I'm sorry but in white countries if you were poor you were considered to be a race of your own, and there was no race solidarity. Take for example this passage from an English periodical:>"The English poor man or child is expected always to remember the condition in which God has placed him, exactly as the negro is expected to remember the skin which God has given him. The relation in both instances is that of perpetual superior to perpetual inferior, of chief to dependant, and no amount of kindness or goodness is suffered to alter this relation" -- The Saturday Review, 1864There was never racial holism, there has always been a divide between classes. It continues to this day. That's why the upper class sits back and votes for us to be replaced, and raises not a peep in our defence. So why do we expect that a racially pure society would be any different in the future? The rich would still see us as a separate race.
All you're identifying are aristocratic and class distinctions that exist in every society.It's not like people weren't aware of racial distinctions because they were separated by class. Fucking retard.
nationalism is only something for the lower classes nowadays. the elites are all cosmopolitan. people harp on about the jews, but all elites, save perhaps the chinese ones, are globalists by nature. they have zero loyalty to any idea of culture or race or whatever identities the poor, middle class and even rich cling unto
>>546274021It’s pretty clear, we can see it with Trump. The idea is to break the class divide with racial solidarity but it just results in the rich whites holding hands with jews and flooding the underclass with niggers while pretending to be right wing
>>546274156huh? I said racial holism and racial solidarity. I didn't deny there wasn't a conception of race.>>546274191>>546274194so what's the solution? class solidarity doesn't really work since it cuts across all races
>>546274191The nuke nobody wants to accept. If this shitty board got what it wanted we'd all have shit lives but instead of their being some jews and some white people at the top its just the white people and some more sociopaths they found to replace the jews
>>546274642So what does a political response to this reality look like? racial/class solidarity where we only align ourselves with members of our class who are also our race?
for some reason golems like to think they have solidarity with the people oppressing them
>>546274840>what does a political response to this look likeI don't know. I don't think anyone does. Certainly nothing realistic. Accept things are what they are and don't go insane because of it. Things must change, but probably long after we're all dead.
>>546274460there is no solution. the people at the top are overwhelmingly dark triad personalities whose main interest is self-interest. and their self-interest is globalism ( profits). the blackpill is that society tends to reward spiritual darkness if its paired with competence
>>546274021They aren't mutually exclusive. There can be class distinction and racial solidarity. A racial civilization is mad up of several classes that are mutually dependant on each other, like different organs in the same body. The destruction of the old class systems was actually a first step on the way to our modern globohomo hellscape.
>>546275079>>546275253Hopefully we move towards a non-growth model for population. Global population growth is slowing so someone, somewhere is going to come up with the model (Japan sort of had it, but struggled with stagflation, and now is importing jeets). I'd like to see some ecological consciousness taking hold, and a kind of eco-nationalism which sees no growth or low growth as a good option, and which thinks of human ethnic groups as populations worth preserving...
>>546275435so you advocate for something more like feudalism...? certainly by the time of the industrial revolution the "organic whole" was not at all appealing if you were of the lower or working class.
>>546275253I believe that's the reason all successful civilizations eventually fall, once the psychos get too powerful and aren't sufficiently constraint in some way they fuck up the entire nation causing its decline and this inevitably happens every time due to the blackpill described in your post.
>>546275585Feudalism probably isn't possible post-industrialization, but yes I think it was the peak of human social organization. Fascist corporatism is the modern equivalent.
>>546276068what would you say to the critique of fascist corporatism that it effectively strips workers of real bargaining power?
So why didn't they enslave whites and make them pick cotton? Why did rich nobles go off to die for their race/nation? Why did people like Lord Byron abandon their cushy lives to go die in Greece fighting turkroaches? We're supposed to ignore all this because a ((((journalist)))) wrote something in a newspaper in 1864. The psyops get worse everyday.
>>546276430In England they did effectively enslave poor whites in workhouses, who de Tocqueville called a "separate race." And whites were sold in America as indentured servants.
>>546274021Yes this is another reason why Marx was right. Class trumps race.
>>546276362Fascism did away from individualized class factionalism so "bargaining" wasn't exactly necessary. Workers and employees of the same industry were regulated in a state "corporation" and official unions would negotiate with employers under supervision of the state. The state would be the final decision maker based on national interest.
>>546274021>T some talmudic source owned by talmudists.Hokay, Moshe.
>>546274974>also lbj
>>546274460Well we could try killing all brown people, jews, and rich whites all at once. Every problem solved
>>546276620ironically there is class solidarity amongst the rich, but not amongst elements of the working class, who reject class solidarity in favour of racial identity.
>>546276810that's a lot of killing...
>>546274021I’m sorry but you just made this up.
>>546276941Understandable, because within elite classes race matters little. Think about what the racial makeup of a working class neighborhood means juxtaposed to a wealthy one.Nonetheless, the wealthy populations still self segregate into ethnic neighborhoods.
>>546274021>>546276620>Class Trumps RaceThen why do you encourage niggers to hate whites?
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>>546277252I don't. also I'm not saying class trumps race. I'm saying class trumps race for most of the elite.
