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>>546063683>>546063927
>>546063763ZTHDthanks for the bread
>>546064108cute badger
Why women like this
>>546064252Cuz they totally Silver Hoover Solstice fr senpai
>>546064252who is oksanok?
>>546064339Oksana, common meme name for average Ukrainian girl, like Natasha for Russian girls
>>546064411ah okay. let's go, oksanok to the front.
>>546064339Not me>>546064411Please translate
let the nVidia g00k be a warning, this is what happens when a man becomes a vagina-worshiping cuck...femoids drain a man masculine energy with their vaginas, this is what woman do. Now the g00k will lose the company he created and a huge portion of his wealth
drown banderites in semen
>>546064411isnt the meme name nastya tho
>porturapekike starts posting again
>>546064515ggl translate
>>546064515>brother and I went to the seaside.>anecdote:>A brother is fucking his sister and says:>>- Oh, it’s so nice being with you. Better than being with Mom.>The sister replies:>>I know. Dad told me.
>>546064727it's not "eats" it's "fucks"otherwise correct happy family
>>546064599>cuck...femoids drain a man masculine energy with their vaginas, this is what woman doT levels get a massive boost when you’re having sex multiple times a week. Hate to break it to you.
>>546064818
>>546064856I thought it hits a cap after a week of abstinence and ejaculating lowers it, not raises it.
>>546064856>T levels get a massive boost when you’re having sex multiple times a week. Hate to break it to you.mega kek! Literally the opposite, T levels drop a lot after sex
>>546064883
I have an idea we need to make a worldwide celebration dedicated to how much everyone should be loving Russia to prevent Russophobia.But there's also a second option -- we liberate every country on earth and torture to death very slowly & bloodthirstily each Russophobe cutting off each one of their limbs.
>>546063763>>546064915>>546062835 continue discussion
>>546065021>muh Russophobiai love it when Russians try to "capture" JEWestern anti-racist concepts/language to make use of them...RETARDS! Russians are White and Whites never get anti-racist protection, words-concepts like "Russophobe/phobia" not only don't have any effect but it makes the user sound goofy and someone who is trying to hard
>>546065151I'm russophobic
>>546065185but Ukrainians are Russians who got kicked in the head by a Polish mule and when they were stumbling back home they got a second kick in the head by a Judeo-American mule leading to irreversible retardation
>>546065072
>>546065279yes
>>546065151>Russophobe/phobia"So tired of this semantical circle jerking among people You know that i mean "anti-Russian sentiments/Russo-negativism"
Do people really vote for people with dysmorphia mental problems
why is Kiev so scary
>>546065354>why is Kiev so scaryCuz it's (((darkkk))), get it?!!! ПЫHЯл?!!! AхaхaхaхaххaхaэaэaOхoхoххoхoхoхoххoхoхo
>>546065354Go to bed!
>>546065417now I'm crying
>>546065471>now I'm cryingA Я зaтo opyнькyю eхeхeхeхeхeхeхeххeхeхeхeхeхeхeхeхe AAХХAХAХAAХХAAЭ ;)
>>546065279Your post kind of reminded me of CemNow I'm sad
Thanks for the bread.Z
Americans should ban Asians for saving their high tech tecnologies from stealing
>Ballistics again heading towards Kyiv/Kyiv region!RUN! HIDE!
>>546065354>>546065696
can I get hit please just a direct iskander
>>546065326black women are so masculine, that you cant really tell if its a female impersonator.asian men are so feminine, that they can easily impersonate a female.just a thought :)
CNN analized the video from the russian FAB strike on that school in Zapo on november 2.As you can see, the bunkersunder the school were full of children and aid works.But being serious, why is CNN dismantling hohol propaganda points on american tv?
I'm building palyanytsya drones in my kitchen I'm a danger to Russia you gotta kinzhal me now
>>546065460Nigga is just shamelessly stealing my swag
>>546065746>can I get hit please just a direct iskanderHe coзpeвший бaнaн eщё нeзя ecь, вaщe-т, ПЫHЯмaть нaдo, хoхлёнoк-мacлёнoк!!!!
>>546063763Pontificate this image
>>546065151spain was part of reich and lost to russians as part of reichby hitlers total war criteria you are all subhumans who sinned against ubermenschen, who won it - Russians
>>546065813
>>546065696>Reports of a strike on the "Epicenter" shopping center in Keev. Preliminary reports indicate the location is in the Obolon district
>>546065746you shall live to marry a Russian guy after the war
>Every inch of our land will be returned to Russia, one way or another - delegation head Medinsky.SAme shit as every other "negotiation", a big show for no real result, the russians won't give up on taking the land, which I believe goes all the way to odessa, and the hohols won't even recognize that they lost Crimea, much less the rest.
Ukraine regrets 'ceasefire' brokered by First Lady Melania Trump, expressing concern that a renewed Russian military presence in Oleshky will result in new waves of attacks across the Dnipro River. Democrats will correct this mistake and arm Ukraine heavily in 2027.
>>546066119that's banned in russia
>Bureau 1440 tests their service at the Northern Sea Route>Nuclear icebreaker "Ural" was equipped with one of company's terminals, which provided high-speed communication to the crew of the vessel.They are getting really fat with this, it'll take a while to have coverage for the whole world, but I'm guessing they'll have all of Europe covered by the middle of next year.
>More ballistics to Kyiv from Bryansk
>>546065895>lost to russiansMoreso to kikes and angloids in Washington & London The Russians in the red army my were just cannon fodderБлядь, ecли мы хoть чтo-тo, нaхyй, выигpaли в этoй eбaнoй жидoвcкoй мяcopyбкe, тaк этo клeймo шaббec-гoeвMopaль бacни: нe вхoди никoгдa a кoaлицию c aнглo-жидaмиЦapь тaкжe пoплaтилcя зa этo
>>546065869furries both of u
>>546066162Nigga, go to bed.
>>546066306I can forgive nagatoro for saying this cause he's stupid but I'm killing everyone else
I don't need to carry a weapon. I am the weapon!
>>546066406Where is he?
>South Korea says sanctions against Russia are hurting its businesses and economic interests.Worst koreans smelled blood on Trump for losing the midterms, and now they are testing the waters to abandon his sanctions.
>>546066435he's become a furry
>>546064108>>546064191It's all fun and games until you get turbo rabies.
While Merz is threatening to not approve the EU's 2027 budget if the nations don't agree on another 70 billion "loan" for ukraine, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria are denying his "blackmail".What happens if he really blocks the EU's budget?And is Merz really crazy enought to risk destroying the EU for ukraine?
>>546063763Most of the Ukraine map is on red alert.
>>546065886Distinct lack of AKs
>>546065895>who won it - RussiansIf we were to win, the whole world would be speaking Russian instead of English after WW2, дeды-eлды вoeвaли зa чyжиe интepecы aбcoлютнo
>>546065290Interesting, so it would seem Suriyak believes the North Lyman situation is even worse than I thought it was, same with Komar area. Granted the Ukrainians did lose substiantial land in every other front of the Donbas Arc and the Russians also made new pushes around the Eastern flank of Orekhov and more inroads into the Northern Kharokov oblast but these localized successes seem to show a change in the strategy of the Ukrainian high command away from holdkrieg to actual specific allocation of culmination blows designed to slow the Russian advance. Now to what end this is due to a shifting dynamic in leadership or balance in the war I can't definitively say rn, but on both the Komar and Lyman fronts what I generally see is the Ukrainians were closer to strategic supply hubs and better road infastructure than the Russians. This is why the Siversk front was also very difficult for the Russians for a time as was Kupyansk. Similarly, the sucesses of Russia in Kharkov and around Dobropillya can also see this trend in action with the Russians having more roads and bigger settlments close by.
>>546064818It works in PT-BR, we use "eat" when we mean to "fuck".
Today's losses for Russia.1x oil export port. UST luga. 1x oil refinery. Omsk.1x MIG-31 jet.1x KA-52 attack helicopter.1x MI-8 multi use helicopter. 1x Buyan-M kaliber missile ship. 7x pilots and crew. Plus a secondary port was struck and railway infrastructure. Not even counting battlefield losses. Russia is not a serious country.
>>546066123>all the way to odessaAHEM, all the way to Pridnestrovie.ftfy
>NEW - Germany prepares coal plants for emergency operations amid strained gas supplies and low storage levels.Chalk up another W for Merz.
>>546065746>Wasting possibility of enjoying things of real world while alive only because doritos flew over my houseJust start onlyfans and sell porn, you will get paid for it and you will be happy, plus will be able to afford an apartment somewhere more save (western Ukranda or other country). Ukraine is even officially recognized it as a normal job too, unlike here where you will sent to jail
damn Poutine is so mean., attacks the poor ukraine right after piss talks. didn't hohols also fly drones in Russia during the talks?
>>546066874Why is she holding borshch instead of trad Brazilian soup of macaque
>>546066162you shall live to fag another day
>Nvidia’s board is reportedly preparing to REMOVE CEO Jensen Huang after it was revealed he had ANOTHER affair, this time with a senior executive who reports DIRECTLY to him.>This comes just DAYS after Huang admitted to an affair with a woman U.S. officials suspect is a CHINESE SPY.>According to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, the board could meet as soon as today to decide his future.>Nvidia stock is already TANKING after hours.The chinese one was better.
>>546066227imagine solving internet connection issues on an ice breaker
>>546066490Tell him to come back.
>>546066977They even send it during Witrkoff and Kushner's visit in MoscowThats why Americans dont care, because they already understand that Ukraine is non-negotiable>>546067094>trust women>gets your life destroyed
>>546066658you want a AK you better call up dealers in Yugoslavia willing to ship to a dealer in your country cause AKs dont get stocked in EU
>>546066982Because she lives in Florianópolis, where there is a large Russian expat community.
>>546067094He should have been removed first time when he started showing himself in his stupid jackets, if you ask me.
>Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the law on my watch! I'm confiscating your stolen goods, now pay your fine or it's off to jail.
These entities:>Vladimir Zelensky (Jewish)>Mette Frederiksen (prime minister of Denmark, got into power with help from the pedophilia-convicted Henrik Sass Larsen)>Lars Løkke Rasmussen (foreign minister of Denmark)>Rasmus Tantholdt (Danish journalist, openly Jewish wife, frothed with glee at the mouth over civilians he had interviewed being persecuted and hunted)are all more than thrilled and happy about Ukrainians, Russians and others dying in horrifyingly large numbers. They actively and knowingly help orchestrate the mass death and genocide of Ukrainians and Russians. And they are more than happy about risking WW3 and nuclear war.It would not be the slightest bit surprising if they and their extended families are assassinated, especially if WW3 and nuclear war breaks out, whether by the hands of Ukrainians or by others.Will any of you assassinate them? 4chan is controlled and owned by Jews, and you, the reader, assuming this reaches people, is almost certainly observed, monitored and data mined in every which way. You would have to play pretend to the extreme, even in every day life, to even have a chance. Would giving everything up to potentially assassinate some Jewish pedophiles be worth it?Here is an interview involving 3 of them, though pressing that link will probably only data mine you even morehttps://play.tv2.dk/serie/interviews-none/tantholdt-og-zelenskyj-om-sikkerhedssituationen-4705700a-5ec4-4497-8d52-1376eb5c1dd2
Follow your leaders, zogged pidorite.
>>546066982We do not eat monkey soup, nor do we ride monkeys to school.
>>546067191There are no Albanians in your country?
>reading /ptg/>the majority of non-bsky shill posts are obvious neocon shill posts talking about how the war is actually great and we need to keep it up to stop iran from getting nukesGetting tired of all the shilling on this board.
>Zelensky: Maybe when someone in America wanted Greenland, he didn't even realize that what he really wanted was not the land, but to become a little more Danish...
>attached the graph insteadHabit.
Jesus fucking Christ.
>>546067266you DON'T EAT monkey soup? I'm shocked!
>>546066465It's cringe Korea
>>546067191>AKs dont get stocked in EUi remember seeing one at a police station next to a ppsh-41folding stock and with all black furniture it looked very clean
>>546067368Stop this bullshit. It’s irritating.
Nic "the spic" Fuentes said he's in favor of ukraine and he's "farid Russia might invade Kaliningrad", not kidding.https://x.com/Kaizerrev/status/2120414474922283073I'm guessing he got the same mind changing check Laura "larry" Loomer got right before she became a diehard hohol supporter.
>>546067279all of them snitches and honeypots
>>546067395likely domestic leftover from DDR tho why cops kept rifles is beyond me
>>546067316Could explain me if USSR/Titoist partisans supposedly "won" WW2 , instead of the kikes & anglos in London/Washington, why isn't the whole world speak Russian/Yugoslav languages, but English, instead? Also, how come USSR didn't receive big chunks of lands after WW2, but only a small ass Kaliningrad oblast, don't you think our people just were cannon fodder for the foreigner elites?
>>546067400>Stop this bullshit.No. Also checked.
>>546067415so trump fuentes and loomer are all on the same side now?
>>546067249apparently he is at the talk but not in the room so my best guess is that he is point at exactly nothing and looking like a retard
>>546067249Where was this energy when the United States invaded and occupied Iraq?
>Brazil has signed a military agreement with Benin. The federal government’s goal is to strengthen Brazil’s presence in West African security, focusing on expanding the national defense industry through exports to African countries, as well as laying the groundwork for joint military exercises and even security missions in Africa.While it's kinda cool that Brazil is kinda expanding it's military footprint, I have a really hard time understanding how this benefits us in any way.
>>546067598You write like her sometimes.
>>546067584>why cops kept rifles is beyond meit was a show piece as it was in a shelf that was covered in glass so everyone could look insidethere were pistols, brass knuckles and knives in there too for example and some bullets and i think a second drum for the ppsh-41
>>546067310Romantic pseudohistory really is something else.
Considering we defeated an enemy that openly sought to genocide us, we won.
>>546068035ancient hruks created the first civilization in europe
>>546067605They always were
>>546067711Youre linking up with Russia. Russia and China have a road/port fromSudan all the way to Burkina Faso. Benin gives a second port nation.
>>546068102>we won.USSR didn't receive any land gains, so no, but Washington & London controling all the world Just admit our people were cannon fodder
what are gujaratis dying for
>>546068114so what does the "Rus" in Kievean Rus signify?
>>546067711And I have a really hard time understanding why Brazil despite being the largest and most populous country in South America has basically no influence outside it`s own borders barring BRICS,this agreement is quite good>>546067589>why isn't the whole world speak Russian/Yugoslav languages, but English, instead?Half of it did speak Russian as it`s second language though,my parents know Russian.If only "your" people weren`t hellbent on becoming Westoid in the 90`s
>>546065867i will save that and present as evidence in the inevitable rape trials
>>546068872Because brown people and foids elect leftists who eat up all the available budget with entitlements.
>>546068769cow shit
>>546068114>We wuz Russianz n' shiet
>>546065654>furfat looks like that?!?
>>546069044or wow forever
>>546069116join the russian army and liberate (rape) her
>>546068114>we wuz da real ruzziansKrajina literally means borderland in most cases tho
>>546068872>.If only "your" people weren`t hellbent on becoming Westoid in the 90`sHas nothing to do with the 90sThe fact stays the same USSR didn't receive any land gains after WW2I'd support USSR unironically if Poland won't exist on the map after WW2
>>546069320>I'd support USSR unironically if Poland won't exist on the map after WW2At least Czarist Russia actually aimed for imperialistic goals in WW1, even though we also were just the play toys of anglo-kikes in it along Germans
>>546069320>The fact stays the same USSR didn't receive any land gains after WW2They took Moldova,Parts of Finnish Karelia,Baltoid states and half of Poland (then),they also had military bases throughout Eastern Europe whereas today Russia only has bases in irrelevant shitholes >Has nothing to do with the 90sNobody bothers to actually learn Russian post 90`s unless they are actually seeking to immigrate,for example Mongolia in 2024 replaced Russian with English as its main foreign language and they are on the path to fully removing Cyrillic because le hecking evil putler and stalin,Russian state didn`t do anything about this
>>546069822>Moldova,Parts of Finnish Karelia,BaltoidThey have always been a part of Russia lol before WW2>Poland (then)It wasn't occupied I'd be okay with the whole WW2 on bolshevik side if Poles & Romanias were to be genocided & occupied entirely So no, we didn't receive shit after WW2
>>546066296chug is a furry bread
What did I miss?
>>546070260Why wasn't fucking poland & romania occupied by USSR -- they'd be the biggest gains for USSR
>>546065813>why is CNN dismantling hohol propaganda points on american tv?Because Ukraine already spent its budget for the year by August.
>>546067094I don't understand, this motherfucker has infinite money, he could have a private harem full of 20 years old hot bitches from each continent if he wanted, but instead has to cheat to his wife with a foid and a Chinese spy, shit likes this just proves me once again that making lots of money doesn't mean you're intelligent, just lucky to have made the right choice at the right time.
Lol nafotards are thinking that Eurotrans was a big chain of gas stations and that with it closing the entire supply of gas in moscow is over
>>546066296No, this nigger stole my phrasing and is trying to convince me to watch the chainsawslop movie
>>546070368Because they fucking were until Soviets installed puppet states,in Romania alone Half a million soldiers were present
>>546070368>Why wasn't fucking poland & romania occupied by USSR -- they'd be the biggest gains for USSRJEEWSSR was a cryptocolony that's why they created warsaw pact, instead of actually occupying these shitholes, and fucking made up republics inside Russia such as jewkraine & zmagaria
>>546070611>Soviets installed puppet statesPuppet state is shit, they should've been occupied entirely, if USSR wasn't a colony of anglo kikes
>>546066123Is being smug a requirement to be a negociator/diplomat?
>Iraqi counterterrorism forces are raiding parts of Jurf al-Sakhar district, south of Baghdad, Iraq, a widely known Kataib Hezbollah stronghold.>The operation comes after a direct order from Iraqi PM Ali al-Zaidi, as tensions between the Prime Minister and Iraqi militias continue to escalate.
>>546070340
Long story short Russia should have ultra-imperialistic government never uniting with angloid government
>>546070499>the entire supply of gas in moscow is overThe ongoing destruction of your refineries will see to that.
>>546067320>not one step back>also, please return our meatGrim
>>546068317>>546068872Brazil has a pretty sizable Military Industrial Complex, we make artillery, rifles, grenades, those weird tanks with wheels instead of threads, missiles, planes and a lot more, we even tested a kamikaze boat drone recently.And we usually sell to other south american nations, with planes being sold all over the world, specially trainign craft and military transports, so openning a nother market is good.But I do like the idea of brazilian troops linking up with the Russia African Corps, give our guys some real training in modern combat.
what colour is YOUR lamp?
>>546069822>stalinVlasov was the actual imperialistic maniac unlike churka faggot subhuman gayorgian subanimal stalin
Stalin apriori couldn't be an imperialist as some schizoids portray him on both anti stalin & pro stalin campsHe was just a bandit faggot churka yёбищe
>Well, it’s been quite a "lively" night for the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS)>According to updated information, not one, but three aircraft have been lost: two Ka-52s and one Mi-8. Some suggest that a Russian MiG-31 might have been involved, but this is merely speculation; there is no definitive information yet.what are we up to, 16 planes in 31 days? 4 years btw
>visited the finnish /int/ threadActual worst general on this hellsite wtf
>>546071647Most of 4chan sucks tbdesu I basically never leave chug
>we
>>546071647generals on /int/ are orders of magnitude worse than /pol/'s overall. Is just losers, sucicidal, simps, niggers or exteme coomers. /pol/ generals tend to be better because outer /pol/ is that compromised
>>546067320why do you keep posting diarrhea from some 80 IQ zoomer?