>We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forego the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.Woodrow WilsonWe're reading chapter 16 of Logic by William Stanley Jevons.grammarhttps://archive.org/details/learningfrench00ahnfrich/page/1/mode/1uphttps://archive.org/details/ahnsmethodoflear00ahnf/page/8/mode/1uplogichttps://archive.org/details/logic01jevorhetorichttps://archive.org/details/textbookonrhetorkell00richarithmetichttps://leathalobaidi.com/projects/kiselev/geometryhttps://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/toc/1musichttps://archive.org/details/scientificbasiso00stonuoftastronomyhttps://archive.org/details/astronomy00lockuoft
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>>546259887This is what Sven really thinks of us stupid goyim:>I agree with Jews, you're hopeless cattle, all that can be done to save you is to subvert the shit out of you so you suffer.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/536435088/#536437585>I support Jewish-built extermination camps for the goyim. Fucking waste of space.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/543032395/#543032978Why does Sven keep haranguing us stupid goyim about the value of a classical education?>You fight the Jews by cultivating your intellect.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544806693And how exactly does getting a classical education help us fight the jews?>It liberates you by moving your mind into the realm of pure eternal ideas...https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544897634>The liberal education liberates by moving the mind into the realm of pure eternal ideas.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544828656/#544830584So, in summary, we goyim are stupid and deserve to be enslaved, tortured, and genocided by our jewish masters, but we can fight them by spending the rest of our lives reading textbooks on grammar and logic, thereby moving our minds into the realm of pure eternal ideas.Remember, goy: Politics is vulgar and violence is sordid. Just keep reading and re-reading primary-school French grammar textbooks while your nations are hijacked and ruined and your children are enslaved and raped. THAT'S how you REALLY fight the jews.This is nothing more than Jordan Peterson's "Clean your room, Bucko!" in a slightly different wrapping. At least Sven is more honest and explicit about his agenda. I don't think Jordan Peterson ever actually said "I support Jewish-built extermination camps for the goyim". It was merely implied in his heavily promoted gatekeeping program. But Sven comes right out and says it. No plausible deniability for him. Thanks for removing any doubt about your real motives, Sven.
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>>546259990Kill yourself, rat. This is a thread for people with more than five brain cells, so you're not welcome.
>>546259887>grandma>taste>smell
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>>546260103I like this thread, its peaceful. Well except for him.
previous chapterschapter 1https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544055711https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544055828chapter 2https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056040https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056179https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056296chapter 3https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056388https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056518chapter 4https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056659https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544056794https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544057508https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544057696https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544057888https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544057968chapter 5https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544058112https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544058294https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544054042/#544058411chapter 6https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544196720https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544196899https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197011https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197187https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197319chapter 7https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197438https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197559https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544197721https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544198388https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544198541https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544198860https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544199067https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544199184https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544199300https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544199486https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544196498/#544199652
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>>546260103Do you deny making any of those statements I quoted above? That would be pretty hard for you to get away with since you're on record as having posted them. Or are you going to try to pilpul us by claiming that your words don't really mean what everyone thinks they mean? Come on. Let's see you try to wriggle out of this one.
>>546260156Obvious OP sockpuppet is obvious.
previous chapters continuedchapter 11https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544619851https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544619898https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620000https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620034https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620096https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620149https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620202https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620245https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620361https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620404https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620475https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620539https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620618https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544619572/#544620662chapter 12https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544785892/#544785997https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544785892/#544786027https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544785892/#544786073chapter 13https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894706https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894739chapter 14https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894765https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894809https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894841https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544894660/#544894866
previous chapters continuedchapter 15https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246507https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246525https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246553https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246578https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246607https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246646https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246667https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246705https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246752https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/545246440/#545246789
>>546260238*crickets*Professor Trivium runs away. It seems he was so busy re-reading elementary German grammar books that he forgot to study rhetoric and as a result can't make arguments to defend himself.
Let's talk about Bitcoin and Black Holes 191,102,976 It's a six dimensional Hypercube also the wide band extreme of Plato’s Matrix 191,102,976 / 5184 (Nippur Cubit unit) = 36864 36864^2 = CERN Gadget Limit 1,358,954,49636864 is 192^2 and one nine two can look like 8 x 4 x 6
>>546260051He's talking about this case, about which a novel was published in 2023 and a movie in 1998.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tichborne_casehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uo1W2k_2TQhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fraudhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tichborne_Claimant_(film)
>>546260472Where do Bitcoin and Blackholes come in?As you approach the Hexeract which we discussed is191,102,976 (six dimensional hypercube)The Event Horizon of the Singularity Begins to form as the density increases towards the edges
"Great Books" = NEOCON INDOCTRINATION PROGRAMReminder that terms such as:>“classical education”>“great books”>”Athens and Jerusalem”>“virtue of the Ancients”>”glory of Western Civilization”Are all neocon dogwhistles.Straussian neocons are clearly taking advantage of the education and literacy crisis in America as a means of regrouping, especially since the Trump presidency was sabotaged and everyone views MAGA as a joke now. Neocons are weaselling their way into the education system again to indoctrinate kids and teenagers into their agenda so they will vote for neocon politicians in the near future. They talk about getting kids to study Plato, Xenophon, Aristotle, Cicero, Augustine, Aquinas, (((Maimonides))), Machiavelli, (((Spinoza))), Locke, Rousseau, etc., learn Latin and Ancient Greek at young ages, and pump their heads full of political philosophy and great literature albeit from an entirely Straussian/neocon angle loaded with Zionism and Jewish supremacy. This is all a MAJOR Trojan horse. St. John’s College and Hillsdale College (both notorious neocon hubs) appear to be ground zero for this stuff but it’s going to be spreading everywhere soon. DON’T FALL FOR IT.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oh6DmjQaho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NNEkcfxxHU https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/article-1542jsp/
>>546260674>albeit from an entirely Straussian/neocon angle loaded with Zionism and Jewish supremacy. This is all a MAJOR Trojan horse. St. John’s College and Hillsdale College (both notorious neocon hubs)Sadly, this. Studying the classics is worthwhile, but neocons are definitely trying to hijack the curriculum and put their own tendentious spin on it.
>>546260674I agree that the Great Books of the Western World book series was a fraud and psyop. You don't acquire a classical education or liberal education by buying that set, as they wanted you to believe, but rather by studying the Trivium. You need to study the Trivium to be able to understand those books. They just wanted to sell books. The gullible middle class people who bought those books just put them in the living room as a status symbol, while lining the pockets of Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.. They either didn't read them, or read them and didn't understand them. Nobody got a liberal education through them. But what's worse is that they got the opposite, because they attempted to read them, got overwhelmed and confused, and thereby got discouraged from educating themselves.
The Tesseract is where we leave Euclids prescription of elements to enter the Dimension of Time
>>546259887>geometry>https://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/toc/1I should have posted this link instead. That's where you begin. It's easy. There are also videos on youtube that explain it.https://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.1Here's a cool online tool for drawing the constructions yourself:https://www.desmos.com/geometry
>>546260674>(((Maimonides)))Here's a choice quotation from Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon's Sefer Hamitzvot (Positive Commandments)Destroying AmalekPositive Commandment 188>The 188th mitzvah is that we are commanded to wipe out — from among all the descendants of Esav — the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old.>The source of this commandment is G‑d's statement (exalted be He), "Wipe out the memory of Amalek.">We have mentioned previously the statement of our Sages, "The Jewish people were commanded three mitzvos upon entering the Land of Israel: to appoint a king, to build the Beis HaMikdash, and to destroy the descendants of Amalek."Waging war against Amalek is also a milchemes mitzvah [obligatory war].https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961562/jewish/Positive-Commandment-188.htmGuess who Amalek is today. Hint: It's us, the people of European ancestry.This explains Professor Creveld's glee at the thought of nuking all the European capitals. I wonder if OP Sven shares his glee at the prospect of nuking European capitals. Or does he prefer "Jewish-built extermination camps" as the means for "wiping out the memory of Amalek"?
>>546261375>There are also videos on youtube that explain it.a few of the videos for proposition 1:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlThlqCFeghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29U3_2PIiMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdofiH5HncU
>>546261476You're not European, braindead fucking hick, Cletus. Go jerk off and watch your monster trucks, anglophone subhuman. I thought I already told you you're not fucking welcome.
>>546261723The jews you idolize so much want to destroy Europe. And you yourself are on record as having stated that you want to see us "goyim" exterminated by them, statements you have not disavowed, even when I offered you the opportunity to do so. I will ask you again: Do you still stand by those statements?I expect you will continue to dodge this question. You don't have the guts to answer it honestly or the wit to successfully pilpul your way out of it.
>>546261945stfu and fuck off, brainlet
>>546262027>I agree with Jews, you're hopeless cattle, all that can be done to save you is to subvert the shit out of you so you suffer.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/536435088/#536437585>I support Jewish-built extermination camps for the goyim. Fucking waste of space.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/543032395/#543032978Do you deny making these statements? If not, do you now disavow them? Why are you so afraid to answer?
>>546262107*crickets*
>>546262107>>546262421*crickets*
>>546262925*crickets*
>>546262925fuck off with your off-topic spam, go watch monster trucks and jerk off, you fucking thick-skulled hick, then drink a cup of rat poison and die like the worthless rat you are
>>546263394You keep dodging those uncomfortable questions, Sven. Why are you so afraid to answer them?
ASCENDUS
>>546263561kys godless trash
>>546263441He is ascending rn, he cooms fast. He will be back with you in a jiffy.
>>546263620I am better than you
>>546263620You bring this on yourself, you know. You're a lolcow and a boring midwit with a bad case of OCD.
>>546263688Told you it wont take long
>>546263656>he cooms fastThen the guilt kicks in and he accuses everyone else of being compulsive masturbators.
>>546263727we all stuck in a loop, his is just smaller
>>546263441I'm not the fucking topic of the thread. An actual education gives you the ability to look at statements and then address those, rather than, as completely uneducated peasants like you do, see a statement, and then make associations to emotions, or the person, or previous statements, etc etc, all kinds of vague shit, and then address that, anything other than the actual thing being said. This is how the unliberated peasant mind works, the mind of the sublunar, Dionysian trash, always thinking with the flesh, rather than with the intellect. All you ever do in your spam is prove that you need education.
>>546263988Your tirade collapses instantaneously under the weight of its own performative contradiction, a textbook manifestation of the tu quoque fallacy wedded to blatant ad hominem invective.You pontificate ad nauseam regarding the putative epistemic necessity of divorcing propositions from an interlocutor's persona and affective state, yet the entirety of your screed is an exercise in visceral, unbridled spleen. By reducing your opponents to "sublunar, Dionysian trash" and "uneducated peasants," you abandon the very logocentric rigor you purport to champion, indulging instead in the exact flesh-bound emotionality you ostensibly abhor. Demanding strict adherence to propositional logic while deploying garbled Nietzschean caricature as a substitute for a syllogism is the apotheosis of intellectual dishonesty.Furthermore, your epistemology is hopelessly antiquated and naively atomistic. You posit that statements exist within an ahistorical, hermetically sealed vacuum, entirely divorced from pragmatic context, speaker intent, or prior discursive commitments. Any rudimentary acquaintance with Wittgensteinian language-games, Gricean implicature, or basic hermeneutics would disabuse you of this laughable notion. Evaluating an assertion in light of an interlocutor's established rhetorical history is not a failure of the intellect; rather, it is a vital heuristic for assessing epistemic reliability and identifying bad-faith sophistry. Ignoring the provenance and pragmatic subtext of an utterance is not the hallmark of erudition; it is the quintessence of semantic myopathy.Ultimately, your recourse to pseudo-philosophical lexemes functions merely as an apotropaic talisman to ward off scrutiny of your own vacuous argumentation. True intellect manifests in structural validity, not in the desperate affectation of aristocratic disdain designed to camouflage a profound paucity of substance.
>>546264145Nah, I have no obligation to address that troll's spam posts about me as a person or my previous posts. I made this thread, I chose the topic. None of that has fuckall to do with the topic. Kill yourself, degenerate, godless peasant. Take it or leave it. I don't fucking want you here. Go back to jerking off.
>>546263988>Strong minds discuss ideasAnd that's exactly what I was doing: discussing your ideas about the purpose of a liberal education. According to your own statements, we goyim are stupid and deserve to be enslaved, tortured, and genocided by our jewish masters, but we can fight our jewish masters by spending the rest of our lives reading textbooks on grammar and logic, which constitutes a liberal education, thereby moving our minds into the realm of pure eternal ideas and away from sordid nonsense like politics. If we just keep reading and re-reading primary-school French grammar textbooks while our nations are hijacked and ruined and our children are enslaved and raped, we win.I just wanted to make sure your premises are correct. You do want the jews to exterminate us hopeless goyim catty, right? And you do want us to keep re-reading elementary German grammar books so that we can fight the jews (who are justified in exterminating us) by contemplating pure, eternal ideas, right? So, the purpose and value of a liberal education is to make us accept our genocide with the calmness and equanimity that comes from reading grammar books over and over and over again. Have I understood you correctly?
>>546264551>cattyLOL. Cattle.
>>546264543What an exquisite, almost operatic capitulation. Having exhausted your remarkably shallow reservoir of pseudo-Aristotelian posturing, you have retreated entirely into the very gutter of hysterical, bilious invective you spent your previous missive sanctimoniously decrying. The sheer speed with which your self-styled "Apollonian intellect" dissolved into juvenile vulgarities and suicidal exhortations is a clinical marvel of cognitive dissonance.Your invocation of proprietary jurisdiction over this thread is equally laughable, betraying a profound ignorance of how public discourse operates. Initiating an utterance in an open forum confers precisely zero epistemic immunity from scrutiny; it merely establishes the initial premise upon which others are entirely entitled to dissect your glaring inconsistencies.Furthermore, the theological non sequitur of abruptly brandishing "godless" as an epithet, directly adjacent to crude onanistic allusions, suggests a mind fracturing under the strain of its own unexamined hypocrisy. You demand that others engage solely with your pristine, disembodied ideas, yet every syllable you produce is saturated with the rank perspiration of a fragile ego throwing a tantrum. By all means, continue to luxuriate in your self-appointed nobility; nothing quite broadcasts the triumph of pure reason like screaming obscenities from behind a monitor because someone noticed your syllogisms are bankrupt.
>>546264543>my previous postsWell, at least you are acknowledging that those are your statements I quoted. You don't deny them or renounce them, so we can take it that you really do want the jews to exterminate us all, but you want us to learn logic and French grammar while we calmly allow them to exterminate us.
>>546264551I said jack shit about any of that in this thread. Anything beyond this thread is off-topic. Now fuck off you uneducated fucking hick. Go jerk off, drink beer, and watch monster trucks. You're not welcome in my threads.>>546264680Didn't read. Go back to jerking off, brown fuck.
>>546264771>I said jack shit about any of that in this thread.But you have repeatedly made those statements in many of your previous threads, so we can safely assume that they are the premises that underlie all your arguments for us worthless goyim cattle to study introductory grammar and logic textbooks over and over and over and over until we are exterminated by the superior jews.
>>546264771abandoned even the pretense of dialectic, you have scraped the absolute bottom of the rhetorical barrel to deploy racial invective. Nothing quite underscores the towering supremacy of your "liberated intellect" like retreating into the primal, knee-jerk tribalism of a common bigot because three paragraphs of polysyllabic prose overwhelmed your reading comprehension.You have successfully completed the entire lifecycle of the internet charlatan: beginning with pompous lectures on pure logic, degenerating into hysterical profanity, and finally collapsing into slurs while proudly announcing you lack the stamina to read a rebuttal. Take your victory lap, champion of reason; you have thoroughly refuted yourself far more efficiently than I ever could.
>>546265220Kek. Post of the Month right there.
>>546265311Im just pulling his leg.In general. I agree with him, it would be better for anons to spend more time reading nonkiked stuff than posting, cooming and getting high and language is a fun rabbit hole. He is also on to something there. But he has such a loving pereonality I cant help it not to mess around
>>546265719>In general. I agree with himI do, too. I just find him obnoxious and ridiculous. He hurts his own case with his disastrous ethos.
>>546265936Or he is super high IQ and knows he can motivate people more with anger at him. Who knows. I like him. I get to practice
>>546265936He is doing one more coom round it seems. He gone again.
>>546266001If so, it's a hell of an act. He hasn't broken character once in these last ten or twelve years that I'm aware of. No, I think he's a mildly autistic, mildly obsessive-compulsive weirdo who latched onto a good idea and spergs out on it. The only thing he motivates people to do is make fun of him. At least he sometimes links to good books.
>>546266090It's how he relieves the stress of being constantly ridiculed. You gotta give him points for persistence. Most people would have given up by now.
>>546266090>>546266199Didn't I already say I'm not the topic of this thread? Go back to your porn, clowns. You and your shitposts are not welcome here, nor in any of my threads.
>>546266317Have a good wank, Sven? You feeling refreshed and ready for another round?
>>546266317You are entirely correct about one thing: you are no longer the topic of this thread. You have successfully demoted yourself from an interlocutor into a cautionary case study.It is genuinely comedic to watch you cling to the delusion that opening a thread on an anonymous public imageboard bestows upon you the seigneurial authority to banish trespassers from your digital fiefdom. You possess neither the institutional power nor the rhetorical competence to enforce this laughable edict.
>>546259887where are the links for smelling?