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Is the future bright for TESLA and American manufacturing?
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>>546204840
死ねや
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>>546205581
Why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVm5NpUD_KY
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>>546204840
I don't know those companies, are they all Japanese or what?
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>>546205772
Japan is America with less money and less crime
Pretty wonderful place actually
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>>546205772
You do aircraft business, and don't know Toray?
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>>546204840
It is not. Simple logic. Electric cars require a stable and an abundant source of power. Indians are now being hired everywhere into every sector of life, implying that they are being or will be also hired to manage powerplants.
Benzin and diesel cars will be superior for a long time, simply based on the fact, that you can make the fuel at home in times of need, if you are creative enough. Ignoring the demand for lithium and rare metals needed to produce electric cars.
As for the rest of the Western industry, it is a similar story. Should not have neglected and closed down all of the metal processing plants, sold out own qualified people and factories to China. Neutered, like the modern Volkswagen.
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Another famous Boeing tier-1 supplier is here
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>>546204840
I heard that when a piece of heavy machinery was aquired by Boeing from a Japanese company there was a term in the contract that a shinto monk had to bless it in the place that it was installed, alone. I believe that the monk likely was also interested in photography.
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>>546205850
I only design the plane, build the plane, write all the in-flight software, board all the passengers, pilot the plane and serve the drinks.
I don't care who makes the black fibers lol.
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>>546204840
>>546205581
>>546205615
>>546205850
>>546206035
Toray isn't even the first to mass produce T1200 graded carbon fibres. It was a Chinese company
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>>546205850
Doesn't mitsubishi do most of boeing's noncarbon wings too?
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>>546206690
Not enough copying and stealing, but even lying about stolen product? How desperate ching chong
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>>546206871
I don't blame an average Dutch person for not knowing Yazaki and Sumitomo, but they are industry leaders in wire harnesses. The thing is, all complicated components in (car, aircrafct, phone, whatever) are created and manufactured by Japanese men.
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>>546205715
It's interesting what he says about tariffs at 4:55
He basically says Chinese companies commit fraud to avoid tariffs but American companies can't do that (I guess because they have more of a paper trail?).
So the tariffs give an unfair advantage to Chinese companies over American companies.

I wonder how true this is and if anyone is trying to do something about it.
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>>546204840
The only thing that could really hurt Tesla is if America allowed Chinese vehicles. That's how you can tell elitests were never seriously bothered by Elon btw; not one ever suggested allowing Chinese cars.
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>>546207005
>The thing is, all complicated components in (car, aircrafct, phone, whatever) are created and manufactured by Japanese men.
Not true at all. Japan barely even managed to finish its domestic jet program due to sheer bureaucracy and incompetence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_SpaceJet
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>>546204840
Shut up and make our parts, slave bug.
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>>546207111
Yeah my company makes 70% of the components of a humanoid robots ..all the motors, mcu and cpu NPU stuff. Big company ..

We need to build a demo robot though ...
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>>546207269
>70% of the components of a humanoid robots ..all the motors, mcu and cpu NPU stuff. Big company
You are living in a dream I guess. Most of the robotics are manufactured in China, including FANUC and Yasukawa, the two major Japanese robot companies. And yet they're selling almost at a loss due to hardened competition.
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>>546207384
We get it you unoriginal chinks have to lie constantly to satisfy small chink ego.
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>>546207384
I don't that's what the CEO said. Our parts are found in nearly every tv as well...basically we are a semiconductor company on a humanoid robotics push. Mind you we mostly sell to automotives and other big companies like Panasonic and mitsu etc., but it's not a larp. Those Chinese companies also buy parts from us.

Like a robot hand has many precision motors ECU etc, so we make all that stuff. My part is is more NPU and AI, but I am interviewing to leave for a an exec role likely in china (HSBC) or somewhere in Japan that needs my experience and can pay for it.

It's not a larp or dreaming. I know china is doing well at this stuff of course and all robots are being made there. But we have our own stuff in Japan, I think our customers will copy the best Chinese robot and we will make japanese version of it that meets our strict standards. We do teardown analysis of other GPU and embedded board and stuff as well
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>>546207478
>sales
Now look at the net profit.
https://note.com/umaki11/n/ndf3536961f4e?hl=en
>The rise of Taiwanese companies, as written by Nikkei, is the flip side of this description. In the Chinese CNC market, there are multiple Taiwanese manufacturers offering products with operating feels similar to Fanuc's, and domestic production by Chinese manufacturers is also progressing. If lead times increase, customers have two choices: wait or try another manufacturer. The company continues to say that it does not simply view this as a loss of market share because the axes of competition differ by application and customer segment, but it does not deny that substitution is occurring.

There's a good reason why its stock is struggling
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>>546207915
>stock
Good projection for chinks who do nothing but dumping. No amount of selling cheap knock-off roomba will reach Fanuc's robots profit margin. lmao
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>>546207915
>fanook corp
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>>546207863
>Those Chinese companies also buy parts from us.
I wonder what kind of component you're saying but Japan's lifeline is literally on China's policy on its rare earth export.

>Japan is months from running out of yttrium as China squeezes supply, and yttrium oxide prices outside China have risen 179-fold in two years, the Financial Times reports.

>Yttrium oxide costs $1,150 per kilogram outside China, compared with $9 inside it.

>Shortages could emerge as early as the end of this year unless Beijing changes tack or Western allies find substitutes or build additional stockpiles.

>Tokyo has asked the US to push China to ease its rare earth export controls.

>Yttrium is used to coat engines and the plasma-etching chambers used to make chips, while US defence supply chains rely on Japanese components that contain it.
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imagine my shook when i found out the fucking battery "technology" of so called tesla are literally thousands of small ones packed together

and here i sat thinking they had made any progress over alesandro voltas idea hundreds of years ago whatsoever. and people still fall for that same shtick. thats lame. you are lame elon.
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>>546208069
>Oh no, we are running out of rare earth!
Just a bait to get chinks drunk with tired rare earth story. lol

>- Australia's Lynas Rare Earths is mining and separating Yttrium at its Mt. Weld mine in Western Australia, and plans to begin full-scale exports to Japan in 2027.

>- Yttrium accounts for 29.9% of the rare earths contained in the the seabed mud at a depth of 6,000 meters off Minamitorishima. JAMSTEC has succeeded in continuously lifting about 50 tons of rare earth mud.
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>>546204840

>Golems literally sitting on a bomb
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>>546207977
>No amount of selling cheap knock-off roomba will reach Fanuc's robots profit margin.
China is a world leader in humanoid and it also owns KUKA. Meanwhile, Japan was left behind in humanoid and never got back.
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>>546204840
>Lithuim
Don’t buy it buy sodium ion batteries or wait for the new samsung silver battery to come out
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>>546208658
And all mogged by Fanuc in stock performance? How unimpressive.
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>>546208069
I work for a semiconductor company I don't know about rare Earth's it anything.

My job is to draw boxes with words in them like NPU or AI and then everyone decides if we should make it. I am just a mid level manager right now, I am ok I might be an exec in a few years unless I take a new position and then I will be an exec in couple months.

Think of big semi conductor companies their make chips or boards or discs. Right? Qualcomm Texas instruments etc.

Also what makes you think we don't hav plants in china? We do. Board assemble etc. Packaging assembly as well. Vietnam software India embedded testing and design, USA we buy companies we have and office Sunnyvale or something, Texas as well.

I am telling you you guys can assemble whatever you want with our parts but I assure you don't make things to our tolerances .

But I think you should make more robots it's good for us. I don't know if I am gonna stick around I might move to another company I have like 5 interviews this week.
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>>546208905
>And all mogged by Fanuc in stock performance? How unimpressive.
I don't know what you're trying to convey here but all the robot industry giants, including ABB, FANUC, Yasukawa have their factories situated in China, not to mention that KUKA is now a subsidiary of Midea group.
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>>546209062
I don't think you realize Japan is set up just for Japan. Like companies here do stuff for Japan first then try to sell it worldwide.

Basically they find a jpn company to buy something. They build it to spec. The other company will pay when it's ready and they can wait even if it's late. Then they buy it then we are like "ok we have there toyotA car boards, can we sell them to someone else?".


Then our ceo is like "let's see if someone wants to use them in robots".

Then the CEO is like " if you can commit to a million units we can give you 3 boards to test with.".

Then nothing happens but we sell to Toyota. The end.
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>>546209057
>For the fiscal year ended March 2026, parent company JSR Corporation reported a record consolidated net profit (profit attributable to owners of the parent) of ¥59.3 billion (or ¥60.7 billion in total group profit), recovering from a net loss of ¥217.5 billion in the previous fiscal year.
So you work for a peanut company. Good for you.

>I am telling you you guys can assemble whatever you want with our parts but I assure you don't make things to our tolerances.
The problem is, China not only has caught up with Japan's precision, it's now a direct threat to its hegemony that it had been keeping for decades. Also, the biggest bottleneck for China from reaching full autonomy is semiconductors, especially EUV lithography machines for cutting edges chips. The rest are just trivial since there are plenty of alternative available.
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>>546209445
Another irony coming from chinks who work for peanut. Aren't you tired of self-harming yourself for being a chink and retard at the same time?
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>>546209445
>w-we chinamen innovate EUV!
Cringe retard, but we appreciate your efforts for self-verifying you chinks can only copy and steal someone's invention. lol
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>>546209747
>projecting this hard
All, I'm trying to say is that no matter how hard you try to glorify it, the fact doesn't change that Japan barely has any foothold left in the high tech industries. If you want to talk about revenues, I can go one for hours.
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>>546209888
>bringing the graphic that half of top 10 playes are Japanese companies
You are too dumb to argue these topics. I feel my IQ lowering just by reading your posts. But we get it you chinks only emit wannabe insectoid creepeness, good thing is that no amount of chink attempts in high-tech industry change that.
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>>546210051
>ASML, AM, LR are Japanese
You are kinda delusional aren't you?
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>>546210196
What do chinks have to do with those? Name dropping foreign companies in an extremely cringe and pathetic way, while only emitting wannabee and wish creepines? lol
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>>546210051
>>546210406
You are too harsh, Jap bro. Just let the chinaman trying to be smart, although failed at every attempt.
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>>546210471
It must be either intentionally make China look bad, or this chink is just too dumb. lol
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>>546204840
No, next question.



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