US/NATO/west invasions in the last 50 years:Grenada (1983), Panama (1989), Kosovo (1999), Afghanistan (2001), Iraq (2003), Libya (2011)Russia: Afghanistan (1979), Georgia (2008), Ukraine (2014 & 2022)China: Vietnam (1979)>but we the west are the good guys>we are more moral than the bad evil Russians and Chinks
stop wars
>>546213029>WhataboutismSoviet era logical fallacy that has been debunked ever since it was first made.Also, when did NATO invade libya? Also also, one country (USA) acting on its own does not represent NATO as an organization
>>546213888I agree. The fastest way to end a war is to surrender. So if NATO were to invade the russia, the russia should just surrender immediately to end the war, you agree?
>>546214144Whataboutism is a cheap propaganda tool of the West. Only double digit IQs would fall for it.It is to stop legit comparisons.
>>546214144>Soviet era logical fallacy that has been debunked ever since it was first made.It's not a logical fallacy. Western and white people claim they are morally superior while they invaded and killed the most people.>Also, when did NATO invade libya?In 2011.>Also also, one country (USA) acting on its own does not represent NATO as an organizationUSA is the owner of the NATO, other members just follow what the US says.
>>546214319Surrendering doesn't solve wars, it will make more wars because others will see wars are worthy starting.Maybe global government could solve them (New World Order), but such government has other drawbacks.I think eugenics could solve wars.
>>546213029NATO didn't invade shit, nigger retard
>>546216622NATO just carried out the majority of the air and missile strikes on Libya supporting "liberation forces".lmao
bump
>>546213029Fuck yeah.Who's next?
>>546214144Bro the west has never made a "logical" case for it's retarded wars, calling something a fallacy only makes you look like an emotional retard reading off a script you've been given
The difference is Russia kills white people. Nobody cares about dead brown terrorists.>inb4 look at this cherrypicked footage of a tatar living in Ukraine
>>546218216I suggest Haiti, Cuba, or Papua New Guinea
>>546218377And if we do Haiti, might as well just include the DR too for shits and giggles.
>>546213029AND how many of those if we just ignored Burger retardism?Fuck, even Burgers are learning to ignore their Jew Masters shrill demands to invade rndm cunts. Slowly learning, that is.
>>546218377>Haitisinkhole of the Caribbeanabandon hope, all ye who enter.
but there are all sorts of monsters out there that need slaying, and freedoms that need spreading etc etc
>>546215447>In 2011you mean ghadaffi had his final chimpout, everyone hated him, including the arab world. if i remember correctly the arab council asked nato to intervene.>B...bb...ut ghadaffi was based, he had his own bank and this is why the j00s killed him!!!!!11no he had beef with literally every single country on earth and his day had finally come.
>>546213029nice list.US bombsKorea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)Guatemala 1954, 1960Indonesia 1958Cuba 1959-61Vietnam 1961-73Laos 1964-73Belgian Congo 1964Dominican Republic 1965--66Peru 1965Guatemala 1967-1969Cambodia 1969-1970Nicaragua 198OSEl Salvador 1980sLebanon 1982-84Grenada 1983Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets)Iran 1987Panama 1989Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NOFly Zone")Kuwait 1991Somalia 1992--94; 2007Bosnia 1994-1995Iran 1997Sudan 1998Afghanistan 1998Yugoslavia 1999Afghanistan 2001--2023Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predatordrones)Yemen 2002, 2009, 2023~Libya 1986, 2011Palestine 2023--ongoingIran 2025Venezuela 2026Iran 2026
US regime change * = successChina 1949 to early 1960sAlbania 1949-53East Germany 1950sIran 1953 *Guatemala 1954 *Costa Rica mid-1950sSyria 1956-7Egypt 1957Indonesia 1957-8British Guiana 1953-64 *Iraq 1963 *North Vietnam 1945-73Cambodia 1955-70 *Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *Ecuador 1960-63 *Congo 1960 *France 1965Brazil 1962-64 *Dominican Republic 1963 *Cuba 1959 to presentBolivia 1964 *Indonesia 1965 *Ghana 1966 *Chile 1964-73 *Greece 1967 *Costa Rica 1970-71Bolivia 1971 *Australia 1973-75 *Angola 1975, 1980sZaire 1975Portugal 1974-76 *Jamaica 1976-80 *Seychelles 1979-81Chad 1981-82 *Grenada 1983 *South Yemen 1982-84Suriname 1982-84Fiji 1987 *Libya 1980sNicaragua 1981-90 *Panama 1989 *Bulgaria 1990 *Albania 1991 *Iraq 1991Afghanistan 1980s *Somalia 1993Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *Ecuador 2000 *Afghanistan 2001 *Venezuela 2002 *Iraq 2003 *Haiti *2004Somalia 2007 to presentHonduras 2009 *Libya 2011 *Syria 2012China(Taipei) 2014*Ukraine 2014 *China (Hong Kong) 2019-2020Pakistan 2022*Bangladesh 2024*Iran 2025Venezuela 2025-2026*Iran 2026
>>546218819we did it! look at all those successful regime changes.
>>546218592Gaddafi wanted gold backed currency and he wanted to stop using US dollars for oil trade.
>>546213029>be america>open oligarchy since the robber barons>money makes presudent, donors rule from the shadow>Lippman, Bernays, Mont Pellerin Society>businees plot but nothing happens>war profit triangle of arms manufacturers, military contractors and greedy politician whores gets in charge >cold war makes the machine alternativlos>win cold war but the show must go on>run PNAC.exe>machine needs conflict to keep the numbers going up>just create your own next villain to fight forever>run osama.exe >run 9/11.exe>run waronterror.exe>run patriotact.exe
>>546218592>you mean ghadaffi had his final chimpoutwhat chimpout?can you fucking stop using cringe reddit terminology to back your lack of data?
>>546214144>I AM SILLY
>>546213029Kys jewlak.
cool story, pidor. Feel free to post more cool stories.
>>546213029Everything above is jusified. Everything below is not. Why cant you rusniggers understand that?
>>546213029The only reason you are eating good right now is because chinks treat their people like bugs and poison their land all for your comforts.I think you should apologize to Xi for dealing with that burden.right now you filthy toilet cleaning goy!So thank you Xi, for winning.
>>546213029>the west is bad>russia good!i dont believe you
>>546214599Whataboutism was literally invented by the soviet union to make excuses for their wars and interventions>>546215447It's a logical fallacy because one wrong action does not justify another wrong action. >in 2011Nato did not invade libya in 2011>other members just follow what the US says.No. Each country makes its decision on how much they want to help, if at all.>>546216552On this we can agree. So you agree that ukraine has the right to defend itself against russian agression?
>>546218342No, calling out fallacies is correct. Doing it makes people committing fallacies mad, because those are the only way through which they know how to argue
>>546213029go fuck yourself in Wrocław xD
>>546220641>The only reason you are eating good right now is because chinks treat their people like bugs and poison their land all for your comforts.I don't have any comforts, I live in poverty.
>>546218342This is the permanently stickied post btw
>>546221122>Whataboutism was literally invented by the soviet unioncf. a y вac нeгpoв линчyют
>>546221354>I don't have any comfortsyou have more comforts than you deserve
>>546214144If europe agrees to help through nato, then they are complicit, though.
>>546213029>US/NATO/west invasions in the last 50 years:Where's the rest of them? Fuck you didn't even include Syria.
>>546214144That's not whataboutism retard, YOU are the ones saying Russia is invading everyone and it's bad while NATO has objectively invaded more countries.>>546221122>>546221376>>546221192It's an informal fallacy retard. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>546220882I did not say "russia good".
>>546221122>So you agree that ukraine has the right to defend itself against russian agression?Yes, Ukraine can defend, nothing bad with that.But right now Ukraine is being used as sacrificial pawn, the west uses Ukrainian males just to kill as many Russians as possible.Ukrainians should have surrender long time ago, not in the beginning, but later.
>>546213029Based
>>546221561>Where's the rest of them? Fuck you didn't even include Syria.Sorry, I have used western sources about the military interventions and they lie.
>>546213029>NATOTard wrangling + Justified retaliation>RussiaImperialist expansionism, with genocidal tendencies>ChinaEthnic chimp outWe are not the same.
>>546224762>Justified retaliation>justified retaliation because they stopped trading oil in US dollars
>>546222125no you implied it
