The West is failing because they have abandoned Christian morality and social structure. Without Christianity there is no Western civilization.
RABBINU YAHOSHUA SAVE ME WITH YOUR MAGIC FORESKIN
>>546239696White people are abandoning Christianity because theyre tired of following a jewish hybrid religion, no amount of mental gymnastics can save it
>>546239856You expected depression and anxiety to rise dramatically if Christian morality lost its influence on society. But people seem to be doing just fine without it and many are even happy. Perhaps society doesn't need Christian morality to live fulfilling, happy lives after all.
>>546239856If the West is falling without Christ, but the East is rising without him, does he even matter?
>>546239856Did Jesus predict the destruction of the physical earth? For centuries, modern Christianity has waited for the apocalypse, the Antichrist, and global chaos. But what if the end of the world already happened?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogcIQxMVG8
I think it's time to move on from Biblical literalism. In this day and age it comes across as just a stupid story man, but if they understood it, it would save them.
I'm tired of it.You put all your eggs in one basket>ChristianityAnd it's a basket with ridiculously too many holes in it that I'm tired of entertaining it as a feasible save-all.They are so impotent at doing what they set out to do with said basket anyways. We all know you fags use Christianity to discipline people out of social anxiety and I'm pretty sure most of you fags don't actually even believe in that shit yourselves.Conservatism INC is just a clownshow.Worst of all, they scoff and reject people like Hitler who have better solutions that would actually accomplish your aims.
>>546239696Disagree, western civilization has always been in stark opposition to what Jesus taught.
>>546239696>Without Christianity there is no Western civilizationWrong, but what does a penal colony knows about history.
>>546239696I think the reason is that we have abandoned the Old Testament; without the Old Testament there is no Christianity.
>>546239696>abandoned Christian moralityThat’s a good thing, abandoning man-worship. The new testament doesn’t contain any other commandment apart from ‘you must confirm jesus’ desired identity or else hell’. This is not an actual value at all. People will do great without it.
Look at the spirit of antichrist seethe in this thread, to the truth of Jesus Christ. Seethe and dilate shitsouls, Jesus Christ is KING of the universe!
>>546240390Yes, but Old Teastment is pure Judaism?All of Christianity without Jesus is just Judaism.
>>546240478>The kang of the jewniverseKek
>>546240124>tonight, on the history channel
>>546240486no, "pure" judaism is the kabbalah
>>546239696The West is failing because the appointed time for the beginning of the end is nearing.
>>546239696China?
Why would anyone want to abandon this religion?
>>546239696Ok wannabe kike. The west hasn’t abandoned christianity, christianity has abandoned the west. It’s a religion that’s been morphing continuously for more than a thousand years to pander to its targets and survive. Christianity is the pop of religions and its followers are the niggers of the spiritual scene, ungrateful, hypocritical and clueless.
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>>546240553We are ok with moderate Judaism.
>>546240486Yes, how is this a problem?I gather that you’d rather worship a ded guy as the Creator of the universe, than risk being labelled a J, correct?
>>546241090No, I don't like modern Christianity either. It's like a cult built around Jesus, and if we strip away the old traditions, it's nothing but love Jesus, love your neighbor, and such nonsense. It doesn't bring man closer to God, but instead stagnates around that corpse.
The west is judeo free masonic.Your crossfag virtues won't save you from this mob.Only radicalism can, and crossfaggot are cheek turning sheep for slaughter.
>>546239696These threads trigger jews and demons.Which is why I bump themChrist is Lord.
>>546241320Firstly, Christ is risen.Secondly, visit an Orthodox church.
>>546239696Western civilization comes from Greece and ore Christian Rome.The various abrahamisms are a plague on civilization and have started us to our current fallen state.
>>546241475jesus is raisin.if he’s not dead then why isn’t he alive?And I don’t mean it in a way we would talk about our ancestors that passed away, as ‘lives is our memories’
>>546239696The West is failing because it support Israel.
>>546241807*supports, sweetie
>>546241743I see what you're doing.I see what you are.
>>546239696>Without Christianity there is no Western civilization. Christianity is foreign middle Eastern nonsense created by a few Jews who were in a cult lead by a mentally ill Rabbi. Anything valuable within it was ripped off from Ancient Greek philosophy. The rest is just Jewish junk.
>>546239696>sell out your country to kikes and infinite brown goblins because of something something in the bibleThe immense crime against the future being perpetrated by christians today is all I need to know.
>>546242094>the legion has arrived
>>546242186Lol, are you retarded?
>>546239696>they have abandoned Christian morality and social structureLeftism is literally Christian morality without Israel
>>546242086No amount of ‘I see’ can make a dead man alive.ThereIsNothing YouCanDoAbout It
>>546242186Christianity is a sect of Judaism. Every Christian is a Jew.
WE WAZ GUVERNMANTZe-chriggers implicitly don't even seem to have much respect for early christians who were quite often outlaws who lived in catacombs and their being christian had little to do with whether they were part of a "civilization" or among cave dwellers
>>546239856>Always the same swedish faggot without failKys
The West is falling because it is Christian. A weak, pacifist religion which allows its followers to be pushed around.The left fucking murdered a Christian with millions of followers and all you did was pray and forgive them, pathetic!
>>546242797Christianity is a war religion. The Christian God is a war God. The Christian God killed all of mankind outside the family of Noah.All humanity originated from the 3 sons of Noah.
>do unto others as you want them-Yeah, that doesnt really work when that's their degen fetish they try to "do unto you" first...
>>546242927All I see is Christians praying and hoping God comes and intervene.Muslims are raised to hate and kill their enemies, so did the pagans. Christians are raised to forgive and forget. There is a reason Muslim women defend their religion while western women abandoned Christianity, make fun of it and openly invite Muslim invaders.
>>546242331A condition which is no mere coincidence
>>546243054Christians are raised to forgive, and forget. Because God will be the one who take violence to them. If you want revenge, God won't intervene, because that revenge belong to you.
>>546239696Just a different interpretation of the same ancient myth
>>546239696Meanwhile all the organizations feeding African niggers and giving free shit to spics are christian (or jewish).
west fell because of christian tolerance
cause we need to stomp these faggots its ridiculous RIDICULOUS YOU HEAR MEITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS
>>546242525Jesus Christ, our Lord God, is not dead.He lives.Christ is Lord.
>>546242607I think youre referring to me but, you know? with intelligence waningid be shitting on christian more often if i wasnt so busy right now
>>546243313west fell because east is stronger
>>546242551The legion's favorite thing is to pretend that Judaism isn't founded on the Talmud.Which is 400 years AFTER Christ. You guys are both liars and losers.
>>546243370being a christian makes you weak
>>546243416I am literally the number 1 chess champion of /pol/. There is no one stronger than me here.
>>546243330Ok, do a welfare check on him, get the vitals such as blood pressure, pulse, temperature, oxygen saturation.
>>546243370See>>546240103
>>546243520East is rising because of Christ. All the top guys believe in God.
>>546243483>you cannot possibly believe in something that isn't physically next to you
Trust Jesus Christ.
>>546239696>Without Christianity there is no Western civilization
People who claim they are christians first always parrot the same globalist ideals such as every human being of equal value and if the africans come to border with cross necklace and say they want to work, then they might as well be taken in.These christians are always cornered or fold in public discussions if they are asked "ok if you are christian first then how can you say no to infinite immigration or how can you believe in capitalist meritocracy where everything is not divided fairly?". I know these questions are presented in bad faith almost every time, but there's still something to think about. Are some of these people ethnonationalist first, christian second? Meritocratic capitalism first, christian second?And the religion from where I stand is completely imported and globalistic shit from the desert, but besides that. Literally developed by a sect of rabbis to conquer Rome.
>>546243742Yes. Everything you know about Rome is preserved by the christian monks.
>>546243767Christian first should put God first above everything.
>>546243767>People who claim they are christians first always parrot the same globalist idealsThe jews are supposed to lead the flock, the current set of jews leading it aren't doing so great I guess.Historically they've done a great job though when you consider the rise of the west and christian civilizations under them.Maybe when israel stabilizes things will get better who knows.
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>>546243900>they've done a great job though when you consider the rise of the west and christian civilizations under them.Stop taking credit for the work of aryans
>>546243767>>546243344>>546243313>>546242094>>546241743>>546241320>>546240682ok but who do you worshipFACT: the west is an atheist societyFACT: since the west became atheist, it lost all moralityFACT: muslims continue to be based, racist, sexist, homophobic etcFACT: the most central most important aspect of a religion is NOT some ideological tenet like communism or national socialism, but your relationship with your Deity. FACT: westerners have had ZERO relationship with ANY deity for at least 100 years now because of state-taught atheismwho do westerners pray to?we are a society that believes in NOTHING beyond the material realm... how is it surprising that we are being destroyed?
>>546240217Yeah it has so many holes and meanings it barely manages to mean anything except something vague like "christianity is how white people behave and I wish people would act christian". First of all, pretty sure barely half of the christians currently alive are white or white passing, so saying "act christian" doesn't equate "act white" as a code word. At least anymore, it's not the 50s. Then there are the other hard or impossible to defend positions which corner the person immediately if they are "christian first" >>546243767>>546243857And that means 1000 different things to different subset of groups. I mean the only actual definition I can think of for being christian means they think Jesus was a real person and he represented God for us and everything else is up to the subset of a group or even individual to decide.>>546243900Guess so. They seem to be pretty good at maintaining their power but use it in shit ways. But their own teachings tell them that everyone else is an imbecile and what they do is actually healing the world or whatever it is next week. A pretty bad combination.
>>546243792>Roman history wouldn't be preserved without Christianity for some reason ok bud
>>546239696Indeed
>>546244092>1000 different things to different subset of groups.Better than being nothing like a toddler who never learn any martial arts.
>>546244142Yes. Where were the Briton history before Rome?
>>546244081I and my fellow people would pretty much like to believe in something but it doesn't have to be christianity. But like you imply, it should at least be SOMETHING. There isn't anything, really.But look, countries like USA, Russia and Finland used to 90%+ christian when things started to go to shit so why didn't christianity protect these countries/nations? Where was the emergency brake christianity should have if it was so valid?
>>546239696Yes>>546240103Christ is rising in the East.
>>546239696>please worship sandniggerThat will be a hard no Chaim.
>>546244152But it doesn't mean anything. Christianity is not some code word for "acting white" or if it was, it doesn't work.
>>546239696>Christian morality
>>546240047I guess thats true if you dont ever take a real look at society nowadays.
>>546244279Christianity is a code word for the disciple of the Almighty God.
>>546244237>Christ is rising in the eastAnd a long with it support for Israel
>>546243250Exactly, this is why leftists are taking over the West. No strong values to fight back, it's all "just let God send them to hell after they die" BS
>>546243679>isn't physically next to youhe was physically among other people who lived during that time. Then he wasn’t anymore, as a result of the execution.Here on planet earth, if someone doesn’t have a heartbeat he’s considered dead. Death certificates are issued in such circumstances.
>>546239696Christian slave morality will not save the west, only pagan master morality willPraise Sol
>>546244212God is the one who cursed them for turning their back on God. Talking about making the deal with the Devil.
>>546239696Correction, christcuck:The West is failing because our distant ancestors abandoned their folkish gods and social structure. Without Christianity, Western civilization would never have been kiked as hard as it has.Get wrecked like your kike god you jew-loving race traitor.
>>546244317Ok what if someone says they believe in God and Jesus would take in every rapefugee and faggot to their home (I mean, Jesus probably would do that seeing who he spent time with, but why would normal people do?).
>>546244212you're missing the point. rather than deconstructing the spiritualism of others, if you fail to find anything there, you should find your own spirituality. you are attacking christianity for its history and its ideological when this serves no purpose... it serves about as much purpose as pointing out that santa claus does not exist. What I would say is that the Europe of the past two millennia was superior than the Europe of today because, for all its flaws, christianity was at least A faith... today children are being taught ZERO faith. For the first time in our civilization's history, we have ZERO spirituality... we have NO concept of a higher power governing our lives... and the most fanatical proponents of this atheism have been people like the Jacobins or Bolsheviks who wanted total power over their societies... people who brought mass death and cared about nothing besides their own power.today, europe is literally challenging the Gods - by saying none of them are real, there is no higher power, nothing governs us, there is nothing beyond our comprehension, there is nothing that will reward us or punish us for our behavior... europe has become an atheist society, and so it must be destroyed.
>>546244370There is no such thing as multiple masters. I will kill you for stepping to be on the same level as me.
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>>546244388DIGITS DON'T LIE YOU CHRISTKEK FAGGOTS. YOUR WHORE MOTHERS SUCK ISRAELI COCK IN HELL.
>>546244431>europe has become an atheist society, and so it must be destroyed.SHALOM
>>546244385An extreme example is that once/during Soviet Union was set up, Russians were murdered and imprisoned by millions and they were still +90% christian and probably were until their death. Where was the point where they turned their back.
>>546244190Where was the E-Mails in 1950? It just wasn't prudent for them to keep advanced records at that stage in development.
>>546244081>ok but who do you worshipim neither atheist or worshipping anyone.you christians have such a fucking warped behaviour, mannerisms and perception of spirituality that you sound like masochist cunts who cant engage with life without sucking cocks for a living and ask for forgiveness 20 minutes later.your entire lives are a performative larp that is barely even existing in your american antfarms where u sit on your ass all day because you hoard food for weeks to months as you drive hours between stores and your cardboard box homes that look completely fucking identicalyou think youre some divine subject because you avoid living fully and the only times your brains work is when you see giant billboards between every fastfood joint and stolen myths mixed with a midrash by jews
>>546244404To take in someone you need to have a proper power to take care of them.
>>546244439>sounds like a threat, that’s what jesus was doing.
>>546244514let us replace the word "God" with the word "the universe."Do you think the point of the universe is to let you live forever in perfect peace and harmony?Does the universe live to serve you? And if it disappoints you, if it crushes you like a bug, then you will treat it with contempt and bitterness: "Evil universe, how dare you crush me? You are worthless!"
>>546239696Liberal values are christian values on its ultimate form. Equality, fraternity and freedom are the three great evils that will end modern west and they are values derived from christianity. Real european pre-christian values are aristocratic based on strength, nobility and hierarchy. Any semblance of these values present in christianity were borrowed from pre-christian europe and were quickly abandoned as they are fundamentally incompatible with the christian mythos.
>>546244525All excuse. If you have love and passion for your culture, people will naturally recodd them. Sound like muh pagans don't have that.
>>546244562Welcome to America son.
>>546244431I know, I was pretty young when I realized that if there isn't ANY faith then people are fucked and that's just what has happened. The reason christianity is not the faith anymore here is that it either didn't hold water or it was diluted into not meaning anything so it was dropped. Especially since it was imported to the nordic countries, not born anywhere close here.
>>546239856Remember, that it was Jews and Marxists pushing for atheism in society. Most Jews don't believe in God.Christ is Truth, yet you chose to believe the lies of degenerates.
>>546244633You’re a literal orangutan gook fuck
>>546244567It's threat with real consequences. If you want to be a Master, why should any Master tolerate you?
>>546244650Dont confuse Will zu Sein with faith.
>>546244328Most people do not understand that the Church is Israel.
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>>546244686I'm the chosen ONE of God. Bitch.
>>546244707
>>546244439Do you even know what master morality is?
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>>546244761Might makes Right. Power is Absolute.
>>546244588Yea pretty much so. Otherwise I have hard time believing in a religion which says that as long as you are passive and kind to others, you don't need to change anything about yourself, and the result is your enemies will burn in hell in afterlife (well, I think Bible never says anything like this about Hell if anything, but some medieval christian memes do).
>>546244771Lie and slander. Garbage from a weakling anti-christ idiots.
>>546239696You are absolutely correct.
>>546244697Are the ‘consequences’ that you’re talking about in existence right now, or it’s just promises?
>>546244363You are not physically next to me.And yet I believe that you exist.I understand what you're doing and saying.It doesn't impress me.Christ is Lord.
>>546244809You can’t even type the english language properly
>>546244705What if I already did. Whatever that means.
>>546244790I see, then why were you so inclined to threaten me?
>>546244633No when culture advances enough you can afford to have sages to record things because there is a resource glut. European advancement would have had it with or without Christianity. The brotherhood it created certainly helped in many respects but it also bred the dark ages so it's a doubled edged sword. I don't hate it but I don't think it's the end all either. I sort of see it like a goth phase.
>>546244830Of course. If you want to be a President of a country, or a CEO of any company. You can't just declare so and expect everyone to follow you. You have to take over with power and violence.
>>546239696the west is failing because they throw their children to the fucking wolves.unless they're jewish, naturally....then they give them capital.
>>546244650the reason why the west lost its faith was probably something like archaeology and darwin and stuff like that.but faith is more important than facts. faith is integral to society. a society without faith is a society which has turned its back on the external, and only perceives the internal. it is blind. that is why even atheists know that sometimes the stars align for them. but they will call it luck, or destiny, or something, instead of God.and much more than that, what happens when an entire community gets together in its faith to worship their creator?>>546244799no, that is not what Christianity says. Christianity says that if you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will go to Heaven, even if you are the worst sinner in the world. The most important fact of any faith is the relationship with the deity. In atheist west, there is no spirit, there is no deity, there are only reasons and logic. thus, there can be no morality, because the people are only beholden to themselves; there is no higher being that they answer to. Thus, the ancient phrase, "What would Jesus do?"We are very lucky to be Christians. Whereas Jews worship their patriarchs, and Muslims worship a warlord, we worship a sacrifice - a man who gave his life to save others. This is crucial to who we are and our spirit.
>>546244845Cry and seethe about it. My usage of english is greater than yours.
>>546244874You are a weakling.
>>546239696its impossible to 'abandon' basic morality rules as theyre coded directly into current human DNA so, if they do it it, its on theman explanation will be required
>>546239696Agreed. Christ is king.
Also, since most of you atheist europeans probably have some exposure to metal, I am assuming you are conversant with demons?
>>546244843I’m physically across the pacific from you.Please carry on spewing your dishonesty.I’m not here to impress you, contrary, I’m using you to expose man-worshipper’s mindset for everyone to see.It’s clear that claims of a dead man being alive is a sign of severe mental illness.
>>546244914>Christianity says that if you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will go to Heaven, even if you are the worst sinner in the world.How does this make a good or happy society? I mean the good part is that it's consistent with Bible lore that someone can be given capital punishment and before they are killed they can be asked if they believe in Jesus and then everyone can feel good.
>>546245082You are not mentally superior to anyone here.
>>546245141because you say so
>>546244954Based on what exactly?This is an Anonymous imagem board, for all you know I could be a professional powerlifter or martial artist
>>546245082The only thing you're exposing is your hatred.Christ is Lord.
>>546244750Israel is more than a land. I encourage you to read up and educate yourself about these matters.
>>546245101>How does this make a good or happy society? I mean the good part is that it's consistent with Bible lore that someone can be given capital punishment and before they are killed they can be asked if they believe in Jesus and then everyone can feel good.Yeah but you are still seeing christianity as some sort of political ideology like communism or national socialism when I am trying to tell you it is not for the purposes of society, it is for your personal relationship with the universe. It would be helpful for you to reenvision christianity in terms which are more palatable to atheists, like luck, destiny, or karma. The essential problem with atheism is that you are claiming there is no higher power, which is waaaay outside of the scope of your knowledge. As an atheist, I can almost guarantee there are times in life when you thank your lucky stars, when you hope things will go your way, etc, and in these instances you are trying to spiritually connect with the universe. "Go my way. Be good to me. Do not destroy me." That is what your human brain says to the universe. Thus, religion.
Are Christian sensibilities something you're born with or something that can be taught?I sometimes feel like most people are just soulless husks and no amount of church attendance or Bible studies will change them.
>>546245170Based on my superior intuition. What else? I can certainly challenge you to a death match without any fear, because I do think I can win.
>>546245215Objective fact of lack of heartbeat is ‘hatred’ to you. You should ban such ‘hate speech’, then your problem will go away.
>>546240241A French intellectual named Rene Hughe, described Western civilisation as being like a rope made from 3 strands. These strands were, according to him: Rome and the classical world; the Germanic, pagan world and the world of the Bible.
>>546245325Then western civ must be destroyed.American neologism never meant anything anyway.
>>546244914your entire message isnt even about faith, its about cohesion.christianity is universal, therefor it leads to polarisation.christianity didnt invent moralsboth mithraism, the greek and the norse tribes was favoured more highly in terms of morals."what would jesus do"turn the other cheek, give to all those who beg and never ask for anything in returndont hate, forgive.this is christianity, a recipe to nihilism and followers becoming prone to inaction.cognitive dissonance is how you made this anything else.
if i was there i would have totally smoten all those med homos is what im saying
>>546245165And because you are incapable of proving yourself superior.
>>546245301>Are Christian sensibilities something you're born withYes, Christians are people who are born again of the Holy Spirit.>or something that can be taught?Only when one is born again of the Holy Spirit can we begin learning how to better follow Christ as we are sanctified daily. The Holy Spirit is our guide, helper, comforter & teacher.
>>546245313You are either completely delusional or trolling, this discussion amounts to a contest of shit flinging, if any thing this sounds like projection
>>546245388the most important aspect of ancient greek or nordic paganism (we can assume) was not whatever "morals" were taught by the various fables and myths, but rather, the personal SPIRITUAL relationship between the pagans and their pagan Gods.that is what atheists cannot comprehend. they just see religion as another ideology for social utility.that is why the state-education system is such a grievous tragedy. our ancestors have been deeply spiritual for all time but now - for the first time - our children are being taught no spirituality. They have no concept of a higher creator, a higher purpose, or anything beyond the material plane. All they can perceive is what is useful in the here and now. The theory of evolution is particularly problematic because it has convinced a wave of young people that their purpose on this planet is to reproduce their genes most effectively.
>>546245469It's always a contest of martial art, and I always win. You can never change my mind, only reinforce that I am right.
>>546245519You arent worth my time
>>546245452I don’t need to be superior to anyone. Life’s about avoiding pitfalls, not about being better than others (it’s jebus that wanted to be considered superior by others, you act in the same way).
Is anyone else hyped for Mel Gibsons The Resurrection?I haven’t been to the cinema in over a decade, seeing Mel bring the Thomistic dimensions of angelology, the metaphysics of the angelic intellect, and Lucifer’s primordial rebellion to the screen should be quite something, given the ten years he spent developing the script.The budget is $250 million which is huge compared to The Passions $30 million budget.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT6la2-DWY
>>546245578Only a cattle think like you. A king of the jungle will take nothing but victory.
>>546245519right im telling you if me and my boys were around we'd just smite those jew and roman homos and jesus bro christ would still be around to dispense wisdom and justice
>>546245658Wasnt the whole purpose of the jews life to become a communal scapegoat and die?
>>546245576Then kindly shut the fuck up and unalive yourself.
>>546245518>that is what atheists cannot comprehend. they just see religion as another ideology for social utility.you forgot to substantiate an argument for why you interpret any nonchristian in this fashionits like all you have in your head is some xmen movie with thor in it and base it on the idea that theyre demonsthe problem is abrahamic religion, they take up too much space that has no real invested interest performativity is all there is, people find it weak, foreign and fucking boring.and we know since long that christianity was just a madeup thing that jews used to survive roman persecution
>>546245697youre getting smited brah
>>546245638You certainly are ‘of the jungle’
>>546245726I have no idea what you are even talking about. do you pray to thor? who do you worship?
>>546245783I have trekked in many jungles, climb many mountain, dive many caves. I'm a martial artist through and through.
>>546245831the guy that got sacrificed duh
>>546245323Your kind has existed since before Adam.Bans are not the language you speak and we both know it.Christ is Lord.
>>546245588This is one of the few movie events that I'm actually interested to see. I will very likely see it in the theaters.
>>546245831>I have no idea what you are even talking about. do you pray to thor? who do you worship?you dont even see the irony, ve even add serious criticism of this type of answer already and it still goes over your head anyway.WHY SHOULD I WORSHIP SOMEONE?Spirituality is not making any difference to anyone to get down on your knee over fucking nothing.You are nothing more than a performative lifeform that has no real meaning in the real world.Gods bledsian.
>>546246137It's a lie to say that you don't worship anything. Something will be a Top priority in your life, and that things are the thing you worship.
>>546239696friendly reminder Christ came to make Christs, not Christians.
>>546246137ok so this is the problem with atheism you have no concept of anything beyond yourself, you are just ultra blackpilled.This is exhibit A of why atheism needs to be banned from society again. This is what the marxists and the jacobins wanted. They want the citizens to worship the state.Also I am sure that you will be put down on your knees sooner or later whether you like it or not. But this is the problem with western europe. it is literally an atheist society. and such a society can only descend into utter sin and perfidy.
>>546246007How is ‘me’ relevant to jesus being objectively dead? Why do you focus on the person speaking, and not on what is being spoken?
>>546246275this guy killed the christ
>>546239696Yep, this is obvious to anyone with a brainThere is no west without Christianity
>>546246351Christianity is the originator of your kind.But its not the originator of better kinds.So hold your horses mutt.
>>546246351this guy is lost
>>546245242>your personal relationship with the universeI mean we are already living that now with hyper individualism. Everyone already lives like that.. Which is why I'm inclined to see the religion and it's concepts as tools of making a better society and it helps if people genuinely believe it. I know this sound very wrong to many people because it's not supposed to be all or most about the output or "product".
>>546246441Where are you? I am lost too in your opinion. Lmao
>>546246326Christ conquered death.Christ is risen.Christ is Lord.
>>546246540no what you are saying is the norm because 99% of westerners went through the same education system which taught the kids the same basic things. as a result, they can't comprehend the aspect of this THING outside of normal existence which was called God for thousands of years. there is no space for that inside of a modern person's brain. 99% of pol discussion about christianity is the same things you are saying. what is the social utility? where did it come from? blah blah blah. zero discussion of the spirit itself. the spirit is not in existence for the purpose of serving you. you are in the existence because some force created you. that force is the governor of your fate. your fate is not extricable from the will of whatever this outside entity is. stop shutting your eyes to the truth behind religion: it is not communism, it is not nazism, it is not liberalism, it is not a political system, it is a connection to the outer world. the question is whether you see an outer darkness or an outer light. is there an outer light beyond the material plane which you can follow? Is there a voice in your head which makes you obey? What must you do to save yourself?
>>546244081These are all empty, ideological words. First of all the west isn’t “atheist” the way you’re presenting it. Second, christians don’t give a fuck about their doctrine or relationship with God, they only care about being perceived as christians, it’s purely an identity cult. Religion is all about turning a population homogeneous, which isn’t a bad thing until it’s done in a way you personally don’t like. And just to be clear, modern science and academia count as a religion.
>>546246067Seeing it on the big screen in IMAX will be quite a treat. Apparently Mel studied hundreds of historical depictions of Hell to develop a visual understanding of how to portray both the Hell of the Just and the Hell of the Damned. He also drew upon accounts of Marian apparitions and visions of Hell actually experienced by saints and mystics, like the ones from Fatima, St Teresa of Avila, St. Faustina Kowalska and many others.
>>546246540>Which is why I'm inclined to see the religion and it's concepts as tools of making a better societyman the hammer of god is going to smite you so hard to a cross you wouldnt even believe
>>546246684HearsayHearsayHearsayPerhaps a doctor should issue an official death certificate for 2000 year anniversary of the execution. That will shut down all speculations for everyone.
>>546239696Driving a wooden stake through the heart is the most famous and enduring method for slaying or restraining a vampire, blending ancient Slavic folklore with modern popular culture.Pinning the Corpse: In traditional Eastern European and Slavic folklore, wooden stakes were not originally hurled or stabbed as an active combat weapon. Instead, people exhumed suspected vampires (corpses that appeared undecayed or bloated) and drove a stake through them to pin them to the ground inside their graves so they could not rise again. [1, 2, 3, 4]Specific Woods: Different regions favored specific types of wood based on local superstitions, including hawthorn (Serbia and England), oak (Silesia), ash, rowan, and quaking aspen (often linked to Judas Iscariot).Alternative Burial Practices: In Britain, driving a stake through the heart was historically a punishment used on suicides (felo de se) rather than vampires, while other cultures used iron/steel needles, bricks in the mouth, or staking through the stomach or legs.
>>546246807Lmao. Christ is king.
>>546246693alright, so you are an atheist, so you have no connection to any deity. thus, you deny the existence of a creator, deny the existence of an outside force, you think that everything we do here is us and us alone and no one is watching and judging us. thus, you should be perfectly pleased with the way that the west has turned out since it turned its back on God. it has become so very nice, right?
>>546247014typical pharisee to smite
>>546246205>It's a lie to say that you don't worship anything. Something will be a Top priority in your lifeprioritising is not worshippingi pay tribute, i show respect and live with honor.if i say ill do something, it will be done.this is the type of mental framework that was top priority and survived both western rome and byzantiummeanwhile, christian leaders had to endure the sight of being lower priority even during holidays.> The book of ceremonies.
>>546247071Nah you reek like them more than he does. Memeflag does not help.
>>546246843Lol, all it takes to dismantle your man-worship religion is a little death certificate.
>>546247137Meh should've planned better demon.
>>546246690>>546246712I'm not an atheist either because that seems to be the least probable thing to absolutely sure of. Just that I'm not christian.
>>546247114your big nose will not save you from the smitening
>>546246275>ok so this is the problem with atheism you have no concept of anything beyond yourself,your not even citing anything of relevance in my message to assume this nonsensenull, nonargumentbasically just frothing at your mouth with typical cognitive dissonance and gaslighting to believe yourself
>>546246807>random words and accusationsJesus Christ, son of God, incarnate as a man, voluntarily met His mortal death.Only to conquer death and offer redemption for all.Christ is Lord.
>>546247164Lmao.
>>546247162you should be a christian because your ancestors were. your town probably even has churches. although they may be full of prancing sissies and homos. it warms the heart to attend church on a sunday morning.
>>546239696Without Christianity, the West is just Rome: murderers of my Christ and enemies of God who deserve the worst death.
>>546239696CHRISTCVCKERY IS THE REASON WHY THE WEST BECAME A SHITHOLE.KIKE WORSHIPPING HAS TO BE BANNED.
>>546247298>you should be illiterate because your ancestors wereShut up mutt.
>>546247352You are a Christ-killer, and you probably support the murder of innocent children.Do not worry; God sent the Hun and the Turk to punish you Romans, when you return to your old death worship.We are scourges and swords of justice of Christ.
>>546239696Christianity technically “died” after Martin Luther sperged out.Now there are a gorillion churches filled with gays, zogbots and gay zogbots.
>>546247298>your town probably even has churches. although they may be full of prancing sissies and homos. it warms the heart to attend church on a sunday morning."your town probably even has libraries, all though they may be full prancing sissies, homos and crossdressed, it warms the heart to attend library reading"yes, you are no different from any liberal retard who preach for crossdressers to read for childrennothing about church emboldens the native citizen, its a universal blackpull to lower the head to a foreign cult from the middle east.
The seething is real. Just the name of Jesus Christ burns them, He will return and all shall kneel.
>>546247203Will you accept an ‘official death certificate’ for jesus once it’s been issued, or will you just call it ‘random words and accusations’?
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>>546247420maybe we would be better off if we crucified thieves and murderers and impaled turksjust imagine the ratings
>>546247298The church in my country is very close to voting 50,1%* on becoming full leftie gay globohomo which means that the 49% of the "trad" christians will have to tolerate it or leave and lose access to church tax moneys.*That vote, just like voting to allow female pastors or allowing to get married and divorced infinite times, was most likely voted against 99 times over the years but it passed 1 time so it become God's word.The problem is I don't trust the "trad" christians either because they are often just as "globo" but just not as much "homo". They haven't conserved shit, they worship israel & jewish diaspora, they hate ethnonationalism just as much, they preach equality but just no homos etc. There are obviously some based ones with many white kids who happen to be christian and like going to church because why not.
>>546247713ok is it a foreign cult from the middle east? yesis it a spiritual connection with the creator of the universe? yeswhat is your way out? why is your way so much superior to the one your ancestors followed for centuries? why are you so angry? if you said this to your forefathers they'd probably stab you for being disrespectful of their faith
>>546247713I mean, if christians actually conserved something and opposed multiculturalism and stuff effectively, then almost every young man would be christian and tolerate many silly things in change.
>>546247882>ok is it a foreign cult from the middle east? yes>is it a spiritual connection with the creator of the universe? yes>what is your way out?you dont even have real questions anymore, you type whatever retarded shit pops up in your head.you are mentally ill, dont give advice to those of sound minds.
>>546247855I don't know what I would do in your shoes. In America there are many different churches, but even mine which is fairly conservative has racemixing and homosexuality in the younger generations. It is reflective of a wider society. I am interested to know what is the state of freedom of religion and also of homoschooling in your cunt, are there societies allowed to raise their children away from school as traditional christians?
>>546247855obviously you must eat mushrooms and interrogate them with the holy bible
>>546247922>I mean, if christians actually conserved something and opposed multiculturalism and stuff effectively, then almost every young man would be christian and tolerate many silly things in change.yeah but it isnt, christianity is universal with a suicidal tolerance that breeds multiculturalism and multiethnic polarisation that drains our sovereignty.
>>546239696>Without Christianity there is no Western civilization.Nice try LARPer, western Civilization existed thousands of years before Rabbi Yeshua.
>>546247750Nothing you say makes any difference in the end.Through Him, all are redeemed.Christ is Lord.
>>546239696Gay, gay lies.I have just returned from a trip to Athens and its ancient Agora. The west was fine, and better even, when it was pagan.Socrates and the scientific method. Beautiful architecture being built at an incredible pace, by workers paid in physical currency. Democracy. Freedom. And real men willing to defend it.The temple of Hephaestus sits there still, defiled by Christians, blinded by their zealous beliefs in an eastern cult a barrel vaulted roof added. Holes blown in its walls.Why? Because Christians are morons. Because Christians have no appreciation for what came before them and hypocritically break their own commandments "honour thy mother and thy father".
>>546239696True.>>546240478>>546247746Justice and judgement awaits. Praise Jesus Christ.
>>546247112Prioritising is worshipping. If you put your kids above your life, then worship the Kids. If you put your wife above life, then you worship the wife. If you kill yourself because of women, then you worship women. If you put money above God, tjen you worship money.
>>546248023>are there societies allowed to raise their children away from school as traditional christians?Somehow yes, for now, and I have read that's forbidden in a lot of countries. Almost every party and institution is screaming to stop homeschooling and the next government will probably deliver after the elections. Funnily enough, the obvious fear they claim is christian far-right fundamentalist families, but they also claim shit like somali kids need to get to kindergarten earlier so they integrate better lol.>In America there are many different churches, but even mine which is fairly conservative has racemixing and homosexuality in the younger generations.I have understood you have a very big variety and not one church of state obviously like we have. I spent some time with these people once again in recent years and they are degenerate fucks where everything goes except the lbgt flag :D Obviously there are very nice people in those circles too.
>>546247203They will suffer their choices, as is justGod be PraisedJesus Christ be PraisedThe demons stop at nothing to block you from worshiping God
>>546248062Yeah this happens to be true unfortunately and it doesn't become untrue even if lefties hate christians and hate God. Lefties hating on christianity is mostly because it still rings with hating white(nes)s to some extent. The problems is that doesn't mean that christians have that different goals.
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>>546239696Greeks and Romans were Christians at their zenith?Ummm. Ok
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>>546248227God, Nation, Family.Contrary to what demons say, there is no contradiction.Protecting your people is protecting God's works.Protecting your family is protecting God's works. Worship is reserved for God.However, "prioritizing" kith and kin is obedience to God's natural order.
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>>546239696>The west is falling because they refuse to worship a middle eastern manKek. Next time run your idea by your (((boss))) faggot. This is retarded
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>>546248394the reason leftists dont push christianity is because their voterbase is predominantly muslimthe christians behaved the exact same way in rome before the fall as leftists do today.its all about vote maximisation, the only way foreward is to change the mental frameworkie: remove churches, mosques and so forth.push a quiet revival of wotanism, mithraism and apollonianism with clear objectives for rites.the more people pay attention to details, the more the mind begins to defragment itself
>>546248288Yeah, I am very disturbed by how atheist Europe is, don't you have any rednecks or hicks or old traditionalist conservatives who go to church? Or are they all atheist? I have often heard that in Europe the stereotypical male boomer is some sort of liberal hedonist degenerate. Maybe you should try looking out in the countryside where people farm. I don't want to oversell religion, but I also wouldn't want to be an atheist... I think men need a shared understanding of morality and that shared understanding can only come through communion with a higher power. There are plenty of churches here that have the LGBT flags out front, I would stay clear of them, because they are just encouraging sin which is not the same as forgiving sin.
>>546248518What about honoring your mother and father? I agree with everything else. Why push away family anon?
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>>546248069You can’t answer that, typical christian honesty.Another question, would you be against issuing a death certificate for a man called jesus, or you’re indifferent either way?
>>546239856>>546240103The East is collapsing even faster, but tying your fate to a failed mythology is a false and dishonest strategy, not White. Judaism and Islam are the successful branches of the Abrahamic mythology. Christianity is the worst of them, it's the only one that irrationally demands every follower to believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day and bring billions of the dead back to life.The West needs an independent pagan religion.
>>546245862Like I said yesterday. You're mentally 13 and think that the world works like Naruto.You believe in magic, and your faggotry about kikes and being a kike-cuck is just a larp.It may be sincere, but its completely performative.You get attention from being a clown.
>>546248602"Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise"- Ephesians 6:2
>you are all of course totally depraved and irredeemable
>>546248711The world works exactly like a video game. There is hierarchy, and power, rules, and law. All according to the power you have.
>>546248653You only have accusations.Both of us know where this ends.You have infinite condemnations - none of which matter.Christ is Lord.
>>546246275>you atheists struggle with conceptsno, you theists struggle with reason.Or rather, your ability to reason is eroded, at an early age by an acceptance of arguments from authority, because all religions make appeals to being devoted to the cult ('faith') as a virtue, compared to being vindicated by facts and the evidence.Thats why you're making linguistical arguments rather than producing a god-particle, or providing a map that shows you're not a delusional clown serving a dead cult-leader.> why atheism needs to be banned from societyIf your beliefs are so fucking fragile that they are challenged by PEOPLE NOT BELIEVING YOUR BELIEFS, Perhaps you should get beliefs that are less shit,instead of trying to outlaw critical thought, you absolute fucking retard.>you will be put down on your knees Its okay pussy. We know you're just expressing your outrage about trying to reconcile your belief in magical bullshitin the face of uncompromising adult skepticismbut its time to grow the fuck upretard.
>>546239940And they abused children.The moment that I get my hands on the fucking Pope I am going to impale his ass in front of his congregation on a sharpened pole and wave him around on livestream. Take out these vermin.Anyone who supports them.Anyone not with us.Tear down every single cross.Break apart every single rosary.Melt all the bells to make cannons, swords, and guns.Bring them Hell before they get there with us.But remember. The fat bastard on the throne is mine. I want him to suffer longest, and last.Christians are to be expropriated.Massacre every nun and preacher.- END THIS STUPID GAME! -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PVq5-pJ9c0
>>546248953>adult skepticismYou are a fat idiot loser who never train in any martial arts whatsoever. You are a retard.
>>546239856>SHUT THE FUCK UP MONKEY I'M BUSY WITH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS
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no and you should flee judeo cult while you can before it eats you for jew worship
>>546248953lets hypothetically say there was a decent, upstanding, powerful, moral, just society, and it worshiped the divine creator of the universe.then, one day, it decided there is no creator of the universe, there is no one out there beyond ourselves, there is no one watching us or judging us, and the whole purpose of life is to do whatever you feel is best.then, that society completely collapsed and was destroyed within a century or two. and it kept asking "WHY?!?!? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!??! WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US?!?!?! WHY IS EVERYONE SO STUPID?!??! WHY IS THE LEFT TRYING TO DESTROY THE WEST?!?! WHY DID THEY LET THE JEWS GET ALL THIS POWER?!??! WHY ARE THEY BRINGING MILLIONS OF FOREIGNERS?!?!?! WHY DO THEY THINK MEN CAN CUT OFF THEIR DICKS AND BECOME WOMEN?!??! WHY?!??!?! WHY?!?!??! WHY?!?!??!??!"
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>You are a retard.I'm not the faggot that says he believes in fucking magic, you colossal plonker.I can't even be mad at someone who humiliates himself willingly like you >>546248994Keep maulding.I lack your insecurity and need to grovel, naruto faggot.
>>546249220You lack a brain. You worthless idiot. You are nothing but a fucking loser.
>>546249152Trying to get people to believe in something in order to save them without any proof is a failing strategy, in a situation like that they're more likely to invent something new rather than return to something they don't believe in. If you were to give them proof, though, that would change everything.
>>546248816Question is not an accusation, you’re just deflecting. But I understand that your religion is in precarious position, it must really hurt you personally, so you’ll just say anything trying to defend it.Strong values don’t need defending, proclamations, because they stand on their own.By the way, a ‘death certificate’ is not an accusation, it’s merely a statement of fact.But we all know christian modus operandi: if the facts don’t align with christian agenda, then too bad for the facts.
>>546249283like I said before if you find something to believe in that isn't christianity then fine by me. just as long as it isn't satanism. just don't be an atheist. there can be no more obvious comeuppance for the west's renunciation of religion than its immediate descent into hedonism and degeneracy and multiculturalism and incipient disintegration. this is your godless society. you turn your backs on God, you get destroyed. I don't know what you expected to happen.
>>546247014I’m not an atheist and your whole post is a hallucinated asspull
>>546239696I can do without judeo Christian westernism
>>546249351I agree with you there, I just think the world could use a reminder.
>>546249152>then, that society completely collapsed and was destroyed within a century or twoArgument from tradition?It was tradition to give babies milk fortified with phylidamide too.Some traditions are mal-adaptive.The ones that ask for 'faith' or belief in magic are a grift by the parasite class of mystics, who do no actual labor, and instead provide 'mystical services', and they fight to protect their brand from other rival parasites.>WHY IS THE LEFT TRYING TO DESTROY THE WEST?Suicidal empathy. Don't mistake the trend for the rule - I reject religion because its foreign muck.Fuck serving a sandperson, I'm patriotic.If I had to pretend in stupid bullshit, it should be local stupid bullshit, at least.>WHY ARE THEY BRINGING MILLIONS OF FOREIGNERSThats the wealthy wanting that. To drive labor down.This is the useful idiot populace and the asset owning class colluding.Blame womens 'everyone needs to eat' voting tendency.>WHY DO THEY THINK MEN CAN CUT OFF THEIR DICKS AND BECOME WOMENThe trannys are boys that grew up with shit fathers and powerful women.Serving a fucking jew is not the solution to powerful women, I don't care what you say.It is a line however- its like drugs. You gotta let people own their own bodies, because you just don't have the power to police them.You ain't that powerful, and you're just going to wind up looking despotic AND impotent."completely collapsed and destroyed" is a bit much tho doomer. Look at this internet.Look at this screen and your pc.Aren't they nice?"The world is ending! At broadband speed!"
The more they seethe, the more we believe. Christ is KING!
>>546249335Your paragraph probably sounded impressive to you as you typed it.Again, your words mean nothing.Christ is risen.May Jesus Christ, our Lord God, look upon you with mercy and forgiveness.
>>546249254Gee I wish I could be cool like you.Oh wow! His comments really affected me and didn't make him look impotent at all.Wtf I believe in magic and need to bow to powerful jewish prophets now.Somehow this doesn't seem gay to me.XDU gay, nigga.
>>546249499Uh oh! Looks like someone is about to get expropriated! Enjoy the cold, and remember: "The Devil Owns The World."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8DekFFCE5c
>>546249283My mother has seen people who were demonically possessed, people who were normal and mentally stable individuals, a petite woman gurgling out in an unmistakably masculine and irreplaceably deep resonant bass voice.
>>546249499>>546249538total and absolute depravity
>>546249440>the parasite class of mystics, who do no actual labor, and instead provide 'mystical services', and they fight to protect their brand from other rival parasitesyou sound like a hitlerite, as such you should understand that more important than ideologies and stuff like that are spirits. hitler conjured up spirits and used them to lead his nation. deeper than ideas and logic and reason are spirits.thus, you should be able to open a history book and see that for the past 1500 years, our people has had a spirit inside of it, which has departed in the past 100 or 200 years, called christianity. and you can see what men are able to do with the help of a spirit.now I can see your spirit, which is, for whatever reason, very angry and denunciatory against the spirit which your own ancestors worshiped for more than a millennium. what would they think of you? is it brave or courageous to go around putting out other peoples' fires? why don't you start your own fire instead of trampling on someone else's?
