in regards to the two people who got told off in that Unreal clip: i believe LA Knight recovered from it more than Lyra Valkyria did, because...> LA Knight still gets to be LA Knight no matter what Triple H throws at him.> Lyra Valkyria's scene in Unreal is the beginning of her end in wrestling. Her and Bayley never win the Tag Belts, Lyra turns heel on Bayley, two characters are ruined. Lyra's career is over, while Bayley today just needs to go away.at least we still got LA Knight don't we? YEAH!
>>20780034LA Knight is unironically in a good place because all the fumbling just increases fan reception so as long as you keep him on TV he'll keep selling shirts and collecting those bonuses for it
>>20780034>>20780040Except for the fact that he threw away any credibility he had by making a faggot gimmick and then poorly tried sweeping it under the rug instead of going to TNA or AEW for 5+ years in order to prove himself like Drew or Cody did. Even Drew had to work for a while to not be considered a shitter.
>>20780050Drew an Cody were younger than LA Knight is
>>20780050He already spent a lot of time in TNA, was more over than Drew there and was too old to go backHe's basically as successful as he's gonna get since he sells a lot of merch
it's very glaringly obvious that Bayley needs to go away (she's still miserable in WWE), preferrably to the Indies where she can become the greatest women's wrestler on the Indies.
WWE really ruined Lyra so bad to the point that I wouldn't even be opposed to the idea of releasing her from the company.
as for LA Knight, he's already kind of made, as a role player than a megastar.
LEMME DRAW FOR YA
even if LA Knight never wins the big one, at least he's more manly than Sami Zayn, and also isn't a pathetic geeky dorky nerd loser like Sami either.
>>20780034>its okay to cryYEAH LMAO
>>20781157Lyra has one or two chances. If this heel shit doesn’t work then they’ll throw Tatum at her unless they’ll have her be heel with Tatum. If this doesn’t work she’s done.
>>20782578nah, Tatum Paxley needs to carve her own path. there's still time for Tatum to show flashes of potential by staying away from serial lifetime losers.Lyra has unfortunately already peaked with her IC Belt run and her brief tag team with Becky Lynch. That was about as good as she ever got, until Unreal exposed her and kickstarted Lyra into being a serial loser with zero future.the official heel turn is just the final nail in the coffin for Lyra, while Bayley needs to enter the ring to face the "Please Retire" chants like how Big Show once faced in his later days in WWE.
>>20782642Tatum is not going to get over as a solo act instantly unless they pair her up with someone that makes her look good. People are familiar with the tag team. Have Tatum carry her and see how the crowd reacts to them. If Tatum is over then good and they could separate and Lyra can be bye bye forever. She needs interactions and not just “hey Rhea looks like me lol”
>>20780034Was it Paul or Vince that had LA doing the manager shit on NXT?
Lyra is far from the only one to catch Finn Balor-itis. even Penta, Jade Cargill, Rusev, Bron Breakker, Dominik Mysterio, Jacob Fatu (and eventually Oba Femi) all caught Finn Balor-itis as well, so much so that their WWE runs went downhill soon after.
>>20782673Yeah but those guys didnt beat iyo one time.
>>20782683Jade actually has a win over Iyo but that didn't make him cry.
>>20782749That’s actually very funny because Jade has been pushed WAYYYY more and should be getting the hatred reserved for Lyra.
>>20782801well, Jade Cargill's already facing hatred from the IWC. in Cargill's case, the IWC's hatred for Cargill stems from wrestling fans being white supremacist racists who are too whitewashed to understand urban culture.that's White Culture at its finest for you, since there's not enough diversity in wrestling. This is why the NBA and NFL are still respectable than wrestling, because wrestling is a white man's sport too out of touch with modern entertainment mediums.
>>20782889cry more brownoid
honestly, WWE just needs to release Lyra already like they should've done when they were about to do it, since that heel turn was obviously forced and clearly isn't working because it was a stupid fucking idea to begin with.ain't no reason for me to care about anything Lyra does for wrestling anymore. at this point, she might as well just leave the wrestling industry for a 9-to-5 job, because the more she overstays her welcome in wrestling as she enters her 30s going to mid-30s, the IWC's burgeoning hatred for her will eventually get even worse as time goes on.so therefore, Tatum Paxley must have her own path and avoid the same fate that recently fell on Lyra.
Here we go
>>20782670The manager thing was Vince once Knight got to the main roster
I would really like to understand how she's mindbroken people so severely.
>>20783547He broke one guy. Everyone else isAmbivalent and doesn’t really care about her this much.
>>20783547>Looks like you've been flagged, Im gonna have to take you to a room to do some extra screening and searches, ma'am
>>20782670Vince had him as a manager on the main roster, H and Michaels kept him in NXT for a while so he wouldn’t get fired.
>>20782889>hatred for Cargill stems from wrestling fans being white supremacist racistsShe just sucks, bro. Tiffy is the white equivalent of Jade and she gets the same amount of hate
