>All In is going to outdraw SummerSlam>Worlds Collide is going to get massacred by All OutWhen will WWE just throw in the towel and admit they keep embarrassing themselves by trying to hurt AEW?
>>20844493Summerslam has already sold over 40k tickets though. All In is like 10k behind. Keep coping though
>>20844501Anon, do you really think everyone who bought a ticket is going to one day?
>>20844493Knowing WWE they'll double down and escalate and buy TNA to try and put it on Wednesday or some shit. They'll counter book every show they can, at least. Doing that in the first place was the last straw for me btw, I used to enjoy them now and then now I just watch nothing. Pettiness like that just makes my skin crawl man.
>>20844506Summerslam is a collection of two events anon. Summerslam night one and Summerslam night two. It doesn't matter who bought a ticket to one night or both. They're still individual tickets sold and seats filled
>>20844511No need for that, they just need to put NXT back on Wednesday and Dynamite will go bellow 500k
>>20844511>Knowing WWEFirst off you sound so retarded saying this. Second you've proven just as fast that you don't know WWE or anything for that matter because TNA only JUST signed a new network deal this past year that they're locked into for however long. They're staying on Thursdays. Cry more
>>20844515This is the intelligence level of the typical WWE fan
>>20844517If USA wouldn't put up with that shit CW won't either. There might have been some crossover during B&G but there absolutely isn't now. How many dual AEW/NXT fans exist today honestly?
>>20844525TV shows notoriously cant change nights as a result of low ratings of coures
>>20844525WWE would have far more clout than Anthem and AMC is just doing an ad split. I would bet they would allow it if they get bigger names in exchange. You'd just need to point at how AAA improved.
>>20844526>the intelligence levelOne that's above yours? True
>>20844542State of that comeback mate
>>20844534>TNA show that's on Thursday>"Hey boss, this show ain't doing so hot. What night should we move it to?">"Good question. Let's put it on a night where there's other wrestling already on. That oughta help!"Thank you for confirming that you don't know shit>>20844539>WWE would have far more clout than Anthem and AMC is just doing an ad split.Contract's a contract though. If TNA signed on for x amount of shows then they need to deliver that content for them
>>20844493>AEW's biggest show of the year might barely surpass WWE's 2nd biggest show of the year but only if you count one of the nightsGood for them
>>20844548Because "WWE fans are dumb" is such genius material
>>20844554This guy thinks 45000 individual people are going to Summerdlsm
>>20844557If the glove fits
>>20844564This guy thinks if you buy a ticket to one night of Summerslam you automatically get in for the other night as well
>>20844564I didnt say that. We are going buy tickets sold. You do realize even a 2 for 1 ticket is gonna cost more than a single AEW ticket, right?
>>20844572Aw dude
>>20844549outside of the major league sports i dont think any entertainment has a day locked in i doubt even the netflix and usa contracts have that
>>20844564Do you know how retarded your logic sounds? NIght one and night two are two separate events. You're essentially arguing that anyone who attended a previous All In at Wembley shouldn't count towards this year's attendance
>>20844581An Edge reference? This is genuinely embarrassing material
>>20844586Yes, two events held in separate years and night one and two of the same weekend event are exactly the same thing.
>>20844585I don't know enough to say if this is true or not so I'm by no means going to try and argue you on it. Not something I had considered honestly
>>20844576So by your own logic that means WWE would have to run an entire second night just to boost numbers and barely outdraw AEW? This is the number one wrestling company in the world?
>>20844593Two separate events are two separate events anon. That's the line being drawn. If you buy a ticket for one show it is not valid for the other and it will not again you entry nor will it provide you a seat. It doesn't matter if the other event is one day apart or 365 days apart. They're separate events. The tickets sold between both nights count separately as well. You can cry and seethe and cope but it's true
>>20844602Yeah, that doesnt make them same thing. When you're reduced to cry seethe and cope, you've lost the argument. Just for future reference
>>20844596would be something both parties to agree on but something else to consider is that tko has a world class marketing teamthey made 314M in marketing and partnerships in 2025 as per their filingsthey could pull it off i was sort of reaching in the first place but i think they will do something maybe their thinking on being overly competitive in the first place was planning for this scenario
>>20844602This cope just makes you look even worse, just take the L
>>20844598Isn't All In supposed to be their Wrestlemania? Your comparison is disingenuous from the start when this is already supposed to be AEW's clear #1 biggest audience of the year.
>>20844640It's their All In, only Wrestlemania is a Wrestlemania. All In is closer to their Summerslam than it is to their Wrestlemania.
>>20844642What a fucking cope. It's their big stadium show of the year. It's always their biggest ticket sales of the year and nothing else comes close.
>>20844591>Edge'fraid that's Cope
>>20844615>>20844636>No actual argumentI accept your concession, retard.
>>20844564Prove that they aren't.
>>20844506Do you think if All In was a two-day event they would sell 30k tickets for each day?
>>20844642If All In isn't their biggest show of the year, why is it the one they keep booking the largest venues for?
>>20844655Yeah but it's still not Mania, which is a big cultural milestone. All In doesn't have that. Maybe WK does but building that legacy takes time. It's only the 4th one. >>20844668Are you gonna include the preshow as well? It's clearly labeled as a different show so that should count right?
>>20844692>Are you gonna include the preshow as well?No because they aren't selling separate tickets to the preshow. You can keep pretending you don't understand it to try and dance around the fact that Summerslam is raping All In's ticket sales but I know you understand it just fine. I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt, and let's say you genuinely don't. Go find a multi-day music festival going on. Any one. Buy a one-day pass and then go and try and get it on any other day of the festival with the one-day pass you bought. How's that going to go for you? Surely by your logic they'll let you in right? It's all "the same event" after all
>>20844501>Edophiles have to add up multiple events now in order to outdraw AEWLMAOOOO
>>20844850Why can't AEW put on 2 night events? Do they not have the fanbase? ROH was doing them 20+ years ago.
>>20844912Excellent question Shelton. NJPW has done two night Wrestle Kingdoms as well. So why can't AEW run a two night event as well?
>>20844839name a music festival that considers multi day attendance as their total attendance the only people retarded enough to do this are wwe and their fans
>>20844850WWE has been doing two night events since before AEW was even a year into existing
>>20844938Blow me bitch
>>20844953>across 3 us cities
>>20844962Correct. That's the entire point I've been making. Separate events under one umbrella show. Each event's attendance counts separately>picrelYou and him got btfo
>>20844938Do you not leave the house or something? It's VERY common for these multi-day festivals to count total attendance.>The U.S. festival season kicks off this weekend with the first days of Coachella 2026 (April 10-12), one of the first major music festivals of the year. Our chart, based on figures from festival organizers, shows that the California-based event drew around 750,000 visitors across its two weekends last year (six days in total, about 125,000 attendees per day), making it the largest music festival in the country by total attendance, well ahead of other major gatherings.https://www.statista.com/chart/36070/music-festivals-with-the-largest-total-attendance-in-the-us/
>>20844493None of that is going to happen but it's hilarious that you actually believe it will lol.
>>20844938Anon if you're working for an encyclopedia and they ask you how many pages the encyclopedia is going to be and you only tell them the number of pages for book A-B then when it comes time to print your ass is getting fired
>>20844973everyone at those shows are different peoplewhich is actually a great point we came up withif summerscam night 1 and night 2 were in different cities it might actually be more successful, even with the production budget it would be close but it might edge out with these low ticket sales
>>20844985AEWstans are truly fucking delusional "people."
>>20844990>everyone at those shows are different peopleHow do you know that? Fans travel around and have been following bands while they tour for ages
>>20844981they clearly made a distinction in your own quote and that's over a week not a weekend>>20844996most of the summerscam tickets were sold before any match was announced
>>20844990But the entire metric this whole discussion is about is "tickets sold" not "different fans."You're also kidding yourself if you think there are more different AEW fans than there are WWE fans.
>>20845002>most of the tickets were sold before any match was announcedBased? That's just the WWE brand's drawing power. People having the confidence to blindly buy a ticket to a show because they trust it will be good isn't a bad thing as much as you want it to be
>>20845002>that's over a week not a weekendAnd that matters why? They're all still a part of Coachella 2026. The festival could run for two days, a week, or 3 months. It would still all be Coachella 2026
>>20845003no the metric is different fansselling two tickets for the same show is just as useful as selling a shitload of merchthe two night thing was always just scam to get rights fees from tourism
>>20845007>the WWE brand's drawing power>22k for Slumberscam
>>20845016>no the metric is different fansNo it isn't. For example your mom needs to buy three tickets to any show she goes to in order to sit down. She's just one person but the event has still sold three tickets
>>20844515Gentlemen. The iq of an edrone on full display
>>20845016>selling two tickets for the same show>the same showYou're retarded beyond reasoning with
>>20844501B-b-but you have to count the days separately because...YOU JUST HAVE TO OK???
>>20845020cool so they should make summerslam an entire week where they sell 5000 each daythat means they have 35k tickets sales which would btfo all in
>>20845022Not only is he right anon but he explains it as clear as can be
>>20845030Why wouldn't you? If Summerslam is a show consisting of two separate events (night 1 and night 2) then why would you not count them both?
>>20845022You're so fucking dumb.
>>20845037Dynamite and Collision taped in the same arena in 2 nights in a row this weekDynamite had 3000 and Collision had 2800 so I guess that means Dynamite had 5800 tickets sold
>>20845052You're close but no. Because one ticket got you admission to both shows. The same way one ticket used to get you Smackdown and WWECW or Velocity or Heat etc.If you want to attend the entirety of Summerslam, both nights, you have to buy two separate tickets. Even if you buy a ticket for both nights you're still paying for two tickets. You enter the building, they scan your ticket, you watch the show, and you leave. Twice. Those are two separate events. Not two shows at the same taping
>>20845030It's a two night event. Why would you cherry pick a specific night and pretend that's the total attendance? With that logic, let's not count any of the floor seating for All In. Wow, now only 10k people bought tickets! AEW IS FUCKING DYING LMAOOOOOOO!!!!!!1111 That's the logic you're using, dipshit.
>>20845052It's not WWE's fault AEW doesn't have the fanbase to put on 2 night events. All In will still be in a 1/4 full arena no matter how much you post about how AEW's "winning."
>>20845052Actually I misread this. I thought you were saying Collision was taped during DynamiteThat is in fact two separate events. But they're also just that. Two separate events. They exist independently
>>20845052The difference here is that you can list off Summerslam night one's attendance and you can list off Summerslam night two's attendance the same way you can list off Dynamite's attendance and Collision's attendance. But Summerslam itself consists of the total of night one and night two's attendance. There is no blanket event for Dynamite and Collision. That's just Dynamite and Collision
>>20845064most of the audience for the show took the double ticket discount you moron >>20845077and it will still have more than slumberscam>>20845088aew wouldn't be stupid enough to glaze a 2 day taping in the same arena as a big accomplishment
>>20845052So fucking dumb.
>>20845052>Combing a week's worth of AEW ticket sales is still only 5800Anon you really shouldn't have mentioned this
>>20844942>I can add up the attendance from multiple WWE shows and compare it to the attendance of a singular AEW event because WWE has been doing 2 night events since before AEW existedEpigs are literally the most retarded retards on planet earth holy shit
>>20845093>doubleWhat does double mean you stupid cunt?
>>20845100He still doesn't get it
>>20845093>most of the audience for the show took the double ticket discount you moronThere is not "double ticket discount." You're just making shit up because your argument makes no sense.
>>20845099Dynamite was a sellout if that helps
>>20845116they do this on all of their two night shows maybe get a day job and go to some of them yourself
>>208451173000 tickets was a sellout?! What shitholes are they taping Dynamite in now? WWE does HOUSE SHOWS that draw more than 3000 people. I went to ROH shows like 15 years ago that drew more than 3000.
>>20845117>Sells out a Casa Bonita>THIS MEANS aew IS DOING REALLY WELL YOU GUYS!!!!1!!
>>20845117>3000 seats for a selloutIt's not great numbers but at least they got it filled. For what it's worth anon I don't even hate AEW. On the note of ticket sales I think they pick some really kino venues that add a lot of flavor to shows and helps make them memorable from each other. I just can't entertain the idea that doing 30k for Wembley is good when they're own record there was 70k. They can and have done so much better. It also technically isn't outselling Summerslam as annoying as the technicality there may be. Granted Summerslam has done better in past years itself too
>>20845126MGM Music HallIt was a kino arena and I hope they go back there next year
>>20845138Based. I'd actually love to see WWE run more intimate venues like that even if it means a smaller number of seats and tickets to be sold. TKO would never allow it though. NXT at least fills that hole
>>20845135>I just can't entertain the idea that doing 30k for Wembley is good when they're own record there was 70k. Between the low ticket sales and added production costs of going overseas, AEW has gotta be losing money running Wembley for this show. They should have moved to a smaller venue when it was obvious tickets weren't going to sell as well as the last 2 shows there.
>>20845135if summerslam was one night it would add 20-30% no more no lessthe wwe fans are just sick of the contentit used to be bloodline kino and now it's danhausen and nba dick sucking and dumb shit like thatthe big draw is cody and punk fighting over who's the most jewish in a shallow worked shoot where they walk on eggshells to avoid any of their real issuesyes the wembley numbers leave a lot to be desired but it's aew and your garden variety normie still doesn't have any idea what that is and for the record they don't know any new wwe wrestlers either. for al the talk of 2 days i think next year all in should be a 2 day show in a 30k arena which is way more their speed all in 2 was an anomoly
>>20845093>aew wouldn't be stupid enough to glaze a 2 day taping in the same arena as a big accomplishmentAEW filmed WEEKS of shows all at the same venue in Arlington, TX earlier this year and pretended like it was a huge accomplishment. The last two shows barely sold any tickets because fans just stopped going.https://www.f4wonline.com/news/aew/aew-announces-residency-texas-2026/
>>20845144they tried it with nxt but no one cared because all their viewers are elderly gooners but they could absolutely do that stuff with aaa
>>20845149Fully agreed. They ran it in Texas last year and it felt as big as Wembley the year prior. I don't know why they had to force it back there this year. They only ever ran it there twice. Even if it was back to back that isn't exactly a tradition that fans were clamoring for. If they want it to be their Wrestlemania then taking it around the country to different cities would help it become that as well. The reason the first All In did so well there in the first place was because if I'm not mistaken that was AEW's first ever show in the UK. So any fans in that country that was their first chance to see this new AEW thing and see all of these guys they never had the chance to see live before. No matter what card they book they're never going to recapture that kind of hype and attention there. Showed as much when they only hit 45k the following year
>>20845161are you fucking seriously comparing summerslam to zombie ring of honor?
>>20845164NXT has ran places like that recently though. They've done the theater in MSG and nearly sold that out a handful of times and always looks kino>aaaThose shows are really fun to watch for that exact reason. The variety in venue and presentation. It goes a long way
>>20845160Oh don't get me wrong. At no point in any of those am I advocating for two night events. I fucking hate them. I think it sucked for Wrestle Kingdom when they tried it. I think it sucks for Summerslam. I think it sucks for Mania too. It's not even like they try and fill the card to make it worthwhile. Which they absolutely could too. They just don't. You pretty much nailed it with the various points there. The reason Summerslam isn't selling as well as it has in the past is because they have stretched everything so thin. Between the creative and the cards to the price of tickets to spreading it across two nights
AEW ALL IN 2026 will have more fans in the building than either night of WWE SummerScam 2026. There will be fewer fans in the crowd watching CAWdy vs Punk than there will be watching Ospreay vs Omega. AEW won, clearly.
>>20845186Seek help. This is just fucking delusional. Only selling 30k tickets in a market you previously sold 72k is not "winning" by any metric. AEW is probably losing millions of dollars just by running this show.
>>20844501And all out is a paid ppv which means worlds collide will draw 10x the amount
>>20845205>third world esl monkey screeching seetheYou lost fatso.
>>20845205AEW wrestlers at All In will wrestle in front of a bigger live crowd than anyone on the SummerScam card will, and that's a fact. AEW won, it drew a bigger crowd, and WWE lost. Enjoy Danhausen-ing around that knowledge.
>>20845171cool nxt should tour regularly then i'm sure the coomer boomers will show up >>20845183i actually still think a two night all in might be viableimagine if they did it at arena mexiciothe sales would be shit but it would rule and be a sell outit would be balls to the wall kino and if the wwe 2 night events could facilitate that i would agree with having them but they have 5 matches per night with hours of popcorn chicken and dude wipes and other ads making up for it
>>20845229It's going to be hilarious when the turnstile count comes out and we find out Tony gave away thousands of free tickets again to people that didn't show up.
>>20845229>Danhausen out of nowhereToys escaping Tony's Toybox really mind rapes you freaks. You're STILL bitching about it months later.
>>20845236>more screechingNo one wants to watch WWE fatsoSummershit will be in an empty arenaNetflix ratings are plumetting
>>20845246I already told you, just because you repeatedly spam stuff on this board doesn't mean you can will it into existence. Your delusions are not reality. You are exhibiting what psychiatrists call Magical Thinking. You are mentally ill and need help.
>>20845235Nice headcanon, coper. It's going to be hilarious when AEW ALL IN draws a bigger crowd than either night of SummerScam. It'll probably have more matches than both nights of SS combined, too. AEW stays winning, WWE continues dying.
>>20845262>It'll probably have more matches than both nights of SS combined, too. AEW stays winning, WWE continues dying.SEE A PSYCHIATRIST. You are suffering from delusions. You are not well.
The tards and sarrs are not handling the summershit ticket news well are they?
>>20845271AEW ALL IN will have a bigger crowd than either night of SummerScam, and will probably have more matches than WWE will across both nights. >Le psychiatrist!Why don't you sit down for WWE on the psychiatrist chair and tell him why these facts make you so upset, see what he says about it. Because you seem very unwell here crying over objective, calculable facts & numbers that don't look good for the future of your pigfed.
>>20845288None of these are "facts." It's just babbling nonsense you're making up and think if you post them here nonstop that will magically make them reality. You're unwell.
Could you imagine if AEW made their Wembley shows two nighters and played the two nights is one attendance crap WWE pulls?
>>20845302Facts & figures don't care about your feelings. AEW won this time, now it's on you to learn how to deal with it.
>>20845316You don't have any facts or figures. You're making up nonsense like All In's going to beat the total attendance for both nights of SummerSlam even though All In's ticket sales stalled out at 30k MONTHS ago. They're already 10k behind, and SummerSlam is continuing to sell tickets.
>>20845326>You're making up nonsense like All In's going to beat the total attendance for both nights of SummerSlam You're lying again, pigshit. What I said was>AEW ALL IN 2026 will have more fans in the building than either night of WWE SummerScam 2026. There will be fewer fans in the crowd watching CAWdy vs Punk than there will be watching Ospreay vs Omega. AEW won, clearly.And>It's going to be hilarious when AEW ALL IN draws a bigger crowd than either night of SummerScam. It'll probably have more matches than both nights of SS combined, too.And just to reiterate>AEW ALL IN will have a bigger crowd than either night of SummerScam, and will probably have more matches than WWE will across both nights.You can pretend to not know how to read all you like, but you know WWE lost bad here. Tell the psychiatrist why that makes you lash out like this and make up lies & semantics on behalf of a company that doesn't care if you die.
This is a cope thread, straight up. If AEWfags did that, "but in two nights we have 40K" they would be rightfully laughed at. I don't give too much of a shit about console faggotry because both promotions suck dick right now due to the retards in charge being unfireable. But, the fucking cope in this thread is ridiculous. Don't let Paul off the hook for shitty booking. This is a laughable failure from someone who had a hot company just two years ago and managed to squander it completely because he couldn't book for shit. Add in TKO being a bunch of jews and killing their own product because green line up for the quarter.
>>20845371OK OK, BUT YOU GOTTA ADMIT THAT IF YOU ADD UP ALLLL THE TICKET SALES FROM SATURDAY *AND* SUNDAY, THE TOTAL COMES OUT TO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT AEW WILL DRAW IN ONE SINGLE NIGHT FOR THEIR SHOW!!! ADMIT THAT PLEASE, AND THEN SEE A PSYCHIATRIST BECAUSE YOU SOUND REALLY CRAZY RIGHT NOW ACTING LIKE IT'S A BAD THING THAT THERE WILL BE 50,000 EMPTY SEATS TARPED OFF FOR TWO STRAIGHT NIGHTS!! SEEK HELP FOR YOUR DELUSIONS
That’s sad that AEW isn’t close to either night of Wrestlemania with their biggest show. Wwe sales are way down this year as well. If AEW wasn’t so catastrophically bad this would have been a good year to make a move.
>>20845395If Tony had a brain, this is the time he steps down and lets someone else take the fucking book because it'd certainly be more interesting than what he's doing and he can focus on doing what he does best, throwing money- but this time at production and advertising instead of on some random shitter Meltzer likes.
>>20845371>This is a cope threadIt sure is, just not in the way you want it to be. End of the day AEWtists are trying to chase Summerslam with their biggest show of the year. Congrats on voluntarily lilbro'ing yourselves again. If you want to compare to WWE then put AEW's Mania up against WWE's Wrestlemania. But they never will
>>20845427>Ok ok ok, so AEW clearly won THIS round, b-but their show still didn't sell more tickets than WrestleMania!!!Cope harder to a psychiatrist, there's help available.
>>20844511>they'll double down and escalate and buy TNAThey can't buy TNA because of two things>The MLW lawsuit they lost for getting too close to antitrust violationsLeading to them working with TNA & NOAH in the first place, to show they can play nice to the American court system.>The Toxic Debt TNA hasThe debt TNA has is probably more that twice or three times it's value. Which at current time is below $40 Million. We don't know exact numbers, but it's said to be pretty dire.And to be real, there's just not a lot of value to WWE for TNA outside their tape library. What would be the point of buying TNA to run on their own dime against their own stuff like RAW, Smackdown, or NXT? To hinder AEW? They're already trying that with NXT & AAA and it barely does anything.If anything what they're doing now with TNA is their best option in a fiduciary duty sense. They can help them out as much as they want to hinder AEW without paying for a damn thing. And considering that TKO's pencil pushers are the ones from UFC, they're gonna save as much money as possible to make as much profit as possible by paying their talent as less as possible.
>>20845435Man, the see a psychiatrist post really mind raped you. You clearly have issues.
>>20845312Jesus they already give away thousands of tickets. I can't imagine how bad they would have to paper a second night.
>>20844576the cheapest Summerslam ticket is $25. the cheapest All In ticket is $39
>>20844493They have a Humiliation fetish
>>20845601A good psychiatrist would tell you that you are projecting here. Help is available.
>All In is going to outdraw SummerSlam>Worlds Collide is going to get massacred by All Out
AEW will Fight Forever. Meanwhile WWE is on its last legs, about to go down for good like Conor.
>>20845435Notice how you still have no actual argument here. All you do is cry and seethe over and over
>>20846321>the cheapest All In ticket is $39Now that the 50% off sale is done kek
>>20848709blud thought he ate with this one
"Could it be, JR?!?""I THINK IT IS KING! ""HE'S BACK!"https://youtu.be/ER07IVqSDw0
>>20848719>7 years agoKEK wtf
All In 2023 had 70k tickets sold. Did they overtake WWE after that one?
>>20848751Nope and they will go back to selling 3k at best for their weekly shows after this one too. One show in a wrestling starved country means nothing and they know that. Let them have their fun for the next 2 months. Shit's gonna get real bad for them after that.
>>20848713I accept your concession
>>20848751>>20848785He had no cope for this and moved to a different summerslam thread because he wants this to die
>>2084875181,035 tickets sold
>>20848751no they overtook them last year when dynamite began outdrawing their flagship show Raw on netflix
>>20844493WWE does suck and I hope it goes out of business. AEW is still worse.
>>20851188You keeping saying this yet you can't find a single source reporting this
>>20851184So AEW got hotter after that, i would assume...right?
>>2085118481k tickets distributed. Actual turnstile count was 72k. That means AEW gave out thousands of free tickets to people that didn't show up.
>>20851188We already told you, piggy, you can't just will stuff into existence by spamming it on this board. Dynamite is not getting more viewers than Raw no matter how many times you post it here. See a psychiatrist.
kek he seethin
>Raw ends>Epigs immediately cope post about AEWEvery week
>>20851265the comedown from slurping a giant bucket of e-slop results in a lot of shame. it's easier to lash out at everyone else than to look in the mirror and deal with it.
>>20844501They didn’t like this one
>>20851297They especially don't like that the total is up to 54k+ now.
>>20851265like clockwork
