Good thing we can't afford meat now and have to replace it with something else. Got any studies on tortillas and beans related to aging?
>>546108930if this were true all those vegetarian indians wouldn't look like an old leather couch
>>546108930Okay? Why would i want to live past 70 anyway?
>>546108930i drink homemade collagen rich bone broth every day
>>546108930Who care about slowing aging.The core of your life as a man is 20 to 50, dying at 65 or 85 doesn't really matter
>>546108930The longest living populations eat a decent amount of meat don't fall for the psyop. Red meat and dairy make you virile.They don't want high test males.
>>546109237You won't know til u get there.
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>>546109361it will matter a LOT when you're 64 senpai
>>546108930Your whole body is made out of protein. Carbs are a shitty delivery system for minerals.
>>546109033veggies has protein too, only thing that has zero protein is foreskins so it will be only thing not banned to be eaten
>>546108930go back to israel and face the music kikestop hiding in greece
>>546108930>Science says you need to eat the bugs >Me 5 seconds later
>>546109385Lol. Red meat and dairy kill you with heart attacks from clogging your arteries unless you only eat in moderation. I’m sorry you fell for the ketogenic meme. Better go get your heart and blood checked out
>>546108930existence of Indian debunk the whole veganism non sense
>>546108930Great, more for me
>>546111111witnessed
>>546109516i just want to let you know that i see you and i appreciate you. fuck this gayreek faggot
>>546111111A fucking leaf.
Eating less proteins past 40 also greatly increases the rate of sarcopenia which eventually leads you to progressively lose motor function.
>>546108930I didnt
Eating has been linked to turbo-cancer and superdeath.
>>546108930This just in: no matter what you do you die in the end
>>546111111checked
>>546110078>Lol. Red meat and dairy kill you with heart attacks from clogging your arteries unless you only eat in moderation.source: jewish lies
>>546111111a fucking leaf
>>546108930Need to see the review in detail. One thing I can already say is that vegetables have been pushed as the most healthy food for at least 60 years, and red meat in particular has been said to cause heart disease for a similar amount of time. Whole dairy products have been said to be fattening/unhealthy as well. All this to say, the people who are more likely to be “health conscious” over the past half century have likely been listening to the mainstream “consensus” and have been on diets consisting of smaller amounts of animal protein than those who are less health conscious. Those who drink alcohol, smoke, and eat tons of processed foods were more likely to consume lots of animal protein than the former group. So it depends on if the studies also factored in lifestyle, exercise levels, overall diet, alcohol/tobacco use, etc.
>>546108930Eating is one of the only enjoyments in life. What is the point of living long if you can't even enjoy food.
>>546108930Cool, im not gunna stop consuming animal protein though. Good luck you weak ass faggots.
>>546108930It's not from eating protein it's from an amino acid imbalance from modern dietary habits, specifically imbalance between leucine and glycine. The kind of protein sources people like to eat (chicken breasts, steak, whey, etc) are all abundant in leucine but lacking in glycine. You can correct this by either taking collagen supplements, or preferably eating more glycine heavy food like meat on the bone, tougher slow cooking cuts like ox tail, bone broth, fish skin, chicken feet, etc.
>>546110078Still aint stopping. Cope harder you weak ass bitch.
>>546108930why do you fall for vegan propaganda. They always throw heavily procced nitrated meat in these studies. Lets do a study on vegan diet and make 90% of it donuts. See how healthy that study comes out.
Vegans lie as much as leftoids do, which is all the time.
Eating in general causes aging. That's why thin people look younger for longer. They've done studies on mice where they live 50% longer on average if they feed them the bare minimum required to live.
>>546109883trvke
It doesn't slow aging, neither does limiting carbs - you can eat nearly all carbs and be just as healthy as long as they come from fruit and vegetables. The only thing that we really know is modern processed foods cause cancer and at least make aging worse (I'm sure nothing actually fundamentally affects the aging process, though the damage to organs and skin shouldn't be underestimated). People just have "studies" to back everything up now. Another study will say actually high protein slows aging. Another study says lifting weights actually slows aging. It's all 100% nonsense.
>>546110078You're a fucking retarded faggot, I worked with a faggot cardiologist who never ate meat and the nigger literally died of a heart attack at 53. As you broccoli headed nappy mongrel muttoids would say, he was IRONYMAXXING
>>546112515Not true at all - the calorie restriction cult are the biggest loons and deniers of fact of them all. The mice experiments are totally nonsense due to different strains of mice and the fact that none of them were living in the wild. All the latest studies on "calorie restriction" show it doesn't work at all, it was essentially a hoax pushed by people with incentives to make it look like it works. Eating plenty and exercising to be a healthy weight makes you live longer and appear younger than "calorie restriction". It was just a fad of people who thought they were onto something, sacrificed a lot to keep up their efforts not to eat and kept doubling down until all the data proved them objectively wrong in a way they could no longer deny. Calorie restriction = Nonsense.
>>546112043To ask the question is to answer it, anon. I mean do you think they ever took Roosevelt EO to make enriched flour in cereals and pasta mandatory, when they made the first study that claimed fluoride was good for your teeth? Despite the study in question, which lasted for 10 year (aka enough time for the policy to affect the new generation of student teeth health), starting the very same year as the executive order coming into action?(((They))) love to steal the valor from the deeds of others as their own, easy legitimacy.
>>546109237A steak is just as delicious after 70 as before!I believe my dad!
>>546109361> 50That's when you should retire. In the optimal case.20 to 50: work your ass off50 to 80: prepare for death
Every vegan male I know is a scrawny faggot (true vegan) or a fat fuck (substitute loving vegan), and both have no muscles to be seen.
>>546113010The issue with caloric restriction is that if you barely eat for a long lenght of time, your body goes into subsistance mode until you start eating properly, whence it shove all that stuff into fat because as far as the body can tell, it was because you were starving so it make itself fat reserves so the organism is more likely to survive as a whole. Its kinda like if someone eat all the time, the body put the excess into fat, same system but different circumstances.Its why peoples who undergo diets/fasting then start eating again get fat super fast.
>>546108930I wouldn't want to live forever eating acai bowls and rabbit food.
>>546110078>dairy>ketololKeto requires dairy in moderation, because of the inherent need to minimize carb intake.. Pasteurized dairy does cause atherosclerosis, however. Cooking dairy makes it form tiny pointy crystals that inadvertently scrape blood vessels.Eating more fat than you can metabolize will increase blood pressure. Eating more carbs than can be metabolized outright poisons the body. Eating high amounts of both lowers the threshold for triggering the Randell effect (cycle is a misnomer).Plant based foods must be properly prepared in order to minimize the phytotoxins and antinutrients, as well as maximize the bioavailability of the nutrients.Cooking meat makes it form carcinogens, but you don't hear about people getting cancer from veggies let alone meat, even through plants have far more carcinogens than cooked meat.
>>546112609>bioavailability ignoredDon't eat more of any nutrient than can be metabolized.
What is "less" protein?
>>546113505Getting older and having less required daily intake of protein.
>>546113538Less from what amount? The previous recommended amount? The average amount people consume during a day? Or the amount gym goers attempt to chase? Less from what?
>>546108930Laughs in Hitler.
>>546113501Plant protein doesn't have a full amino acid profile, rare exceptions being quinoa and buckwheat. Even if you mixed and matched there's no hard science say your body absorbs it. Plant iron isn't readily absorbed either. Lastly there's B12 which flat out doesn't exist in any plants.
>>546109237Imagine what gaming will look like. We'll be in ready player 1 universe
>>546108930for some reason i think that only white people actually need to eat meat.>blacksafrica and tropical florests are full of fruits, eating meat is sporadic. black DNA can survive well eating dirt, fruits, and sometimes meat.>asiansdeveloped to survive with fishing and sporadic hunting on red meat, but DNA focused on plants and fish. aka sushi.>white peopleactually has anemic body constituition, needs and enjoy meat eating to replenish their natural anemic body. don´t eat vegetables because they compete for iron in the digestion, the few plants they eat, are very often related to the cattle that eat it.>kikeseat humans because they are reptilians hybrids. so they love human meat. they were used to eat black people meat, because niggers reproduce without order, but kikes got addicted to white people meat. is actually preying on white people kids meat.
>>546113845As an epidemiologist and public health specialist I endorse this message.
>>546108930The obsession with slowing down aging is pathetic. Live your prime years hard and burn out bright. Who gives a shit if at age 50 you look like shit and at age 70 you are dead if you lived a quality life? Much better than these losers who never go outside or eat meat or do anything because of an irrational fear of getting older, what's the point of living longer if you never do anything? Quality > Quantity.
>>546109033we live in auspicious times friend, the future will be kind to us
>>546108930What you faggots mean by slowing aging is just being undeveloped from malnutrition. If you fall for the anti meat agenda in current year you're Goyim and NGMI. Eat ze bugs and enjoy the slave society like the human livestock you are.
>>546113501yes its good advice not to eat too much proteinplant protein is "only" around 90% bioavailable. not a big deal if you litereally cannot get a diet now enough in protein in which sufficient calories are delivered>>546113746this is nonsense. the entire premise is false, and comes from one diet book in the 60s, and the author has since corrected her mistake in subsequent editions of the book. despite this, people are still convinced this is true.all plants have all amino acids in them. there is no need at all to mix and match foods to get a so called "complete protein". just something a woman made up to sell some books.plant iron is only absorbed a little less easily by the body, its not drastic at all, and this is not a common problem for a person on a sensible diet. there are medical reasons a person might maybe kinda need more iron, but those are people with bleeding disorders etc. plus heme iron from animal food is TOO readily taken up and can result in excess iron. its also pro inflammatory and a pro oxidant which damages tissues. and when the body's iron stores are low in vegetarians, the gut just absorbs more from the food. also vegetarians and vegans usually have more than enough iron intake because plant foods are full of iron that you can't overdose onand bacteria make b12, animals don't. in the days before sanitation, you could most likely get enough b12 just from the bacteria that ends up on your hands. both human and animal feces are full of b12, so if you dont know about soap and live all day among animals, you are probably good lol. just from poo. it also takes about 20 years to get through your vitamin b12 stores, and you can buy 1000 supplements that give you 1000x the rda in one go for a few bucks. the only people who present with clinical deficiency (aka actual symptoms not le low number) are outliers, like people with bariactric surgery, or they had a horrible accident and had part of their gut removed.
>>546113746>>546116669here, you can read this for yourself.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468774/>The objective of this study was to evaluate the serum levels of ferritin and the prevalence of iron deficiency in vegan and omnivorous individuals by taking into account the presence of elements that cause an elevation of ferritin levels, such as increased homeostatic model assessment of insulin resistance (HOMA-IR), body mass index (BMI), and high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) values. The parameters were evaluated in 1340 individuals, i.e., 422 men and 225 women who do not menstruate and 693 women who do menstruate, based on omnivorous or vegetarian eating habits. The progressive increase in BMI, HOMA-IR, and inflammation caused an elevation in ferritin concentration, regardless of the eating habits in the groups studied. In the overall sample, omnivores had a higher prevalence of obesity, higher ferritin levels, and a lower prevalence of iron deficiency (ferritin < 30 ng/mL). However, after the exclusion of individuals with inflammation (with overweight/obesity and elevated hs-CRP levels), the actual iron deficiency was assessed and was not higher among vegetarians, except in women with regular menstrual cycles. Our data show that nutritional status and inflammation levels affect ferritin levels and may interfere with the correct diagnosis of iron deficiency in both vegetarian and omnivorous individuals. Compared to vegetarians, women who do not menstruate and men had the same prevalence of iron deficiency when following an omnivorous diet.so you can see that adding in meat and dairy is not a good idea. it causes inflammation which makes the ferritin levels look higher.and you dont need maxxed out ferritin either, just enough. too much is actually bad for you, as you can see. excess iron is highly reactive and oxidizes (rust!!) in the body, causing all kinds of knock on issues.
>>546109033MEXICANT FOOD WILL SOON BE ILLEGAL YOU FUCKING CHUDGENDER
>>546109385>look at blue zones of highest density of 100+ year olds>all coastal >all fish and grain dietsketolards are the dumbest people on the entire planet. I forgot how much I used to post on /ck/ endlessly calling them all retarded. Maybe /ck/ is usable now, a few years ago they had the biggest sperg janny that allowed no fun. I got a month long ban once for having too many prior bans (50+)
>>546108930Same 350 miraculously™ find that drinking water out of data centers™ especially Microsoft™ ones makes your life 300x longer trust the science™ goy
>>546108930>study says
>>546108930now do a study on glyphosate
>>546108930>research shows <convenient make believe to control the peasants>its so tiresome
> muh ebil meat
>>546110078Fake news.Humans in more or less our current form have been around for a million years. Where do you think people got their toufu and GMO broccoli and banana bullshit back in the day eh?
>>546108930t. vegan for 22 years.I grew up with vegan parents, given onions milk as a child, ate gardien meat and daiya cheese and vegenaise. Did the whole nutritional yeast thing. Just here to say this is the stupidest propaganda I've ever seen.> switched to meat after I turned 22Brain fog went away. Stopped being so tired all the time (I literally used to fall asleep in public due to constant fatigue). Mood improved significantly. Stopped getting kidney stones and my hair stopped falling out. Stopped getting colds all the time. Also I gained 60 pounds. That 60 pounds literally just filled me out, I am finally average size after being underweight my entire life.I'm the shortest in my family, all the non-vegan men in my family stand at over 6 ft and I'm 5' 8" or so. Yeah, doctors told me I was underweight and needed meat. Believed this dumb propaganda because it was instilled in me from childhood. But we've been eating meat as a species since the beginning of time and it's never been a problem.AMA if you want to know anything but OP, you're a faggot.
>not supplying your body with the building material it needs makes you degenerate slower
>>546109237I hear this a lot from youngsters but the amount of people 70+ I meet who still want to do things, live, and be happy is very high. To the point where it’s kind of changed my outlook for those years and how I live my life.
>>546108930A normal life as a strong male or a longer life than usual as an effeminate twink
>>546118797thats not what protein does at alland israel has more vegans per capita than any other place on earth. if this is a big plan to make the goyim weak then why are they doing it to themselves? oh wait you're on a discord channel dispatched in the same exact way that jidf is.>• An August 2025 analysis by Faunalytics reviewing over 1 million posts found that 53 high-engagement accounts—96% of which had financial incentives—drove widespread carnivore and anti-plant-based narratives.https://faunalytics.org/how-instagram-influencers-spread-nutrition-misinformation/
>>546113323If you retire that early you are literally getting ready to die.The trick is never really stop but go at a slower pace.That's the key to longevity.
>>546120120It's because of brainwashed Goyim like you that there are people like >>546118786 that suffered and are now underdeveloped. Jews are still just livestock to the Elite that control them and fall for their own poison of faggotry, including the faggotry that is the malnourishment of humans that is veganism. Plants aren't human food and anyone who advocates for their consumption deserves their fate in the slave society. Anyone that wants to see what large scale meat avoidance leads to can just look at the disgusting filth that plagues Humanity that are Pajeet (which you clearly are).
>>546120544checki see you have very strong feelings about meat. it's nice to see you're not a slave but a world striding colossus. must be all the burgers.
eating red meat every single day is unhealthy thoughever.
>>546109033In the coming months things will get a lot better>b-but it's a uniparty!No
>>546120120>saaar meat propaganda>saaaar do no redeem the meaaaat>saaaaaaaaar
>>546122291Only if you're the one not being genocided.
I will get old and enjoy the food I eat and a lot of it will have meat in it no matter what these ant meat people say...If you don't eat meat fine but just shut up and enjoy your weak pale feeble existence...
>>546111111Rare quality leaf and quality digits
>>546108930Meat is full of endotoxins. We're meant to eat fresh fruit. Preferably ones with protective peels.
>>546122832Fresh fruit is toxic.
>>546109385Every vegan looks half dead. The only evidence you need is your eyeballs and a modicum of common sense.
>>546108930>you dont understand meat increases aging
>>546108930>agingand how exactly do they measuring "aging"
