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Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfagging
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>>546144450
It should only be used against foids and niggers
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Because of all the legal procedures, it's cheaper to keep them in prison for life
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>>546144450
1. where to draw the line on who gets it
2. the falsely convicted who are later proven to be innocent
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>>546144450
It's extremely expensive
And sometimes you end up executing innocents, IDK if that's moralfagging but it's worth mentioning
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We could be using them for experiments, as test dummies, and study
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>>546144450
because soneone can be wrongfully convicted and an innnocent person could be executed
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>>546144554
>Throwing someone in jail for 20 years, subjecting them to being brutalized, raped and dehumanized is not as bad as killing them.
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I don't trust the government to do it right and to the correct person. It's that simple. No morality, just the government is retarded.
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Or you could also use them for slave labor, deactivating mine fields, or dangerous tasks that others refuse to do
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>>546144450
It isnt.
Certain people are not people and are therefore not suited to be among the loving.
However, to absolutely minimize errors and bias youd need to remove all the judaic influence on the planet, otherwise you just get another ADL
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>>546144450
as someone who has been incarcerated before, i would rather be put to death than do life in prison.
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>>546144450
it's not
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>>546144602
For their families definitely yes
Also once exonerated you can in theory make it up for them as best you can which happens all the time. You can't do that if you already killed them
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>>546144450
>without moralfagging

You'll just call anything moralfagging and declare victory. Fuck off.
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>>546144654
>Make up for it
The government does not do such a fucking thing. They would rather you disappear so as not to remind them of their incompetence. Wrongful imprisonment lawsuits go noowhere because the government says they thought the person was guilty at the time.
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>>546144450
It's meaningless as a deterrent and does nothing to compensate the victims.
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>>546144567
It can be made a financial argument. Wrongful execution of innocents can lead to more proceedings and bigger payouts for the affected families as well as further degredation of trust in the system. At least if they're found innocent after 20 years they can get out, get a payout, and trust in the system mostly remains intact.
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its not
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>>546144772
Nice try, moishe
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>>546144768
Even if no restitution is made it's still good that someone wrongly convicted won't necessarily face a permanent sentence
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>>546144636
>as someone who has been incarcerated before, i would rather be put to death than do life in prison.

did you give up your cheeks
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>>546144450
if your really an american and not just another kike spamming AND you want your current government to have more power to kill people than through the police, your a subhuman that needs to be killed via electric chair. your giving an easily corrupted power the ability to murder you under questionable laws they dont have to follow - not a moralism, self preservation
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>>546144590
^ this and
Judges are easy to corrupt.
Juries are even easier to corrupt.
Lawyer are even easier to corrupt.
Police officers are even easier to corrupt.
Politicians are corrupt.
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>>546144854
It is a permanent sentence. You don't survive 20 years in prison. Your job, your family, your entire life has moved on, and there's absolutely no reclaiming it.
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>>546144554
This
See:
The West Memphis Three
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>>546144450
Is rather them rot in a box for decades
Being euthanised is the easy way out.
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>>546144979
Don't get me wrong it definitely sucks
Even just 1 year in prison can have lasting consequences
But at least you're alive and free, that's better than being in prison. And even if you disagree then at least you have options
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>>546144855
that is highly exaggerated, there are fags in prison but prison rape happens way way less often than people think. ive never even heard of it in real life, just people fagging out
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>>546144450
The only death penalty i advocate for is .50 m2 bullet to the head at 10 yards distance
Literally the most painless
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>>546145111
>that is highly exaggerated, there are fags in prison but prison rape happens way way less often than people think. ive never even heard of it in real life, just people fagging out
i didnt ask if people get raped all the time
I asked if you gave up your cheeks
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It's actually crazy to me how everyone here can get so up in arms over the Brand thing and then not apply it to why execution is bad.
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>>546144450
They're usually more valuable as slaves than dead.
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>>546144450
its not, now delete this thread
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>>546144450
Explain why Death is bad.
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>>546144450
Because if the government has the power to do something they will inevitably abuse and/or be incompetent in their use of said power. Making it insanely difficult for the death penalty to actually occur is the compromise achieved.
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>>546145196
Prison farms are a thing in the south, mostly in the deep south like Georgia or Louisiana. It is a literal plantation. But everyone is okay with the slaves there because they are murderers and rapists.
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>>546144450
Because we could have them participate in death games instead and stream it. It’s a waste of money.
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In my Hell. Death penalty is a reward, it's not a punishment.
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>>546144450
Lock them in a small room with one meal a day, one hour of exercise a week shackled. No books or visits. Break them and make them suffer. And then they die in the end anyway.
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>>546144450
it permanently ends the possibility of horribly torturing them
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>>546144548
40k/year vs 100k to kill them
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>>546144450
It sets a bad example for human behavior, essentially. You can never proclaim to be above the executed prison when you're at best doing to him what he did to others. In a nutshell.

Rather, expulsion from civilization is the most humane option. An island full of of fellow convicts in a free for all to survive is the most fitting punishment for irredeemable prisoners.

Basically the plot of No Escape. The only real this scenario ends up being corrupted by bad people in power, who fraud charges against the condemned or use it as a tool to silence political prisoners.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110678/

If done without any corruptable influence (really impossible with humans) then it's the most humane deterrent for the worst crimes.
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>>546144450
they'll claim that sometimes you execute the wrong people by accident and then you cannot undo it, but that's a retarded argument because you could still just execute the ones where there is zero doubt because you caught them in the act
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>>546144450
It's too quick and painless and, as we saw earlier this year, methods are not guaranteed. If anything we need the super death penalty.
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>>546145685
>100k to kill them
absolutely ridiculous really when hanging or beheading them would cost you next to nothing
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>>546144450
The only actual argument against it is the consequence of the legal system getting karte blanche to kill potentially wrongly convicted individuals.
What possible moral fag argument is there against it?
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>>546144450
I love family guy it’s such a good show
It’s very funny when Peter grabs his daughters face and shoves it into his ass before farting on her
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>>546146281
>and, as we saw earlier this year, methods are not guaranteed.
that's because you insist on this retarded ass poison cocktail injection.
a bullet to the head costs you pennies and does the job just fine.
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>>546146281
You mean getting hung, drawn and quartered?
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>>546144450
It’s done by the government and the government is bad while breaking the law on your own is cool and based
You dysgenic mutts never understood this and you never will you jewloving faggots
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>>546144450
1. It gives too much power to the already corrupt as fuck courts. Judges already can't be prosecuted for doing shit they're not supposed to do.
2. Even if you're innocent, you can be unfairly judged by a corrupt court. If you find evidence that proves your innocence later, they can choose to find you guilty anyway...and in hellholes like Oklahoma they can resentence you with an even harsher sentence such as the death penalty as a sick form of retaliation for daring to stand up for truth and justice. Yeah...it's fucking sick.
Courts are crooked as fuck. Just like cops.
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>>546144450
Because we do not have mind reading technology to 100% accurately determine guilt in 100% of cases, and therefore risk executing an innocent person.

There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with executing someone who is actually guilty of a heinous crime tho.
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Death penalty punish the fighters, and rewaed the weak cunts of society. We should reward those with higher kill streak if anything.
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>>546144450
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Only thing I can really think of is irreversibility.
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>>546146395
this, unironically
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it isn't bad, it's an act of mercy.
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>>546144450
The only reason you need to be against the death penalty is that the State is always incompetent and flawed and should not be given the ultimate penalty.
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>>546146946
I'm against death penalty, but I'm all for death dueling law. The strong should be reward, not punish, and the weak can just die in a trial by combat.
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>>546146997
Rich people will hire strong people to kill other strong people. Every system can be corrupted. That's why the death penalty is so bad. The worst elements in the world will always rise to power and they shouldn't have that ultimate penalty.
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>>546147394
>The worst elements
What is this worst elements you talk about? The strong rules, and the weak obey. That's the best, and most natural way to rule.
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>>546144450
ill leave that to other anons

but i will tell you why it shouldnt be entirely painless
>if youre willing to kys
>you aint got nothing left to lose
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>>546144450
Free labor and huge margins from it that boost economies
>noooooo no the heckin rapists and mass murderers being force to work for pennies it's slavery
Yes, slavery was the norm throughout most of human civilization as we know it. Empires and city states would have never developed without slave labor from the conquered or defeated. Some of the earliest written human words found all depict some form of reference to forced labor or slaves, it's just part of our dna. The future of owning nothing is just a modernized version of it.
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>>546144554
>where to draw the line on who gets
Any free act of violence against someone else
Suckerpunch a guy in the street ? Death
Knife someone to get their phone ? Death
Put on fire a building ? Death
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>>546144450
killing anyone because of man-made laws is retarded when all the world religions lawmakers profess to believe in teach to forgive and come to reconciliation
for anyone to desire harm on anyone is disgusting
are you a worshipper of man-made government or God?
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>>546144450
Depends on the execution method, most are to fast and painless for my taste.
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>>546147495
The strong aka the rich have been abusing their power for too long. pic rel is natural? She'd have you killed and never give you a second thought.
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>>546144602
duh
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>>546144450
Because it can be an innocent person. You're putting too much faith in Jewish lawyers
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>>546144636
Unusual
Most death penalty prisoners use up all their legal options and delaying the death penalty as much as possible
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GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING WATER
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>>546147870
>The strong aka the rich
Lol. What is strong about the rich? No amount of money in the world can ever allow them to kill me.
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>>546146310
this. even a firing squad with .22 rounds would only cost about $5, assuming the squad us comprised of gun owners with a zeroed .22
a lot of us would have no issue knowing our gun took down a criminal
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>>546144554
1. line?
2. oops
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>>546144548
Thats stupid, bullets are under a dollar per round but it costs taxpayers more to babysit rapists and murderers for life
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>bad without moralfagging
Define bad without moralfagging
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>>546145685
>40k/year
can be reduced to 5k/year, easily
>100k to kill them
can be arranged for 500 bucks
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>>546148215
You're very very wrong.
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>>546148456
I am very very right.
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>>546148315
>>546148430
you're working too hard still kek. a 9mm rd here is like $.40, that's the lowest I can bring your cost
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>>546148519
no namefag, you're not safe.
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>>546148954
Safety is for the weak anyway.
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>>546144450
the justice system is imperfect and renders a judgement on the basis of 6-12 barely sentient retards being selectively (per the judge) fed information.
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>>546144450
Costs money when all you need to do is take them outback and put a bullet into their heads. One bullet is barely even 25 cents.
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>>546147750
The same God that allowed Jews to live on this world? Fuck him and fuck you I hope a nigger accosts your entire family.
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>>546144450
>Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfagging
Because there's always a chance of a false conviction.
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>>546146398
>You
Who are you talking to, retard? I'm not the warden.
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>>546144450
Explain why anything is bad without moralfagging. Muh societal good still counts as moralfagging.
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>>546144548
>>546144567
just hang them the same day as the trial like in 1926
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>>546144450
There is no reason except moral to kill someone, so it will be hard to not fight on this ground
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>>546144548
>Because of all the legal procedures

So we let murderers live because of our own retarded choice to relitigate the case constantly?

Fuck you. Jewish lawyers want to profit off of people's deaths.
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>>546144450
>Explain why the death penalty is bad without moralfagging
We might kill an innocent person by mistake. That's pretty much it, actually. Everyone is fine in executing the criminals, though.
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>>546149660
I'm not. I prefer for them to rot in prison instead of a fast track to final freedom
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Imagine crowd funded executions, top donor gets to decide how he dies
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>>546144602
That's entirely different issue which is solvable. What if privately owned prisons were paid based on rehabilition rate?
When it comes to death penalty, I think there are plenty of people who deserve to die but I don't trust the government and justice system enough that they should wield power to end someones life.
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>>546149501
you as in you as a nation
surely you're capable of comprehending your own language
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>>546144450
death penalty is bad because they could make them work and generate taxes instead
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>>546149538
explain why being gay with your own dad is wrong without moralfagging
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>>546149695
Holy fuck that'd be amazing
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>>546149741
but muh slavery
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>>546149695
It's called "red rooms" and already exists ..



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