So the current plan to settle the Ukraine-Russia war is what was on the table just that 1 million + people have died and Russia also got territories outside of the Donbas?Who benefited from the Ukraine war and the IRan war again? Just checking...
>>546211438>Ukraine warUSA>IRan war againRussia and Bibi
>>546211438No, that’s not the current plan, it’s nonsense cooked up by jews kushner and witkoff.
>>546211438there is no plan to settle the war,random yapping by kike clowns is not a plan
>>546211438>offer Russia some land to drop their long standing primary issue Could float the offer but the idea would be banking on Russia not being serious about nato not moving east, or just ignorant, or deliberately insulting, or just so far up their own ass are oblivious.
War will keep on going for many many years to come. Political meetings is just time to fill up for them to have something to do.So dont worry anons. We will have Ukraine and Russia threads at least 10 years to come.
>>546211438Kushner is not part of the government, he just fucks trumps daughter.And if you're keeping up with recent events, he pockets billions and billions from every country he's sent to negotiate with.Dudes a lying piece of shit, on sale to the highest bidder.
>>546214804As long as our ukrainian migrant underclass doesnt go home we are not required by the EU to accept brown immigrants.
>>546211438Turn off that VPN retarded vatnik trash war is not ending.
>>546211438Yeah but now Ukraine is in a stronger position so this is actually a bad deal for them.
>>546214732ps. how is it that kusher has always looked like a 90+ year old ghoul no matter his age while also trying to live forever?
>>546211438It hasn't been accepted and will not be accepted by either side. So why are you blathering on about it?
>>546214863True.We will be old and grey before this war is over. Its not in anyones interest to have peace. We have all seen this now.
>>546211438Yes but the country wasn't ravaged enough for Israel to create their next homeland and there were too many loving Ukrainians on their new promised land at that point
>>546214944He's just trying to deflect blame from Russian imperialism. But he's not paid enough to do it well.
>>546214804I think there is a deadline and that has to do with France's debt crisis. The other deadline is how long Ukraine can hold out in the Donbas, likely another 12-36 months.
>>546214045You mean jews
>>546215038cumskin
>>546214899Sometimes I wonder if people like you are even the same species as me. The variance of IQ and ability to assess reality from propaganda is so starkly different.
>>546211438Putin will never accept Ukraine getting NATO membership because he wants the entire country, not just the Donbas. And Ukraine will never accept losing territory without security guarantees to prevent more territory being lost, which nobody will give them. So this is a massive waste of time and Kushner should probably just go home and manage apartment buildings like he did prior to this whole MAGA circus and stop pretending to be a diplomat when he is a landlord at absolute best
>>546214863Really? Lucky you. We're getting flooded now with jeets instead of just arabs and zoomalis.
>>546215018France can only decleare bankruptcy and be bailed out by the BIS (Bank of international settlements), the highest there is.I think this is also what will happen with most Euro countries. They will do what they have talked about for almost two decades now: Agenda 2030. The Big Reset.Spend all the money and start all over again just like any company that bleed money and cant survive.My guess is that 2030 will be the year when everything changes and until then, we will all spend into oblivion.
>>546215083At the beginning of the war, Ukraine was not expected to survive. Offering surrender for survival was a no brainer.Five years later and they have Russia in a stalemate and the largest military in continental Europe. Their survival is no longer in doubt so they have more leverage to negotiate. If you cannot figure this out yourself, you really should not be writing your thoughts down at all.
>>546215087He wasn't any good as a landlord, his 666 property was a money pit loser that he used his connections to offload, he also wasn't any good as a developer, his only windfall is being a grifter demanding bribes for access.
>>546215014I see, you're just fully retarded.
>>546215277Who do you think you're fooling?
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>>546214732I had to scroll this far down to see someone mention the NATO part of this offer. /pol/ is filled with retards and it’s sad.
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>>546215268So he's not particularly good at anything other than marrying into a powerful family and then exploiting that to cosplay as a diplomat, while having accomplished precisely nothing as a diplomat other than repeatedly show up to meetings with Putin, only to carry his demands back to Zelensky to have them denied, repeat monthly for 2 years now
>>546215482Why mention it? One of Putin's stated reasons for starting the war was the perception that NATO was moving eastwards. Accepting that deal would move NATO next door to him. It's absurd on its face that Putin would ever accept this. It's an idiotic deal proposed by an idiot.
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>>546211438It's a pointless war that just turned a lot of Ukrainians into economic migrants, much to the convenience of the US and Europe.
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>>546215782Yes, this is about killing off you slavs so jews can take your shit.
>>546215842Denazification?
>>546215236There is no equivalency. There is a dead nation with its infrastructure destroyed and all its working age men dead or crippled. They were bought and sold. Russia is still Russia and almost totally intact. It still has an identity and isn't a Jewish vassal state of abused, demoralized, dying nationals.
>>546215878Na, just a pretext, all Whites and White adjacent are jews' targets for extermination.
>>546214804>War will keep on going for many many years to come. Which is entirely the fault of you Euros and the US empire you all worship.
>>546215932>isn't a Jewish vassal state0/10
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>>546216086Percentage of Congress receiving pro-Israel/AIPAC funds: Roughly 95% of sitting members of Congress (about 505 out of 538, or 518 out of 539 depending on the specific legislative cycle tracker) have received money or financial support from pro-Israel PACs, bundlers, or AIPAC-affiliated entities
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>>546216192Yep.
>>546211438Why is a proven Mossad agent who holds no American government positions still negotiating for the United States? That’s a violation of the constitution I believe.
>>546214826No dumbass, Kushner is the deep state president.
>>546215236Kek. This fucking retard fell for his own kool-aid.
>>546214045Retarded way of not saying jewsFaggot
>>546214826Explain how he pockets it. show me the documents if you have proof.If you have no proof then issue a full apology to Kushner.
>>546216336What part of the constitution and how is he negotianting for the USA? He is not even a diplomat. Apologize for being stupid.
>>546214732It's just testing the waters. No one in Ukraine can say, “Okay we lost, Putin gets everything he wants.” They need to pretend that they're in control and that they decide how the war will end.First, they’ll make this proposal to normalize the fact that they’ve lost land, then they’ll propose the same thing but without NATO, then another proposal, and so on until they everyone has accepted that they’ve fucking lost without causing too much of a stir. It'll end with some bullshit like “Well at least NATO wasn't pushed back to 97 border and Russia didn't completely take over Ukraine so we won”. I'm willing to bet that we'll see more and more proposals like this, since Ukraine and Zelenskyy in particular doesn't have much time left
>>546215277But you're the one who took the covid vax. So which of us has a more discerning intellect I wonder.
>>546211438>Russia gained more land and lost nothing of value Sounds like russia won
>>546211438Isn't Donbass a break away area that does not want to be part of the urkraine?Why would you force ethnic russians to be part of the ukraine if they don't want to be?Can someone explain?
>>546211438Aww Kushner is off on one of his bribe collecting field trips again.
>>546216685Show the proof. If you have proof he collected bribes turn the evidence over the FBI. Show us the documents.If you have no evidence, then apologize.
>>546211438Putin never offered this AND will never accept this.
>>546216532Putin wants everything east of the Dnepr and a demilitarised puppet government west of it.
>>546216740Go be a nigger shill somewhere else
>>546216740https://www.ibtimes.com/jared-kushners-hacked-phone-revealed-over-2-billion-secret-funds-report-claims-3808903
>>546216680I can't really explain other than the fact that this is an example of what western power did all over the middle east. Different groups of people just seem to notice for the first time when the west installs leadership that is unable to manage artificial borders previously created after western wars. It's like carving up boundaries and trying to make the sunni and Shia live together. You know it will never work but you can count on them to fight each other more than their neighbors, so you consider it a win.
>>546216521He’s signed and oathed on the talamud to support Isreal, then USA pays him to “support their position”. >his father was literally pardoned by Trump for fraudI’m sincerely sorry you cannot fathom these facts of life.>What is treason for 200 Alex?>what is espionage for 400 Alex?
>>546216966I meant to say some people only notice it because Ukrainians are white...
>>546216680>Isn't Donbass a break away area that does not want to be part of the urkraine?That's not even the case. Initially they wanted either independence or at least some form of regional autonomy because their interests were completely at odds with those of the current Ukrainian government.>Why would you force ethnic russians to be part of the ukraine if they don't want to be?Because certain segments of Ukrainian society consider Russians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians to be second-class citizens who have no rights. That’s not even an exaggeration. The whole “dungeon torture” thing you may have heard about recently has been built on this since the 2000sYou don’t want to be part of Ukraine? You’re less than human, so there’s nothing wrong with torturing you and extorting money from your relatives.Don’t want to speak Ukrainian? You’re less than human. Don’t want to die for Ukraine and are dodging military service? You’re less than human. And god forgive you if you’re openly against all this shit. The famous “separatist leader was found with a bunch of bruises and signs of torture, it was a suicide.” or “Ukrainian troops are advancing in the Donbas after all the separatists killed themselves”
>>546216935Well if someone said it in a book it must be true right?"I read it on the internet, it must be true!!!"ApologizeNow show me the documents.
>>546216935Just admit you screwed up and you thought a book someone wrote was evidence of real life.Admit you goofed up. It can happen to anyone.Or maybe you didn't realize it was just book review.
>>546214244>>546214421AHAHHAHAAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHpusssies in denial>>546214899>Yeah but now ukraine is in a stronger positionHAHHAAHAHAHyah nato so strong they dont have a single air defense missile between them to send to ukraine!such a strong position to be in
>>546217376This is exactly how Israel treats its Arab population. I wonder what the connection might be.
>>546218059>reeeeeeOn 4chan there are these things called post IDs, and all the posts you see are not one person but several other individuals in fact.
