for the private sector (that's us) to run a surplus.Now if you wanted to eliminate that "debt" (even though it's literally not an actual problem if you understand how money is actually created), you could just bring the interest rate below the growth rate and it will gradually go away.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0OFY7W3Qs
>>546059183I will subsidize israel before i subsidize minorities. We need to trust that insurance companies have our best interests in mind
>>546059719>All federal spending is newly issued money.You can't possible be this retarded
>>546059852>you would have to cut military spending down to almost nothingGood do it then
>>546060063>>546060104Yeah i can see these perverted godless freaks doing something like that
>>546059183>>546059297Where to start? With the fact that keeping nonwhite birthrates up and nonwhite infant mortality down is not in the national interest? With the fact that Obongocare was such an embarassing disaster which did nothing but skyrocket healthcare costs across the board? With the fact that all the great examples of socialized medicine that leftist retards used to point to like Canada, Bongladesh, or Yuropooristan are now absolute dumpster fires of dysfunction and literally bankrupting those states? OP, as always, literally cannot stop sucking cocks
>>546059183Everything in this 2 year span will be vetoed and nothing will happen except more niggers, spics, gooks, jeets, and other subhuman filth pouring into this country, inflation going up, and zoomies and gen alpha kids getting even more retarded until this country collapses
>>546059183There's no cure for miggers thus universal healthcare won't benefit them.
>>546059902you're not wrong to point out the contradiction, but maybe instead regulate the slop your kwik ways and pizza huts are selling? tax the shit out of sugary drinks, and stop subsidizing the corn syrup industry.
>>546059902You already do, dumbass. Only employed Whites don't recieve medicare.
>>546060136I can't imagine unironically believing that the federal government would need to collect taxes from people who literally can't get dollars until the government spends them into existence before it could spend.
>>546059183We're not, we're against creating another giant unaccountable federal beurocracy to manage it.If you really want universal healthcare let us implement a voucher system
you have to get rid of private hospitals if you're gonna do medicare for all otherwise you just get inflated costs across the board.
>>546059386the difference between private and public health insurance isnt that you arent paying for Shaniqa (you do in both cases), its the you are paying 30% tip to the company owners.
>>546059183Because my taxes, which already amount to way more than the average American makes in a year, will go higher. And instead of getting top-tier care when I need it, I'll have to wait in line behind hourly workers and other useless eaters for some retarded jeet "doctor" to misdiagnose me and prescribe me ibuprofen.
>>546059183Government having the ability to decide who does and does not deserve care, how quickly you can receive care, and if you should just kill yourself instead. Plenty of living examples of this happening.You retarded?
>>546059183>Pour Trillions of dollars into fraud schemes for niggers and illegal immigrants while lowering quality of care, extending wait times, and permanently enshitifying healthcare in the United States so some 3rd worldist dune coon sandnigger can grand stand polticallyNo. I dont think I will.
>>546060097yes, actually. segregation appears to have spawned this 'black culture' mentality. it's too late now but forcing assimilation would have been better.. one society, one standard of behavior
>>546059386There will also be a 5 year queue that shaniqua will get priority listing on while your mother dies waiting
>>546059183The dems had both houses and the presidency at one time and did jackshit for healthcare.>wE'lL dO iT tHiS tImEFuck off
>>546059806>>546059852This, we are already bankrupting ourselves due to Medicare, Medicaid, and Obongocare, all of this should be repealed. Let the boomers die, let the niggers and spics and AIDS-riddled faggots die, and watch how quickly you can suddenly afford a house
>>546059719>newly issued money>deflationaryThis is why you dont want democrats setting fiscal policy.Yes, jews, israel, bombing brown kids blah blah blah.Democrats won rightfully so we are unfortunately all going to have to learn this first hand, but democrats suck with money.
>>546060152I mean the American healthcare system right now sits at a very odd limbo, on one hand Obongocare is an absolute trashfire. On the other hand though not only you are at the mercy of insurance companies but also you guys have these insane "gotta wait 3 months for an unqualified nigger or kike or niggerkike". And also America is overly litigious too so. That medical system honestly is such an absolute shitshow to navigate. Somehow worse than ours btw and ours isnt fucking good (especially with retardmaxxer Adonis on the helm) but it does have good doctors across the board.
>>546060063And a few billion dollars for israel because democrats do that shit too.
>>546060215how would that work?
>>546060213Printing money causes inflation. If you increase the supply of dollars by 10% you reduce their purchasing power by 10% so the effect on the average person is the same as if you had issued no money at all and just taxed him 10% instead. The only point of the exercise is to conceal the taxation which is occurring
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?DEY JUS NEED HEALTHCARE AND FOODhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr-OdIYBrTg
>>546060267Yeah that too, there is so much fraud in there its fucking insane. Especially if you travel upward towards care homes man. You have people like this piece of shit right here that Trump pardoned and many others. They just steal steal and steal from ANY federal grants. So the whole thing is trapped in quicksand, either understaffed, underequipped or both.
>>546060524Inflation is too much money chasing too few goods. You are making the assumption that the amount of goods and services stay the same.And again, all federal spending is newly issued money. Every. Single. Time. Taxes destroy money. Read the article that was provided to you. This is not actually super complicated.
>>546059554Deal, we pull out of NATO. We've exceeded a trillion on NATO funding every year. That can be put to work helping the US citizen.
>>546059183Are you scared to say the nigger word?
>>546060180That is one way. Another would be to cut the costs of medical procedures and medication. But no, they want the government to have yet another leash.
>>546061014its a combination of miga and nigger hence migger
>>546061016>Another would be to cut the costs of medical procedures and medication.That's what single payer does. The government becomes the only one providers can negotiate with, so they have the ability to set the price.
>>546059183Experiencing the last 44 years in France taught me one thing, for a society there are things that are mutually exclusive:-generosity and open borders-democracy and open borders-non-repressive police and open borders-treating leftist humanely (when they insist on having all of the above) and your country having a semi-decent future
>>546059183They are low iq brainwashed niggers who are only good at running in circles in their churches and giving money to israel
>>546059719>Medicare for All would REDUCE pricesYou shut for brains said the same thing about Obamacare. All it did was create a closed loop monopoly for the insurance companies and hospitals to price gouge. So how the fuck will expanding that even farther fix it's core problem?
>>546059183Stop being so fat.
>>546059386Yes, AND you’ll pay for your son’s teachers to troon him out. Because you lost.
>>546059183Why don’t you come to a compromise then instead saying free healthcare for all?
>>546059183Did he actually say this?Trump has been quite vocal that he's going to veto every bill Dems put forward, which means they'll need 11 Repubs to cross the aisle and vote to override the vetos, which will never happen.The next two years are about to be historically boring.
>>546059183Because leftists want healthcare for all plus open borders.
>>546059183I'm not paying for foreigner's healthcare, I'd rather shoot them at the border and let their corpses deter others.
>>546060765Interesting how you have nothing to say about Israel. An Yisrael Chazirim I curse nigger Vishnu
>>546059183Even if M4A has criticisms, what does MIGA actually vouch for that could help Americans and the veterans they claim to care so much about?
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?Because there are only 2 important things in American Politics to Miggers:1: Corporate tax cuts for pedophiles, and 2: Wars for IsraelThey don't want any other policy.
>>546059183because I don't want to give more free money to shitskins, muslims, jeets, and jews. Maybe if our country was 100 million and it was nothing but Whites I would be for free healthcare.
>>546061205> Trump has been quite vocal that he's going to And we all know the man’s word is good as gold. No new wars, anybody?> which will never happen Rats are fleeing the sinking ship, miggerism is dead and Trump is a lame duck.
>>546061094>Muh government learning programs Lol, LMAO even
>>546059425Probably the same people who are already paying twice the healthcare costs per capita of any other western country, but receiving no personal benefit for it.It’s funny how nobody asks “who’s going to pay for it” when it comes to filling the pockets of shareholders and lobbyists. You’re already getting taxed up the ass.
>>546061213> It was real in my mind
>>546059386you and shaniqua will have free healthcare and you'll like it
>>546061306You’re literally funding healthcare companies and still need to pay to use their services. It’s the most fucked system I’ve ever seen.
>>546061343Miggers have never once asked how we’re going to pay for Trump’s war for Israel. All miggers should be publicly hanged for treason.
>>546061365>pretending to not understand again
>>546059481And I will give them every single cent I have!! END OF STORY!
>>546061401I know, and they want it to be EVEN MORE FUCKED. The ship for free healthcare sailed away 50 years ago when a jew passed a law requiring infinity "immigration" from third world countries like india.
>>546060401>Let the boomers die, let the niggers and spics and AIDS-riddled faggots die, and watch how quickly you can suddenly afford a houseThis is correct, hence the problem will never actually be addressed or fixed.
>>546061427I curse Israel. I support all policies that make Israel loving traitors seethe. We should send all the money we give to Israel to Iran instead to fund their nuclear program. Just to make kikes like (You) and Mark Levin sneethe.
>>546060011Terminal white guilt, frankly whites should just go extinct. There's no fixing it.
>>546061461I curse Israel. Am Yisrael Chazirim. I curse nigger Vishnu. I eat beef and pork. For these reasons I can never be a migger.
>>546061516>sneetheYou're so fucking gay. You're not a serious person. Discourse is wasted on you. You are a literal subhuman, and you need to kill yourself.
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare againBecause they tried to murder everyone a few years ago.
>>546061614Lmao cursing Israel really got you clutching your pearls huh? AM YISRAEL CHAZIRIM NUKES FOR IRAN
>>546059183They invent a hypothetical person in their head that did something to make them unworthy of help. Then project that made-up person onto the whole country. Luckily retards like that are a shrinking minority every year.
>>546059719That's not how any of this works
>>546059506This. EVEN IF you're a hardcore racist, single-payer healthcare is still in your best interest. We are paying for it regardless, but right now we're paying it at rates determined by two deeply-intertwined industries (healthcare and insurance) with every possible reason to collude. EVEN IF you hate niggers and don't want to treat them, you're going to pay for it anyway. The question is whether we want to pay a lot for it or less for it.
>>546061402>Hospitals price gouging >Insurance companies price gouging >Rampant third party services fraudFuck off until this is addressed, and no mandating government spending will not stop price gouging it industrializes it.
>>546061666Not fast enough. Miggers need to be rounded up, put in labor camps, and publicly hanged on livestream when they outlived their usefulness in the coal mines and stone quarries.
>>546059719Retard. That's even worse
>>546061703Cool it with the anti semitism.
>>546061614This post^
>>546059183>let's trust the guy who endorsed vax mandates to make healthcare decisions for everyone in the nation
>>546060049>health careThats free. Diet, excercise and sunlight. Thata what people need. Instead, ((health care)) provides synthetic pharmaceutical compounds. Its undeniably jewish
>>546061665I don't give a fuck about kikes. Never did, never will.I genuinely hate you low IQ shitskin retards who are actively destroying this board. Kill yourself.
>>546059386We're already paying that for the niggers. We're also paying for all the stein, shonbers and kikels in pissrael.Give it to the whites.
>>546061327costs of medication are much lower in canada due to single payer
>>546061703> Defense contractor kikes price gouging > Israel kikes price gouging> American kikes speculatingFuck off until this is addressed, and no mandating testosterone resting will not stop price gouging it industrializes it. Am Yisrael Chazirim!
>>546061809Lmao sure you don’t, miggernigger. That explains why you exclusively get mad when kikes lose and celebrate when they win.
>>546060217>otherwise you just get inflated costs across the board.Have you sen the Obama Care numbers?
(shit)medicare for all (who only make so much and dont have employer heath insurence)
>>546060435>at the mercy of insurance companiesNo youre not. Break the jewish spell
>>546059506>You already do this anyway>Black people get hospital treatmentSo why exactly are Democrats so obsessed with universal healthcare then, if we already have it?
>>546061461>The ship for free healthcare sailed away 50 years ago when a jew passed a law requiring infinity "immigration" from third world countries like india.50 year ago when America as 90% white the excuse was "we can't have free healthcare that's GOMMUNISM". Miggers need to stop pretending they oppose healthcare for any other reason than they're all spiritually fuck you got mine boomers who believe taxpayer money should only go towards wars for Israel and bailouts for corporations.
>>546061821>But I pay out of pocket less for medsLol, LMAO even
>>546061850Again, you're too stupid to talk to. You resort to these retarded talking points and make this board unusable. I hope you get shot by your inbred cousin.
>>546061947This. Everyone is tired of migger excuses and sees right through their pilpul. Miggers are ontologically evil and sadistic spiritual kikes. It’s that simple, they belong in camps.
>>546061666>Then project that made-up person onto the whole countryHow many vax-scenes did you take?
>>546059481Israel doesn't have millions of obese blacks. The few blacks they do have are Ethiopians and even then, they tricked most of those women into infertility.
>>546061823The kikes get far more from the profits of price gouging in the US medical industry than the entire defense budget. No izzat 4 uhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget#Major_expenditure_categories
>>546061947Can you read you dumb kike?
>>546061994and medicade pays 46 billion for drugs... but that doesn't come close to the 467 billion spent privately per year!
>>546062012Thanks for the (You)s, miggerfaggot kike. Am Yisrael Chazirim
>>546062168Got it, so Israel is le heccin based and harmless greatest ally.
>>546061811>its ALREADY bad on the white taxpayer for all the programs that currently exist>so make it even worse with yet another program, things will finally turn the corner for whites now i promise!huh? why didnt the other programs turn the corner
>>546062326>No goyim that is the bad jewDamn we have an insurance industry kike here.
>>546059183because nobody in the industry can be trusted to not to lie just to enrich themselves?
>>546061947>50 year ago when America as 90% white the excuse was "we can't have free healthcare that's GOMMUNISM"go ahead. name names. show me the big famous debate from the 1970s on free universal healthcare
>>546061777hah fuckin checkem
>>546062263>Stop supporting Israel>No don't pull that support for IsraelLol, LMAO even https://www.trade.gov/us-healthcare-mission-israel
>>546062326israel is bad because its full of jews, and jews engage in jewish trickerywhat is the early life verdict on bernie sanders, the subject of this thread and the man you are de facto defending
>>546059297Das riteNext time try reverse psychology
they will pass an Assault Weapons Ban and Trump will sign it.
>>546059386>you have to pay 100,000 to get a cast on your broken leg because I don't want black people to have free healthcareThis is incredibly retarded
>>546062845you think giving Black people free healthcare will bring the price down?
>>546059440Mexico does too but they come to our hospitals.
>>546059183I mean obamba care is in a death spiral so I'm sure taking care of the wild beasts that infest our once great cities would make fiscal sense, or something.
>>546062879Giving yourself free healthcare would bring the price down.
>Government pays farmers (welfare queens) to grow infinite corn>Turn infinite corn into animal feed and corn syrup>Cheap subsidized sugary slop gets pumped into the system en masse>Millions of retarded people (churned out by our abysmal education system and multiple generations of terrible parents) eat said sugary slop and do drugs and become burdens on society>Their healthcare is not only paid for, but entire industries exist to squeeze more dollars out of subsidized healthcare via fraud>BUT I have to fork over even more of my paycheck for privatized health insurance that doesn't cover anything and I have to pay more out of pocket when I actually need it anywayThe solution is to force every single person onto a single-payer system with death panels. And yes I DO want the death panels that deny care to morbidly obese people and pack a day smokers. When I turn 80 feel free to push me down the stairs, it's only fair.
>>546059183>56 seat majority New math?
>>546059183Test
>>546062433Faggot, money isn't real.>Printer go brrrrrrrrr!
>>546059425It is Medicare, we have to pay for it ourselves, and it is a mandatory payment just like it is for Seniors now. Unless you qualify for Medicaid, but I am homeless and have no job, and I don't qualify for Medicaid, so I don't know what you have to do to get that. I think we have to not have pink skin to get that government program.
I live in a country with "free healthcare".17% of all federal income goes towards healthcare.29% of my states income goes towards healthcare.Yet i still have to pay to see doctors because the free ones suck. I'd rather have 17% of my federal taxes back and have my state cut taxes by 28%. Which would cause untold amounts of economic prosperity.It's a scam. Never pay the government to do something you could just pay someone yourself to do.
>>546059183no chance with Hakeem and Schumer
>>546060435>I mean the American healthcare system right now sits at a very odd limbo, It certainly is not. You pay you get treated. I pay cash for Drs visits. There is no wait and believe it or not drs love cash patients. No one wants to deal with the government.
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?A low man sees any other person's good fortune as a slight on himself.
>>546061934Can none of the people calling me a migger explain this?If we already do this then we already have universal healthcare. If blacks can do it, then logically Whites can also do it, that's the way things work in this country.So why do we need "muh healthcare" if we already have "muh healthcare"?
>>546062939There is no option with free/cheap healthcare. Either >works like it does now>costs $100k and niggers get it for freeor>taxes go up>only you pay taxes, niggers do not>costs $100k and niggers get it for free
>>546059425Elon musk
>>546063060I had to go to the free clinic and get denied my blood thinners to treat my covid vaccine condition and then get sick again, and go to an ER and test positive for the heart stress hormone before I could get back on blood thinners.But everything is free now, even though I don't qualify for Medicaid.
>>546063060Would you like to pay 33% of your income for the cheapest healthcare, that requires you to pay for doctor visits and doesn't cover anything until after you've incurred $15K in expenses? And the healthcare company, without any doctors on staff, can decide arbitrarily to deny payment for any claim based on their actuarial needs.That's the state of healthcare in the US.
>>546059183fuck that noise, not paying for shit lib to sit on his ass all day feck em, just kill em and save money
>>546060493What do you mean how would it work?Same way school vouchers would work, or how SNAP works.You just leave healthcare as a private market and if your income is below a certain threshold you get a subsidy to pay for healthcare.We already give out ebt cards that people use to buy food, giving out the same thing but for doctors and prescriptions would be trivial.Yes there will be abuse, but its better than nationalizing the entire healthcare industry.
>>546059386Black people already get that shit. M4A benefits white people because Democrats are the real racists.
>>546059183The government does not produce healthcare.The government redistributes wealth by force to fund Medicare for all.When you engage in wealth redistribution to fund massive schemes like Medicare for all you cause irreparable damage to the economy and create a massive welfare state that will invariably collapse. Welfare states are super unproductive because the productive are taxed heavily when they produce, and the lazy entitled masses are paid handsomely with handouts and entitlements for doing nothing.
>>546062671He makes miggers and pissraelis seethe and I love it when miggers suffer. Btw you lost tranny
>>546061381The wait times will be insane so in practice neither will have healthcare.
>>546062659Am Yisrael Chazirim. You lost, tranny!
>>546063060No one cares about your fag-hole country. In the US an emergency room almost cost my mother 50k. the dipshit doctor examined her in the waiting room, did no x-rays or blood tests, and just gave her a pain shot. A few weeks later she got a bill for $50k for just that visit. Also, she was very sick and had to go to a different hospital that night.
>>546061402>deflect deflect deflect This thread is about healthcare, not the israeli war.
>>546063327You lost lol I hope they trans your kids and build a communist mosque next to your house
>>546063426>our jews are basedKikeslave
>>546059183>go to a waiting room full of loud niggers>stay sickI'll choose sick.
>>546059386People going to the emergency room without healthcare already increases your private insurance premiums. Also why are miggers so against their tax dollars going to hand-outs for poor people, but don't seem to mind their tax dollars going to hand-outs for rich people?
>>546063514Miggers don’t actually care about the budget, so I’m not arguing with bad faith lying kikes on your bad faith kike terms> saaaar you must be open minder and subscribe to standards I would never ever hold myself toFuck off, you lost
>>546063601>>go to a waiting room full of loud niggersThat's every hospital now. Niggers get gibbs already. Why shouldn't whites?
>>546062072Idk 6 7
>>546063329>You just leave healthcare as a private market and if your income is below a certain threshold you get a subsidy to pay for healthcareOh so just like EBT, student loans, healthcare works now which is pour Federal money into it until regular people can no longer afford it.Awesome.
>>546059386>nooooooooo don't use public taxes to save yourself from dying preventable death >all taxes must be sent to Israel, public healthcare is bad because of retarded race reasonsanon really?
Will I still keep my Blue Cross PPO Cadillac plan?https://www.npr.org/2009/03/19/112979225/cadillac-insurance-plans-explained
>>546063582And you lost. Cry about it. Miggerism is dear. Israel’s days are numbered. Iran WILL have a nuke, and your sons WILL be chemically castrated with your tax dollars.And you won’t do shit, loser.
>>546063701Means testing is retarded, all it does is increase demand without touching supply.
>>546059386
>>546063423The bankrupting element is elder care. If M4A covers everyone under retirement age it will be fine. Working age people don't spend much time in hospitals on average.
>>546059183Healthcare for whom?
>>546059183Americans love getting raped by insurance for some reason
>>546063751Okay then
>>546059297It's still no supermajority, but it's close. They still need 4 "Republicans" to hope on board with them if they ever wanted to veto proof any of the bills they try to push through. They also WILL nuke the filibuster and they very likely WILL get four "Republicans" from time to time to override a veto from Trump.Hope it was fun voting for Democrats to destroy the country. I'm moving to Mexico.
>>546059719The sad thing is people still believe "muh money printing" means cpi inflation. Fucking idiots. Yes this would be massively deflationary as all the jews working in health insurance would finally have to get a real job instead of price raping people who need healthcare.
>>546063923Americans. What else do you think it's for?
>>546060674Bodied that nigger.
>>546059183I already have healthcare. I am against paying for someone else's in addition to paying for my own.
>>546061104>Liberty, Equality, FraternityPick two
>>546064245Define american
>>546064245Healthcare for the 200 million visa holders and 100 million illegals, 5 month waiting times, and its all paid for by (you)
>>546059183it's already bad enough as it is
>>546061154TBF, the Obamacare we got had little relation to the Obamacare that was originally proposed, specifically BECAUSE it was jammed with stuff to protect and benefit the insurance companies instead of driving down costs in order to get it passed.Tell the insurance companies to fuck off and die, and suddenly healthcare gets cheaper. Its that easy.
>>546064178meant for >>546059183
>>546059554Medicare accounts for about 20% of healthcare spending in the US right now. If we passed Medicare for All, it would mean quintupling what we spend on Medicare. Even if we assume economies of scale and the government screwing over doctors (as they do already) get that down to only doubling, it won't change the fact we spend twice as much on Medicare as the military already. We could cut the military to zero and it wouldn't cover a 50% increase in Medicare costs, much less 400%.
>>546060524Lets all laugh at this retard! Aaahahahahhahahahaha.You really think you cant more print money and cause deflation? Or are you too retarded that you are mixing the change in money supply(inflation) with the change in consumer prices(cpi inflation). Because if dildos your mom uses cost 500 each and i give bob 100,000 newly printed dollars to create more of those dildos the supply of your moms dildos it goes up then the price of your moms dildos goes down. This is just an example how fresh money can lower prices you pay. The key is how is newly printed money used for. Either it can go towards productive business investment or it can go to consumption. Take a guess at what raises or lowers prices.
>>546059386>implying we don’t do this already NGMI faggot
>>546064099Lol migger loser
>>546061689You are arguing with a JEW that is using race as a way to bait racists into continuing the policies that are making that JEW loads of free unearned money. It takes nothing to look at what we have and see it makes zero sense. You pay either way. We just get rid of the middle man jews with singlepayer.
>>546064575You're wrong migger
>>546059589keep sucking that nigger cock, mutt boi
>>546064575This is correct, but the primary way that medicare for all would be funded would come from eliminating state and federal subsidies and payouts to insurance companies because they no longer have a place in the system and that money can be spent on healthcare directly instead, combined with taxes.Yes, people will pay more in taxes, but the taxes that they pay to fund the healthcare everyone get will still be LESS on average than they are already paying for insurance-based care which often doesn't even provide good coverage. The government providing healthcare at or near cost will be cheaper than healthcare as a for-profit enterprise, and its insane to think that it could ever be otherwise without assuming that CEOs of insurance companies get their giant salaries and bonuses literally spawning from thin air.
>>546064283The way insurance works you already are. You think hospitals are running a charity? Even brown nigger that stiffs the hospital the hospital just raises their prices and when whites use the hospital the insurance is paying the hospitals prices which got raised by niggers then the insurance raises the prices you are paying. You are paying for it either way, with single payer you just cut out the (((insurance company))) paycheck.
>>546065045Perhaps for-profit healthcare is a bad idea
>>546059183>Democrats pass universal healthcare>Trump vetos>In 2028 Dems win everythingGo ahead Trump. Let's see who blinks first.
>>546064886>gay interracial porn right at the forefront of the mindTypical maple migger.
>>546065091Then you have to answer the question of how you get enough people to work in an industry that isn't for profit.But honestly I imagine just restructuring all healthcare companies into non-profit services overseen by a local board would fix that. It's how my local utility/ISP is and they still manage to pay better than most the companies in the area. But that still doesn't answer the question of how you run healthcare without it's inflated costs entirely.
>>546064178Removing the filibuster wouldn't happen if they didn't hold the presidency as bills would just get vetoed. Also it probably will never happen because both sides love the filibuster. How do you think the Democrats stopped Trump these last two years?
>>546059183i will be in favor of medicare if i can opt out and therefore not have to pay taxes for it
>>546064812OY VEY THINK ABOUT ALL THE JEWISH LAWYERS AND INSURANCE COMPANIES.
>>546059183hilarious in red (now blue) state Texas there's usually a hospital in every county, at least the higher populated counties, that is funded by the property taxes in that county and you don't have to pay anything to be seen at those hospitals
>>546059183who the fuck cares about politics its not like they will stop bending over to "people" with money. take control of your own health.
>>546065091Correct. There are a number of industries that should never be run as for-profit because they incentivize harmful practices. Prisons, Hospitals, and Higher Education should never be run as for profit. Because the act of optimizing those for money-making actively requires them to adopt a parasitic or psychopathic relationship with society and their 'consumers'. The only goal of for profit prisons is to have as many prisoners locked up as possible, whether or not they deserve to be there or their imprisonment is accomplishing any greater good becomes irrelevant. Encouraging recidivism becomes a business goal, despite the fact that this is bad for literally everyone else.Likewise, for-profit colleges don't care whether they are providing useful education or diplomas that mean anything, only that they have as many people paying tuition as possible and paying the highest tuition they can squeeze out of people, putting students into massive debt that they can't get out from under and all they got for that crippling debt was 4 years of adult daycare and a piece of paper that marginally qualifies them to work at Starbucks.
>>546059183dr my ass
>>546059183ohh so instead of addressing the reason for the high cost we just have government pay the high cost. see how that is a problem?
>>546064890Imagine how much money we would save when we catch health issues early instead of waiting until last fucking second because "i dont want my premimums to go up"or "i cant afford the bill that will show up in the next 3 months".
>>546065670They needs the shekels!
>>546067577haha yes that would be crazy anon, I'm sure no one would ever try to stop this from happening haha
>>546059183I already pay for government healthcare. It comes right out of my check. And yet, I don't receive it. FUCK OFF, THIEF! You just want to steal like a Batich person.
>>546066419Any business where you can make MORE by producing/providing LESS, either need to be non profit/nationalized/costplus or deregulated to have competition come in.
I don't want to go from a private room to a ward. I like being seen within an hour of my arrival to urgent care. I like getting appointments quickly. I don't want the state to come between me and my doctor, because in my experience the state majorly fucks up everything it touches
>>546059183Imagine losing your job and still have access to healthcare. It works great here in Canada. Not perfect but much better than being out of money because of copay insanity or just denied by insurance companies.
>>546059554Federally we spend almost twice as much on healthcare than the military. Federal health spending (medicare, medicaid, CHIP, and ACA subsidies) is something like $1.7 trillion vs 900 billion on the military.Our healthcare industry is corrupt as fuck is the thing. Spending won't fix this. They are just scamming Americans because they know they can get away with it. Look how much insulin costs in America vs other countries. Its highway robbery and throwing more money at the problem won't fix it.
>>546067914In our system, you're seen immediately if it's urgent care. No waiting, no delays. If you just have a headache, you'll wait.
>>546062939nothing is free, ever
>>546059183FRAUDAnd it has already been proven MULTIPLE TIMES.dems only know how to commit fraud.
>>546068277You do not live in canada.
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?At the ground level, while everyone was getting annoyed about virtue signaling, they overcorrected and decided to do the opposite and literally "vice signal" without considering how fucking degenerate it is.So now it's all>Poor people get no food stampsGo on a diet, nigger!>Cause a global crisis that fucks our alliesYeah! Should have helped us with the war that caused the crisis, huh?>Protect the names of pedophilesStatutory? I say mandatory, baby~!>Bomb an Iranian girl's schoolNERDS!!!
>>546059183I already pay for everything else for fucking feeloadersYou certainly don't pay net taxes if you think we should all pay moreAnd that's not even considering how fucked up an entirely government funded healthcare system would be
>>546069567Everyone should just quit their jobs collect gibs and pursue their hobbies and self study with their newfound free time, burden max the system until it collapses, go to hospital every time you have a headache or a cold etc etc etc
How does he plan on paying for it? Even zeroing military spending wouldn't be enough.
>>546069702yea might as well return to monke, better than becoming planet of the apes
>>546061401Your system literally can't work without replacement migration like every coutry that has universal healthcare. You have too few taxpayers for the amount of elderly alone so that's why you encourage old people to kill themselves.
Zero sum.
>>546064548Shame they had to vote on it to find out what was in it, eh?
>>546059183I would be okay with socialized medicine if this country was 90% White again. However since it's not, I refuse to allow my taxes to go towards medicine and procedures for morbidly obese nons and sandniggers that want me dead.
>>546059183This is unprecedented. For the first time in history, Democrats have a majority in the House and Senate. Therefore, Medicare for all will finally be passed!
>>546059183I hope that they decriminalize weed entirely and make it so that weed is treated the exact same as aspirin.
>>546059386And that is still cheaper than your private insurance when you make no claims.LMAO
>>546068709>/pol/ - FUCKING JEWS>/pol/ healthcare - I LOVE JEWS TAKE MY MONEY PRIVATE JEW INSURANCE MMMMM SUCK THAT JEW COCKKill yourselves.
>>546070633>your tax dollars go to pay people to make shit that's given away for freeIt's a loss-loss situation.
>>546071446This. The only socialism I'd accept is National Socialism, short of that, I do NOT want socialism
Who is going to pay for Sharqueisha's Healthcare, how are they going to pay for it, and how is it a good idea?
>>546059183>Federal Medicare for All legislation has never been brought to a floor vote in either the U.S. House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate.Never.Not once.Not ever.Even when Democrats held House, Senate, and Presidency.
>>546059425white people
>>546071819The same way the government pays for anything: by crediting a bank account.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqog
>>546070633The logic of this particular example is not good. I am not disputing zero-sum fallacy. But it is important to understand that imports are a benefit and exports are a cost.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8c9Z7Dexs
>>546070498Federal programs don't need taxpayer money to "pay for" them.It is entirely possible that we need immigration to physically provide the desired amount of services. It is entirely possible we don't need immigration to physically provide the desired amount of services. I don't know. But we don't need the immigrants to "pay for" it through taxes.
>>546059183You people are retarded.
>>546059554Excuse me but if you just give the slaves medical aid then they wont slave away their entire life in fear of dying from some crippling injury or disease. If you make slaves pay for their own medical care then they can never revolt.
>>546063706what about no money for shaniqua funneling the spic-nig cycle AND no money for israel?
>>546073300So you are going to revolt against a government paying for your precious pills?
>>546059183>Why are Miggers against healthcare again?Do you trannies want Isreal to go unprotected?
>>546059183They're too fat to go see a doctor
>>546073531I already have revolted, and I receive literally nothing from the (((government))). I would not even accept one single penny from the (((government))), they are evil and I hate evil.
>>546059183why do you persist using a meaningless buzzword? it's on the same level as every -ism leftoids use
>>546069102I do and been to the ER too many times.
>>546059386>>546060152>suddenly we care about race and White people Fuck off.
>>546059554>Cut military spending a little bitJust say you want Iran to get the bomb and Russia to rule the world.
>>546059386Doesn't she probably already have Medicaid and SNAP?
>>546059183Doctor advocating for big payouts from the government to fund their lavish lifestyles. No one made you spend all that money on 8 extra years of school. 300,000 medical malpractice deaths a year. Notice the left always talks about "giving people insurance" (a scam) and never about cutting costs.
>>546073549Yes
Filibuster, dummy. Do you understand it?
AND TAKE A TRILLION DOLLARS OUT OF BOG PHARMA'S POCKETS????FUCK YOU COMMIE
>>546063133>if we already have "muh healthcare"?We don't. We have a federal law that prohibits hospitals from refusing emergency treatment. A low income person goes to the hospital, they get treated, and they get sent a bill. They don't pay the bill. It causes rates to increase just like car insurance providers raise their rates because of an increase in claims (money they have to pay out/revenue they lose due to having to pay out cliams).
>>546059386Demonkikes troons never learn
