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If it's not ham radio you're not doing it properly. And if you don't know Morse code, learn it asap. It's the most basic, and most efficient, of the non-high-tech radio modes.

Even if you don't want to learn about ham radio getting a shortwave receiver should be on your list of things to do soon. It should tune the whole HF spectrum and receive AM and SSB at a minimum. Synchronous AM detection is a great upgrade but most radios don't have it, sadly. Plenty of cheap used options out there, cheap new ones too (cheap as in flimsy).
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>>546194417
i am going to kill you kaho and all your sisters
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Internet SDR is fun but can't be relied upon obviously, when it counts. And SDRs in general while fun, generally need a computer to function and that means your effective battery life is measured in hours rather than weeks or months even for an analog radio.

Most SDRs have ass performance too, easily overwhelmed by close-in and more powerful signals even such as your computer emits, and need to be paired with extensive filtering and careful circuit layout but they typically are NOT. I can't recommend them for emergency use in any capacity. Except the Elecraft KX3. It's more like a military radio though and barely sips power.
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>>546194496
This.
>>546194417
And I have 6 Baofengs that I use to troll boomer ham operators (I am unlicensed and uncircumcised).
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>leafs already getting agitated
Good... good. That's good that they noticed.
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Mouth to ear transmission.
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>>546194417
amateur extra, got dipoles up in backyard snow

mobile pack for qrp just for fun
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>>546194761
I recommend making a mag loop. It's cheap but you need a few components. But you can make it as big as you like and it's directional. I made one and mounted it on a piece of sturdy plasticised cardboard, it works great for QRP and you can null out local QRM and home in on some good signals too. I keep it in the trunk of my car along with the 818.
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>>546194417
Meshtastic fucker
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I'm pretty much not going to be talking to anyone except family, in person, if there's a major communications system breakdown. I've disabled my radio's tx function so I don't accidentally key up. Y'all are gonna get found out from your radios. Let's be real. You aren't going to be coordinating multiple element direct action raids with a handful of baofengs. You're gonna get found out. The professional people that are capable of doing complicated operations with multiple live elements communicating via radio are going to outperform, and they aren't going to post about their communications SOPs on 4chan, they are going to keep that stuff as secret as they can, and for very good reason.
fucking glownigs.
don't be telling anyone shit in this thread.
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Radios are useful but only in a civil emergency not in a civil war scenario. There's a major difference.
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>>546195319
Downsides:
>limited range
>channels overwhelmed with more than a hundred or so participants

Upsides:
>simple use
>wide variety of computer clients
>secure against casual attackers
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Nice try glownigger. If they found Shia’s flag, it doesn’t take a computer science major to know they’ll triangulate the radio waves. I prayed to Jesus and he killed all my nanobots too btw, good luck
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>>546194417
Candy Cane
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>>546195402
There's not going to be a civil war. What will instead happen is a single, galvanizing event which will bring the public together like never before or not since 911 at least. They've been hinting at this. It always winds up happening just so anyway.
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>>546194417
Op is a chatty girl, omg how will I talk to my bff
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>>546195514
Even if you're just receiving, ham radios typically offer the best performance especially per dollar. Most of the new ham radios vastly outperform standard military grade receivers at this point, since the 2000's there's been a ham radio tech arms race and this helps the consumer of such gear a lot.
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You can aim your radio waves up and they will bounce down. Skywave they call it. So you can have shorter range HF communications that can't really be triangulated except from space. Only works for a few hundred miles radius, maybe a couple thousand if the heavens are aligned properly.

Inexperienced people don't know the joy of sending out a CQ and hearing your own morse come back to you a little bit later, maybe even more than once. The ionosphere is like an instrument, the giant body of a huge piano. You just have to know which strings to pluck with your radio.
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>>546194417
>Even if you don't want to learn about ham radio getting a shortwave receiver should be on your list of things to do soon
watch this video on how to pick a shortwave radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-f24GSWZQA
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>>546195512
Nothing will unite us now. That's a fact.
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BTW the official /pol/ frequency is 14.313.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGwwIJ6sQao&list=PLyA4oY8yjt3leBxJaTNtDX0zuHbAzDDEw

It makes /pol/ look tame and has been going on since the late 1980s.
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>>546196061
No. I have nothing to learn from a video. I can, instead, use my vast knowledge to recommend one for any price, or at least say if it's worth getting or not. But fuck videos.
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>>546196138
thats nice

but some people dont have vast knowledge and need a starting point
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My backup for communication is carrier pigeon
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>>546194417
talking
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>>546195402
This is exactly why I have baofengs. The national guard etc will be necessary to be able to communicate with if shit gets absolutely fucked by nukes or a cyber attack.
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>>546196419
realistically talking to strangers could only be negative
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>>546194417
Smoke signals
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>>546194417
What information can be trusted on a ham radio that can't also be faked?
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I have little strategic signal fires ready to go.
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>>546196805
boomers are addicted to news heroin
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>>546194417
Bump.

We need to start setting up back up communications systems and local networks tuned into it.
Mega Bump, gonna bump this thread all night periodically to keep it going.

TLDR: OP not gay for once
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>>546194417
My middle finger
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>>546196948
LIGHT THE BEACONS
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>>546194417
325wsm 220gr g7 0.4 at 2900fps
>>546194593
Xiegu g90.
1/4 the price and zero discernable difference to 90% of users.
And an auto tuner, which will be pretty fucking important for that 90% I was talking about.
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>>546195462
Just learned about NVIS.
Pretty ingenious really.
And honestly, most of your work on a radio should be listening, because every other source of information just turned off.
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>>546195512
After covid, nothing is going to unite us.
The social contract is broken.
The only thing people will agree on is Fuck them and Fuck you.
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>>546194417
> backup communications solution
I don't communicate so I don't need a backup.
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>Xiegu g90.
POS. Elecraft is a top notch company with the best customer service possibly in human history. Xiegu? How do you even say that? Do they speak English there?
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>>546194417
How do you communicate to people with morse code if they don't know it?
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>>546194417
>What's your backup communications solution?
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>>546194417
>>546194593
>>546197437
Even the cheap ass solar panels on alibaba put out enough power to provide for a ham radio.
Learn to prep losers.
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>>546197875
Hey, retard, we're talking about the end of the world. You're not getting customer service.
The question is, will you need customer service.
It's obvious you haven't used either.
Get a g90 and then we can talk.
Literally the best bang for your buck.
If you're dead at on the form factor, get a 6200. More, for less. No customer service required, and great online resources for the Mars mod you'll absolutely want to be doing for shtf scenarios.
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>>546198020
Oh look, strawman.
Seriously, if you're dumb enough to be broadcasting on open air in a shtf scenario, you deserve me an a couple of my 'friends' finding you and taking everything you planned so well with.
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>>546197996
Most radios have cw readers, so you'll be able to understand. Nice thing about the g90, it let's you practice your morse without transmitting. Can't do that on the over priced elecraft. Sure is a nice radio, just not as nice as the radio you can afford, instead of the one you can't.
Tictoc, cunts.
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>no customer service required
OR available. When I bought my KX3 the President and CEO, one of the co-designers of the rig itself, sent me an email thanking me and I asked a very technical question to which he responded right away. The radio includes all the test equipment you need to perform a complete alignment yourself onboard, and can use external reference oscillators for added precision in alignment which is easy and menu-based.

Your chink junk simply can't compete. I can get within 1ppm of WWV just with a quickie alignment I do here with nothing but the radio itself.
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>>546199191
Good for you.
I paid $400 Canadian pesos for my g90, and have made contacts right out of the box autotuned on cb at 20 watts on my homebrew center fed horizontal antenna 6000km away and been told it's a 5-9 by someone who was blown away with the quality.
How much was your elecraft?
And is the owner who sent you an email going to come help you when the internet goes down, which is the point of this thread?

Go sell your overpriced still made in China just assembled in America bullshit somewhere else.
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>>546194417
Remote viewing and telepathy.
Also HF with an end fed half wave antenna for CW
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>>546194417
I can smell real gud
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>>546194417
I can copy 5wpm. Is that good enough?
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>>546200645
seriously, is there not speech to morse code software that you can download on your phone by now?
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>>546200645
Sure. It can only improve from there.
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>>546194417
Just a BoofWang.
Still a noob with it but I got local weather and emergency channels programmed. Still learning the HAM stuff.
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I have looked into this

what is the point of a shortwave receiver without the ability to transmit?
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>>546200835
Receiving information
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>>546200835
You can still get news and information, even listen to hams with many sets. But you can't transmit. Better than having no information once the battery in your phone gives out (1-2 days tops) or the cell phone tower backup batteries give out (4-7 days absolute max).
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>>546200835
intel
but there's alot of frequencies
you don't need a tower for basic coms
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Just for instance, in the event the SHTF with nukes, you could estimate which places were hit by seeing if their VOLMET or whatever is still transmitting, this is a sort of beacon that aircraft can home in on. Excuse me if I'm not getting this right, I have very little interest in air band for just whatever lack of autism there. But that's one thing. Another would be for hearing about if there were battles, what to do, where to assemble to get aid, etc. That's in a serious emergency. But even in just a hurricane or giant river mudslide like China recently had and Nepal, radio is the only way to get and send information. Even if you have Starlink there's no power and it's power hungry.
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I can yell pretty loud
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>>546197028

/pol/ must organize IRL, we need to set up local meetups

The Faithful Remnant
16 Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name.
17 "On the day when I act," says the Lord Almighty, "they will be my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as a father has compassion and spares his son who serves him."
Malachi 3

>When misfortune has spent itself, better times return
>It furthers one to have somewhere to go
>The old is discarded and the new is introduced
>Societies of people sharing the same views are formed
I Ching chapters 23, 24
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my plan
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I will be joining Reviewbrah.
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>>546200918
>>546200919
>>546200930

do you recommend an actual shortwave radio or will a baofeng suffice? I have some baofengs already, but from what I've read they only work semi locally?
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we must organize

https://pol.foundation

see>>546201096

I gotta run for now, I will bookmark the thread, Godspeed anons
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>>546201174
I picked my shortwave radio based on some things he suggested when I emailed him asking for recommendations, and it's pretty good
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>>546201212
it's the atmosphere that's gonna limit you,
the more humid, the harder it is for the signal to travel, if you want range over 50 miles you'll need a tower
a radio like a baofeng should have only a few miles
this topic though is a whole long ass cluster fuck of it's own
skyking would be the thread
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Actually higher humidity can sometimes boost 2m, I've seen this before in corn country. Some kind of atmospheric ducting.
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>>546201544
well that would be humidity layering though right?
acting like plates and propagating signal.

but yeah, LOTS of stuff messes with signal, but generally if you're in a tropical jungle your radio sucks, if you're in the mountains in winter your radio kicks ass
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>>546201212
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TuumYIzDbQA
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is there any good resources for learning the bare basics of this shit?
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>>546194417
I was probably just gonna yell real loud
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>>546202221
ARRL Guide.
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>>546194417
Talking to trucker fags and lot lizards isn’t going to accomplish anything.
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>>546194417
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>>546194417
cba to get a ham radio loicense
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>>546194593
souka
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>>546195319
The people who designed mt are absolutely retarded, it doesn't scale at all
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>boogalarper shit
morse code is fucking useless you retard
and so is ham radio in its entirety, nobody cares about yapping boomers and its useless for anything other than trolling said boomers
the bandwidth of packet radio is in the BITS per second making it absolutely dog eggs for any serious use case like tcp/ip

its all a massive fucking joke
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>>546195319
Reflash with meshcore right now
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>>546194417
I don't have any backup communications solution. When the collapse occurs I'm going to die.
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loud whistles like the Fox 40 and a couple of bird calls. maybe some frs radios if I can find batteries for them.
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>>546194417
For local comms I suggest you get meshtastic/core going
Not that you'll actually need any of this because Nothing Ever Happens but because it's pretty fun to play around with just like ham radio
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Smoke signals and homing pigeons.
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>>546204725
> morse code is fucking useless you retard and so is ham radio in its entirety

Only genuine place Morse code lives on is in aviation: pilots have to be able decode morse to identify navagation aids such as VOR and NDB

Boomer Hams actually stuffed their hobby by insisting people could do Morse to get their tickets - it put a lot of younger people off Ham radio
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>>546194417
Every pigeon in a 50 km radius knows I'm a friend.
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>>546206855
the hobby was stuffed before boomers even insisted on anything, theyre not helping but kids dont like radio because its fucking boring and an entirely obsolete dead end
information technology has been solved, we have computers and the internet
any kid thats technologically inclined is going to either do software or tinker around with microelectronics instead

it says a lot about a "hobby" when the only fun you can have is to troll people who take it far too seriously
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>>546201212
Without a repeater which I wouldn't count on working in a natural disaster, a 5w handheld Bing bong vs a 100w station using CW isn't even comparable
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>>546194417
Carrier pigeons



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