How busses work? The reason why they're slower than driving for the same start and destination is because they have to cover a wider area to collect passengers first as opposed to just taking a direct route. It's really that shrimple.This is just more proof that public transit advocates don't even take public transit.
>>546168606this has got to be fake7 minutes by car in a city speed limit zone is about 4 burger "miles"which does work out to about an hour's walk plus a bit jesus fucking christ what is wrong with America
>>546168834I'm guessing the destination is across a highway with no crossing nearby.
>>546168834Maybe it's a seven minute drive down the highway?
>>546168834>7 minutes by car in a city speed limit zone is about 4 burger "miles">which does work out to about an hour's walk plus a bitSo what's your objection, exactly?
>>546168834How do you know its a city speed limit zone? It's probably in the middle of the country side.
>>546169001Hes a communist who hates cars. Ironically in poland which has roads similar to america.
>>546168834bro I am 40 and I could run a 5 min mile since 7th grade. clean my fucking toilets.
>>546169001>So what's your objection, exactly?that public transit would take as long as walking, you idiot only in Americaokay, maybe also in India and Siberia
>>546168834What the other two said. There may also be a long stop or two at a major station. Some of them stay stopped for like a half hour at train stations.
>>546169089>clean my fucking toilets.why does a jeet need a toilet, just shit outside as is your tradition
>>546168606I used to have to take the city bus home from school when I was a kid, because the regular schoolbusses didn't go out to where I lived.I'd have to wait about an hour after school let out then hop on the city bus, ride it to the station (45+ minutes) then wait for the connecting bus to arrive, (another 20-30 minutes) then ride that one another half an hour before it let me off 2 miles from my house.Absolute hell in the midwest winters where the sun sets at 4:30, it'd be pitch-black before I got home. On the plus side the all-access bus pass for students back then was only $20 a month so at least it wasn't expensive.
>>546168606how's this possible when america has very low speed limits?
>>546169020>How do you know its a city speed limit zone?because outside a speed limit zone it wouldn't take 7 minutes by car and 1:14 hours walking, retard
>>546168834Our roads were built where they needed to be. Old world roads are built over narrow footpaths. It's just an efficiency thing.
>>546168606Hey I found one in the yookay
>>546169139Yeah okay, untermensch. I really care what a toilet scrubber has to say. back talk me again and I'll get the guards. you wanna go back to Auschwitz?
>>546169072So why's he satint it must be fake if the numbers work out?>>546169111The obvious answer is the bus route goes the wrong way. Slight power level: I lived in an area kinda like this where there was a stretch of road that connected two sister cities that had different transit jurisdictions so the bus wouldn't go up that road. If you took the bus, you'd end up at the transfer station and have to take a second bus to the top of that road. Or you could walk up the road for like an hour.
>>546169352lol
>>546168834Anything West to East in the greater Seattle area is like this.
>>546168834Humans walk at about 2 miles per hour so that checks out. The train is probably longer because of the route it takes to stop at other stations.
>>546169233Assuming an average speed of 30mph. You're confusing average speed with speed limit you retard.
>>546168606Where's the surprise?Bus includes walk to the stop (5-10 minutes) wait for bus (0-15 min) bus detour, stopping every few blocks (30-60% slower) then walk from bus stop to final destination (5-10 min)A 20 minute car trip can easily be 40-50 minute bus stop. That's standard. The illusion of efficiency is gone once you account for all factors.
>>546169111Again with all the factors that you keep ignoring. Assume here the bus runs on the hour, and one just left. Google factors in the time you have to wait for the bus as part of the overall transit journey, you fucking moron.
>>54616883460 mph is "normal" limit on high-way in US though everyone is actually driving 70 mph without very high traffic. 7 minutes in 60mph is around 11 km. So maybe google assumes smaller speed.Walking speed is what, 5 km / h ? Maybe 7 km/h if you go really, really fast? Btw, americans love wasting space. They actually walk quite fast since even in malls or offices they have far greater distances than in Europe. Btw, this is probably also why USA corporate culture is so fucking shitty, in office in Poland I just go to my colleague and chat and do stuff in 1 minute, there it's whole 15 minute walk. No wonder people are silo'd in their own cubicules and need paper / order for everything, especially when they are controlled with a clock to the 6 minute increment. Everybody bails out to parking lot ASAP since a walk to the car can be 0.5 km one way.
>>5461690011. A journey that is 75min on foot, is 4 miles.2. If it takes a car 7 mins to traverse a measly 4miles, then the speed limit is around 30mph, and hence it's an urban or suburban area. Not a rural/remote area.3. It is outrageous that an urban or suburban area has such poor public transport during normal hours.
>>546168606I'm guessing the bus route is very unintuitive, and or there are few buses running the route.Even my gentrified home town has this issue. There's like 3 busses that run throughout the day and you have to wait like an hour between them.
>>546168606the United States is basically a giant, open-air mall for billionaire elites. it makes more sense when you think of it that way.
>>546169873See >>546169375
>>546169873>If it takes a car 7 mins to traverse a measly 4miles, then the speed limit is around 30mph, and hence it's an urban or suburban area. Not a rural/remote area.Its not speed limit, it's average speed. In a city its 14 - 20mph because of all the stops it has to make.
>>546169111>Bus goes 4 miles through dense urban area next to 70mph arterial highway, making stop every ~4 blocks >Wtf why is it Taking so long???? It only had to make 16 stops??????!? A car got there in minutes for some inexplicable reason! >In poland that 5 minute car ride only takes 40 minutes by bus not an hour! Look what you 2 could do by investing in bus lanes and buses instead of... Car is faster and would be in poland too, even with bugcentric city planning.
>>546168606A house that is walkable to downtown is walkable to hoards of niggers. Please think about the implications. They are so much worse than you think if you never lived near a black majority area. My god, houses next to Marta stops get robbed every fucking week in Atlanta. Homeowners were blocking construction of the north west expansion but they were losing the battle so I sold and left. $400k back then. The neighborhood I left was nice and clean and safe. You could leave your door unlocked in 2014. But today it is a trash covered crime ridden hellhole, valued 1/3 what I sold at and with robberies and shootings as often as the rest of their shity city. The only change was expanding the Marta and putting niggers within walking distance. It is almost like everything the racists say is true and you fuckers should take notes. Bragging about walkable cities while still mass importing them means you’re in danger. You might notice white flight areas are skyrocketing in value. I paid over a million more for a house but I still didn’t move to Europe. Why is that? You’re just ignorant of what you’re doing. But you will find out I am telling the truth.
I live very close to a high-speed rail line in SLC. Maybe twelve minutes, walking distance. I take it one stop south, catch a city railcar and ride that for three stops, then catch a bus. The bus drops me off 40 minutes walking from my job. Now when I get off work, I arrive at the same bus stop going in the opposite direction, and because of the timing, I must wait an additional 50+ minutes for it to come around. So my morning commute to work is 2 hours, and my commute back is 2.5 hours or more. This place is hell on a mf trying to get from A to B.
>>546170578Here's one mistake that everyone in this thread is making while doing the math: Conflating Average speed with Speed limit.Lets say that my walk to work is 25 mins, its 1.25 miles, and the drive would take me 5 mins. That works out to an average of 15mph for the drive, even if the speed limit on all roads is 30.Everyone here has figured out the average speed of the drive is 30mph, but incorrectly assuming that is the speed limit.
>>546171008I'm not sure that distinction even matters that much for these people's argument because they also keep asserting that 30mph speed limit necessarily means an urban or suburban environment.America is dotted with smallish towns that are still sufficiently dense to warrant the slower speed limit without being populous enough to warrant a robust transit system. Tons of little towns were established during the California Gold Rush that now pretty much exist for their lumber industry. And everyone lives on or near the main roads that feed it.So even ignoring the obvious "average != limit" argument, these people are still fucking retarded.
>>546171390I don't think they're retarded. Their maths is correct. What they incorrectly did was assume that average speed = speed limit.The people on the reddit post I found this on were even more retarded.
THERE'S NO BUS STOP YOU DUMB NIGGERSWhy the fuck are you autistic retards sperging out about traffic speed when the obvious issue is that you need to WALK to the nearest bus stop, which is factored in the travel time?
>what are routes/shortcuts
>>546171575And wait for the bus. In this case it probably just left and you have to wait an hour for the next one.
>>546171503Yeah, ofc I'm being hyperbolic. But the point is they're just hyper-focusing on one aspect and ignoring all others. >average speed vs. speed limit >how is the neighborhood put together? >what direction does the bus go?>where are the bus stops?>are you even riding the same bus for the whole trip?
>>546171755no, because google just tells you the travel time, not how long from now it takes to get thereeg if the next bus leaves in 15 minutes but it takes you five to get there, it tells you to leave in 10 and counts the 5 minutes into the travel time
>>546168606Isn't the middle one a train?
>>546168606It is literally only fat retards who use the bus.>t. Walked everywhere.
>>546171755eg like this
>>546168606That was my daily uni commute highway is next to my house so I can just take that and be there in 5min by car. Taking the bus takes forever because I have to cross half the city and hope the train/bus is on time (it never is). Was 9km.
>>546171767Ok so based on my experience as someone who drives and takes the bus sometimes I can safely assume that large portion of the journey will be at 50mph on a national road. It's likely a rural area like in my example here >>546169320 so the bus probably goes in one direction for majority of the journey, this example it runs on the hour.There's only a few bus stops along the way due to low population density and yes, given the distance it would be the same bus for the whole trip.
>>546168606Thats a tram not a bus
>>546172152>>546172287This is a bus, see how the wheels arent tilted lmfao retards, im surrounddd by retards.
>>546172383nigger, it's the public transportation icon, it sorts buses, trains etc underneath, are you retarded?it literally shows you the bus time
>>546168606>Valerio Sopa de macaco>my european mind
top: from my house to the citybottom: my house to St Pancras in Londonshit just works
>>546168606if you're not using a car you're not in a hurry
>>546172257So this is the place I was talking about in this post: >>546169375(I don't live there anymore so no biggie if you dox).They changed the bus route significantly since I left. But still it's literally faster to ride the bus part way and then walk for a half hour than it is to take the whole route purely as a quirk of how these routes work together.
>>546168834American teens can be pretty crazy when out and aboot the town with the boys. Real pranksters
>>546172926Yeah london is a nightmare to drive in. Its best to just park up somewhere and take the tube.
>>546173174Funnily enough riding a bike is faster than public transport in a town or city.
