Anons is Baofeng DM-32UV the official /pol/ endorsed radio for situations when shit hits the fan?It is an affordable dual band analogue and digital radio with AES-256 bit encryption.
It's Chinese junk that will be used to track your position
>>546099320If you aren't training and understanding radio (get your amateur radio license for example) then I promise you these will be worse than useless to you when you need to use them in a stressful situation.
>>546099320>push button to transmit anything at all, even for a second by accident>located instantlyuseless
>>546099320> BaofengCan I receive my orders directly from Beijing with that?
Consider a sat phone if you can afford it.
>>546099442I will have local open source AI in my bunker. The next gen local AI are gonna be off the chain. Combine with the AI boxes they got coming out. I'll have absolutely no need for your smelly Albertan ass to come wandering into my lair to show me how it works. You're old news grandpa. The 40 year old zoom zoom millennials are here. Pay attention.
>>546099421what about Israeli electronics embbebed in american tech? yeah, not spying you at all
>>546099442If you get training to understand a radio, and a license to use such, guarantee the government will come looking for you in a crisis because you are smart enough to use it and chances are, they snatch you as radio operator for military operations. The fact you need a license to do it, put me off entirely learning it, it was cool to look around the museum though, very chill and interesting tech too bad it will be used against you if you know how it works.
>>546099320>AES-256 bit encryption.Massive security flaws in this, they are not secure
>>546099320Why would I need this exactly?
>>546099628you won't have electricity dumbass. and even if you do, it won't be enough to power that rig.
>>546099758Its not 1920, nobody is grabbing ham radio operators
>>546099876no actually, it's not too much power to run a few relays over a wide area but the problem is, if you know how it works, you're snatched because you're smart enough to know how it works.perhaps that's a survival strategy, learn how to radio, get stolen by government and eat all the government rations transmitting random bullshit
>>546099867So that you can communicate when government shuts down the internet and phones or natural disaster or EMP destroys the infeastructure.
>>546099320This is an ad people.Anything over 5w handheld is retarded.Who exactly will your isolate ass be needing to communicate with anyway after the fall? You going to be setting up trade routes?
>>546099758I am an RF engineer / VLF antenna designer so I am kind of fucked in this regard anyway my friend. My ability to transmit morse code around the world with 100W is pretty secondary to that. My only solace is that I suppose it is better to be conscripted for that than it is to be conscripted to catch Temu drones with water bottles of gasolene taped to them.
>>546099421No. Flash opengd77, problem solved
>>546100008what if the radios stop producing ham... I'd hate to be enslaved by the government to fix ham producing radios all day
>>546099320>>Baofeng DM-32UV>No HF>Embedded GPS chipMissing out on numbers stations and UVB-76
>>546099628>I will have local open source AI in my bunker. The next gen local AI are gonna be off the chain. Combine with the AI boxes they got coming out. I'll have absolutely no need for your smelly Albertan ass to come wandering into my lair to show me how it works. You're old news grandpa. The 40 year old zoom zoom millennials are here. Pay attention.>GROK HOW DO I MAKE ANTENNA?>GROK WHAT IS IMPEDANCE MATCHING>GROK WHAT IS IMPEDANCE?You have no idea, none whatsoever, how complicated the world of radio is. Your best bet is buying an appliance and practising to use it.Also >Albertayuck.
HAM faggots will always be fun to fuck with. Radio sperg retards.
>>546099320A trusdx is a good pair with any baofeng.I like my radtel rx470 though. Its a basic, robuts and reliable radio with a better reciever. Baofengs tend to go def when theres too many signals or too strong a signal. Thats a problem for people who actually use radios.But for adhoc comms any ole feng or adjacent will do.
>>546099421You dont know a thing about radio.Your retarted.
>>546099320>here is a few GPS/Radio wave trackers you can carry to be found anywhere while on the run
>>546099687Actual Military Comms devices are not obtainable by civilians. So if you want SECURE* then you need to dev your own shit.I own 2 Bao's and they are 100% compromised.Their solid state nature almost guarantees that it is sub firmware. So no flashing will wipe the backdoor.
>>546100266https://github.com/dondch/OpenGD77-AES256
>>546101040If you’re operating in the United States, you need to get a FCC license in order to use any type of radio encryption. However, the project that I’ve listed here support several models of radios extremely well and enables AES 256 bit encryption for civilians. Just make sure you follow the law if you’re in the US and get your FCC license. Easier to get it under a business.
>>546099320>BaofengPoor choice
>needing a radio in the SHTFNGMI
>>546099758>The fact you need a license to do it,You're a fucking retard.There's quite a bit that can be done without a license.Receiving doesn't require a license. There's a shit fuckton of kits out there that help one learn peripherally related electronic comms.You must be a fucking dalit.
>>546101097no license needed...
>>546100177>Who exactly will your isolate ass be needing to communicate with anyway after the fall?Another fucking jeet. God, you people are retardedly short sighted. Best part of the collapse will be wiping you dalits out.
>>546101097Once you’re legally established, you can do all kinds of cool things like create secure encrypted IP-based tunnels over the Internet that broadcast radio comms similar to the way a layer 2 switch handles IPv4 based traffic. It doesn’t care about the encryption, it just forwards it to X destination. This allows you to create all kinds of really cool encrypted radio communications over cheap as you go data SIM cards. For example, you can have one at your house on 50 acres, and then another one in a completely different state hooked up to the Internet on 50 acres, and someone at one location can broadcast radio to the other and vice versa, real-time encrypted comms. Of course, you have to have a business and FCC license to do these types of things legally. You can’t talk on a unencrypted public channel and use similar technology, but obviously it would be not secure for business operations.
>>546099758it's better to be useful than to be a worthless eater
>>546099320>Laughs in astral projection
>>546099320Lol no good ol CB rules
>>546101313These IPSEC radio broadcaster to IPV4 encapsulation router tunnel devices can be built on top of raspberry pi compute devices. Going with a model like a raspberry pie model 3/4 B, with a pisugar UPS gives you hardware-based availability management for the operating system. Which means that if it becomes unresponsive, it will automatically reboot the system. Pretty cool stuff!
>>546101156Bro, idgaf what you think I am. If you know how to operate these machines good for you, and as for listening to the radio, for that reason it's perhaps worth it as a hobby but it's still far cheaper to just buy a radio and listen in that way, so go on and keep voting between red and blue, cheering your independence and paying high taxes to defend israel like a good goy soldier.
>>546100877Arent soldier with radios targeted by drones all the time in Ukraine? You have to go silent in the battlefield.
>>546100968You could just run your own encrypted analog audio if you think the transmitter themselves are compromised.
>>546099421suggest something better then lol? there isn't, optical, wired all need los or preinstalled infra, radio is the best you can get
>>546101542See firmware >>546101040 which supports analog and digital encrypted comms.
>>546101313>You can’t talk on a unencrypted public channel and use similar technology, but obviously it would be not secure for business operations.You can talk
>>546099687Build your own fucking transmitters using through hole components. Its not hard if you have an IQ over 100.Goddamnit /pol/ is a fucking joke now.
>>546101040>>546101097>>546101313good stuff anon
Amateur radio is a pretty cool hobby. Just make sure you’re following the local laws correctly, know what you’re doing. Research broadcast channels and frequencies. Know your local and federal laws so you don’t get in trouble or disrupt core emergency communications.
>>546100072Maybe in cucked bongland full of browns.
>>546101608>https://github.com/dondch/OpenGD77-AES256I think he meant there might be some backdoor on the silicon itself that no firmware can fix, similar to the gsm modem on cellphones having access to all the ram of the system cpu.
>>546101782Last one to add on. If you’re interested in creating the broadcasting tunnel to tunnel backbone Internet radio comms that I mentioned, here’s the following operating system that supports that. You can use any modern AI model to help you design these things and build them easily. https://manual.wpsd.radio/install_software/This is open source software that runs on the Raspberry Pi to create the tunnel. Obviously, you need multiple devices. It basically works like one is a master node and they set up tunnels with each other, so all you need is the master node to be behind a controllable DNS record and able to open ports. It all operates under UDP ports. It runs a lightweight version of Debian.
>>546101912You’re flashing custom firmware that’s completely open source and audible. The firmware is supported on numerous devices. You can create your own encryption keys, the software and the device can be completely isolated and monitored for communications, which to my knowledge using mainstream well-known hardware for these projects hasn’t been a problem. If you have some type of reference or source saying it is a problem, please by all means point it out and give everyone in the thread a URL to this information. That would be considered a zero day exploit, so I’m sure everyone would appreciate you enlightening the community.
>>546102156>auditable
>>546101772This. You have to be a fucking moron to not be able to have custom transmitter firmware running on a modified MIPS architecture written in Verilog and flashed onto an FPGA that talks to drivers that use PIC microcontrollers. You can easily make your own custom satphone this way.
>>546101327This.
>>546102228I’ve pretty much outlined one version of that. It’s not what I would consider a satellite phone, but it’s a mesh encrypted radio network that uses the Internet as a backbone between location node points.
>>546099758Any idiot with an AI model can get an FCC license to operate encrypted comms for a business. You just have to apply correctly using the right strategy for an itinerary license.
>>546102325>but it’s a mesh encrypted radio network that uses the Internet as a backbone between location node points.I'd rather establish a network of meshed field deployable transceivers
>>546100096who would i communicate with?
>>546102475These are field deployable. I have one on my truck. You just need to have some type of mobile Internet connection.
>>546102475I have it set up so the node shut down automatically when it’s not connected to the cellular network since the node is running on a UPS with kernel panic / out of memory, lock up monitoring. Works well. When the truck fires up, the device starts instantaneously and comes online within 30 seconds or less. When I turn the truck off, it kills the little android head unit running in my vehicle, and consequently the hotspot it’s providing over its own dedicated SIM card, my network systemd service seized that the network isn’t connected and shuts down the node.
>>546102540>>546102725What do you think about high end military radios?
>>546102725>seizedThe systemD service SEEs the device isn’t connected to the hotspot and then shuts itself down. Using voice to text dictation because I’m walking around doing a few things, so auto correct gets out of hand.
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>>546102772Sorry, I’m just not going to talk about that!
>>546102868>>546102819What in the schizo is going on here?
>>546102772I would say that some of these open source community driven systems are extremely robust and durable. and would be considered in some aspects, enterprise approaching military grade if designed correctly. It’s refreshing to see communities and products like this. So mostly what I’ve overviewed here is encrypted voice capabilities (primarily), however there’s also inexpensive LoRa radios as a long range off-grid communication platform in areas without existing or reliable communications infrastructure. Pretty neat:https://meshtastic.org/docs/overview/
>>546102864i will buy one tomorrow then
>he doesn't configure his transmitter/receiver to use a stream cipher to select freq. at specific intervals for jam resistance/jamming
>>546102913Sorry a bit of decoding required on your end. If you can overlay gradients on top of number systems mentally, then you’ll do just fine. I hear some people have trouble with that :)
>>546103328Yeah no spread spectrum hopping hundreds of times a second for anti-jamming capabilities, because it’s illegal.
>>546103328At best:>Motorola DTR series handhelds or LoRa/Meshtastic nodes—legally use Frequency-Hopping Spread Spectrum (FHSS) or Chirp Spread Spectrum (CSS) to avoid interference.>Commercial DMR Pseudo-Trunking. While not true anti-jamming, some DMR radios support basic dual-slot scanning or pseudo-trunking, which lets a radio automatically pick whichever of the two DMR timeslots is currently free.
>>546099320i need a hobbyist radio operator certification and permits to use thati use lora tho there is a hobbyist network that spans most of israel for that
>>546103328>sorry the chinks set the AES256 IV as a fixed string
>>546103723That’s not specific to Israel, these networks are global. The URL below allows you to see the public listing of the nodes globally on a map. Additionally, it shows you the interconnected patterns of how the nodes communicate using LoRahttps://meshtastic.liamcottle.net/
>>546102228Shit a crystal radio and CW using code words is beyond 99.9% of the militarys capabilities now. NVIS propogation cannot be tracked because surprise, it comes from the sky.Digital modes are sick as fuck too but i just enjoy building analogue stuff and see how far i can reach using a 2n2222 and 300mw output. So far my longest contact is australia from the midwest
>>546103830yeah i meant that the israeli community set up router nodes such that almost all of israel is coveredin larger countries it's not really possible because of the hop limit tho they can still cover huge areasand in dense metropolises in larger countries the node db limit becomes a problem on a city level
Ham radio is a great hobby. I have spoken with people around the world using my HF radio with a 70ft end-fed antenna suspended up in the trees on my property, using morse code (CW) and lots of cool digital modes (mostly OLIVIA, I am a huge OLIVIA stan). There are also a bunch of us on the eastern coast who have a HF linked 300 baud BBS system set up that is super cool; you can leave messages, forward them via other nodes, lots of neat stuff.
You guys are such retards. Why do you need a radio in an emergency situation?Are you planning to sit in a bedroom you rented from a 3rd gen Laotian used car dealer and verbally shitpost with other losers when shit hits the fan? What actually is the big plan?Huge tip but try improving your cardio, finding employment (ideally with the government or adjacent private businesses) and maintaining friendships and connections with sensible and trustworthy people. Owning a discount Chinese walky talky isn't going to get you into the right group chats rofl.
>>546099320Muh baofeng go brrrtBut yes ideally you should be running digital with AES256 encryption. Cheap UV-5R to give to normie friends and family
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>>546105551yeah but for long ranges you depend on others too
>>546099320Right... but, I have the coolest ani code... it's 888...
>>546105640>has issue with high density nodes in a city… move the topic to now, long rangeIts not about indiscriminately purging to keep it under 100 nodes. It’s about dynamically adjusting behavior to avoid issues while in certain circumstances based on solid Linux and db administration. If you’re having other companion applications lagging due to density in cities than creative solutions can be applied. Cheers.
>>546105849>thenMeh
>>546105849
>>546099421Fippy bippy. Stay away from chink or US brands.
>>546106115Glad you read the rest of the thread.
>>546106115You might be retarted.
>>546099320if you are going to larp get one of these. I use to use one in airsoft they are pretty good.
>>546101505You can direction find a vhf yes. Unless the vhf/uhf is using directional antenna. The only way to intercept and find that signal is to be between it.Depending on what type of frequency used you can do all kinds of fucky shit. If you had a forward operation radio say on 80 or 40 meter bands and your antenna is only 10 feet off the ground your signal is mostly going vertical and bouncing off the ionosphere back down in a 50 mile radius. You cant accurately hone in on that because the signal is comming from the sky. But the antenna is also very long so its not good for extra mobile operation.Omnidirectional antennas are the normal kind of antenna but directional antennas or NVIS (near vertical incident skywave) dipole setups are secure in that they do not give position away.Using digital like ft8 you couls send a clear signal with as little power as 100mw that would take 2 seconds of time. Not enough time for an opposing force to hear, then hone in on location and send an exploding quad your way.Its not a simple as people make it out to be but also more complex in certain aspects. Radio is extremely versatile and will never go away even with the advent of sattelite communications.
>>546099320Why is this shitty MIC crap being shilled on /pol/ in recent weeks?Datamining for China so they can track orders to see if there's a SHTF coming up?
>>546106400Larp even harder and get the aluminum chassis off ebay for 300. Theyre pretty damn nice
What is a /pol approved budget friendly radio for basement dwellers?
>>546106953Radio is a valid form of cummunication when cellular networks and internet become inaccessible. Its worth talking about. Environmental disasters are a perfect example. Larping about militia comms is just another lense.Radio is fun and has political connotations as well.
>>546107125Baofeng uv5r. Radtel rx470, trusdx or qrp labs QMX+ for hf radio transcievers. For recieve any hf all band reciever will do. Or an rtlsdr plugged into your PC
>>546099320Learn cw and get a portable 100w setup in a suitcase and an end tuned end fed half wave antenna and you'll reach significantly far further than you can with voice because chances are if shit goes down so will repeaters. And a 5w Bing bong isn't going far at all.
>>546100177Doubles checked No need for transmitting unless you have a group to coordinate. Scanning and listening though can be useful.
>>5461075025w handy talkies are for local family communications anyways. 100watts in a suitcase for CW is just excessive. 10 watts will go trans continental pretty easy. Also antennas gotta be like 35 ft up if youre doing what i think your doing which is skip propogation. Im no expert but ive had A lot of luck with my current setup. What kind of radio do you use? Usually i have a trusdx with a spektrum rc battery pushing 3-5 watts but i e been playing with qrp labs equipment and a 10 watt amplifier and it seems theres a drastic difference in range. Before that i was building tunable pixies using VFOs and was reaching russia and one time australia from the midwest us. Well tuned antennas seem to be a critical factor.
>>546107649Correct. In which case. HF or just an sdr tuner will do most just fine.
>>546106654troposcatter renegades ftw
>>546099320I own a couple of Baofeng's, but am apprehensive about chink electronics in any SHTF scenario. I really need to find some that aren't hecho in China.
>>546108252Hell yea dude. Its one way to go about it.
>>546108292The problem is that you wont find that. Not with the same function. Fuck paying for a yeasu thats only capable of transmitting in legal ham bands. And i e seen some pretty reliable chink electronics.
>>546099320If/when shit hits the fan, radio like this won't help you. Even theoretically, what do you expect to hear there during shtf ?.
>>546103571I've always wondered if you stayed within the 2.4ghz (or other) ISM band on a high enough antenna could you do all that kind of fun stuff on a large property with a SDR without any legal crap. Should be able to get pretty good range with enough height and power. At some point though you are just re-inventing wifi. I don't have anyone to talk to anyway
>>546099320MOSSAD AGENT WANTING ANONS TO BUY THE NEW ISRAELI 'BOOM' BOX...
>>546104092meshtastic, meshcore, reticulum: which one is gods chosen and which is for goyim?
>>546107168So it ties into the muh blackouts LARP but why shill this and not a proper, non-MIC radio?
>>546109812Since you didn’t ask
>>546109812Meshtastic and ATAK for the goyim
>>546110411i tried meshcore in my area and found that messages tend to carry further but i wasnt aware parts of the app are paywalled. thats gotta the goyish option of the bunch
>>546110289Depends what you view as a proper non MIC radio. Trusdx, QCX,QMX are all great HF radios for the budget oriented and can be built from kits for those who wish to save a buck or like to build stuff. Iceom IC 730s are great oldschool base radios. Yeasu 750gx is another example. For modern hf and high power youre looking at something like an icom ic7300. Which is sdr and uses the same shit as some yeasu. Theres also ELEKRAFT which is US kit makers for hf or can be purchased completed. All bands all modes.For walkie talkie style shit on vhf yeasu kenwood and icom all make similar offerings with shit like fusion dstar and are digital mobile. The build quality is higher in that the reciever is better made and wont overload and the tx side of things has potentially fewer spurious emission. But none of that really matters as everybodys taken to the chinese shit anyways. Many models tend to perform plenty fine for anybody whos just using simple frequencies or linking up to a repeater. Youd never know the difference. Ive had a radtel rx470 for 6 years and its my go to radio for events, meets or emergencies. Its never not worked. How is that any different than something fancier from yeasu or kenwood when the vast majority of use cases are repeater calls and adhoc communication?Thats why i dont shill. It doesnt matter. If it recieves and sends within spec of the FCC its just as good as any other radio doing the same.
>>546099421>retarded boomer opiniondiscarded
>>546112520Bumping to keep an interesting thread alive
>>546099421Deploy honey model
>>546112520If shit hits the fan go to mlitary baracs and get those radios. I remember we could listen to peoples mobile phones with soviet gear back in early 2000s and the nato usa stuff was proper gear.
>>546113532Something like this
>>546109812we use meshtastic but i want reticulumthat one is so much cooler
>>546108818>what do you expect to hear there during shtf ?Mostly screaming and incomprehensible knockoff Alex Jones babble with the occasional honeypot. If the internets down what else am I going to do? Go and talk to real people outside my dirty basement? Nice try, but not today Ivan.
>>5461137353d printed plastic radio?
>>546114026Thats what your army uses I think. Sincgars something I forgot. Long time ago.
>>546115092Anon1 to anon 2 over NIGGER over and out
youd have to be a fool to trust any product shilled here on pol
>>546100846Get the uv98 plus(radtel 880).Great for listening on absolutely anything, and 10 watts for what you want to talk on.
>>546099442>get your amateur radio license for exampleThe invading German force used amateur radio licenses as a kill list back in 1939. Do what you want to with that information.
>>546101313You're not allowed to legally send encrypted ANYTHING over the air as a pleb, and the only license that'll let you do that is the military one. So why bother?You want radios for the collapse?Don't be naive enough toget a license for using them. You can have them and figure out how to use them with a dummy load, so you can know how to use them when the laws don't matter so much anymore. .They took all the registered radios during ww1 and 2, they'll do it again during 3.
>>546099320fuck that glowie shit you wanna be on lora/mesh so the pigs have to find you the old fashioned way whi h will never happen
>>546099320Man I'm not waiting for the collapse of civilisation so I can start talking to fucking people.
>>546101313You're not allowed to legally send encrypted ANYTHING over the air as a pleb, and the only license that'll let you do that is the military one. So why bother?You want radios for the collapse?Don't be naive enough toget a license for using them. You can have them and figure out how to use them with a dummy load, so you can know how to use them when the laws don't matter so much anymore. .They took all the registered radios during ww1 and 2, they'll do it again during 3.>>546107168Radio is also one of the most intelligent, real world application hobbies you can have, ever. Every iota of the things you require for convenience in your life is built in the principles found in radio. If you're easily bored, you'll have lots to do with radio knowledge, gear, research, and experimentation. Seriously, radio is the original autists sport after trigonometry. Spend $50 on a couple of uvk5's and learn a little or a lot. You could do a lot worse with that money.
>>546107905>tunable pixiesTell me more. Any schematics?Trying to get the kids interested by being interested.
>>54610790520 watts out of a g90 with a very easy to built center fed antenna has gotten me 7000km on 27.385. As useless as CB is probably going to be in a shtf situation, it will definitely be better than nothing.It's where I would start if I was starting with radios.
