>>20627848
Vegetarian?

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this is exactly what everybody wanted in a wrestling game and I can't understand why it flopped

>>20627848
kek what a shit game for retards

>>20627848
current Steam status?

>>20627848
Where's the next one?

The game is legit fun, then again this board plays the retard simulator fire pro.

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>>20628051
Wrestling fans want baseball in their wrestling games.

>>20629145
>fun
The game was hollow in content, the controls were clunky, the glitches were hilarious and the AI was retarded. There was no reason to make a modern day No Mercy without a famous roster other than nostalgia.
No Mercy worked because it's all we had at the time and the controls were limited because the hardware was limited. Despite all that No Mercy was still better than this shit.

>>20628051
>Penta
wtf

>>20629201
Tony stuck had him in a heatless tag team in AEW then did nothing with him. Another blunder.

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>>20627848
This was unironically better

>>20629196
You're retarded No Mercy is still better than anything that has come out since

>>20629196
dumbass, NM was a good game with great gameplay while FF tried to copy it without knowing how NM worked internally

>>20629389
>No Mercy
That's the exact same game as Fight Forever but you hate FF so fuck off back to /v/

>>20627848
they should just get capcom to make a new saturday night slammasters game and just have aew wrestlers in that, Kenny is in SF6 and it's gigadimes there so it could work

>>20629145
>The game is legit fun
Why are you lying? Everybody knows Flop Forever isn't fun which is why nobody plays it. You're trying to talk shit about Fire Pro but even its dogshit gameplay is better.

>>20630719
>pretending No Mercy and Flop Forever are anything alike
kek 10/10 bait

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MAKE WAY FOR THE KING

>>20630726
>they should just get capcom to make a new saturday night slammasters game and just have aew wrestlers in that

dumbest idea ever, that would flop even harder than FF and capcom would just laugh at AEW for even approaching them with such a retarded pitch
if AEW wants to make a game that sells well (won't get close to 2K slop but won't gigabomb either), next time (lol) carefully copy No Mercy instead of just remember how it played when you are developing it
I bought FF for a few bucks, extremely cheap, and it is crystal clear why it flopped, the gameplay sucks. it fails at being arcade and it fails at being No Mercy. it also doesn't let you create your fav wrestlers so not even AI vs AI matches are worth doing. it is a fucking joke
this pos has been discounted many times and still nobody buys it because it fucking sucks
Kenny is an idiot, Tony is a rich idiot and Yukes scammed him

>>20629196
>uhhhh No Mercy is bad because... it's old!
Fuck off.

>>20631016
>carefully copy No Mercy instead of just remember how it played
And that's the difference. It's a bunch of fans going off how they remember it, instead of what it actually was. Half of the things No Mercy has, aren't even in the game. I'm talking basic gameplay elements, like
>outside apron grab > ram guy's head into turnbuckle.
>rear grapple > dooms day device
Basic, basic stuff.

>>20631034
Daily reminder that Tony literally could've just hired the No Mercy devs and had them build an AEW wrestling game based on No Mercy's actual fucking sourcecode updated with modern graphics, online multiplayer, and hyper autistic CAW features, but instead he hired the corpse of Yuke's who instantly realized he's a money mark and spent more time swindling him than they spent actually developing the game.

>>20628051
>>20629159
Surprised we didn't get many more memes out of this disaster

A decent but lackluster first effort. They'd probably do better if they made a sequel

>>20631233
Tony is already bleeding money and about to get his t.v show cancelled. I think another game is not in the cards.

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>>20631228
It'd be like making memes out of pic related. Sure it wasn't good, but who are you drawing in with dunking on it?

>>20631228
the game is so pathetic nobody bothered to make memes, not even AI slop

must have installed this shit 10 times then deleted again after 30 mins, it really is absolute dogshit. kenny osmegma is a retard

>>20631426
I wonder who worked who? Yukes worked Kenny or Kenny worked Tony

>>20631544
There are rumors of Yukes hating working with Kenny, but the game was entirely made by Yukes and it was fucking broken, so I think it was a combination of Yukes being a dogshit studio, Kenny being an absolute brainless retard and Tony a fag for not stepping in and demanding big changes. Tony lost money, Kenny was exposed as a retard and Yukes lost a multiyear contract. Nobody won. Meanwhile, 2K keeps putting out absolute slop every year with no competition.

Any of you guys make old prowrestlers for any of these games?
>Ex: Andre The Giant CAW

>>20631677
no, I prefer to play over adjusting sliders

>>20632935
then why was the first thing everyone who purchased Fight Forever did was create WWE wrestlers complaining on /asp/ about a shitty CAW system

why are trannies obsessed with that old ass nintendo game
get over it holy shit

>>20628051
God forbid a game developer tries something new

>>20628051
Just saw some clips on youtube and it perfectly sums up AEW in a nutshell. Its gay, lame, and fucking retarded.

It doesn’t get better than VPW2 and the AKI mods.

>>20634606
many wrestling game fags buy the games to watch ai matches and sim shit, they don't like playing them, quite embarrassing but this is a fake sport after all, but it is a fact the caw system is pathetic

>>20631544
Yuke's told Kenny to fuck off because he wasn't the one paying them. Then they conned Tony by intentionally slow walking development so he'd keep giving them millions of dollars while barely working on the game and probably outsourcing most of it to pajeets. The way they fleeced him needs to be studied.

>>20634746
minigames before having a good game/engine?
exactly, beyond retarded
imagine how many hours they could have spent on fixing the dumbass AI, glitches or caw instead

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>>20627848

>>20635988
^It's this. Doesn't do much for Yukes, though. Nobody's gonna trust them now, for acting like scammers.

>>20629389
Making a terrible attempt at remaking a 20+ year old game is the problem. People would be dunking on FF7 remake if it had worse controls, less content and a different cast of characters while trying to mimic the original game instead of branching out and improving the gameplay.
i'd rather play No Mercy with mods, it's the same core game without fucking up the original.

>>20631033
FF is terrible because they tried to copy a clunky N64 game without copying it effectively. The clunky controls of No Mercy was salvaged by the awesome gameplay, FF copied the clunky controls with shoddy gameplay.

>>20636201
Yuke's was a shadow of it's former self before they started fight forever. WWE was about to drop them as developers (Yuke's couldn't modernize their fossil messy engine) so instead of building up a respectable name they decided to con a billionaire out of his money, they did the right thing.

>>20636191
>imagine how many hours they could have spent on fixing the dumbass AI, glitches or caw instead
Ancient legacy code doesn't bode well for modern consoles. When they tried to keep up with the times the engine shit the bed.

>>20636272
No Mercy wasn't clunky at all

flop forever

>>20636257
FF7 remake is a piece of shit

>>20627848
Tried but I couldn't even make a character without frame drops in the fucking menu, what a mess

>>20629389
No Mercy was never good, that's the true redpill of Fight Forever. It's the Shenmue 3 of Wrestling games.

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>>20636303
it's legitimately insane that the dug up some guy who hasn't made a console game since since the wii to direct this shit. really is a wonder why it was a glitchy mess.

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>>20627848
Am I the only person who enjoyed this game? I mean it wasn't WCW/NWO Revenge or Fire Pro but it was nice to have a modern wrestling game that (kinda) used that Yukes engine.

I'd like them to take another crack at it, eschew the mini-games, and just make a new Fire Pro Wrestling game with AEW skins and I'd even pay for CMLL, NJPW, DDT, and Stardom expansions.

>>20638663
Looking at their player counts and reviews, yeah, you probably are.

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nah this game was good actually pic related

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Still play this on Switch and whenever someone on the game's roster wins a championship, I fire it up and put that belt on them. I never could get into WWE's 2K games but FF kind of reminds me of WCW World Tour and Revenge which were my jam back in the day.

>>20627848
Got it for $15 got a good few hours of fun out of the game. Would have been a nice weekend rental back in the day. The DLC should have been free however.

>>20638703
>backfire on Danhausen
just like aew fans talking shit

>>20638663
It was cool for a few hours and that’s about it

>>20638703
this, the bomb, the skateboard, the minigames, Stadium Stampede, the writing in Road to Elite, all cringeworthy shit a bunch of boomers thought was cool but it wasn't at all

>>20629227
>Road Warriors and some jobbers

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>>20640654
You got to level up if you said your CAW was a vegan
Surprised there weren't "Support Trans Kids" signs in the crowd but then again the graphics are so shitty you wouldn't be able to tell

>>20636201
>Contract with WWE is about to finish
>Instead of ending things amicably, they fucking take all their assets during the middle of 2k20s development, leaving the upcoming team to work from scratch and creating the shitshow that was that year’s game
>Yuke’s employees proceed to shit talk WWE and state how glad they are to fleece-er, work with an up and coming brand like AEW
You can hate WWE all you want, it’s still fucking stupid to work with known traitors.

>>20641471
daddy pays the bills, he doesn't care

>>20628051
say what you will about the game but they at least were hyper accurate with AEW's crowd

>>20643129
We're below Concord levels

WWE shamelessly releases the same slop every year, why didn't AEW try again with a sequel that fixed all the crap from FF?

>>20643343
Tiny sunk AAA levels of daddy's money into what's essentially an indie game.

>>20644385
I bet Tony himself still pays to keep the servers up

>>20636633
No mercy had slow down in rumbles.

>>20628051
>only Jack Perry is still on the roster
lol

>>20638746
based Revenge chad. I don't feel any similarity at all to FF with the N64 AKI games and think FF is garbage, but I'll always love to run through a 40 man rumble or Championship run in Revenge.

>>20644406
Never played No Mercy but:
Revenge > WM 2000 in competiveness. You or the opponent could always come back from the brink of death to win with luck. 2000 Russo'd the matches.

WM 2000 > Revenge only in the fact that CaW was a thing.

>>20644042
I still believe Tony wanted Punk's help to loosen the Elite's hold over the company but their infestation in every aspect of AEW was just too much for Punk to overcome since Tony wasn't going to be any help (spineless paki)

>>20645592
I bought the game to troll underage AEWfags online but they'd never turn on the voice chat. Found out via reddit that AEW fans were getting bullied so much that Yukes helped remove the feature.

>>20646504
If the game is so fun why is nobody playing it?

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all games that try to copy No Mercy either suck balls or are a massive scam, pic very related

I've tried it and it just looks unfinished as fuck. Like it's been made by a single dev who dropped the project midway. Also all the Elite propaganda was nauseating.

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>>20646504
>8 in game

>>20647046
I like the mod that came out for Revenge recently called Starrcade

>>20647323
I'll never forget Angry Joe and McMuscles shilling the aew game. Wonder how much the check was.

>>20647330
that's not a new game

>>20647363
>new moves
>new wrestlers
may as well be

>>20646504
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

*Takes a deep breath "

PFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>20628051
>Nyla
Hey looks it's that one anons favorite wrestler

>>20627848
Yukes took $100 million from Tony and didn't spend it on the game kek

>>20647046
Starting to believe No Mercy suffers from the same nostalgia trap as Ocarina of Time: it was considered the greatest thing ever by fans who played it as kids, but if you replay it today, it hasn’t aged nearly as well as people remember

>>20651618
as someone who never played NM back in the day, I think it plays great, the momentum system is kino, the controls just work, the AI is surprisingly competent and overall is a pretty good game, but the dumbasses who want to copy it always make retarded changes that ruin it, or build an awful engine and then no matter what they add to the game, it will always play like shit

>>20651618
OoT is still the greatest game ever made and you have broccoli on your head.

>>20647046
People can decompile No Mercy into sourcecode and literally see how it works. Why nobody can successfully copy it is a fucking mystery.

>>20651618
Incorrect. Modern wrestling games are terrible and they only keep getting worse, so No Mercy just keeps aging better and better and mogging slop like Flop Forever and 2k26 harder and harder.

>>20651826
Mogged by Majoras Mask and Wind Waker

>>20651919
>People can decompile No Mercy into sourcecode and literally see how it works
Nobody has done that yet and that's what Kenny should have suggested to do instead of creating Stadium Stampede. Having a decompiled aki engine would have been a smart and relatively cheap investment.

>>20627848
I saw pictures of this game being in the bargin bin after 2 weeks.

>>20629196
Their first mistake was remaking No Mercy, instead of the massively superior Here Come The Pain.

>>20652663
Hctp is too fast with no thought put into its gameplay at all. Strong moves can be spammed right from the beginning, most strikes barely do any damage, can't drag standing opponents, everything is super easy to counter, removed features from SYM. Overrated piece of shit.

>>20652689
filtered

>>20652740
low iq

>>20652859
sybau

>>20638703
BASED! can't wait for this feature in the 2k games.

>>20627848
Everything related to AEW is dead

>>20655067
>Everything related to AEW is dead
And lame. And gay.

>>20643343
>why didn't AEW try again with a sequel that fixed all the crap from FF?
Because Flop Forever was a massive bomb and lost them millions of dollars. A big reason why AEW still can't turn a profit is because of how much money Tony sank into AEW Games.

>>20638703
Some good ideas (being able to put OC's hands in pockets and still wrestle), don't make it a good game. It's above games like WCW Nitro, and WWF Attitude, might even be better than the first Smackdown. But that's not saying much.

It's such a dogshit game.
CAW is barebones as fuck, and the moveset selection is such a slog since there no categorization, just a huge list.

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>>20627848
Kenny and Co. didn't make this game for the fans, they made it for themselves because they've never been in a videogame before.

And that is why they fail.

>>20655861
That part

>>20655101
We know it bombed hard but now they have the engine. With just one more year of work they could fix everything wrong with it and then it would be a good game. Instead they gave up before the finish line and not even mods can save it due to big engine flaws and bad design. Fight Forever is not even a beta, it is an alpha and you can't expect an alpha to sell well, unless it is Pokemon or WWE slop.

>>20638746
>>20647046
hmmmm. Interesting. The replaced Nash with a black

>>20657179
the game won't ever exist anyway

Everything that Tony Kwab gets involved with turns out be be a failure.

>>20628051
did they release this during blm or something?

>>20658908
Alfredo

Tony fumbles so badly Punk made his debut shortly after this games release.

>>20628051
This is what he's defending? Grim

Man an AEW game had potential i wanted a WWE 2K but with AEW skins not this garbage. what a shame

>>20661734
What potential?

>>20662441
Kenny said it would be the next No Mercy, that's a lot of potential

>>20631228
Because nobody actually played it.

>>20663312
Who gives a fuck what Kenny says?

>>20661734
Just buy the latest WWE 2K game. AEW marks pretend they don't play WWE games, but Community Creations is FULL of AEW wrestlers, belts, arenas, everything you need to make an AEW game via Universe Mode.

>>20665267
all wwe games after svr 2011 are slop

>>20629121
2 players

>>20661197
It kills Tony that he's stuck with the Elite instead of his favorite Punk Toy

>>20667282
He knows he fucked up.

>>20627848
I remember when this game came out AEW was giving away thousands of free keys on social media

>>20627848
Haha good post haven't laughed so much in days haha

>>20669308
Was thinking the same thing

MODS why has this clearly astroturfed thread been allowed to stay up for a week?

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>>20671000
Please be patient. You wasted 3 years of /asp/ hyping this game and when it failed + sucked you gave NO APOLOGY.
I think you owe us a day or two.

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>>20671349
>PS5
are you fuckin kidding me? that shit looks worse than Tecmo World Prowrestling

>>20671000
seething

>>20671338
Lol I was looking for this

>>20665267
>AEW marks pretend they don't play WWE games, but Community Creations is FULL of AEW wrestlers
That party

He's going to be so mad after this bump

>>20672479
is he really?

>>20627848
How many players currently online?

>>20673070
0 and a bunch of losers leaving the game on 24/7

>>20672479
Based!

>>20673889
You know it!

bump

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I guess AEW is secretly making a new game of some sort but won't announce it because that's why "Fight Forever" failed cause they had 3 years to make it I guess?

>>20677461
Who would make it? What would you want to see in it?

>>20677464
I want a real No Mercy inspired game but done fucking right this time, not something that reminds you of No Mercy when you see it but when you play it you realize it fucking blows
just do that and for the third game they can start adding more shit

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>>20677464
Idk I'm not a gamer. What I am though is a truth finder. Kenny Omega robbed the money mark and the aew fans. What they don't know that back in Japan, Kenny was known as "Sunshine Boy", he would carry bags and suck chinese cocks. Not too different then what Amy Dumas did in Mexico.

>>20677472
Amy and her titties are over with me

>>20677464
>Who would make it? What would you want to see in it?
I'd want AKI(or Syn Sophia or whatever they're calling themselves now) to make it and I'd want it to literally just be No Mercy but updated to 2026 standards(except in terms of gameplay because that's already perfect and doesn't need to be fucked with). It'd be a commercial failure because nobody's going to touch another AEW game after Flop Forever but at least it'd be good.

>>20677492
gameplay is not perfect

>>20677492
Why didn’t they do this in the first place? Or were they too much money to get?

>>20677495
Lies detected

>>20677496
>were they too much money to get?
That's the rumor that was going around. Allegedly they wanted 1.5 milly or something like that Yuke's was "cheaper".

>>20677510
not a lie

It’s the animation frames. They don’t use as many animation frames in fight forever so the moves look quick and choppy. In fact I tried playing 2k games for years but something was always off with those also. Then I looked at the razors edge animation from all games and realized no mercy had the best and smoothest one still. For those saying “itS just noStAlgiA” no. Your retarded it literally has smoother animations then all games in its genre for the last 30 years.

>>20677653
handmade animations at 30fps (NM) will look more impactful than shitty mocapped animations at 60 (2K), and even worse if they are sped up to make gameplay faster (FF)

>>20627848
Add this to Tony's fumble list

>>20677492
>I'd want it to literally just be No Mercy but updated to 2026 standards
What does that even mean? You want it woke as fuck?

>>20677653
Basically, it's laziness.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1913210

>>20679469
Tony is the permanent KWABOTY

WHAT THE FUCK IS SO FUNNY

I'm going to buy a copy

>>20671338
Lmfao

He's so fucking mad holy shit he's breaking down in real time

>>20627848
Rumours are that Tony put $100 million into this game and no one bought it.

>>20682625
Just buy keys now for when it gets delisted from every storefront. At that point you'll be able to sell them for ten times as mu- ah who am I kidding
>>20677492
Was AKIs last game not Style Saavy on DS? Weird turn for that studio. I'm buying that new Sonic racing game it's on sale now, I already have Wrestling Empire

>>20677492
The people who made the N64 games are not there anymore. Studios aren't monoliths, people come and go and as >>20682645 noted the games they make now are extremely different. It's likely Syn Sophia doesn't even know how to make a game like that anymore.

how come Kenny the "gamer" (fighting games are bottom of the barrel trash) wasn't able to make a good game?

>>20682873
I heard he has aids

>>20683513
He has diverticulAIDSass

>>20683569
kek

>>20682789
This. It was nearly 30 years ago. The AKI wrestling teams aren't there anymore besides maybe a few in high level positions now and the studio is in no way equipped to make a game like that. Yukes really was the only option if you wanted to do something similar desu. They got the original director of the AKI games but he was retired and only agreed to come on as a consultant and Yukes seemed to ignore a lot of his input anyway.

>>20627848
Played this on Switch 2. It's kinda fun for an hour or two. No idea what they were thinking with those mini games and the career path though. I got very bored and felt like I'd seen all the game had to offer after an hour.

>>20684302
if the CPU wasn't completely retarded and reversing wasn't so easy, it would be a decent game even with the worst caw suite ever, but these motherfuckers just gave up on it the day after launch, not a single patch that fixed anything meaningful
only scummy DLCs and that pos Stadium Stampede that for some reason wasn't ready day 1
fuck Kenny Osmegma, fuck Pukes and fuck THQ nerdic

>>20684302
>Switch
Faggot

Anyone have the screenshot where it was 0 players playing?

>>20687345
No but I've seen it. Legend has it that Tony has set up phantom players (bots) to make it appear there's always a few live players online.

>>20687613
Hopefully someone finds it

>>20684294
Messed up Yukes WWE games always sucked since Smackdown on the PS1. Rumble Roses was based however.

>>20687613
if you are going to do such a pathetic thing, at least create 50-100 bots, not 5-10

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>>20665252
I mean, he's... he's Kenny Omega, man.

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>>20687345

>>20688262
Even the sickos hated the game

>>20689189
I felt very dated

>>20689880
Why? Did you mean it?

>>20682873
bet that he never finished FF7 nor any of the persona games

>>20688262
>0
BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA