>"Men, you NEED to fight in a war to protect your country, people and values>The country's borders are open like a prostitute's legs>The people and the demographic change like diapers>The values are destroyed and replaced like a code sometimes by the same cultural sectors it should preserve and propagate.Is there a biggest scam as a military national service on a post-national world?
Nobody wants you as a solider or anything elseThat's the real blackpillYou keep yourself going by pretending that even though you're good for nothing else at least the state still values you for your fighting abilityBut the sad fact is that you're worthless
>>546271926I mean, I hope so. I live in Brazil.It is from the world's best interest that we don't fight in any conflict (at least not so much) that it doesn't affect the food supply. We are called the "World's Farmland" for a reason>>546271809And every time I think there is even more of this>"Protect your women">Women HATE when you say "our women" and in fact feel no commitment towards any national cause>"Protect your land"Most men has no houses or land to say it theirs to begin with>"We have to prevent that the other country dominate us"They already do in a way or another. Especially with things like bonds, where a country is in debt with all of the world
>>546271926Also just to complement my point. This desire to Brazil not militarize takes form into our military service that works only in defending key sectors, but most people just paint some curb and do some civil services, make some basic training, and then go home. It is from all perspectives a joke
>>546272085You best not hope soIf even your state doesn't value you then that's a very sad reflection on your objective worth as a person if such a thing existsUnfortunately even if you are conscripted most likely it's just because you caught got caught up in the system among the men the state actually wants, but you'll still share their fate or worse
>>546272296I have Aspergers, so I won't be called. It'll probably be the "Manly Men" who think they will protect their nation from the Asian/Hispanics/Muslims just to go back home see an Asian/Hispanic/Muslim as a senator or something.While doing so I'll probably immigrate to somewhere good but that I know it won't be in the eye of the hurricane, and study to get a degree in something like engineering or political science.
>>546272085>I live in BrazilYou are brazilian you don't merely live in brazil lmao
>>546272503You'll be called if necessaryIt'll never be because they want you but because they want people that you happen to be similar enough to that you fall into their category
>>546272296>>546272831Wait, now that I saw that:>"If even your state doesn't value"Why is the state trying to kill the people they value mostAnd if I'm being called, it'll be for what? It'll be basically for nothing. That's my point.Every time they tell you it is to defend something, the complete opposite of the thing you are defending end up happening.
>>546271926This is such pathetic cope lmao
>>546273141The state generally doesn't want to kill their soldiersSoldiers die but that's just the fundamental occupational hazardIf you're called then it will be for nothing, on your part, but along with whatever measure called you up there will be some who the state actually values as soldiers Remember that you're not an individual in the eyes of the state so if you're called then it's not because the state has evaluated you on your own merits but just because you're within a certain range that mandates men within that range
>>546273446>Ackshually they only drafted you because they had to!Who in their right mind gives a shit? How mentally ill are you? Did you not get the whole point of this thread is military service is pointless in the modern era? I swear to God the IQ on this board is plummeting hard - that or what you shills are pushing now is so dog shit it just sounds completely retarded to anyone with a brain.
>>546273659Of course military service is pointless to youIn the eyes of the state it isn'tI'm just telling you that this self-aggrandizing fantasy that you're very valuable in that service is just a fantasy
>>546273446>>546273797It is great your point from the eyes of state. It really explains a lot. But as you said it is only in the eyes of the state.Revert your point. In the eyes of the people, it matters? What are they fighting for? What promises they are given that were already broken or in the process of being broken?It is Ukraine all over again where men has to die for the bureaucratic stratum and the same elites that said that borders doesn't matter while the same women and feminist groups who would put you in ostracism for saying men and women aren't the same flee pretending the are just weak tradwives from the years pre-50s.
reminds me of this
>>546273797And if is just the state, and nothing changes, the decline still continues, why should I care what state is in place if they doesn't protect nothing beside themselves?At the end of the day it would just be a new management. Brazilian, Chinese, American or Russian it isn't my problem and it doesn't represent me.
>>546273797Again you have completely missed the point moron
>>546274116>>546274325If you're conscripted then it doesn't matter what you or any of your countrymen think about that because what defines conscription is that you have no choiceAs to being ruled by foreigners, maybe that's worse than your current situation or maybe it's preferable or maybe it's equivalent but that's irrelevant to the point I'm making
>>546274701You don't have a point you are just here to cry and mewl
>>546274701So I'm just meat to the grinder.>As to being ruled by foreigners, maybe that's worse than your current situation or maybe it's preferable or maybe it's equivalent but that's irrelevant to the point I'm makingBut it is relevant to the point I'm making. If it doesn't matter who rules me and nothing will change at the personal level besides the decline, then I'm fighting for nothing.
>>546275850>So I'm just meat to the grinder.Yes, in the eyes of the state you're nothing>then I'm fighting for nothingYou're not fighting now but if you will in the future then it'll likely be for nothingLuckily(?) for you nobody actually wants you to fight because you wouldn't be any good at it
>>546276296Then this war they won't even sprinkle with some excuse like:>defending your nationWill be just die for the ZOG. Great.Can't wait to kill some recruiters in case this happens.
>>546276515Remember though: they don't want you.We've been talking about what will happen if you are conscripted but as I said initially you won't beYou still haven't accepted that
>>546276644The point isn't even that that I'm trying to make. It is that there aren't any good selling point to people on the military service that hasn't been broken before or is being broken now, except maybe money. Even so, again, it is country in a post-national world pretending that is a traditional nationalist country the moment shit hits the fan, just like it is happening in Ukraine.What is Ukrainian or even Russian men earning on this war? Nothing, especially Ukraine.It is a contradiction that all economic entities that call themselves countries has to answer or they won't sell their "we have to fight X or Y" to anyone.
>>546276875Use your headYou don't sell service to slaves you just force them into itThat's what conscription is
>>546271926We get it, anon. You're depressed and angry. Very nice.
>>546277035Okay so when the moment comes I'll be prepared to blow some retard's guts who's trying to throw me in the field