>WWII ends>1945 to ~1990>Country basically becomes a Great Power>Something of a Golden Age>Manufacture cheap stuff>Manufacture high quality luxury goods>Automobiles and creating jerbs for Europeans>Making kinos and contributing to pan-European HuWestern culture>Spagetti westerns>Cultural power>Economic power>One of the most relevant countries in Europe>Even Serie A is the best league in footballHow did it all collapse so quickly and how did they become the I in PIGS?
>>546076359they still win football tournaments from time to timeand theyre still among the top ten economies in the worldthey still have Ferrari and Ferrerotheyre just more quiet and shill
>>546076359They are being invaded by bantus thanks to muttmericans right now
>>546076359>File: IMG_6627.jpga brown shill made this thread
>>546076359I lived there for 4 and a half years, they still think they're a super power. I hate Italians more than you can ever imagine. I had a thermopen mk4 or some fancy shit instant read cooking thermometer I brought to a BBQ and I was grilling and using it to check the chicken temp, and one Italian man was watching me mystified, he watched the whole time and kept asking questions about it. For Christmas the next year he bought me a dollar store thermometer, a real Chinese piece of shit with no battery etc, you gotta stick it in and wait half an hour to get a read on it. He would laugh at me every single time I would see him and tell his friends in Italian how I spent $100 on a thermometer and he got me one for 1 euro and how silly I was to have spent so much money when he could have showed me where to get the cheap one. He had zero self awareness that I too was aware that shitty cheap meat thermometer are available, he acted like he was my hero for showing me how to save money. Like he didn't drop it for 3 years every time he saw me he'd laugh and pretend to poke meat on a grill. Fucking idiot. I came to the conclusion that the people who built Rome are long gone and the people who sacked Rome, broke all the plumbing, lived in their own shit and called themselves romans now inhabit that dark place.
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>>546076854That's a very typical shitalian behavior
>>546076854noone cares, Rasheeditalians are great peopleand certainly greater than fucking indians
>>546076972Wrong red dot, Achmed, or whatever you Turks go by.
>>546076854bro, how autistic are you?
>>546077146only indians know how the flag of india looks like, Rasheed
>>546077324If you've ever had salmonella, you'd be a little neurotic with food safety as well.
>>546078396im sure, thats common in India
>>546078437It's common in shitaly too
>>546078781doubt
After WWII, which we lost, we have been taking over by USA military and speculative banks that were pumping in huge amount of money in order to rebuild the country which was in ruins.In matter of fact we are an american colony, and our politicians are all american controlled puppets.Well at least we are still the best at food, creative things, cars and art tho
>>546076854Man, let me say as an Italian yes many countrymen of mine can sound like retarded monkeys, I had similar frustrating experiences. And there would be a lot more to say, the country would be great after we do some ethnic cleansing and while we are at it we might remove the retarded ones too.Also out of curiosity where have you been? Because north and south makes a lot of difference, also Milan is south ad honorem
>they still think they're a super powerthis is complete bullshit btw. i'm italian and i never got thihs impression from anyone. i don't think we see ourselves as a superpower nor do we wish to be one
>>546079732>>546076854>>546079677i wouldn't even call italians retards. i think italy is living on a different planet than the rest of the world desu. when i'm back in italy the rest of the world feels kind of far away
>>546079607Odd that you;'re an American colony, what with that Chinese (Belt and) rail road up north there.
>>546079677I lived in Napoli. Visited Sicilia, Milano, Bari, Genoa, Torino, all over really, Firenze. The north was totally different from the south, unfortunate I lived in the armpit of Italy, trashy Napoli, the beautiful woman with dirty feet. Only problem with the north was it was full of niggers, not so many in Napoli though.
>>546079607true. all conscious italians see themselves as an american colony
>>546080069it's genova, not genoabest city in italy is trieste btw
>>546080076Only the smart ones and who can see through the lies.
>>546080217speaking with the youth in italy is kind of concerning. a lot seem genuinely dumb as bricks. not even malicious. but dumb like they can't spell their name backwards
>>546080069>nfortunate I lived in the armpit of Italy, trashy Napoli,That explains a lot.>Only problem with the north was it was full of niggers, not so many in Napoli though.Because Neapolitans openly and proudly despise niggers, and tend to keep them in ghetto blocks, just like the banlieue in France
>>546076854dude, you were checking the chicken temp with a thermometer. Nobody does that. Much less for some fucking chicken. Its incredibly autistic.But what you described is typical behavior in all Latin descendant countries, specially among the low classes.
>>546080069noone cares Rasheedstop shitting up the thread
>>546079732these threads are usually astroturfed by shitskins or russiansdont beleive anything that gets written heremost of this board are bots
>>546080286>>546080286Yeah, It's because intense use of internet and smartphones, bad parenting and poverty.But in general is a common thing in the falling West.
What major monetary event happened in Europe after 1990?
>>546080286https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11LhPfUfDQthe world is changing fast, this is Italy now. American colony, you named it
>>546080488>povertyi was thinking of moving back to italy to escape this niggerhell and then i searched up the salaries and the taxes and it's fucking brutal. im going to stick to doing my extended visits instead...
My aunt's side of the family used to be hugely wealthy industrialists in Liguria. Think they went bankrupt in the 70's. I stay at their villa in Sardinia from time to time and their neighbour is a Mafia guy who told me to go away when I was looking for lizards :(
>>546076359In 1992 Soros destroyed lira with speculation, look it up.Then Berlusconi came with his bands of corrupted mafia and fascists.Now it is just nepotism and fat americans blocking the roads of all cities with their lardy ass walking to take selfie and gelato, conteibuting to gentrification.If Kim Jong Un nuked Italy tomorrow it would be too late.>>546076854Lol so you were in Naples or any place where people can cook with your retarded expensive nerd gadget for cooking, in a place where people has a centiry old cooling culture, and you expect not to be bullied? Lol get a life nerd and stick that infrared pen in your ass.The only thing good left in Italy ia bullying. The few people that can do stuff bully the people who try to hard. This is the only thing that keep the quality high in some sectors. This is why we are the biggeat brain drain country in europe, we export reseaechers and chefs, stuff you learn because there is a culture of bullying you up until you learn.Brain drain is also because nepotism and corruption prevent people to flourish in Italy, but still italian researchers have great position abroad because of the bullying university and school education
>>546076359Laziest fucks in Europa part greeks
>>546080531what the fuck is this nigger shit? when im in italy im almost always in deep rural northern italy. so that shapes the perception of the country
>>546079607>shitalian food>beat at foodTopkek
>>546080605Don't come here for living, come only for vacations. Salaries are all time low and keep getting lower, while EVERYTHING costs more and more.We are struggling even to afford groceries, it's not a joke, we are in the brink of a catastrophe.
>>546080735>Finland making fun of our foodLMAOOOO
>>546080780funny thing is with my american money italy feels so cheap. but if i were to live in italy i wouldnt work bc it literally wouldnt be worth it. so if i ever do live in italy it'd be when i decide to not do work
>>546080849dude, none of the people here realfinnish flags are famous for foreign bots
>>546080780>We are struggling even to afford groceries, it's not a joke, we are in the brink of a catastrophe.if you came to the US northeast you'd be shocked. i recently went to a local italian food place (i never eat out) and one plate of pastasciutta was like 20 dollars
>>546080648sardegna is really struggling but seems interesting.
>>546080924Same thing in Rome, a carbonara used to be 8-11 euros now 16. Tourists are to blame, city where destroyed by big corporations andnthe greed of landlords. The damage done by airbnb and ryanair to italian urbanism is huge
>>546081100no way carbonara is 16. a margherita is still like 6 euros max even in northern italy. i dont eat pasta outside in italy, but i cant imagine an osteria charging 16 euro for pasta
>>546081100truetourism is a disease
>>546076854Calm down anon. Also what part of Italy? There are bad eggs everywhere, you think a fucking thermostat is a big deal? A cyprian piece of shit falsely accused me of sexual assault in front of a group men while out, I didn't do shit and that's asking to get your head caved in here in straya mate. Than I call that piece of cyrpian shit out and he can't even respond. Fucking KEK! Be grateful. We can be friends anon. But I can't label all cyprians shit, ya know? I get it bro.
>>546080924I would like to visit USA, in particular the midwest which seems cozy, and the make a road trip but I'm too broke and scared of americans, don't take it as an offense, but they seems psychotic and ready to snap at any time for no reasons at all.
>>546081191holy shit, can you people stop replying to that shitskin?
>>546081204>they seems psychotic and ready to snap at any time for no reasons at all.uh you'd probably be fine. i dont think you'd have an issue. most americans are kind in fact contrary to media portrayal. where in the midwest would you want to go?
>>546081149Every osteria now has a quirky chef that became a tiktok/youtube star, has a 4.8 tripadvisor score and you cannot even get close. I am talking about Rome where the carbonara is from. If you go to Sicily or Calabria you can still find cheqp and tasty groceries, and some taverna/osteria with decent prices. But tourist cities (which now is basically every city) dont care about it.The same problems are with transportation. In the early 2000s traim were affordable, you could get from Milan to Sicily (18hours ride) eith half the price of a plane. Now Trenitalia raised the prices because of fat tourists so Rome to Naples (1.30hours ride) can be even 60 euros. Corporate culture and grees.Also Meloni govvernment has been an utter disgrace. Economy is in shambles. Worst government ever, all economic indicators are plummetinf, and she had fhe EU post covid fund, still she wasnt able to use them. All the political nepotism in administration led to hire people who are not able to write a project correctly. This country is doomed, hope the maranza burn it down and turn it into an emirate. Sicilian emirate in the middle age was the apex of culture in Italy before renaissance, hope we can do it again. In any case it cannot be worse than the present shit
>>546081332Road trip from there to the great plains but it's impossible with my italian salary. And I have a great job here in Italy mind you.
>>546081339Lel all true, I can confirm. It's that bad.
>>546081339>Every osteria now has a quirky chef that became a tiktok/youtube starwell where im from is pretty rural northern italy. we have rich ppl coming for agriturismo but that's about it. so my perception of the country is biased by that.>she had fhe EU post covid fundpeople back in italy tell me this was the only thing holding up meloni. they saw newly paved roads from the eu funds and got some hopium.i don't even have words to describe i maranza. maybe the best word is "embarassing". che vergogna....
>>546081494>great job here in Italylet me guess like 45k euro pre tax?
>>546076359dago dago dago dago dago dago dago
>>546081576Yep, and after tax is like 25k. Which is nothing, those bastards in Europe and government are making us poorer by days
>>546081494>from there to the great plainsthese are massive places kek. you'd need to have a lot more specific ideas
>>546081556Pretty rural northern Italy is basically Austria. Is the closest to a functioning country you can get in Italy. But all the rest is shit. Rome does not even have a cultuyte anymore, all the painters, artists, muisicians were evicted from the city centre to make airbnbs. Same for Venice and Florence.
>>546076854Chad italian luddite vs virgin autistic tech bro
>>546081747yeah my province is always ranked in like the top 10 in italy. and the areas i visit family in are in top 5 often. so i recognize my view of italy is drastically biased
>>546081339Sounds like niggertina lmao
>>546081710Kek maybe Kansas, the lakes and find the cozy towns I used to watch in americans movies as a kid.
>>546081865there are no cozy american townsyou watched hollywood not reality
>>546076359USA happened
>>546079607well it’s not like you stupid faggots didn’t kill mussolini, you fucking retarded bastards with your cat burning mafia niggers. Italians are such niggers with their pretentious “culture”.
>>546081876you've clearly never been to berne, indiana. but whatever..
>>546080660>we are proud of being dumb boomers or something
>>546082019as fake as chinese tourist copies of Paris there is no such thign as "couy american culture" similar to Italyyoure an economic zone and you all live in suburbs
>>546082082the people here are more swiss than in switzerland
>>546076854>Fucking idiot. I came to the conclusion that the people who built Rome are long gone and the people who sacked Rome, broke all the plumbing, lived in their own shit and called themselves romans now inhabit that dark place.Well, yes. It's called medieval europe.
>>546082159>shows blurry picture where you dont even see anythignhahahahameanhwile in actual Switzerland
>>546081992Mussolini was just a pawn, a tool used by a much greater force.Why the king of Italy Vittorio Emanuele the Third, in 1922 didn't do anything to stop him? Were the king obeying orders from above? Start asking questions.
>>546082247im talking abt the people. no shit they couldnt rebuild the swiss alps dumbass
>>546082306they havent rebuild shit eitheryour shtihole is a joke
>>546076359>How did it all collapse so quickly and how did they become the I in PIGS?They adopted the euro shitcoin €
>>546076359We missed out building computers and we stopped breeding generations with any resemblance of pride after the fell of the Soviet Union (arguably this happened after the Second World War, but in the post war decades the country was still run by people who grew up before 1945). We were an Italian sounding Vietnamese sweat shop run by boomers back in 1990 and we still are. Peoples with no pride, no up to date technology and no offspring always go extinct eventually. The same goes for Germany.>>546082263It didn't go like that
>>546082743>Italy adopted the Euro in 2010wow, youre so smart anon
>>546080683guess you'll see when you visit the big city kek
Wrong chiiches during prosperity
>>546076359our economy relied on printing money and selling goods at a cheap price so we got fucked hard when we entered the EU.
>>546083228>our economy relied on printing moneywhy are meds like this
>>546082804Shut up Hans. Euro was created so that you can dominate in the EU. Fuck Frankfurt
>>546083704retared horseshitthe Euro was invented by Franceand the only thign it doe is keep us down and chained to this continent of retarded hillbillies
>>546083742You wanted the entire continent, now you have it. Enjoy.
>>546083774not much longerFrance is broke and Germany is sick of payingEnjoy
>>546083831You can't strive without cheap Russian resources. Neither can we.France is dying from communism, again. And yet people say Europe is the best place to live
>>546076854Japanese antisocial behavior meets Italian antisocial behavior
>>546084155why would you even assume that guy is a japaneseis this your first day on this board?
>>546076359Jews>>546076854I hate them too, subhumans, hopefully they get all killed by nukes
>>546084233are these posters botshow do they all respond to that shtiskin like utter retards?
