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Say we get universal healthcare like so many of the other supposedly advanced countries have.
Who's going to pay for it?
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Who pays it in other countries?
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>>546203648
I will
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>>546203648
Someone besides you
That's all anyone needs to know
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Money is fake so nobody needs to pay for it
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>>546203648
Who is paying for universal healthcare for Israel right now?
>(You)
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Billionaires
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>>546203648
well just slap it onto the national debt like the other 15 trillion dollars trump dumped onto the national debt. thing is, universal healthcare will pay itself off, like it has in...every....other country that has done it.

now, ask yourself. what did the 15 trillion dollars trump put onto the national debt buy? where did the money go? what single thing, changed?

coulda paid for universal healthcare 30 times over
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You'd probably pay less for it than current employer provided healthcare
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>>546203675
Well, apparently, they pay much higher taxes that go towards that.
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>>546203648
Step 0) Repeal the individual income tax for those below the top 0.01% earners.
Step 1) Treasury absorbs the FED.
Step 2) Treasury is strictly forbidden from printing money out of thin air for any reason whatsoever, except:
-To issue to each citizen in equal apportioned amounts.
Step 3) Pass 80% corporate income tax on companies above $100MM market cap. Corporate income tax is on net income (after operating expenses, before dividends/buybacks/C-suite bonuses).

Now households get first spend on inflation Dollars when they are printed, and if you want to be a rich business owner you must cater to households and not banks or the government. Government cannot spend a cent that isn't taxed from corporations and ultra wealthy. Corporations must spend their profits on employee pay, employee bonuses, operating expenses, R&D, and expansion, or pay the profits to income taxes.

Overturning Dodge v. Ford should also be on the table.
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>>546203648
Im just going to start taking doctors and nurses as slaves then raid the nearby hospital everytime i want an mri or bloodwork.
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>>546204371
It's cheaper than private insurance and you can get it no matter what and even if you become unemployed or otherwise fur off. It is infinitely better. I guess the ideal is having both systems simultaneously.
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White men will pay for it with lower wages and longer hours.
White women will pay for it with higher taxes and higher prices.
But universal healthcare is already here. I am not paying a thing for my healthcare. Any unemployed nigga can make a 15 minute phone call and be put on medicaid.
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American taxpayers can pay for it just like they pay for Israels which is a foreign country in the middle east
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>>546203648
Jewlon husk
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the same people who pay for everything else
like what, only the top 10% of earners or something actually pay more in tax than they cost or some shit right
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>>546203648
God nigga
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>>546203648
OP will pay for healthcare

> tfw be business owner
> tfw in like 40k debt
> tfw free healthcare

you are paying for my healthcare for now
its ok one day when im out of debt ill repay the tax
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>>546203648
>Who's going to pay for it?
Shutdown the roads then, all infrastructure and government services paid by the tax payers must be cut or shutdown. Give billions to mega corporations or Israel. Government should be treated as business, therefor I shall fuck you the individual over in the name of stockholders and billionaires.
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>>546203648
You pay for it by reducing costs. Medical school is overpriced because these Marxist indoctrination centers spend spend money like it grows on trees. No doctor needs a 5 million dollar house and 3 exotic cars.
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>>546203648
yo mama
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>>546203648
Add it to the tab
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>>546203675
In Canada the free healthcare is propped up by $500+ per month MSP insurance payments and 12 hour waits to see some tattooed meth head intake worker.
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>>546203648
No one. Yall will die waiting for an appointment or die from the lower standards that come with free Healthcare. Just look at the VA Healthcare system. Thats americas best effor for free Healthcare. You think youre gonna get free Healthcare like the senators get???? Lol
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>stop funding israel
>stop funding MIC kikes
>stop funding medicare/medicaid and replace it with universal coverage
>start taxing billionaires
>standardize medical/pharmaceutical costs nationwide based off of global averages
there you go, now we have universal care AND we're still saving way more money than before.
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>>546203648
The tax money currently being given to Israel. Ezpz
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Your nation currently pays more public money per capita towards healthcare then most nations with single payer/public healthcare.
It's just very inefficient, with insurance companies and many other administrative intermediaries harvesting money and funnelling it away from actual healthcare into private hands.
The USA would likely save money with Universal healthcare, AND experience better outcomes as well.
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>>546204371
>Well, apparently, they pay much higher taxes that go towards that.
They also don't have employers pay employees less to offset the cost of providing insurance.
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>>546203648
I'm pretty far left, but we need to throw all of the fats and boomers into prison cells for months with no food or water, and let them survive off of their own body fat and licking the condensation off the walls, before we do universal healthcare for all these gluttonous freaks
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>>546205895
i think its reasonable for a government to do everything in its power to promote fitness and health among its population
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>>546203648
>how do you pay for it now
you pay to insurance jews
>how will you pay with universal healthcare
you pay, to the government through tax
>then how will it be better
because you'll be entitled to the healthcare without some insurance jew trying to tell you they won't cover this and that. You also won't have to deal with insurance companies anymore. You also won't have insurance companies middle manning the whole thing taking their cut, you should also get cheaper medicine since it'll be the government doing big deals buying them rather than individuals.
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>>546203648
>gut the bloated defense budget/MIC grift
>transfer the saved funds to subsidize universal healthcare

simple as
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Everyone? That's how taxes work, Retard.
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>>546203873
Dat dere Ballroom lookin' miiiightttyyyy good right bout now!
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But honestly money isn't the issue, the fucking long ass waiting lists for basic shit is fucking crazy... Years to get a simple procedure.
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>>546206362
yeah thats what nobody gets, if you actually want anything done you pay for it out of pocket and claim back what you can from a private insurer
the real benefit is not being fucked and in debt for life if you get in a serious accident and need emergency care
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>>546206184
>Do what the government wants or they will strip you of your health care.
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>>546203648
Who is already paying for health care?
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>>546206445
The universe pays for it
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>>546206421
Keep clutching your guns for the day you won't use it lmao
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>>546206673
>Can't refute
>"Y-you won't do shit!"
I accept your concession.
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>>546203648
You are, but you'll only pay (roughly) half of what you're currently paying. Either you pay half of what you're paying right now, and it goes to taxes to finance universal health care, or you pay twice that amount and keep the current system.
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>>546203675
mutts



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