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Pornography and masturbation is the cigarrete of the soul.
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>>546119189
Porn is worse than any drug
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>>546119189
Tobacco is good for you in small doses
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>>546119189
ah i see, gotcha. thanks anon.
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>>546119189
>>546119326
come and take it then you puritan faggots
you'll never stop me from jerking off to my disgusting porn
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>>546119326
LMAO! Busting a nut for a man is as much of a required bodily function as taking a shit or a piss. Using porn to do that is only a natural thing if intercourse isn't an option. Why do you Puritans deny biological reality?
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>>546119326
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>>546119189
>>546119582
jerking off as a sin and it being harmful to the soul is from the greek philosophy that the roman catholic church pushes.
In the OT you were merely ceremonial unclean until the evening on the same natural level as female menstruation.
dont push this catholic garbage.
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>>546120195
The same harm that cigarettes cause to the body, pornography causes to your soul. Each time you smoke, your body becomes more dead, and each time you view pornography, your soul becomes more dead. This is an undeniable fact.
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>>546119552
>Busting a nut for a man is as much of a required bodily function
No its not tranny
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Semen is poison. It's prolonged storage is toxic which is why you spunk in what they refer to as a NOCTURNAL EMISSION at night if you don't get rid of it. Why would your body just expel a fluid that's built up? Obviously because you're supposed to.
It has to be relieved of you (even manually) or you'll die
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>>546120518
>and each time you view pornography, your soul becomes more dead
no it does not, you dont start life with 100% soul energy and lose it for bad deeds and get it back with good deeds. this is pagan logic.
you start off with your soul being dead in sin, only faith in Jesus finished sacrifice and being born again in the Holy Spirit you are actually alive and dont ever lose it again.
you feel like shit after watching porn because you deep down know its only pictures and you crave the affection. stop mystifying it.
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>>546119189
they are awesome and cool?
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>>546119189
smoke 'em if you got 'em
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>>546120717
>no it does not, you dont start life with 100% soul energy and lose it for bad deeds and get it back with good deeds.
Yes, it does. Pornography causes depressive symptoms, anxiety, and loneliness. These are signs from the soul that it is dying.
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>>546120899
your soul IS dead if you are not in Christ Jesus by default.
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>>546120647
One time I kept mine in for so long it shot from my nose in a sneeze.
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>>546119189
a quick empty high that gives you cancer in the long run
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>>546120937
Every time you view pornography, you distance yourself from God and from your purpose, this is the death of the soul.
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>>546120960
Did you at least pearl necklace a co-worker when you did?
How would you even explain that to HR?
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>>546121058
just repent and stop blaming pornography for the hardness of your heart
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Porn has sexually liberated men and feminists are seething.
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>>546121154
I am sharing some knowledge. You also need to repent, because you cannot "walk with Christ" while simultaneously being addicted to pornography. Porn kills the soul; but perhaps that truth is too much for you.
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>>546120717
I'm currently under the belief everyone is dead in the sense that the future is already written and I've had a soft existential crisis for several years as I try to figure out how free will is genuinely attainable, and I have current fears that the only way to do that is through sin as I cannot find a way that's rooted in methods other than opposition.
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>>546119189
I like cigarettes

Porn is cringe
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>>546121350
no, you tell absolute bullshit.

>because you cannot "walk with Christ" while simultaneously being addicted to pornography
I never said that, but you will never conquer porn without God making you a new man from within.

>Porn kills the soul; but perhaps that truth is too much for you.
everyone is already dead in sin, this is what you dont get. pornography is the symptom of humanity being dead in sin.

>>546121358
free will exists only in a very limited matter, a better perspective would be participation in an environment you are not in charge of.
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Semen is a fluid that must be spent.
It comes out voluntarily while you sleep if you don't blow your load once in a while.
Does your blood do this? No because blood is vital and semen is a toxin like urine, feces which also must be eliminated when it builds up ..
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>>546121563
You do not understand the reality of the soul; naturally, the soul is already dead if it is not connected to the source of all things, to the Creator.

Moreover, the more vices a soul consumes, the deader it becomes, and the more difficult it grows to connect to that Source.

Pornography is harmful to the soul, whether that of a believer or a skeptic. It's an undeniable reality that you are attempting to deny.

Let me explain it clearly: the closer a soul draws to Hell, the deader it becomes; conversely, the closer a soul draws to God, the more alive it becomes. A living soul radiates peace, joy, strength, and hope, whereas a dead soul conveys sadness, anxiety, anguish, and loneliness.
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>>546121999
this is catholic teaching and not true.
the soul has a on/off switch, not a health bar.
either you are dead, or you are alive.
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jerking off using your mind alone is natural and biological o algo
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OP I think you are a retarded nigger
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>>546122143
Wrong, those who commit more sins, and more serious sins, they have a much more troubled soul. Conversely, those who practice love more abundantly and possess a firmer faith are far holier than those who do nothing. It is your protestant logic that is flawed.
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>>546121999
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
So ...my neighbor who has three boys under 8 decides his wife isn't giving him the goods anymore so he starts chatting up some whore homewrecker at work, thinking he''l get some side action. Gets caught and is now living alone since his wife divorced him.
This dumbfuck could have spanked it like a normal guy to some porn , saved himself the shame and embarrassment of tearing his family apart and those little boys would have their father instead of living in a single mother home.
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>>546122304
James 2
9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. 11 For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

you are believing in works based salvation which is unbiblical.
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Alcohol and casual sex is the video game of the spirit
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>>546119189
Do you have a shred of evidence? Or are you yet another brown fuckup blaming his self inflicted problems on da pronz?
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>>546122384
Pornography is already a form of adultery. The "idiot" shouldn't have cheated on his wife in the first place; he was likely already consuming pornography and decided to take things a step further, he reaped what he sowed.
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>>546122541
Lets say you are tempted to go outside and look for what you aren't getting at home.
Then instead of messing around because you want to get your jollies off...sans the messy divorce and stds etc...low and behold..turn on the computer or tv and catch a tittie flick , rub one out...everyone is happy.
Don't be a sanctimonious prick.. you holier than thou types are excruciating. It's constant virtue signalling with you all....it's exhausting and the punchline is ...I bet behind closed doors you all have some funny tenancies. I know the priests in your churches droning on sure do.
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>>546122431
James 2:17 (KJV)

"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

James 2:26 (KJV)

"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
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>>546122819
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”

faith before/with works. not the gotcha you were hoping for.
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>>546122449
Good analogy. I’ll keep this one.
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>>546120195
this
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This is supposed to be a board about politics. Religion threads belong on /his/.
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>>546122959
These guys clearly aren't worried about their souls. Maybe remind them why their behavior is affecting the birth rates and creating a low trust environment by being indifferent to mass immigration because it might satisfy their bbc addiction. Oh wait, you are catholic.
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>>546122431
Just because you are already in a state of mortal sin and headed for Hell, it does not mean your soul is identical to those of everyone else in the same condition.

The sin of a serial killer is more grave than that of a crime of passion. There are degrees of sin and states of the soul, this applies both to those who do evil and to those who do good.

>you are believing in works based salvation which is unbiblical.
The Holy Bible itself says that faith without works is dead. (James 2:26)
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>>546119189
This is true
The porn-ban age verification has been a G-d send to me. I aint verifying shit.
I am fucking my wife more, I have more drive and energy and flirty etc.
Saved my marriage
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>>546120195
>>546120611
not ejaculating will give you prostate cancer
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>>546120321
>>546120285
Pornhub, mindgeek etc were created and run by arabs back in the 2000 until recently. Mainly Syrian Feras Antoon and his brother, and friends like lebanese man Ouissam Youssef. Fabian Thylmann who bought Pornhub off the arabs for a few years and then sold it back to the arabs is not even jewish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feras_Antoon

The current owner of Pornhub is not a rabbi, the "rabbi" is just a partner in the company that owns Pornhub, the Manager of that company is a Lebanese man named Fady Mansour.
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>>546120611
T. 200 test
I've gone as long as 2 months but I start cumming in my sleep and go caveman mode over seeing a sideboob
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>>546122815
>Lets say you are tempted to go outside and look for what you aren't getting at home.
If you have a woman at home, you don't need to look for another, that's what you need to keep in mind, anything other than that will harm yourself and your family.
I don’t say this to condemn anyone, but to help; we all go through this, or know someone who does. Reality itself has a way of showing what is right and what is wrong.
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>>546119189
Cigarettes are the opiate of the masses
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>>546123251
>Just because you are already in a state of mortal sin and headed for Hell
I am justified before God by the blood of Christ spilled on my behalf, believing in his sacrifice for me personally in faith by grace that was given to me as a gift from God.
I am righteous with God, having been grafted into the wine that is Jesus Christ no by my own righteousness but being clothed in the righteousness of Jesus which I did not deserve.
I am being conformed into the image of Christ by God in the ongoing process of salvation, for it is God that is working in me by the power of the Holy Spirit.
I have the assurance of faith and assurance of salvation that God looses noone that he has given to Jesus and nobody snatches out of his hand.
I am at peace with God since God is the one that reached out to save a sinner from his sins by the blood of his Son Jesus.

I am sorry roman catholocism cant offer you the grace of God and you have to do all the work in your works based salvation lie like a hamster in the wheel.
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>>546122815
anon, you are talking to a brazilian.
A brazilian is trying to lecture you on sexual morality kek
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>>546123508
unless you married a supermodel,
you are beating your dick off down the line, if you cant cheat. There is no escaping it.
It goes against a man's nature to think of only one woman, let alone one that is getting old and ugly
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>>546123603
If you have been saved by God, your works will prove it. You cannot enter Heaven while remaining addicted to pornography or any other vicious or sin, that is a fact. When you choose pleasure, you are denying your purpose. It is a matter of choice, of free will. If you have chosen to follow Christ, you must persevere to the end, for many stumble along the way. Matthew 7: 21-23
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>>546123402
>but I start cumming in my sleep and go caveman mode over seeing a sideboob
This is actuality normal btw
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>>546124008
I am not here to say pornography is ok to watch.
I am here to refute your catholic doctrines that you can defeat porn addiction on your own without Jesus getting the glory.
it is God who works in you, not you yourself are God.
masturbation and ejaculation alone was never a deadly sin under Gods law in the first place.

so stop pushing your catholic dogma.
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>>546123927
>It goes against a man's nature to think of only one woman
And who says we ought to follow our "nature"? In the natural world, animals rape their own sisters. If you care about the well-being of your soul, your wife, your family, and your marriage, then you must follow your rational nature; otherwise, you will end up in misery. It’s that simple.
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>>546119189
>Pornography and masturbation
I only do it because
A Don't have women
B Even if i had a woman, i can't force her to have sex three or four times a day.
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>>546124157
>I am here to refute your catholic doctrines that you can defeat porn addiction on your own without Jesus getting the glory.
I never said that and this is not a catholic dogma. You deny pornography just because you want to follow the Christ Path but every time you sin you go away from Him and the true and eternal life.
>masturbation and ejaculation alone was never a deadly sin under Gods law in the first place.
It is. It breaks your contract with the Superior unless you repent. Every time you sin your soul becomes more and more dead untill the repetance. Even in Hell, there are people who are punished more severely because they were worse sinners.
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>>546124477
the entire point is that Jesus Christ paid for all of your sins. ofc you dont have the liberty to go on sinning, but it is the ongoing salvation that makes you leave your sinful former ways.
what you are teaching is that you can follow Christ on your own accord and own strength which is not christian to begin with.

>It is. It breaks your contract with the Superior unless you repent.
no, it never has, unclean until evening, then you wash and you are ceremonial clean. has nothing to do with breaking the commandments and barring you access from God.

>Every time you sin your soul becomes more and more dead untill the repetance.
repentance is a one time decision, not something you do repeatedly, just as your soul is either alive in Christ or dead in sin.
you believe in catholic fairly tales. either you are right with God or you are not, no matter the amount of sin. bearing false witness is the same as murder and idolatry and the punishment is the same.
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>>546119189
foids need lobotomy healthcare
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>>546124238
You’re Rich my guy!
You do know Abraham married his sister lol.
It never ends with the Biblethumpers mental gymnastics
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>>546123927
You are divorcing the fullness of the attraction. You are not merely attracted by the sexual appearence. You can start with it but as the personal bond deepens you will feel attracted to her by her whole being or grow distant to her due to BPD madness. It is retarded to think you have to have a supermodel at all times. You are an absurd degenerate. I am content with one wife because i know my role in the union between us and the understanding of my emotions. If i ever think my wife is ugly or something i will work to better it though care of her nutrition and her personality by talking to her. You know nothing of man's nature. You are just justifying your Sin of making sex your idol.
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>>546124721
Orthodoxy is true christianity. Everything else is heresy. Try asking the origin of your religion. It is so easy for those who seeks the truth.
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>>546125036
>gnosticism in disguise is true christianity
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It's the tongue that sets on course the fire of hell. It's what you say that matters. It's not what goes in a man that defiles him, but what proceeds out of his mouth that defiles him
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>>546119189
Masturbation is whatever man. Just dont make it your life goal that is it. Claiming it damages soul is outrageous. Porn are just a sex-imitation. Avoid Porn as best as you can but dont think it is a deadly sin or anything understand that each time you fall prey to it is that your body seeks a partner try to accomplish it to end it in earnest.
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>>546125118
You will answer the lord for your blasphemy one day. H
What an utter nonsense you spread. Always find an excuse to not examine your faith.
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>>546124891
>It is retarded to think you have to have a supermodel at all times.
some men do. Just because you cant do it, doesnt mean anyone shouldnt.
Its a classic among you christcucks. Your entire religion was created to give ugly men a shot at reproduction, by forcing women to marry your ass.
If we go deeper into it, we find it was a way for jews to get access to white women. Only your religion could make that possible
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>>546119189
Its such a bad waste of time once you hit late 30s. I am losing sleep over it to be able to do it without wife or kids knowing too. Even if I didn't have a wife it feels so much easier to go down rabbit holes now. When I was in my 20s I would easily be able to find something get off in 15 minutes and move on. Then I tried gooning and it felt good. Well, I got married got rid of the gooning but now whenever I try I always have this ADHD where I cannot just focus down on anything then I get soft and have to try again and now sometimes its an HOUR to cum but my brain hates the feeling of never cumming so I keep doing it. Now I am a bit addicted now that I have this system to where I can cum once a night but its losing me sleep but dude I found a way to make it so intense using a bath towel its so addictive to bust where every nerve ending is just getting shredded in a good way so I am finding it so hard to stop even though I look like shit getting 6 hours of sleep nightly. A big problem is having a wife who kind of hates sex and is fine just letting me play around.

>>546124374
Absolutely this, we cannot be satisfied by our women they love to have sex for an hour but if you do that they are done for the day they got shit to do. Myself, I would rather stress free just cum four times in 2 hours or maybe more than holding it in for her.
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>>546125118
Orthodoxy is NOT gnosticism. Gold award for that mental gymnastic jump.
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>>546125405
>by their fruits you will know them
its obvious if you look at who are the modern day pharisees are. the religious elites calling on the cattle to attend their ritual sacrifices or they are not justified and go to their cults hell.
by their fruits you will know them. death cults, all of them.
Jesus is God of the living, not the dead.
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>>546125551
>what is Theosis
>you will be like God
hmmm
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Yeah masturbation is bad for you in ways addicts to it can't see because they don't know what a high energy state is like. But I refuse to totally villainize it because it's a good way to destress and sleep. Not everyone has the luxury of going without masturbation because the brain needs some kind of dopamine stimulating activity to retain sanity. And if you naturally want to jerk off, just do it. Don't argue against yourself.
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>>546119189
Sex is just horrible for you in general and destroys the soul
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>>546125456
You vile abomination forsake the good thing in yourself to pursue the vainess of your hardened heart. I dont give a fuck about these man who choose to be evil they can go shit themselves. Your believe reduces the union between man and woman only as a mean for reproduction you worthless garbage. Talking gibberish about access to white woman the farther away the west from christian value the more access for jews came about. Keep on dreaming your bullcrap. I will pursuit the happiness as the lord intented. The value of the abstract love of loyalty is unjustifiable under your atheist or pagan nonsense but without it there will be no civilization.
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>>546126170
>the union between man and woman only as a mean for reproduction you worthless garbage
thats funny because thats how christianity views marriage and sex. A way for reproduction. Which is why the church is against anti conceptives (condoms).
Marriage is pagan tradition way older than your jew religion. But i dont expect someone who knows nothing outside the jew book catholics handed to you to have any clue about how the world operates
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>>546125642
This is just lazy. If you want to look at the fruit have you visited an orthodx church? To beable to examine their work what they do for family and the work they do for worship? You haven't you just assumed something with you own faulty understanding to an practice without trying to know the fullnessbof the bible with patristic commentary and history of the church. You would be interested in these if you want to know the truth because words often does not translate the full meaning of the original and the bible came from the orthodox church. How can you a man understand something better than it's author? >>546125668
You just like judas thinks the grace and l
the goodness of God is bot big enough. Instead of hardening your heart to avoid learning the full reward in heavens you should visit a church and study in earnest. Judas took his own life even though God was willing to accept his apology and wanted him to repent so he also might be saved. Dont let your stubborness stand your way to the truth.
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to this day you put a ring on your wife when you marry her. That is not a christian tradition btw
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Christianity is the kindergarten of Communism. Jesus Christ was the first Anarcho-Communist. The rich will never make it to heaven because of their sinful ways. Heaven is for the poor and working man.
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>>546119326
Imagine believing this retard shit.
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>>546126556
You are just attacking cathotic heresy. If you were really interested to know what christianity means you wouldn't use that sorry excuse of an organization but atlast you must be lied by them or something making your personal grievence your whole life. Pagan my ass you have 0 metaphysics training do you? What does God mean in your world? Every claim about God in your worldview must be coherent for everything that exist and logically sound. Non of the pagan believes has an coherent worldview because the very notion of having multiple Gods is retarded it is like saying multiple different forces that can make anything happen which begs the question why is now the supposed zeus not allmighty but poseidon? And why is there other gods if Zeus is allmighty in all realms? You just assume something is true because you believe it is older instead of examing in earnst. Pagan was just an testament for why man needs the real God. Every Pagan religion is just telling a story of man's mistake. Get over it Pagan will never come back the old orthodox apologetic demolished your nonsense with sound logic and coherent theology. That is why your ancestor converted.
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>>546126637
dont tell me you became orthodox because the lust of your eyes and pride of life. because it looks good, and feels good doesnt mean it is good. how is patristic commentary or the bloody history of any church profitable? you are just going off on vibes and feelings.

>if you want to know the truth because words often does not translate the full meaning of the original and the bible came from the orthodox church
it doesnt even use the textus receptus and has to insert all this mystery bullshit instead of preaching the clear Word and Gospel of Christ and his accomplished work on the cross.
can the orthodox church even provide you with assurance of salvation or do you have to worry about falling out of grace all the time?

>How can you a man understand something better than it's author?
by receiving true faith in repentance and being born in the Holy Spirit who brings all things into remembrance just like Jesus promised? that is having the author in your midst giving you the clear understanding of his Word.

>You just like judas thinks the grace and l
>the goodness of God is bot big enough.
what has anything of that to do with judas who betrayed the Lord just as the clergy does.
and how can you say Gods grace is Not good enough? are you mental? we are talking about the sovereign God over his own creation, how can you ever reach out to him with your own fallen flesh and works? preposterous. you will never be good enough on your own to please the Lord.

>Instead of hardening your heart to avoid learning the full reward in heavens you should visit a church and study in earnest.
Christ is our teacher and we should be secure having inherited the kingdom in this life already and not hoping fruitlessly for its arrival. Jesus preached that his Kingdom is already among us.

>God was willing to accept his apology and wanted him to repent so he also might be saved.
Jesus himself said it would have been better for him not to be born, he was destined to betray Jesus.
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>>546126804
Says the communist. Being rich is a good in itself it does not deny the heavens to whom is rich but is sure fuels the delusion of man and blind him from virtues. If what you say were true then why are not all christians beggers?
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>>546119189
I fapped way too hard to Cherokee D'ass one night and my penis burst right off my crotch in a violent fashion. It was horrific. I didn't even get to the end of the video. That is how I lost my dick. I only have my balls.
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>>546119326
Absolutely it damages more than the individual, it damages society itself. You might not ever meet your soulmate because you were just barely satisfied gooning alone. It destroys young men's motivation to go out and meet women and it destroys women by normalizing sex into a transactional activity and not something special.
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>>546127301
You are full of prelest. You understand nothing of pride and lust yet you accuse me of such things just because i hit you where it hurts. You were the one who asked look for their fruits i pointed it out clearly how to do it but you want your comfort of you false teaching even doubling down on your incorrect understanding of the meaning of the bible. It is a waste of time to talk to you because you always invent new question and issues. You are mental you cant even read what i wrote. Yeah man you knew jesus better than those who are the continuetion of the people who met him. Yeah jesus did not say he will leave a church. Your brain on protestan heresy. Absolute delusion you worship a book written by the group you chose not to be. You need to repent. I already stated valid points of critic you are just talking jibberish.
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>>546127286
>sorry excuse of an organization
the one that put together all the text into your favorite little book and preserved it through the centuries and handed it to you so that you could go and claim its yours, orthie?
There are no gods as in supernatural powerful beings, there are forces of nature and the men's mind. Even the greeks understood this.
The problem is youre taking everything literally, cause you believe there has to be something controlling every single aspect of creation otherwise your brain goes mush.
Gods just represented ideals, something to inspire. Its fucking folklore it just stories than come naturally when a certain people gather in a place and form civilization.
The facts are your religion sits on the foundations of these thinkers and try to claim as your own. Pythagoras or Aristotle didnt need any of your shit, thats proof enough of older not necessarily being wrong or incorrect.
They had figured the earth revolves around the sun before you said its flat and the sun is the one revolving.
I mean what else you need? are you really this dumb?
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>>546128067
yes yes, you need your cult and leash out at people that point it out as such I get it.
never consult the written Word and just go off by what others tell you to believe in and trust instead of God himself, I get it.
and now you tell me the Word of God is an idol I bow to when Jesus is referred to the Word becoming flesh by John himself.
face it, you need your Caesar and Nimrod for authority and not Jesus Christ in your life in faith alone.
this is the fruit orthodoxy and catholicism produces, a delusion of faith you can attend in your church services, not a full dedication to the Lord.
>Yeah man you knew jesus better than those who are the continuetion of the people who met him.
I know the nature of Jesus because I read and believe the words that were penned down by his personal disciples, not some distant men that wrote something down much much later.
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>>546128098
Delusion Catholic had nothing to do with the creation of the bible. The only retard revealing himself is you. Really reduction to intellect acomplishment is all you can comprehent? So you claim there is no God good then you have no ground for any objectivity. Nobody must accept your theory and as an bigger consequence no complicated technology can be achived because of no cooparation from others because you cant justifiy an objectivity. Everything you use to your advantage the internet the reality the gun is all an result of our God. You are just a kid releasing his trauma by saying nah i dont need no god yall but why then promote paganism? Yeah just so you can have a new stability to hang on to because you didnt have it as a child. All those Greek Philosopers wouldn't be alive without the beginning of Adam and Eve. What you used are not arguments. You are just avoiding to face the truth you degenerate.
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>>546128394
Your mind is a mess. You only reads what affirms your nonsense in your head. You use words yet have no understanding of their meaning that is pride. Time will show you of your falsehood or go further away from God. In the End the Choice is yours.
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>>546128772
I have posted nothing that is not scriptural my dude.
yet all you can do is leash out and throw empty accusation at me without even attempting to rebuke me with the written Word itself.
this is exactly the kind that orthodoxy produces, have witnessed it so many times by now.
repent and take the clear written Word that was given to us by God to heart and drop everything theological that does not apply with it. dont be lukewarm just to be spewed out in Jesus second coming.



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