Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfagging
>>546144450It should only be used against foids and niggers
Because of all the legal procedures, it's cheaper to keep them in prison for life
>>5461444501. where to draw the line on who gets it2. the falsely convicted who are later proven to be innocent
>>546144450It's extremely expensiveAnd sometimes you end up executing innocents, IDK if that's moralfagging but it's worth mentioning
We could be using them for experiments, as test dummies, and study
>>546144450because soneone can be wrongfully convicted and an innnocent person could be executed
>>546144554>Throwing someone in jail for 20 years, subjecting them to being brutalized, raped and dehumanized is not as bad as killing them.
I don't trust the government to do it right and to the correct person. It's that simple. No morality, just the government is retarded.
Or you could also use them for slave labor, deactivating mine fields, or dangerous tasks that others refuse to do
>>546144450It isnt.Certain people are not people and are therefore not suited to be among the loving.However, to absolutely minimize errors and bias youd need to remove all the judaic influence on the planet, otherwise you just get another ADL
>>546144450as someone who has been incarcerated before, i would rather be put to death than do life in prison.
>>546144450it's not
>>546144602For their families definitely yesAlso once exonerated you can in theory make it up for them as best you can which happens all the time. You can't do that if you already killed them
>>546144450>without moralfaggingYou'll just call anything moralfagging and declare victory. Fuck off.
>>546144654>Make up for it The government does not do such a fucking thing. They would rather you disappear so as not to remind them of their incompetence. Wrongful imprisonment lawsuits go noowhere because the government says they thought the person was guilty at the time.
>>546144450It's meaningless as a deterrent and does nothing to compensate the victims.
>>546144567It can be made a financial argument. Wrongful execution of innocents can lead to more proceedings and bigger payouts for the affected families as well as further degredation of trust in the system. At least if they're found innocent after 20 years they can get out, get a payout, and trust in the system mostly remains intact.
its not
>>546144772Nice try, moishe
>>546144768Even if no restitution is made it's still good that someone wrongly convicted won't necessarily face a permanent sentence
>>546144636>as someone who has been incarcerated before, i would rather be put to death than do life in prison.did you give up your cheeks
>>546144450if your really an american and not just another kike spamming AND you want your current government to have more power to kill people than through the police, your a subhuman that needs to be killed via electric chair. your giving an easily corrupted power the ability to murder you under questionable laws they dont have to follow - not a moralism, self preservation
>>546144590^ this andJudges are easy to corrupt.Juries are even easier to corrupt.Lawyer are even easier to corrupt.Police officers are even easier to corrupt.Politicians are corrupt.
>>546144854It is a permanent sentence. You don't survive 20 years in prison. Your job, your family, your entire life has moved on, and there's absolutely no reclaiming it.
>>546144554ThisSee:The West Memphis Three
>>546144450Is rather them rot in a box for decades Being euthanised is the easy way out.
>>546144979Don't get me wrong it definitely sucksEven just 1 year in prison can have lasting consequencesBut at least you're alive and free, that's better than being in prison. And even if you disagree then at least you have options
>>546144855that is highly exaggerated, there are fags in prison but prison rape happens way way less often than people think. ive never even heard of it in real life, just people fagging out
>>546144450The only death penalty i advocate for is .50 m2 bullet to the head at 10 yards distanceLiterally the most painless
>>546145111>that is highly exaggerated, there are fags in prison but prison rape happens way way less often than people think. ive never even heard of it in real life, just people fagging outi didnt ask if people get raped all the timeI asked if you gave up your cheeks
It's actually crazy to me how everyone here can get so up in arms over the Brand thing and then not apply it to why execution is bad.
>>546144450They're usually more valuable as slaves than dead.
>>546144450its not, now delete this thread
>>546144450Explain why Death is bad.
>>546144450Because if the government has the power to do something they will inevitably abuse and/or be incompetent in their use of said power. Making it insanely difficult for the death penalty to actually occur is the compromise achieved.
>>546145196Prison farms are a thing in the south, mostly in the deep south like Georgia or Louisiana. It is a literal plantation. But everyone is okay with the slaves there because they are murderers and rapists.
>>546144450Because we could have them participate in death games instead and stream it. It’s a waste of money.
In my Hell. Death penalty is a reward, it's not a punishment.
>>546144450Lock them in a small room with one meal a day, one hour of exercise a week shackled. No books or visits. Break them and make them suffer. And then they die in the end anyway.
>>546144450it permanently ends the possibility of horribly torturing them
>>54614454840k/year vs 100k to kill them
>>546144450It sets a bad example for human behavior, essentially. You can never proclaim to be above the executed prison when you're at best doing to him what he did to others. In a nutshell.Rather, expulsion from civilization is the most humane option. An island full of of fellow convicts in a free for all to survive is the most fitting punishment for irredeemable prisoners.Basically the plot of No Escape. The only real this scenario ends up being corrupted by bad people in power, who fraud charges against the condemned or use it as a tool to silence political prisoners.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110678/If done without any corruptable influence (really impossible with humans) then it's the most humane deterrent for the worst crimes.
>>546144450they'll claim that sometimes you execute the wrong people by accident and then you cannot undo it, but that's a retarded argument because you could still just execute the ones where there is zero doubt because you caught them in the act
>>546144450It's too quick and painless and, as we saw earlier this year, methods are not guaranteed. If anything we need the super death penalty.
>>546145685>100k to kill themabsolutely ridiculous really when hanging or beheading them would cost you next to nothing
>>546144450The only actual argument against it is the consequence of the legal system getting karte blanche to kill potentially wrongly convicted individuals.What possible moral fag argument is there against it?
>>546144450I love family guy it’s such a good show It’s very funny when Peter grabs his daughters face and shoves it into his ass before farting on her
>>546146281>and, as we saw earlier this year, methods are not guaranteed.that's because you insist on this retarded ass poison cocktail injection.a bullet to the head costs you pennies and does the job just fine.
>>546146281You mean getting hung, drawn and quartered?
>>546144450It’s done by the government and the government is bad while breaking the law on your own is cool and basedYou dysgenic mutts never understood this and you never will you jewloving faggots
>>5461444501. It gives too much power to the already corrupt as fuck courts. Judges already can't be prosecuted for doing shit they're not supposed to do.2. Even if you're innocent, you can be unfairly judged by a corrupt court. If you find evidence that proves your innocence later, they can choose to find you guilty anyway...and in hellholes like Oklahoma they can resentence you with an even harsher sentence such as the death penalty as a sick form of retaliation for daring to stand up for truth and justice. Yeah...it's fucking sick.Courts are crooked as fuck. Just like cops.
>>546144450Because we do not have mind reading technology to 100% accurately determine guilt in 100% of cases, and therefore risk executing an innocent person.There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with executing someone who is actually guilty of a heinous crime tho.
Death penalty punish the fighters, and rewaed the weak cunts of society. We should reward those with higher kill streak if anything.
>>546144450>>Only thing I can really think of is irreversibility.
>>546146395this, unironically
it isn't bad, it's an act of mercy.
>>546144450The only reason you need to be against the death penalty is that the State is always incompetent and flawed and should not be given the ultimate penalty.
>>546146946I'm against death penalty, but I'm all for death dueling law. The strong should be reward, not punish, and the weak can just die in a trial by combat.
>>546146997Rich people will hire strong people to kill other strong people. Every system can be corrupted. That's why the death penalty is so bad. The worst elements in the world will always rise to power and they shouldn't have that ultimate penalty.
>>546147394>The worst elementsWhat is this worst elements you talk about? The strong rules, and the weak obey. That's the best, and most natural way to rule.
>>546144450ill leave that to other anonsbut i will tell you why it shouldnt be entirely painless>if youre willing to kys>you aint got nothing left to lose
>>546144450Free labor and huge margins from it that boost economies>noooooo no the heckin rapists and mass murderers being force to work for pennies it's slaveryYes, slavery was the norm throughout most of human civilization as we know it. Empires and city states would have never developed without slave labor from the conquered or defeated. Some of the earliest written human words found all depict some form of reference to forced labor or slaves, it's just part of our dna. The future of owning nothing is just a modernized version of it.
>>546144554>where to draw the line on who getsAny free act of violence against someone elseSuckerpunch a guy in the street ? DeathKnife someone to get their phone ? DeathPut on fire a building ? Death
>>546144450killing anyone because of man-made laws is retarded when all the world religions lawmakers profess to believe in teach to forgive and come to reconciliationfor anyone to desire harm on anyone is disgustingare you a worshipper of man-made government or God?
>>546144450Depends on the execution method, most are to fast and painless for my taste.
>>546147495The strong aka the rich have been abusing their power for too long. pic rel is natural? She'd have you killed and never give you a second thought.
>>546144602duh
>>546144450Because it can be an innocent person. You're putting too much faith in Jewish lawyers
>>546144636UnusualMost death penalty prisoners use up all their legal options and delaying the death penalty as much as possible
GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING WATER
>>546147870>The strong aka the richLol. What is strong about the rich? No amount of money in the world can ever allow them to kill me.
>>546146310this. even a firing squad with .22 rounds would only cost about $5, assuming the squad us comprised of gun owners with a zeroed .22a lot of us would have no issue knowing our gun took down a criminal
>>5461445541. line?2. oops
>>546144548Thats stupid, bullets are under a dollar per round but it costs taxpayers more to babysit rapists and murderers for life
>bad without moralfaggingDefine bad without moralfagging
>>546145685>40k/yearcan be reduced to 5k/year, easily>100k to kill themcan be arranged for 500 bucks
>>546148215You're very very wrong.
>>546148456I am very very right.
>>546148315>>546148430you're working too hard still kek. a 9mm rd here is like $.40, that's the lowest I can bring your cost
>>546148519no namefag, you're not safe.
>>546148954Safety is for the weak anyway.
>>546144450the justice system is imperfect and renders a judgement on the basis of 6-12 barely sentient retards being selectively (per the judge) fed information.
>>546144450Costs money when all you need to do is take them outback and put a bullet into their heads. One bullet is barely even 25 cents.
>>546147750The same God that allowed Jews to live on this world? Fuck him and fuck you I hope a nigger accosts your entire family.
>>546144450>Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfaggingBecause there's always a chance of a false conviction.
>>546146398>YouWho are you talking to, retard? I'm not the warden.
>>546144450Explain why anything is bad without moralfagging. Muh societal good still counts as moralfagging.
>>546144548>>546144567just hang them the same day as the trial like in 1926
>>546144450There is no reason except moral to kill someone, so it will be hard to not fight on this ground
>>546144548>Because of all the legal proceduresSo we let murderers live because of our own retarded choice to relitigate the case constantly?Fuck you. Jewish lawyers want to profit off of people's deaths.
>>546144450>Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfaggingWe might kill an innocent person by mistake. That's pretty much it, actually. Everyone is fine in executing the criminals, though.
>>546149660I'm not. I prefer for them to rot in prison instead of a fast track to final freedom
Imagine crowd funded executions, top donor gets to decide how he dies
>>546144602That's entirely different issue which is solvable. What if privately owned prisons were paid based on rehabilition rate? When it comes to death penalty, I think there are plenty of people who deserve to die but I don't trust the government and justice system enough that they should wield power to end someones life.
>>546149501you as in you as a nationsurely you're capable of comprehending your own language
>>546144450death penalty is bad because they could make them work and generate taxes instead
>>546149538explain why being gay with your own dad is wrong without moralfagging
>>546149695Holy fuck that'd be amazing
>>546149741but muh slavery
>>546149695It's called "red rooms" and already exists ..
