>>20679495
Brock losing did no harm. I legit only remember him beating Cena’s ass from this match

>>20679495
Brock winning or losing doesn’t really matter. He’ll always be a freak of nature draw.

>>20679495
>Was Brock losing his return that bad?
Considering they had to have him break the fucking streak to recover his aura, yes.

>>20679495
>:41 - :44
jesus brock

>>20679495
>this was the last good WWE match
We haven't had a good wrestling match since Shibata/Okada Sakura Genesis 2017 bros...

>>20679495
I stopped watching before that, but you can see they were taught by the last of the old school guys. Terrible era for characters, but the wrestling still looks convincing there.

>>20679495
It was very stupid to return, have a match like that, and have it end in one of the biggest Cena Winslol’s in history.

The combination of this and Haitch killed Brock’s aura so badly they had him take the streak to bring it back.
And you now know that even they know it was retarded to end the match that way since they decided to run the squash back 2 years later with the right person going over and creating a far more memorable match despite doing even less.

>>20679631
cena literally won that match, as you can see in the webm. retard.

>dominated most of the match
>got a 3 count while the ref was missing
>Cena needed a chain to win
He was wrestling like twice a year back then idk why people think he should've won

>>20679610
I remember watching that live and thinking what the fuck Brock. He got so damn lucky on that fall its insane

>>20679644
Are you legit retarded?

>>20679495
This is probably the best WWE match of the last two decades at least
The finish was INCREDIBLY stupid though. They’re lucky it worked out in the end

>>20680400
Yes keep making excuse for Vince's shitty booking PG era babby

Both yes and no really. It hurt him to lose his big return and then he was sucked into a HHH feud. The Cena loss was probably fine but making him vs HHH a trilogy was a very bad move. Ideally though he would have won and Cena's "worst year ever" can keep playing out.

I can see what they were thinking, making the guy who walked out on them prove his loyalty first. It’s still dumb.

>>20680429
It didn't? Brock was gone until August, and then again until WM
Cena already lost clean to the rock

>>20680441
>making the guy who walked out on them prove his loyalty first.
He got to beat the ever loving shit out of the biggest face in the entire company. This was hardly any test, just shock for the sake of it.

It’s a magical match but that is probably a WOAT finish.

The HHH WM Loss and needing to cheat to beat him in their third match killed him

>>20679544
FPBP

>>20679495
They say wins and losses don't matter but this loss made Brock just another guy. As >>20679604 said, they had to give him the streak to make him mean something after this

>>20680920
It was a brutal rug pull. It felt like something interesting might happen and then it was just business as usual. Did it hurt Brock? No. But it was horrible business.

>>20679495
>smarks will tell you this actually sucks
these are the same grown dudes crying about cena losing his last match

>>20681973
This is the brock story always tho

>>20679495
Yes, it was bad. WWE is very lucky that Brock Lesnar has so much natural charisma that he can recover from losses like this, but this was a baffling decision on so many levels. And it gets even more ridiculous if we think that Cena lost against Lord Tensai and John Laurinaitis during this period

Not just this match but his feuds with Punk and HHH made him look like "just another guy"

I recall people like Bryan Alvarez shitting on it but I get why Brock lost… he had to pay his dues and it was Vince’s revenge for him leaving. But like someone said earlier in the thread it didn’t hurt him unlike the Triple H matches which stunk.

No, it didnt and anyone who watched it back then will tell you so. People were fucking pissed at another ridiculous Cena win and all of Brock's hype got deleted. The match itself was good but the finish destroyed any good will

everyone talks about the match, but the post-match promo was so weird too

>>20682748
did that even air on the actual ppv

>>20680422
Yes and he’s trans by the way.

I think Cena going over was sort of making Brock pay his dues after leaving previously. Other than Triple-H in their trilogy he didn't lose clean until that dumb Goldberg squash match four years later.

>>20682304
You could also say Lesnar coming back was Heyman's form of retaliation for being booted from ECW