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From a /pol/itical perspective, how can I keep my fiancee in line? She has always been somewhat self-centered, but ever since she got pregnant, she's really been giving me a hard time and playing games. I'm almost always a gentleman to her. No amount of logic and reason works, and I'm getting tired of this shit. It's almost like the only language she understands is violence--it's as if she wants me to beat her--but I'm a nonviolent person and I don't want to undermine my authority within the household by behaving like a power tripping mongoloid.

My top idea so far, I think, is to begin talking to other women again in order to show her that I still have options. Is there anything else I can do other than shunning her and being a prisoner in my own home to a misbehaving child? I don't want to have to go to the "man cave" while things cool off. That's more like the "cuck room". No thanks.

One advantage I have is that she came from a poor background and depends on me financially, and she will never earn as much as I do, so she has less leverage in that sense. She could leave and try to come after my assets, but I have everything in a trust already and she has agreed not to put me on the birth certificate, which, as far as she knows, could make it harder for her to leave and steal "child support" and spend it on manicures and partying. She probably can't even afford a lawyer to make any of that happen.

But I don't want it to come down to just that. How can I make her act right without being forced into demeaning, drawn out conversations where she pretends she doesn't understand what's bothering me about her childish behavior?

I've already begun working out again and my abs are once again visible, and I do get some female attention at the gym, which I've noticed does help. Is that the only workable strategy--to just be the best man I can be and make her see that she'll be losing something good if she keeps this up?
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>>546282586
Read the bible, and show what it says to her.
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>>546282659
I've been doing that.
>Proverbs 21:9 — "It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife." (Repeated similarly in Proverbs 25:24)
>Proverbs 21:19 — "It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman."
>Proverbs 27:15–16 — "A quarrelsome wife is like the dripping of a leaky roof in a rainstorm; restraining her is like restraining the wind or grasping oil with the hand."
I suppose I will have to enforce more Bible study in our household.
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>>546282586
you are having sex before marriage and pregnancy out of wedlock. your fiancee is a whore and you are a bastardizing man of low repuation
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>>546282586
maybe you shouldn't have had a child with her before thoroughly understanding her mindset
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The short answer: when women get pregnant they get "baby brain", which is hormonal changes that affect her mood and behaviour. She will get upset easier, mood swing easier, she will be more risk averse and things like this. Even when you factor in "but she's a woman, of course women are like this" - they get MORE like this once there is a baby growing inside her. It's just mother nature's way of ensuring that the baby is going to grow/thrive so the woman is just more alert and prone to emotions.

When you "talk to other women" you are teaching her it's "okay" to do this (for her to talk to men).

The best example is where a buddy of mine saved his marriage. He had been a retard and took on extra debt to extend the house, project ran over, and so there was financial strain. He earned enough that his wife didn't have to work, and he didn't want her to go back to work. But as you can imagine with his position as "bread winner" and source of stability in jeopardy, his wife got more cunty (purely on instinct here). Marriage in trouble, I told him to just get second job, like on weekends, just to put a dent in the debt.

He found a job in the evenings as a bartender. One time the wife came to collect him, and she saw there were two women that were very friendly with him, laughing and joking. On the ride home she basically said "I want you to quit that job. I don't mind going back to work. We'll make this work." So the short of it is, with him focused on his work and this house project etc, his wife then wondered (when he hit a bump in the road financially) if he was even worth the same "value" when she married him (i.e. if he'd sharply declined). That's where the cuntiness comes from, resentful that she's making the "wrong choice" or feeling "dragged down" by being married to a guy that she thinks is lowering in value. You as a man just need to show that you've not just got the financials but also that other women want you. That's it. The women immediately change.
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>>546282586
Historically proven; Women demand maintenance.
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>>546283170
I see contradictions in this post. I understand your friend's situation and I think that was the right move. But I don't think getting attention from other women cues the one you're with to talk to other men--I think it leads to her seeing the man as more valuable due to the inherent social approval of him being pursued by other women, which seems to be what you're describing toward the end of your post. I don't let her talk to other men and I'm clear in my expectations and mindset regarding that.
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>>546283170
>You as a man just need to show that you've not just got the financials but also that other women want you. That's it. The women immediately change.
Maybe I misunderstood but this is certainly true and I'm trying to incorporate this more into my lifestyle.
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>>546283042
the ideas presented in this post cannot be discounted
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>>546283170
I cant tell who lies more nowadays, jews, paddys, or jeets.
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>>546283380
>>546283042
>>546283191
We're getting married in the eyes of God soon
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>>546283170
>work yourself to death to keep jestermaxxing for a sloppy hole
Or you can literally beat THE WHORE SOUL out of her and keep chilling and put the jews who write un-Godly family laws to cuck you in concentration camps.
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>>546283492
ok well i am just warning you of the dangers of having children without marriage. maybe on a superficial unconscious level your soon to be wife is acting extra cunty because she knows she doesnt have a committed source of support for the child she will be having
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>>546282586
This post is more jewish than the Talmud.
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>>546283758
>ok well i am just warning you of the dangers of having children without marriage. maybe on a superficial unconscious level your soon to be wife is acting extra cunty because she knows she doesnt have a committed source of support for the child she will be having
True, we will marry. You are right
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>>546283884
If it works
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>>546282586
Judging from your flag you're probably a filthy mexican like the rest of us, but I'll assume that you're white and talking about a white woman. I know that's an incredibly bold assumption, but I'm going with it.

In that case, either become a stupid, violent nigger who beats her and thinks it's bitch fun and funny to do so (this is what white women secretly crave) or get yourself a non-white fiancee. Those are your two options. I highly suggest a non-white fiancee if you are white, such as an asian, because even though they're bugwomen who all look the same, they love white men and think niggers are disgusting, which is exactly the opposite of white women. Good luck, anon.
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>>546282586
>getting married
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>>546282586
From a /pol/itical perspective, you literally can't. This is why marriage is collapsing in the West as an institution. You basically have to hypnotize her at this point (via red-pill gaslighting tactics, you know the usual miserable stuff).
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>>546282586
What’s her and your race. If she’s white you’ve had it coming for you, esp if you’re a shitskin
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>>546284347
Yeah we are both white. I do smack her around during sex and she does enjoy it but I'm not always proud of that the next day. I want to establish a healthy dynamic through which we can address the day to day challenges of life as a productive team.
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>>546282586
Ignore Andrew Tate behaviour.
Follow this one, worked for me perfectly.
Don't overshare it.
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>>546284614
I'm reluctant to take relationship advice from someone who spams underage anime girls, even if they are 3000 years old in the story
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I’ve been with my wife for 10 years now. We met in high school, and I got her pregnant. She is and always has been a lazy person and shit cook. I wouldn’t even mind eating shit food if she at least made it on time. But she rarely did.

We’d get into screaming arguments constantly about how lazy and worthless she was. I felt like an asshole for it, but goddamn she was a real piece of work. The only reason I dealt with this was for the kids, and also because the sex was great.

But one night I got fed up. Not only did she get drunk, neglect the kids, and made me Top ramen for dinner, but she decided to give me attitude too. She was being real fucking bitchy. So I told my parents to keep an eye on the kids and told my wife we were going to go out and have dinner together. I drove maybe 3 blocks to a quiet area (we live in Oregon, it’s not hard to find a quiet field) and I got out of the car, and I beat the shit out of her while she was still seatbelted. After a few punches, I asked her if she wanted to go back to her parents. She started screaming and yelling and said yes, so I beat the shit out of her again. Then I asked her what she wanted to do. She finally got smart and said he wanted to go home. So I took her home and dared her to start trouble. I even handed her my cellphone and dialed her mom’s phone number on the drive home. I made her talk to her mom, while daring her to fucking say something.

Before that incident, I never laid a hand on her. But I had always threatened it. I told her “one of these days, if you don’t straighten up, I’m going to lay hands on you”.

All my meals have been on time, and she just recently tried to make a meatloaf. It was mediocre, but I was just thrilled that she tried.

Do with this information what you will.
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>>546284560
>trying to rationally explain something to a woman, rejecting violence and remaining white
Sorry fren, ngmi
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>>546282586
>No amount of logic and reason works
yeah no shit. if you think logic and reason is going to win any arguments with your woman you are going to have a rough life.

keep your cool and dont ever match her emotional level
try not to be mad at her
tease her and treat her like a child/brat when she acts like one.
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>>546284670
Then don't?
You're not taking water out of my mill.
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>>546284160
You need to dive really deep within yourself and see if you can find anything redeemable. You talking about keeping your name off your kids birth certificate is one of the most depraved things I’ve read on /pol/. Women can be an illogical pain in the ass, but you’re struggling because you’re a bad person with bad motives. I would guess the woman you’re with is also pretty shitty, but everything wrong you posted is about you.
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>>546284702
I read this pasta aloud and she burst into laughter once I got to
>All my meals have been on time,
I think she's a good girl deep down
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>>546284614
>the fault lies entirely with you!
Of course it does.

So tired of boomer advice. The only thing in here of any value is if you don't like dogs don't get one in the first place. That makes sense. The problem is that nobody likes women, if they're being honest with themselves. You like the pussy and you put up with the woman to get it.
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>>546284840
>You talking about keeping your name off your kids birth certificate is one of the most depraved things I’ve read on /pol/.
not signing some government form is one of the most "depraved" things you've read on the board titled Politically Incorrect? people really leak out of TikTok and come here and think they can concern troll like this
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>>546284560
Boohoo
Spoiler: It won't last. Herbs.
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>>546282586
>One advantage I have is that she came from a poor background and depends on me financially
That is not your advantage, it's your problem. Never marry a woman who comes from poverty. They see you as their meal ticket and treat you as such. Ever have a job you couldn't quit because it kept a roof over your head? That's you when you marry a poor bitch. You're her "job." Marrying a rich bitch also has it's crippling downsides btw. They know daddy's money is waiting to bail them out of any problem in life so they usually turn into turbowhore party girls as a result. Just complete pieces of shit. Poor bitches can go either way (loyal or slut) but they will always end up resenting you and your more well-off family one way or another. The poor bitch my brother married started flipping the nice toys my parents got their kid on Facebook marketplace after just a few months. They don't get him nice stuff anymore because the bitch is just gonna hock it. Poor people suck. Middle class women are the only ones worth wifing up. A girl who grew up knowing what struggle could be but didn't spend every second steeped in it. That's the way to go.
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>>546282586
op is a poopjeet go kys shitskin jamboy faggot ass
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>>546284560
That’s what you get for putting up with whitu roasties, the most entitled foid race on earth
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>>546284560
White roasties are as a group attracted to abusive men, fully lean into it or you’re condemned to „docile“ gooks in the future, but then they usually don’t like people with „baggage“
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>>546282586
Everyone of my friends has gotten or is getting divorced in the last year or so. While everyone was pumping and dumping these whores you invested and now left hag holding.
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>>546282586
tickle her
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>>546286844
I don't care about that anymore, I just want my kid to have a mother and a good childhood. She does cook and clean.
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>>546282586
Her hormone is disrupted by pregnancy, you will have to evacuate what kind of a person she is after giving birth and settle down.
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>>546282586
>One advantage I have is that she came from a poor background and depends on me financially, and she will never earn as much as I do, so she has less leverage in that sense.

you are a fiend.
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>>546282586
How pregnant is she? They change a lot depending on the timeline and circumstances
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>>546287004
Stop acting like a wimp
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>>546282586
My wife and I have foursomes with other couples and it is great. We talk to couples who are similar to us and we meet up. If they seem normal in person we invite them over and we engage in nudity and sexual activity.

My wife really loves knowing that I’m ok with other guys getting to pleasure her sexually. I love fucking other women in front of my wife. It is the best when everyone’s on the same page and enjoying sex with each other.

Don’t marry a woman who is unwilling to share you with another man’s wife. If she sees you fucking another woman and enjoys it, marry her as she’s a keeper.
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>>546287395
dude is soo far behind and said every cuck stereotype ever, leave her. prisoner in my own home, its like she wants me to hit her, talk to other bitches to make her jealous, at least shes poor and relies on me, pretends not to understand, etc... like holy shit
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>>546282586
Asking the sexless retards on here for marriage advice is your first mistake.

She’s bringing a living soul from the Otherworld into this one. It’s only natural her higher self is going to test you for what kind of puny weakling of a man you are. Be a warrior and hold your shit together.

Only niggers lose self control and act violently towards women. Her ‘responding’ to it does not make it the solution. Women respond to all sorts of retarded gay shit. Live your life based around what women respond to and see where that fucking lands you.
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From a /pol/itical perspective, how can I keep my MOM in line? She has always been somewhat self-centered, but ever since she got pregnant, she's really been giving me a hard time and playing games. I'm almost always a gentleman to her. No amount of logic and reason works, and I'm getting tired of this shit. It's almost like the only language she understands is violence--it's as if she wants me to beat her--but I'm a nonviolent person and I don't want to undermine my authority within the household by behaving like a power tripping mongoloid.

My top idea so far, I think, is to begin talking to other women again in order to show her that I still have options. Is there anything else I can do other than shunning her and being a prisoner in my own home to a misbehaving child? I don't want to have to go to the "man cave" while things cool off. That's more like the "cuck room". No thanks.

One advantage I have is that she came from a poor background and depends on me financially, and she will never earn as much as I do, so she has less leverage in that sense. She could leave and try to come after my assets, but I have everything in a trust already and she has agreed not to put me on the birth certificate, which, as far as she knows, could make it harder for her to leave and steal "child support" and spend it on manicures and partying. She probably can't even afford a lawyer to make any of that happen.

But I don't want it to come down to just that. How can I make her act right without being forced into demeaning, drawn out conversations where she pretends she doesn't understand what's bothering me about her childish behavior?

I've already begun working out again and my abs are once again visible, and I do get some female attention at the gym, which I've noticed does help. Is that the only workable strategy--to just be the best man I can be and make her see that she'll be losing something good if she keeps this up?
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>>546287395
>>546287564
What am I supposed to do, beat her?
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>>546287539
>jeets spamming their sissy porn
Fuck off, ramamandeep
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>>546287539
You let other men fuck your wife? The extra side woman doesn't seem worth it. Why not just have threesomes with females?
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>>546284560
" a productive team "
That's what went wrong. You aren't a team, you are the man and you lead. This is what women also want. If she starts acting cunty but you can't exactly pinpoint what it is just tell her she's acting cunty and has an aggressive energy. Earlier you used words like demeaning, that's also something you can tell her you can't accept in a marriage. Women absolutely know what they're doing when they start this shit. Grab her arm firmly tell her to get to the point or shut up.
Remember, women know a year in advance they're getting a divorce, men about a week. They spend that time racking up grievances they dont communicate which leads to such a long list of issues you can't fix it. If you start talking to other women and you aren't careful about it, that's going on the list and she'll divorce rape you. Quash the mind games immediately and don't accept the premise that she can nag you like that in the first place.
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>>546288807
You're right and I do understand leadership and that she's not my equal in this situation. But how do I reject "the premise that she can nag" me? I can be unresponsive and increase distance between us but I'm not sure what other strategies I can really employ.
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>>546289023
You're just starting to understand yet another one of the many layers of jewish control over white men, which also segues into their racemixing plans. Allow me to explain.

In the old days of man like Sean Connery or your grandpa, you would just slap her across the face if she crossed the line and nobody had the right to say anything (assuming you didn't break the skin, break bones or leave a big ass bruise). Men could discipline their wives just like children or dogs, as it should be. Now, ZOG has stripped that right from you. Not only can you not put your hands on a woman ever (even when it comes to self-defense, as a practical matter), but if you even raise your voice to her (or if she lies and says you raised your voice), you'll still get arrested by a zogbot. Sure, you'll get bailed out and the charges will be dropped but you've learned your lesson haven't you.

The only men who avoid this are men who don't care about going to jail. That's your basic white criminal or most black/shitskin men, you enjoy the privilege of not only lacking a prefrontal cortex but also having nothing to lose, so they laugh in the face of zogbots even though it's subjectively foolish to do so. As a result, this makes white women's panties wet because they're the only men who still put hands on them, which materially supports the massive uptick in racemixing. Jews are very clever.

To;dr. We are all fucked until TKD/TND. Boomer tier advice, like much of the crap in this thread, is useless. Simple as.
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>>546288307
new squads now forming
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>>546282586
pregnant women get cunty, it's just a phase
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>>546289598
Beating them is illegal and I don't feel like going to jail so I'll explore other strategies first
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>>546289770
You're such a clueless wimp. You're doomed to failure, and white men like you are basically why we're in this position, unfortunately. I'd tell you good luck but everybody can see that you're hopeless, unless this is a troll thread in which case well done, faggot. I'm out.
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>>546290320
>not a single suggestion or proposed alternative
butthurt
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>>546282586
Not sure if real post but you are in for a doozy for the first 3 weeks post partum. They get extra nuts.
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>>546289770
Stop speaking like a plebbitor, first. Then maybe „your“ wife will start respecting your agak.
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>>546290320
I'm trying to figure out how to jailbreak a local LLM so I can ask it for creative strategies to keep her in line. That may be Reddit, but at least I'm trying. I've heard that soap in a sock is pretty good. Wish me luck.
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