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>>546208874Nafo would curbstomp russia overnight.
>>546208874Don't stop they will just rearm and do this again in 2 years
>>546208874>imagining that the russia would accept ukraine in natoZiggers are getting more retarded every day
>>546208874USA said they won the Iran war 30 times too yet they're still losing.Who cares what nigger Jew mutts have to say.
>>546208874Europe and the democrats don’t care what orange pedos Jew handler says,TZD is non negotiable
>>546208966>Who cares what nigger Jew mutts have to say.Enough about Germany though
>>546208874>start a war over NATO expansion>the peace terms of your enemy are NATO expansionthe year is 2043, the 3-day SMO still going strong
I hope they hang that cuckface Zelenski. It won't be hard, you can rope him on a desk lamp even.
why do they look like that?
>>546208874>Ceding Donbas for NATO membership They really wanna fight to the last hohol it seems so be it.
>>546208915So why haven't they?
>>546208874>US suggestslast time they suggested that ukies just give up altogether for nothing in returnwell for the privilage of paying mutts with a thank you i guessnow they offer NATO membership for ceding a bombed out shitholea few more years of iran adventures and they will start bombing moscow directly looks like
>>546208874This... does not sound like a Russian win.I mean i am all for mocking Ukraine's pathetic failures in this war, but all of Ukraine used to be Russian turf.So i presume NATO membership is just a bargaining chip neither side genuinely intends to tolerate or claim.
>>546208874True if big
>>546208874Ukraine is unlikely to acquiesce, because Russia is not able to take the whole of Donbas. So why should they give it up? They can just push for a ceasefire along the current lines of conflict. What Russia is able to get, then that's what they get. They need to part with this notion that there's anything else on the table for them. There won't be any NATO concessions. There won't be any ceding of territory currently controlled by Ukraine. There won't be any commitment from Ukraine to getting invaded again in a few years via demilitarizing and accepting no security guarantees from the west. Until Russia accepts that and come to the peace negotiations in good faith, total zigger death will continue. And let me tell you, Russia will run out of money eons before the west does. If they want to dig themselves into a bit deeper hole in the mean time, then they're free to do so. It's no skin off our back. See you next year. Maybe another half a million dead Russians and an economy more firmly in the toilet will make them wise up.
>>546209115Remember when Putin made those 4 oblasts officially core Russian land in their constitution? Why would monke suddenly accept only dumbass alone and Ukraine in NATO?
Bad deal. The entire fucking point of this war for Russia is so it gets to keep Ukraine from joining Nato. Imagine the braindead negotiations going on. Fucking idiots
>nato for donbassThis is objective Ukrainian victory btw. Russia has achieved 0 of its objective, lost the majority of Ukraine to the west fully and irrevocably, and got a shithole wartorn region with no people left in it in return.
>>546208874Small if false
>>546208874NATO membership is a Russian redline so how does that work? They already hold most of the Donbas as it is.
>>546209266I'd be victory if Russia accepted it, but it didn't and it won't.
>>546208874Wasn't the whole point of the war for russia deterring Ukraine from joining NATO?
>>546209262Russia doesn't want peace they're just fucking with Americans there trying to humiliate them and earning izzat
>>546208874I don't think the Russian federation can survive the backlash of NATO membership in exchange for just 20% of a country and mining resources after 5 years of drone gore
>>546209364You are watching the negotiating masterclass of Witkoff and Kushner.
>>546208915fpbp
>>546209266All Russian wanted was for Ukraine to keep its promise and not join NATO.
Russia is asking for all of eastern europe.US will give it to them.
>>546208874>NATO membershipLmao, orange nigger is still don't get it? Unconditional capitulation or THD(so THD), no inbetween
>ziggers think that would be a win
>>546209086nukes. it is the only thing that prevents western tanks rolling into your shithole.
>>546208915Well its night tonight againLike everydayfor last 5 yearswhats the holdup
>>546209508Russia controlled dumbass since 2014 so it would be well below 20%.
>>546209020Holy potkettle
>>546208874>lets offer them what we believe they want in return for what we want which they say they definitely dont wantgenius negotiators.
Russia cant stop the war. That is the whole issue here.Russia is a full blown war economy and going from a war economy back to normal will overheat their economy completely and send their entire country into the gutter. That is why Russia keep on asking for these demands that they even know is not going to happen. The idea they have about Finland, baltics etc to go away from NATO is so they can keep on having a war. Europe and US knows this and that is why they are stalling. The US clearly knows this and they are not stupid here. The US has invested tons of money now in the Eastern Europe flank, and they are going to keep on pushing for this since it is in their interest. Why European leaders are seething so much over this is either pure stupidity or they are playing stupid. Either way, the US is clearly fucking around with Russia going back and forth the way they do and they are clearly doing Europe a big fucking favor doing so. Having Russia thinking they have an ally on the other side of the Atlantic and sucking up to them just shows the desperation of Russia.
>>546209566Ukraine never promised to not join NATO. Besides, most Ukrainians didn't want to join NATO prior to Russia stealing Crimea. And because Russia stole Crimea, Ukraine had no path to join NATO, because you cannot be included as a new member state if your country has disputed territory. Ukraine was no closed to joining NATO in 2022 than they were in 2014. So if the goal was for Ukraine to not join NATO, then it was already mission accomplished. No need to go to war. But instead Russia invaded and got countries like Finland and Sweden into NATO. Talk about an own goal. But it was never actually about NATO expansion, so of course none of this mattered. It's just a retarded Kremlin talking point that plays well with western isolationists and realists that nobody in Russia actually buys into. For Russia it's about restoring it's imperial territorial glory and gaining what it sees as its rightful dominion over Europe.
>>546208874Sounds like a loss for Russia.Ukraine cannot reclaim lost territories unless Russia collapses (it won't).So it is a symbolic loss for Ukraine but Nato membership for Ukraine would be a disaster for Russia.
>>546208874Everyone seething because they can't accept that Ukraine is already a dead nation. They literally have a jewish dictator that's shoveling their young men towards the russians.
>>546209214Because he’s losing and losers make concessions
>>546209837>Ukraine is already a dead nationAre you saying that all those ziggers are getting blow up by g-g-g-ghosts? *gulp*
Kushner studied at Trump University, he's a negotiating machine. He will solve WW3.
>>546208874looks like drumpf never learned his lesson and let this kike run the country again. how is anything jared does legally binding when he has no official position?
>>546208874>party that started the war tries to negotiate conditional surrender>miggers still trying to convince you they totally just try to abondon Ukraine and didnt lose the American "proxy" war
>>546209045Not a hint of humanity in his eyes.
>>546209875It's just what muttoids say while a few days ago Russia said what they want and their requirements for peace became even more ridiculous
>>546209806Russians aren't able to build civilization beyond mudhuts and vodka but they think they should rule Evropa. lmfao talk about delusions of grandeur
>>546209041Putin would be shocked at the idea of such unchivalrous action and will make sure that many Russians die instead
>>546210015Russian demands increased because witkoff and kushner are awful negotiators like their orange pedophile boss.It literally doesn’t matter, zion Don has no say in what Ukraine does anymore.
>>546208874Ukraine becoming a member of NATO would be a bigger loss for Russia. Trying to prevent this was a primary reason for the invasion in the first place.
>>546210101>Trying to prevent this was a primary reason for the invasion in the first placeLmao no. But Russia made it one of the main official reasons, so Russia letting Ukraine joining would be internally and externally admitting defeat
>>546210101Read this: >>546209806You might learn something for once.
>>546210184What was the actual reason then? To get humiliated and lose half a million men to control a country you were in control of not very long ago?
>>546210096When trump was elected again ALL aid was stopped day 1 so it's obvious that they have no say in this war anymore. They can fuck off and continue losing against Iran.
>>546210230Sounds like a lot of coping.
>>546209806That's retarded. The whole idea of "NATO expansion" is Western military expansion into major Russian spherenof influence. Even without Nato, sending all that Western military equipment to Ukraine during the Donbas conflict, especially during and after the Minsk Agreements ceasefires (as early as 2014) was obviously the red line. All it showed to the Russians that Westerners abused the negotiations as an opportunity to push in military renewal into Ukraine rather than de-escalate the situation. It guarenteed that the Russians have even less trust in any good faith negotiations. Even with this Iran war and the Gaza conflict, western aligned parties just abused the negotiations to kill diplomats, rally, and rearm for a renewal of conflict.Before that with the dissolution of the USSR, instead of relenting Western aligned countries kept expanding an aggressive posture and sought to undermine them everywhere they could. Thus, there's no trust and Europe is now plunged into a cycle of forever wars of attrition, ultimately weakening it well into the future. A future that the Russians are already betting on the Chinese to deliver a far more multi-polar world, along for a deteriorating political situation in the West. It is their existential sacrifice and all in bet. Now, Europe buckles under a ruinous burden, along with the US as the attrition and multiple fronts stack.
russia's conditions are simple, they want territory, and they want to be able to grab some more later on.
>>546208874Why would the Russkies want that?They have Donbas and Ukraine in HATO is a deal breaker for them.
>>546210268>What was the actual reason then?Trying to topple Ukraine and install a Russian puppet (most likely yanukovich again)After that miserably failed they did a sour grapes type of retreat and tried to claim novorossiya regions That's not going that good either because they were too hasty and the claimed Russian regions don't even reflect the de facto status on the ground, they are not fully controlled by Russia That's the current status, Russia is trying to push to conquer those regions and after that most likely try to go for peace Currently since they haven't conquered them they're not really interested in peace, only a surrender
>>546209636>the absolute ironywait...
>>546210101Actual reason was stopping the EU economic integration deal because they did not wanted that Ukraine would compete with Russia for resources exports in the European market.So monke invaded believing Europe wouldn't do shit anyway but then they lost the entire European market.Peak monke economics.
Russia will say niet!The whole point of this war is to prevent Ukraine joining NATO. The only acceptable solution is for them to be part of Russia, a neutralfag like the Swiss or fully demilitarised.
>>546208915With what missiles and arty? We don't have any.
>>546210459It's all so tiresome and foolish. Like WW1 tier destruction and loss of life for ego. Russia ought to be integrated with the EU or, at minimum, engaged in a mutually beneficial partnership.
>>546209589>Tanks>Current year
>>546210053Looks cozy. Russians are slightly better than western Europeans as people so I vote for them.
>>546208874That's not a good deal.. We would only get more problems with Ukraine in nato just because of Russia and Ukraine being corrupt as fuck.
>>546209020"nanana booboo! you are! not me!" tracks with the average MIGGER IQ
>>546208874had little Z did this 2 years ago he could have trade donbass back with kursk
>>546209991>>546209991In his case, his face is 99% botox; compare his current self to his young self and you will see it. That said he did have those same jewish soulless eyes even then.
>>546208874>Ukraine has continued to advocate ceasing the conflict on the current lines..Putins a Dip shit and doesnt want peace. The only way this makes sense is if the 10% of Donbas held by Ukraine, right now's, eventually fall to the Russian Forces is a high percentage possibility. Just a little Longer and CHYNA will own Russia, like a central bank of Japan and we can negotiate with Xi for peace, and fly in and blow little Russian boys bussy out (with my dick) for a few USD in CHYNA!...Chyna #1. (not their women tho, there Russian women have done nothing worthy of punishing them with my pecker, inn their time of food strife)
>>546210459>muh european marketDidn't all of your companies go bankrupt and now you don't make anything at all while also giving out all your resources to some fucking slav shithole known for being the most corrupt country in the world?What is the European win here? I'm not seeing it
>>546209138>Ukraine makes concession >Not a win for Russia You nafotroons are something else man
>>546209806No, you have to remember the core postulate of how states operate. The state will always do that which will prolong its own existence. Russia didn’t “steal” Crimea, they maintained their ownership of Sevastopol, because they consider their ownership of Sevastopol to be necessary to their existence. Which is true.
>>546208874>For NATO membershipI think they'll get a "nope" letter from Putin
>>546209115I think Ukraine has payed with the blood of 50% of the population? You have to think about at what cost is a puric victory when youre all dead and now broke..and Im rolling up with my pecker and a $5 US bill like whats up with you guy? WHO WINS?? Fly your little pride flags Ivan. You will need it when I get done with your butthole to wipe up with.
>>546210527The whole point of the war was over the militarization Ukraine by Western countries during the Minsk Agreements. You don't have to be in NATO to be a threat and be shown that there was no option to de-escalate just like in WW1 between Germany and Russia then.
>>546208874Lol that would mean ukraine won
>>546210540with stinky axewounds and nagging warfare
>>546208915>>546209589
>>546211121Interesting
>>546211121Paid* Pyrrhic* how drunk are you retard?
>>546211158>>546208874Ukraine in NATO would be a massive strategic defeat for Russia. They'll never accept that.
>>546208915>Nafo would curbstomp russia overnight.>Laughs in African You couldn't even beat a group of routy niggers from Africa.
Ziggers are already pre-coping that basically anything outside Putin getting ousted is a 'win' for them
>>546210285Trump was elected the second time with a red house and congress, that’s over.
>>546208874That would be a huge win for NATO.
>>546209086Because NATO doesn't want to start another war since its a defence pact.
>>546208874why is Kushner the official US ambassador everywhere but doesn even hold a position the Trump administration? how is it legal?
>>546213416So why did NATO, a defense pact, attack Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Iran, and more?
>>546208915You lost, tranny. Russia won.
>>546209041based and dont forget his whole bloodline and their neighborsya listening you stupid glowniggers
>>546213513Look it up
>>546213513>SerbiaSerbia was chimping out and genociding peopleNot in a "we have to bring the separatists under control" way, but "let's kill ALL the separatistsAlso it ignored a bunch of UN resolutions and couldn't just calm down Now whether the bombing of Serbia was an excessive show of force is a different question, but ultimately the operation was justified >AfghanistanAmerimutts crying for help post 9/11>IraqAmerimutts crying for help post 9/11>LybiaNATO was never involved there >SyriaNATO was never involved there >IranNATO was never involved there
>>546213538>Russia wonRussia is transwinning
>>546208874Why would Russia ever agree to that? Why are Westerners becoming Indian at a record pace? Delusional gloating and begging for acceptance at the same time.
>>546208874On the contrary, this plan would be an enormous defeat for Russia. Ukraine and their Western backers would happily sign away large amounts of Ukrainian land as long as no political changes are made in Kiev.
>>546208874that's a hell of a bargain
>>546208874Vatniks in full cope mode.
>>546213538Russia is losing territory for 12 months you fucking retard and that's with Trump and Musk helping them.
>>546208874US has floated that idea since Trump came back into office. Means nothing. Just Zelensky reminded us AMerica is the enemy.
>>546213695Iraq wasn't really NATO either but the "Coalition of the Willing". Anyway you can explain it a million times but turdies just don't understand how a defensive alliance works because they are used to russian commie bs.
>>546214413>US has floated that idea since Trump came back into office.It hasn't Trump has floated a "European Defense force" with America not being involved
>>546211170They're right though. The optics of glassing iran aren't good though and I agree. Now glassing israel, why aren't we looking at that option?
>>546211170I mean, they are not wrong.
>>546208874So we didn't have to fight the war got Sweden, Finland, and if this deal goes through most of Ukraine how is this a loss for NATO?
>>546209589I wonder what Nato cope cages would look like?
>>546209115Ukraine was offered 200 billion dollars in reperations by Russia, retard faggot shill.
>>546214570Fuck off troon.Iraq was run by NATO command centers
>>546213695>Lybia>NATO was never involved thereYou are a pathetic lying faggot.Why even bother?>https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/operations-and-missions/nato-and-libya-february-october-2011
>>546208874JUST>>546208915COPE NIGGER PFFFHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Right back to square fucking one lmao. Both sides lost a million people altogether. Ukraine's demographics are forever altered, and zelensky is probably going to get fucked up in court and lose all his ill-gotten shit.If they would have just cooperated on day one all those men would still be alive, all those people would not have fled ukraine, their economies wouldn't be in tatters.SO fucking stupid.The Donbass was ethnically Russian to begin with for fuck sake.
>>546214743When?>>546214789If you rent out your house to me and I murder someone in it does that make you a murderer?
>>546214977>If they would have just cooperated on day oneThat's what they did until Russia invaded.>The Donbass was ethnically Russian to begin with for fuck sakeAnd america is ethnically english. whats your point? Btw russia lost ALL remaining godwill from ethnic russians in donbas the day they invaded. But of course you dont actually know anything you are talking about.
>>546214895Oh you're right they were, my bad.>no fly zone Anyway it's a nothingburger and the rest still stands
>>546215137You retards never change, it's incredible how fucking stupid you are. Ukraine was attacking the Donbass region to push the Russians out of there and Russia responded to protect its people. I don't care what other nonsense you pull out of your ass, shill. I know the score. I also know Ukraine's government is illegitimate, the product of a coup.So stop talking and SUCK MY DICK you retard.
>>546214989You obviously are a shit head who has no idea what you are talking about about
>>546215137>That's what they did until Russia invaded.Isn't Ukraine broke 3 peace agreement with Russia? Like Minsk1 , Minsk2 and Istanbul ones?NAFO and Jewlensky said - It's totally okay to break peace agreements because it's Russia and they will never retaliate.
>>546215172And now you are pretending Libya was just a no fly zone.NATO dropped 30,000 bombs, faggot shill
>>546215299The shills always conveniently forget everything wrong Ukraine and zelensky did. If they ever acknowledged any of it they'd have to admit they were wrong about other things but they will NEVER do that because they're all narcissists with no skin in the game they just want to shit up the internet with their retarded nonsense.
>>546209806tldr: Russian rape Pollack baby cries like a baby
>>546208874I’m sorry Zissy but weapons will keep flowing to Ukraine.
>>546215299>>546215345>>546215404The shills found the thread kek
>>546210426will laugh as russian pulverises deindustrialized mulism germany
>>546215241>Ukraine was attacking the Donbass region to push the Russians out of thereYeah, that's usually the response when someone invades your country you stupid fuck. Ffs Russia even admitted the "little green men" in Crimea were russian soldiers yet the donbas "seperatists" were totally organic and real! Cope, seethe and eat some of Victoria's homemade cookies faggot zigger mutt.
>>546215643>zigger delusionsNever stops being funny
>>546215581 my cock found your mouth ( but refused with disgust)
>>546208874Seeing Euros constantly chimp out about Russia never gets old.
>>546215817>immediately starts thinking about gay sex They just can't help themselves, can they
>>546208874I mean... that seems extremely fair. Russia doesn't want Ukraine in NATO but if they get free land they haven't taken yet it would set up a defacto trigger for if they invaded again.
>>546208874> Nato membershipStill a comedian.
>>546208915With their broomsticks?
>>546208874>Zelensky>KushnerBoth kikes. Hell the fag in the background could be a kike too.
>>546216121>even the ugly birds used to be slimgrim
>>546215796Separatists had 20 batallions of troops faggot shill. Get new propaganda. 99% of the POWs captured by Kiev on the first 6 months were former ukrainian citizens.You will never be a woman
>>546216599>we only had 20 battalions with tanks and other heavy weapons we dindu nuffin
>>546208915Really? Why hasn't it?Maybe they should mobilize their scooters already
>>546210540Says who? NATO has plenty of both, anyway doesn't matter much when NATO establish total air superiority in a matter of hours. They can't even shoot down our planes ffs.
Ukraine will have nukes, NATO alon just won't cut it anymore.
>>546211794But now house and senate are blue
>>546216599>You will never be a womanYou will never be white
>>546209636>>546210911>t-turnabout isn’t fair play reeeShut up bitch
>>546208951Theyve already learned to accept Finland in NATO.
>>546208915Bitch please, you aint even man enough to kill yourself.
>>546209199> Russia is not able to take the whole of DonbasNot yet, perhaps. I wonder if Russia even wants to occupy all of Donbas and stop their attacks at this point because it would allow Ukraine to recover and rearm. It would be like a ceasefire of which we know that Ukraine craves it but Russia prefers to avoid. The goal of conquering all of Donbas might be a pretext to keep the denazification and deindustrialization going. I believe Putin is cooking Ukraine and the EUSSR on a small flame. Bleeding them out is more important than occupying some clay in Donbas.
>>546217486>I wonder if Russia even wants to occupy all of Donbasas it currently stands, according to russias internial jurisdiction, Russia is occupying 0% of Ukraine and Ukraine is occupying a portion of Russiathat's what happens when you preemptively claim territory you don't own as yours kek
Witkoff and Kushner are not 'NATO'. They're representatives of Trump's clown regime and have no understanding of diplomacy or foreign policy in general.>>546215345>NATO dropped 30,000 bombs 7,700* All entirely just and righteous too.And it was because of the Arab states, following an unprecedented request from the Arab League, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 1973. This authorised member states to establish a no-fly zone over Libya and take "all necessary measures" to protect civilians under threat of attack
>worthless and destroyed piece of land>for nato membershipIf I were Zelensky I'd take it in a heartbeat.
>>546210291russia isn’t entitled to a sphere of influence. nothing of their wishful thinking matters
>>546208874Remember that TheUkraine could have kept the whole Donbas if only they granted the ethnic Russian Republics autonomy. This was the alleged purpose of Minsk 2. We today know that the West didn't want this peaceful solution.
>>546208874>NATO membershipDo these retards not remember that this is what caused Putin to roll in and start blowing shit up? That and Zelensky trying to genocide ethnic Russians?Putin should tell them he will begin talks in the Spring.
>>546218186I suspect that your opinion matters much less.
>>546218160That wasn't an offer by Russia.
>>546208915>Nafo would curbstomp russia overnight.LMAOOOOOO>not one air defense missile in all of europe to send to ukraineturns intonato logic:>"nato could defeat Russia on the battlefield in an instant but it chooses not to but it could in 2 hours if it wanted to but for now it just doesnt want to (but it could)"
>>546215172nice try mehmet
>>546213416> since its a defence pact.Because things don't exist outside of their formal designation?This is Frankfurt School of Thought gymnastics.
>>546208915lmao
If Ukraine doesn't join NATO then Russia will just attack again as soon as its rebuilt its strength..
>>546213760> Why would Russia ever agree to that?They won't and they are of course expected to refuse.Read the pic in OP again:> Zelensky saysNothing serious, only a notorious comedian doing his job there.
>>546219198Ukraine is obviously going to get some kind of article 5 security guarantee. The talks will determine whether its within NATO or a similar type of agreement outside of NATO.
>>546208915With what, rubber duckies? LMAOOOO
>>546219167lmao@the dipshit with the ghillie suit
>>546208874we get a refund for all the money we sent right?>Australia has provided nearly $1.9 billion in total assistance to New Russia (formerly Ukraine)
>>546209086Something something NATO is apparently not the aggressor after allWOAH WHO WOULDVE THOUGHT
>>546213695NATO did LibyaA few members did Syria it wasn't just AmericaIran is a fair retort because that was all America and israel, along with the stuff in the levant against gaza and lebanon.I do raise you Somalia (2006) in replacement for Iran because it created terrorism that never existed and turned a mostly ended war into a brand new one.You got like a million plus refugees more of Somalis for no reason other than chimping out over black hawk down from the 90s.
>>546209262Wrong. Russia made a proposal for a European security framework in 2021.https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=enThe NATO aggressors refused and pushed Ukraine to start an invasion and enthnic cleansing of the independent Donbas republics, signalling their intent to exterminate the peoples of Russia. Forcing Russia has to defend the safety of the Russian peoples by military means. All military means, if required.
>>546219198Did they ever attack Ukraine before 2014?Did they threaten to do it?Did we fear they would?Nope. We know that it took years of slaughering ethnic Russians in Donbas and breaking the promises of Minsk 2 to provoke their invasion.
>>546209266That's not what's in the proposal. Read it. The actual original source, not some twisted, out-of-context pro-EU interpretation by BILD or Blitz Illu or Tagesschau.
>>546209575Its actually funny that the same peace deal has been given to Russia this many times, its telling how all of Russia's neighbors think they are retarded enough to take this deal.>>546209589>people who lost to ragheadsidk not looking that threatening to anyone, you gotta beat iran before you can claim russia is light work.>>546209806While this is all true, lets not pretend ukraine was not also a glowop by the CIA.Its not a debate its a fact a western color revolution occured in ukraine, no if ands or buts about it.So the west did their color revolution, russia chimped out and took crimea, and when they won easily they tought the rest would be easy too.When they entered ukraine the west pulled the 'ol mujahideen strat to try and do total zigger death like afghanistan.Unfortunately from hacks we see Russia only lost like 500k dudes, which in pidor numbers means not enough.The reality is Russia will likely win and king kike will run to israel and get endless shekels for making eastern europeans kill eachother.>but at least ukraine is getting hebrew and replacing ukrainians with jews
>>546219198>If ukraine doesn't join NATO then Russia will just attack again as soon as its rebuilt its strength..Russia is attacking NOW you faggot niggerand they are militarily, industrially and economically stronger now than at any point in the last 50 years you shit eating idiot
>>546219325They will get nothing that they could abuse to trigger WW3.Neither Russia nor the West can trust Kiev.
>>546219325>ukraine is obviously going to get some kind of article 5 security guaranteelmao, no they arentno one is coming to fight for ukraine everunder any circumstanceukraine would use those conditions to provoke an attack almost instantlyukraine is a rabid dog nation that simply needs put down, which is how this war will end
>>546208874Yeah two more decades and Russia will have all of Donbas.
>>546209266>Russia has achieved 0 of its objectivelmao>donbass secured>nato demilitarized down to the last AD missile>ukraine shattered forever>US leaving nato>Russia economically, militarily and industrially stronger than everNIGGER WHAT?
>>546209045What do you mean by "they"?Politicians?Billionaires?Watch your tone.
>>546219910>They will get nothing that they could abuse to trigger WW3.>Neither Russia nor the West can trust Kiev.precisely thisukraine will never get anything that will allow it to cause a war like they did here ever againarming ukraine caused all of this,it wont be allowed againits a rabid dog nationa literally nigger pitbull country
>>546208874>take 80% of Ukraine which is a core Russian territory.>surrender.kek delusional zigger cope
>>546208874Considering that the war started also because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, this obviously won't fly. They basically saying that those are phony negotiations, and that they never intend to end the war until the last hohol is alive.
>>546220110that is funny that Russians didn't mind sicking that Pitbull on anyone they could when it was soviet terratory.
>>546219668It was a "humanitarian intervention with a robust mandate".This is literally how we excused our own war of aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999, also not approved by the UNSC and thus, formally, a war crime. We created the precedent. Russia can refer to it.
>>546208966How many wars has Germany won in the last 100 years dumbass?
>>546208915Fpbp
>>546213416>Because NATO doesn't want to start another war since its a defence pact.I don't know if you are the greatest shill or the greatest retard.
>>546220157>They basically saying that those are phony negotiations, and that they never intend to end the war until the last hohol is alive.its obvious ukraine is still refusing to accept realityat this point, i fundamentally have no idea why the US doesnt just simply yank the satellite feed from ukraine entirely and force the instantaneous end to the war.europe has zero ability to supply ukraine in this way, no one doesbut to the first part of your post, "nato" essentially does not exist anymore, OR it exists entirely 'in theory' and on paperall of euro 'nato' doesnt have a single air defense missile to send ukraine anymore. they have nothing. nato no longer exists'nato' is just sheets of paper that claim x,y or z european nation (theoretically) has (insert some number) of conscripts or 'reserves' they could (theoretically) draft or send to war...but nothing to arm them with and no way to send them on some expeditionary combat deployment>hurrrrrrr but nato has 58485486 F35's and (kek) euro fighters!!!fucking irrelevant^every single european jet is wholly and entirely reliant upon US satellites, US data planning, US link-16, and US radars and ground control NONE (ZERO) of which europe has on its ownthey also require AWACS, ground-radar and space assets to coordinate attacks.literally every single GUIDED shell, missile, bomb or jet REQUIRES the US. full stopeverything nato has that functions independent of the US was sent to ukraine and obliterated by Russia, which "is a good thing" because its old coldwar junk nato didnt want anyway...because its "planned&expected" to take delivery on a whole bunch of new shit *checks notes* sometime Q3 of 2037
>>546208915NATO roadblocked them years ago. NAFO would just get missile striked frequently dute to Reddit posting using foreign cell data.
>>546208915>nafowell played
>>546208874>baiting jewkraine with NATO membershipthey will never give that shithole country NATO membership, its too corrupt and too retarded.
>>546219668>the NATO aggressors refused and pushed ukraine to start an invasion and enthnic cleansing of the independent Donbas republics, signalling their intent to exterminate the peoples of Russia. Forcing Russia has to defend the safety of the Russian peoples by military means. All military means, if required.>>546220279>It was a "humanitarian intervention with a robust mandate".>This is literally how we excused our own war of aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999, also not approved by the UNSC and thus, formally, a war crime. We created the precedent. Russia can refer to it.pretty insane what they were allowing ukraine to do too>WEBM RELATEDcrazy how dehumanized euro-politicians are and their petty centuries long bitter euro-grudgescouldnt hate them enough if i tried
>>546210291Russia is entitled to nothing. Stop sucking their cock for absolutely zero reason you fucking jew.
>>546208874Why after all this bullshit would Russia allow them to joint NATO? The so called negotiators make asinine demands like this so it seems like they are doing something when the real goal is for the war to continue.
>>546220658>Russia is entitled to nothing. Stop sucking their cock for absolutely zero reason you fucking jew.Russia won, and is pissing on ukraine as we speaknothing will ever EVER recover the 1991 bordersukraines future is to surrender to Russia terms and accept their new reality
>>546220683>The so called negotiators make asinine demands like this so it seems like they are doing something when the real goal is for the war to continue.its obvious ukraine refuses to conceede and has chosen to fight untill the last ukrainian male diesshit like this is a 'test' to see if the ukroid morons are smart enough to take ANY deal that ensures some portion of their male population livesit starts with BS like this,and in the end will be whatever terms Russia laid out in the piss talks in 2025there isnt going to ever be a scenario where ukraine pulls shit like this againFORTUNATELY, euro-nato literally demilitarized itself during this war and will have no ability to wildly and subversively re-arm ukraine in any interim period, in any serious wayeurope simply has no industry, resources or ability to do such a thing
>>546208915Hand me the gameboy controller i'll get 400 square miles of russia in a week, but I get to keep 40. Also i need a cute 10/10 wife before I hurt anyone.
>>546220799>Russia wonDay 1,726
>>546213505Because Trump doesn't trust the existing US diplomatic corps with his Ukraine war policy, and this is the one instance where Trump's instincts are 100% right. Not that Whitkoff and Kushner are qualified, but rest assured they have gotten a lot farther than the State Department would. The Europeans will give you an idea of where status quo diplomacy would like things to be.
>>546208915Do it then stupid nigger losers faggots
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>>546221063Careful crest, dont post too loudly or TCC will be on their way
>>546221063Day 1,726 of ukraine gettings its fucking anus prolapsed by Russia and humiliated by european female politiciansbravokeev is cut in half and has no power and your women shit in bags and hike them to the dumpster (stinky)>pic relatedyoure in for ANOTHER winter of *that*but im sure by now you love the buzzz&hummm of the honda generator pollutting the air
>>546221195>Careful crestWhen will the pidors stop dying?
>>546221228>keev is cut in half and has no power and your women shit in bagsYou repeat this garbage every winter, but now pidor pederation is getting bombed in retaliation every day.
>>546208915Please put me in charge of the zigger torture wing fellas, I have a lot of great ideas ranging from blasting 200% sped up Taylor Swift at 120db to pulling out pubic hairs and making them drink tea from it.
>>546221162ukrainian people buss other ukrainians to the trench 30k a month at a timeukrainian people have chosen to fight untill the last ukrainian man dies on their own volitionat any point in time ukraine could stop their suicide, leave the donbass (which they didnt want anyway) and accept the reality of their new lives which they would still have at that point.....otherwise....its the lindsey graham ending for them
>>546208874>ceding donbasssheeeit negro, that clay is already russian. how are they pretending it is theirs to give?
>>546221306its because its true, its happening now, and will continue without end for keevlmao, random drones strikes by london on Russia make absolutely zero effect on this war or Russias ability to cave your country's skull in>webm relatedmeanwhile is your country 24/7 365 and its only going to multiply in the winter
>>546221502Pidor pederation will keep getting bombed every day.
>>546221324>Please put me in charge of the zigger torture wing fellas, I have a lot of great ideas ranging from blasting 200% sped up Taylor Swift at 120db to pulling out pubic hairs and making them drink tea from it.
US has been trying to get Ukraine to surrender to Russia since 1991. Why is this news?
>>546221527>Pidor pederation will keep getting bombed every day.and keev-faggots will continue to drink from mud puddles and use their last 5% of their battery to scroll past their surrender talks on the news!based trade i would say!
>>546208874Setting up all the pieces for WW3.
>>546208874>>546219821I wonder how many of you read Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives," where he wrote that the future world order would be decided in Ukraine, the pivot point of predominance in Eurasia. Not only Russia but also China is ready to pay virtually any price to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. China publicly and explicitly said that they won't allow Russia to fail in Ukraine. The West of course always knew this, however, due to their financial crisis literally couldn't afford to wait any longer, they had to try their luck in a proxy war, they possibly even bribed Prigozhin with billions, hoping that Russia would at some point collapse due to internal power struggle. The EU now fears nothing more than the end of war in Ukraine, they would suddenly be overwhelmed by all their problems this war so far kept out of the limelight. America is much better off, mainly thanks to Trump who successfully decoupled their fate from the decline of the EU because he was willing to accept a multipolar world order, unlike the Globohomo-EU.
>>546221605>based trade i would say!Yeah, attacking civilian infrastructure while your military factories are getting bombed with cruise missiles one after another is very based.I wonder which will affect the war more, factories and refineries or civilian infrastructure.
>>546221572no, the europe and a cabal of euro-jew aligned US jews have been trying to get ukraine to fight the war their country was bred for against Russia since 1991 (which is the sole reason ukraine exists)the problem is, their big war was supposed to start in 2014 on their terms not 2022 on Russias terms, and *welp* euro-kikes missed their window and now Russia is orders of magnitudes stronger than europe (who demilitarized itself in 5 short years of ukrainian warfare)
>>546209589so you’re admitting you just wanna waste money like a nigger?
>>546208874> Ukraine wasn't strategically relevant to begin withkekaroooooooooooooo
>>546221742>I wonder which will affect the war more, factories and refineries or civilian infrastructure.AHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAHAHHAAHAAHme too ukro bitchme tooim sure (anyday now) Russia will run out of Gerans and ballistic misisles! POSITIVE EVEN!!
>>546208874From the river to the sea, donbass will be free
>>546208874>surrendering>getting exactly what they wanted and weren't actually going to get before Russia invaded... to prevent exactly what they're "surrendering" forAbsolute cope kek
How it started>>546221546How it ended:
>>546221857Microelectronics factory with hundreds of workers inside and billions worth of equipment for people in Kyiv having no electricity for 8 hours.Based trade I would say!
>>546219434Why do amerimutts talk shit about NATO like NATO is not the US-army basically themselves? I know your fucking inbred stupid nigger-jew mutts but being this retarded is really weird..
>>546208874It's kinda retarded to think that Ukrainians would just accept this.
>>546221835the only 'strategic' value ukraine had was a shit eating retarded rabid population willing to die pointlessly in a futile war with Russia, simply for the sake of fighting Russia, which happened to be an over-lapping nato interestother than that,ukraine has zero strategic relevance, especially in a world where both Russia and (((nato))) threw their mid-range ballistic missile treaties into the trash
>>546208951They would probably accept western Ukraine in nato if the east of the dneiper can be annexed with a corridor to transistria
>>546222022Because we are preparing to leave it so we can invade turkey for israel
>>546222034Are you stupid?Do I have to explain the joke to you?Every single fucking time the hohol retards lost a strategically relevant citiy like Mariupol or Bahmut, the NAFO trannies started pretending like> oh, well, we didn't care about that hole in the first placeI extended the meme to include the entirety of Ukraine (which was never strategically relevant in the first place, as we both agree)a simple "kek" would have sufficed!
>>546221953lmao, you got 1.5 million ukrainian people killed to strike a microelectric plant that did absolutely jack shit nothing to stop the endless rain of gerans on your cities and infrastructure on every end of your country top to bottom 24/7 365you arent going to have power for YEARS by the time this winter is overthere is no more "nato" anymorethey dont have any air defense missiles to feed you>pic relatedyour country is about to be literally actually sent back to the late 1800s and all you got from it was a meaningless strike on a microelectric plant you were told was a 'big deal!'yet everyday the jet-geran wrecks you in waves of hundreds
>>546222197Just two more winters of attacking civilians and Ukraine will surely run out of An-196 and R-360!I thinks it's extremely funny how 5 years of demilitarization led to Ukraine gaining long range strike capabilities we didn't have before.
>>546208874>NATO growing even bigger>this is NATO surrenderingnigga watAlso it won't happen anyway so it doesn't matter.
Donbas is THE major bottleneck that Russia needs to expand. It would be very bad for baltic states if this happens.
>>546222022>Why do amerimutts talk shit about NATO like NATO is not the US-army basically themselves? I know your fucking inbred stupid nigger-jew mutts but being this retarded is really weird..lmao thats why we talk shit you stupid niggerthere is no "nato" without the US"nato" without the US is literally a paper-tiger fake power-point slideshow of theoretical european armies and equipment that dont exist, are non-functioning, or dont have any staff that can operate it.. and thats only the shit that doesnt require link-16 or a constant US data-link to operate
>>546222034Mackinders general framework still remains relevant
why is this pinned?
Reminder that my taxes are going towards blowing up Russians and there is NOTHING Russia can do about it.
>>546208874>Russian cum guzzling traitor in chief following his bosses orders surrendersKill yourself
>>546222072Go ahead Turkey would probably steamroll Israel.
>>546222290Well then, since the US army is useless (lost in Afghanistan, lost in Iran) then by extension all of NATO is useless, right? So it's all one big paper eagle or whatever.
>>546222221>Just two more winters of attacking civilians and Ukraine will surely run out of An-196 and R-360!>I thinks it's extremely funny how 5 years of demilitarization led to Ukraine gaining long range strike capabilities we didn't have before.lmao you dont have anything like that you shit eaterits london using US taretting data it otherwise will not haveand you DEFINITELY wont have it in the futurenot everbuy yes, 5 years of nato demilitarization, and your nation (and nato) has no air defense leftnoneyou are completely defenseless, and everyday your country is sent to the sewers to live like rats because of itnone of those performative strikes from london will ever in anyway stop Russia or its war machinethe gerans will rain down on you in an endless tsunami untill the last 750kv station is ash
>>546221781> the problem is, their big war was supposed to start in 2014Ukraine wasn't ready for a proxy war in 2014.They hoped that Russia wouldn't invade before they were properly prepared.That's why they negotiated for years about Donbas autonomy!In 2022 the West was ready and wanted nothing more than Russia invading.They amassed troops in Eastern Ukraine and threatened to overrun the "Russian Republics".When Russia's troops were maneuvering in Belarus Zelensky even provoked them by suggesting nuclear rearmament at the Munich Security Conference, possibly to make sure they would actually attack.
>>546222353Fingers crossed
>>546222221i think that guy really hates your country
>>546208874This is news? Trump isn't NATO, and he's beenn pushing Russian "peace deals," since he came back in office.Nobody even fucking cares what he thinks, anymore.He has no cards. That's why Zelensky keeps blowing up zigger refineries.
>>546222030Ukrainians will not be asked.Jews will decide this over their dead bodies.
>>546208874>russia obtains the dumbass oblast>ukraine obtains NATO membership, the thing putin explicitly wanted to stop through this war>sweden and finland also joining NATOstrategic russian defeat
>>546222461This time for sure, pidoranny sister! You gotta believe!Surely attacking civilians will stop pidor pederation from getting bombed every day.But you better don't think what will happen if Ukraine will take the gloves off and start bombing thermal power plants instead of factories and refineries, because winters in pidoration are much colder.
>>546219910>>546219946The retarded Europeans will insist, theyre desperate to start a war for depopulation
>>546222301>Mackinders general framework still remains relevantlmao, it shrank majorly, who controls Russia (Russia) controls europe..who controls the North America (the US) controls the worldRussia is the powerbroker of europeChina of AsiaIran the middle eastthe US of North America (formerly world police)the "world" was the US up untill the 21st century when infrastructure warfare becoming 'fair game'>>546222320lmao, and in the end, all it did was make canada the 51st state kek
>>546222564John in Ohio is not celebrating. Ukraine is vassal state with no warm water ports!
>>546221546>he has a folderwhy are pidors such degenerates?
>>546222388>Well then, since the US army is useless (lost in Afghanistan, lost in Iran) then by extension all of NATO is useless, right? So it's all one big paper eagle or whatever.Wrong^the US still maintains credible global geo-political deterrence because we are 1 of 3 nations that have independent strategic space-borne assetts>>546222492euro-nato made a fatally arrogant mistake believing Russia (again) was a rotten house you only had to kick the door inmany many such cases for europebasically every european empire ends with launching attacks on Rome (Russia) on behalf of city-of-london jews and their petty judean revenge grudge
>>546208874>NATO membershipthat's what started the whole conflict to begin with. jews are un fucking believable
>>546222581>He has no cards. That's why Zelensky keeps blowing up zigger refineries.we played our card last week for europe and ukraine to seethe instant the US turns off the satellite feed, ukraine folds up forever, with zero hopethere was a reason this was demosntrated to all of europe>>546222643lmao, imagine actually thinking anyone will ever believe Russia is attacking your civilians or Gaza'ing you. its never going to happen everwhat WILL happen is every single powerplant in your nation will be destroyed and you will live in a rump-state of squalor forever, with the only memories to comfort you being random drones strikes on oil refineriesbut surely gazprom having lower profits in Q3 2027 was worth it!???>>546222697>The retarded Europeans will insist, theyre desperate to start a war for depopulationukraine is happy to oblige the depopulation request
>>546222845>he has a folder>why are pidors such degenerates?i like this game
>>546208874You are a sissy
>>546221735I agree with some of this and disagree with some of this.Ukraine is undoubtably very important, its resources and strategic location means that Russia was always going to invade if a color revolution happened.Before the war the west openly said its resources would let it phase out reliance on Russian ones.Its also true that NATO puts a lot of resources into ukraine.That being said the true chokepoints of the world are the south china sea, and the middle east.As we can see Hormuz and the nearby locations in the red sea can single handedly ruin the global economy, it simply matters more than ukraine and this damaged western hegemony far more in a few months than 4 years of war in ukraine.Secondly asia is an important base to help manufacter computer chips, the chinese push into the tech sector and the existential threat of invasion makes this also far more important than ukraine.As for Trump glazing him is retarded, he is a kike slave just like the other presidents and the jews never ever share power, he didn't actually give russia anything.Infact Russia is merely another faction of jews, they are controled by their own jewish bankers see the chabad plan which mostly matches russian occupation currently.Combo this with the hebrew video>>546219821and its clear Russia is at least partially jewish if not totally, there is no "multipolar plan" and that is why China has yet to act.Russia is a trojan horse meant to suck in China into a controlled conflict and China giving enough to keep them alive but not commiting shows they realize they are the only great power uncontrolled by jews.China is the bastion of non-jewish politics, and the middle east is their preferred battleground over east europe because far less support allows them to ruin judeo-anglo hegemony.Russia will do as it did in ww2, it will use its position as the "second power" and will be allowed to sweep europe.
>>546222708>23 pbtidMigatards are seething. You lost, chud. America is now begging Canada to rebuild relations and we gave you nothing in return all we had to do was wait orange man out hahaha.
>>546219821There is no peace deal. Just an ultimatum. And it's not that the neighbors of Russia wrote that retarded ultimatum because they think Russians are retarded. Just listen to Kaja Kallas, the EU foreign minister. Genuine tard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AKxO0zcEwU&t=1750s
>>546222976What is already happening is that every pidor factory related to military production is getting bombed every day.And when the gloves will come off it will be every single powerplant and you won't be able to cry about muh poor freezing civilians at that point.
>>546208874Russia won't accept an expansion of NATO, even for Donbass. Their latest round of negotiation with Kushner and Witkoff was clear about that.
>>546222221Does Elon know you're using his precious Starlink to shitpost on /pol/?
>>546223006see you at the front Ivan, remember nothing beats the thrill of respawning!
this is no ordinary war , this is human sacrifice on the highest level.
>>546223080no kike is EVER moving to ukraine this war precluded that outcome foreverthis is such a shit eating insufferable talking pointukraine is devastated at an 'ecological' level.and most of eastern ukraine is a blasted-out hellscape that looks like "the future" scene from Terminator 1™.the land is poisoned from shells, mines and chemical traces of war, and will be an explosive hellsscape for DECADES.thousands of acres of forest have been shelled into match-sticks, and the bodies of dead ukrops will be discovered untill the end of time>>546223114lmao you have no military and are a totally fake post-national economic zone, nothing moreyou are a defacto US state that will soon become an ACKSHUAL one>>546223141these insane hyper-war-monger euro women live in a delusional alternate reality where they can chastize and harang Russia into surrender. its unreal
>>546223187Ukraine will be reduced to half the size and if they're lucky, they will get to keep Odessa as the only maritime port. The other 50% will be distributed with half going to Russia and the other half going to Romania, Moldavia, Hungary, Poland and Belarus.
>>546223175you take pot-shots at meaingless factories that dont change anything about the amount of gerans that rain down on you while Russia ends the ukrainian way of life and no one in Moscow even notices its happeninglmao fucking hilarious truly
>tHeY LosT ThEy lOsT THEEY LOOOOOOSTrussia losing is going to trigger a major mental health epidemic kek, the pidor mind just wasn't built to withstand reality
>>546222697I suspect that we will see more and more false flags like drone sightings and "sabotage" etc. to prepare the populace for war and ready them to swallow a narrative that allows the EU to throw their own meat into the grinder, preferably straight white young males of course.
>>546223343>see you at the front Ivan, remember nothing beats the thrill of respawning!Im an American in cincinatti, ill sit and wait for the webms to dunk on you with
>>546223468>you take pot-shots at meaingless factoriesWell coped, pidor. You definitely didn't need those microelectronics, antennas and solid fuel factories.Attacking civilian infrastructure and causing temporary blackouts in Kyiv won't stop FP-2, FP-5, An-196 and R-360 bombing pidor pidoration every day.
>>546223471lmao what alternate reality are you from where the piss talks are about Russian surrender instead of this one where its ukraines surrender....?and how did you get here?do you have some sort of nafo alternate reality alien tech?
>>546208915Like they did Houthis and Iran?
>>546223505>that allows the EU to throw their own meat into the grinderthey literally have no meat to grind, and no way to equip or send expeditionary multi-national forces thousands of miles away into Russiaits simply not possible for them, despite the feverish will of their war mongering politicians
>>546208874That's the plan from the start. Putin will help his Bolshevik buddies to create Greater Khazaria.
>>546223471>russia losing is going to trigger a major mental health epidemic kekRussian salt mines are already on over time. The meltdown will be hilarious, esp. with the propaganda shills. They would lose shit ton of money
>>546223654>we bombed your factory the war is over!!! we won!!!! lmao imagine thinking a single bombing somehow ends entire factories or refineries or that those were the only ones nationwide, or you couldnt simply get those widgets from Chinameanwhile, back in REALITY in ukraine>PIC RELATEDhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr1ewpd95d21o>2 days agolmao, this is going to be your whole entire country, end-to-end, and all you get out of the deal is a drone hitting a refinery and the promise that it was the strike to end the war!
>>546219167>tfw you dressed up only to get wasted on your way to the party
>>546223905may we see the salt mines?
>>546223928>we bombed your civilian infrastructure the war is over!!! we won!!!!When the gloves will come off and it will be powerplants instead of factories you won't be able to cry how poor civilians are suffering, because you started doing it first.
Zelensky literally not listening to anything he’s saying. Just thinking about cocaine. In a way he’s the most sympathetic Jew. He never wanted any of this. He just wanted to embezzle some money and inhale enormous quantities of coke. I don’t think he was a world domination Jew
>>546223971>muuuuhh spirit oft Anchorage>safe us orange maaanAhahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahQed
>>546223971I was in Krakow last month. Wife and I visited a saltmine museum called Wieliczka. They had this chapel deep underground with incredible art, and basically the entire thing was carved out of one single salt monolith. Salt mines are cool as fuck.
>>546220286you won alright. and yet you didn't. riddle me this.
>>546224016>When the gloves will come off and it will be powerplants instead of factorieslmao, so what are you waiting for? the last ukrainian male to die before you start dealing your wunderwaffe death-blows to Russia?why isnt ukraine doing that now?why didnt it do that 5 years ago before getting 1.5 million ukrainians pointlessly killed for a war they lostwhy did you wait for you cities to be uninhabitable wastelands with 24/7 rolling black outs before you started "defeating" Russsia????>>546224067ukraines surrender terms will be the same as those from Alaska (and still what Kushner brought)>>546224069>They had this chapel deep underground with incredible art, and basically the entire thing was carved out of one single salt monolith.>Salt mines are cool as fuck.looks like a very cool placewe have some in Kansas in the US hollywood sends all its film reels to
>>546224126>you won alright. and yet you didn't. riddle me this.kinda like Germany in ww2...(techinically lost) but Hitler made the entire planet aware that a baby-blood drinking cabal of literal jews are behind every world goverment across the planetHitler let the whole "NWO" cat out of the bag, and were still dealing with the implications of uncle-H being "right" 85 years later
>>546208874ukraine in nato will mean ww3 in like 2 months
>>546224198>why isnt ukraine doing that now?lmao, maybe because we know better than bombing military production factories wins wars, not terror bombing civilians and gloating how they don't have electricity.
>>546208874>Nato membershipCool, i guess you are going to cede the whole ukraine then
>>546208915>>546208874>> Ziggers in 2022: UKRAINE WILL NEVER BE IN NATO!!1 >> Ziggers in 2026: U-U-U-U-U-UKRAINE CAN JOIN NATO IAM NOT MAD Q.Q LOL. LMAO EVEN DEAD SNAIL'S PACE
>>546208874How many times will we do this dog and pony show bullshit? Russia won't accept it. Neither will Ukraine accept it without security framework to prevent part 3 of this retardation.
>>546223684>has nightmares about NAFO>has pictures titled NAFO saved>wants me to believe he's not a pidor trollfarm employeeH-ookay, "John" from "Texas" Oblast, whatever you say
>>546224295>>546224016>>546223654>>546223175https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr1ewpd95d21o>Officials are concerned that life will quickly become unsustainable for millions of ukrainians if power supplies cannot be maintained for at least four hours per day. Some privately warn that's close already, as some families are living with outages of up to 20 hours in keev.FUCKING GRIM>"Twelve-year-old Kyryll, speaking perfect English learned during two years living in the US, is frank about the disruption.">"There's no light, no water, no heat, no electricity. And no fun. All the fun got sucked out with the electricity," he says. "We have a lot of board games. We have a whole shelf, but we've played them like a hundred thousand times already.">Many families sit in the shadows as blackouts sweep entire neighbourhoods, smothering homes and streets in darkness.>"You look outside and sometimes you see nothing. You have a big city around but you see nothing because there's no light," Daryna says.>keev has been worst hit - its metro trains and trolleybuses at times brought to a standstill. Nationwide, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have gone without power in recent weeks.">"We saw why on a visit to one of ukraine's largest power stations, barely standing after a recent ballistic missile strike - the most powerful and devastating attack of Russia's campaign against ukrainian energy targets."AHAHHHAHAAH"but a drone hit that factory!!! ackshully ukraine is winning!!"
>>546224479lmao imagine thinking any of this is a skill posting from a PC instead of a phone like you kike
>>546224501>AHAHHHAHAAH civilians are suffering we didn't need those factories anyway!lmao, and then you will also say how everyone in Ukraine actually speaks pidor language
>>546209045Satan's evil boiling over into his outer skin, turning him into a ghastly inhuman monster forsaken by all Men
>>546217293Ukraine is 10x the size of Finland, nobody wants to live in the Arctic circle.
>>546224198>ukraines surrender terms will be the same as those from Alaska (and still what Kushner brought)KEK, meanwhile the russian army degraded to the point you can't even call them mechanized. Surely they can demand shit
>>546224584>proceeds to post even more trannieswow you sure showed me, Ivanenjoy getting meatcubed while the Kremlin pretends you're "missing" so they don't have to pay your death bonus to your next of kin :^)
>>546224673lmao, no one on earth thinks Russia is killing or targetting your civilians kikeno onenot one single person believes thatyou will never get the Palestine crowd on your sidenot ever>pic relatedhere are your (((civilian sites))) Russia liquidates
>>546208874I hope russians are using these negotiations to set up a nuke in kyiv and ending this farce for the new year.
why foes russia want all these ukrainians in russia? are they retarded?
>>546214608globohomo has already gone through half of their stockpiles trying to decapitate Iran because they knew they only had one chance
>>546224727>KEK, meanwhile the russian army degraded to the point you can't even call them mechanized. Surely they can demand shitwhen does Russia get de-mechanized?>>546224746>pretends you're "missing" so they don't have to pay your death bonus to your next of kin :^)lmao, but enough about ukraine
>>546224805>are they retarded?Yes and a bit delusional
>>546224760>lmao, no one on earth thinks Russia is killing or targetting your civilians kikelmao, you just posted how civilians are suffering after pidoranny strikes on civilian infrastructure, you absolute retard
JEBATJ MEY LAIFE INTO PIECESETA MY LAST RESORT
>>546224857ukraine can end the suffering of their civilians at anytime simply by leaving the Territories they no longer possess they didnt want anyway, also>pic relatedukrainians should carefully consider their actions
>>546224862>JEBATJ MEY LAIFE INTO PIECES>ETA MY LAST RESORT
>russia
>>546224845>may i see the tanks and apc's?>NO! See we have still our sovjet stock of 80 year old tanks and APC!Nigger, chinese golfcarts and scooters are not mechanized infantery
>>546224975lmao, you flopping between gloating about suffering civilians and coping how pidoranny doesn't attack civilians is so amusing.I even already know that the next step will be seething about poor innocent pidoranny civilians who will suffer when the gloves will come off and retaliation comes.
>>546220085He means jews, memeflag kike. Obviously. Your clearly being obtuse on purpose, your pilpul won't work here. Is it your first day?
>>546225078>keev
>>546225057I will now snip his face and cross him with a BBC gapejak using AI. BRB
>future of russia
>>546225206>mosquewThis could be a powerplant. It will be when the gloves will come off.
>>546225128lmao, who needs either anymore when you have endless>pic related???>>546225144>the ukrainain gloves are coming off any day now!!!!LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>itt
>>546225261>photo from an interceptor droneYou are not very smart, are you pidoranny?
>>546225261
>you just know
sage
>>546225419*all pidor threads (before bump limit)
>>546225261>lmao, who needs either anymore when you have endlessKEK, this will surely stoo russian infrastructure from burning and russian soldiers from exploding
>>546225057>>546225057no ai but very lazy
>>546225244>future of ukraine
>>546225256>>546225307>>546225319>>546225522>>546225553LMAOOOOOOOO TRANNY SQUAD UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>546224827Yes, precise attacks against specific people. Where do you think the country would be if vital infrastructure was targeted? No one can project air power like the US. You can cope and seethe all you want but a truly chimp out American military would end nations. Again, not a good look and the world would rightfully condemn us. Our military fights with hilarious restraints in every war. With Vietnam we could attack enemy anti air, air fields or enemy planes until we had visual confirmation they were enemy planes. The roe explanation was because there could be Chinese or Russian advisors in them and they weren't involved in the war or that the plane could be something else. The conspiracy side tells me it was to make it so that war could go on as long as possible for the kikes to make as much money as possible. The middle east was the same shit, always fighting with a leash on.
>>546225615looksmaxxers bros?
>by the power of orthodox kremlinism, I command you to s-ACK
>>546225615>be lookmaxxer in the army>in a counrry with state mandated anal rapeKEK
>>546225809>gets raped by looksmaxxer>children are now looksmaxxers too
>>546220658> Russia is entitled to nothing.This opinion won't prevent them from realizing what they consider relevant to their security interests.We could have had the same result without millions of people getting killed and our wealth destroyed. Theoretically i.e.
>>546225680lol>>546225809bussified ukroid meat cant compare to contract-chads in Russia
>zigger final destination
>>546225920the whole entire root-cause reason of this war is because female politicians in the eu decided>"Russia is entitled to nothing"was a sane, and safe geopolitical strategynow look at europe
>>546225956>>546226063>pigger final destination
>>546226095Mashallah, died so wifey could become Muslim
>>546225866>>546225990>implying that russian drone fodder could ever reach the german borderBetter get a bigger scooter
>>546226065>implying russism deserves anything at all>after brutally occupying and pillaging Europe for half a centuryTZD is the only cure to disabuse them of these delusions
>>546226155>Mashallah, died so wifey could become Muslimits 1 of like 3 or 4 "endings" ukrainian widows can get depending on how their play through of "The SMO:at home" edition goes.its one of those "decison based" action-RPG's with different classes of characters with different skills and it also comes with a character customization suite
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>>546226280peak >pic relatedpostmeme flag and everything
>>546226278kek holy shit
>>546208915I wish a nigga would. I'd love to see nukes over London, Paris, Berlin, Israel.
>>546226095>>546226278>>546226359>kek holy shittheres a solo route too. the widow campaign is not the only one
>they thought reset meant something differentwhoops
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