The non-stop glazing of the G1 final by some of the most annoying accounts on X has negatively polarized me against it. I will not be watching it for this reason.
>aewtist refusing to watch real grapsMany such cases
>>21017580Good, we know you don't watch actual wrestling anyway and are just here to shit up the board.
>>21017580I hear ya. They desperately want this to be a spark moment. And they were going to glaze it regardless.
>>21017584Nigga U sound gay as hell>real grapsGuaranteed I've been watching NJPW longer than you.
>>21017595>I won't watch this widely enjoyed match in this company I claim I enjoy because too many people are praising itYeah, no one's buying any of this.
>>21017595Keep oinkin' elitepiggy
>claims he's been watching njpw longer than others in this thread>unironically thinks njpw peaked with picrelStop me when I start telling lies.
>>21017580Same, some of the essays these pretentious retards are putting out are insane
>>21018361I don't even think they're getting it right.It was a good match. But what made it a good match was that it was very back-to-basics. No outside interference. No going outside the ropes whatsoever. No ref bumps. Just wrestling doing core wrestling.It was refreshing because no one's doing that anymore. It felt like the cycle reset. Wrestlers should be doing this shit instead of all the other crap they've been doing. The other crap only works when it's fresh but it's gone stale.
>Reading twitter essays on matches before you watch the damn matches themselvesPretty great way to be miserable. You spoiled yourself out of one of the best matches of the year.
>>21017580This was the end of a major tournament and the “glazing” is nowhere near as grievous as that mask vs mask match in AAA a couple months ago the ago.
>>21018361What an absolute larp of an opinion, this retard is actually attributing long-form classically paced puro headliners to Okada/OmegaThey weren't chasing their ghosts they were having the match that Japanese main eventers have almost always traditionally had. Oiwa/Uemura had that kind of match, too, but with different moves and an emphasis on different superficial aspects that misled his low-functioning chimp-brain to think it was a different style altogether.
>>21018361Kek
>>21017580The divide is being driven from obsessed fedophiles and doomer nujamals, I cant for the life of me understand why some NJPW fans think less visibility is good for them unless its leftover sour grapes that WWE is not "partnering" with them. I cant wait for Himoru to debut to being in the bottom midcard and then never winning a match clean. kek.
>>21017580Based
>>21018390No single IWGP championship match crossed the 40 minute mark in the entire Tanahashi era beginning in 2006. The first one to cross the 40 minute mark since that timeframe was Kenny vs Okada. From that match on Jan 4 2017 to Jan 4 2021 there were only 4 title matches that went under 30 minutes. In the 4 years BEFORE the Kenny Okada match there were 17 title matches that went under 30 minutes.The poster is correct in their assertion that a certain style started "especially since Omega vs Okada".
>yummerino back to style bangerino that won't have any impact on the future of the company and drew the same as the hated outsider takeashita and based evil is truly the 10th best match of all time according to cagematch trannies that only watch post 2014 njpw and aew I can understand why
>>21017580It's largely nujamals trying to convince themselves and others that njpw is "back"I stopped watching in 2019 but will sometimes watch the big shows still if I'm bored. Personally I've never bought in to the new gen of njpw talent(umino, tsuji, etc). I'm simply not emotionally invested in any of them at all, were I to watch this Oiwa match it would not get more than a 6 from me due to the fact I don't give a fuck about the guys involved.
>>21020190As a nujamal, this is mostly correct.The company's problem is that it's tough to build talent in a vacuum. You need guys at the top of the card to put over the lower and mid carders in order to establish credbility. AEW snatched up the guys who should have build the current generation. This is a big part of why AEW fans might like NJPW but NJPW fans largely detest AEW.That said, it was a good match. The roster is reestablishing its credibility. It's not near where it needs to be but it felt good having a match that felt like things are supposed to feel.
>>21020190>Personally I've never bought in to the new gen of njpw talent(umino, tsuji, etc).For what it's worth, Oiwa and Yuya are the ones that people who were sour on the other young NJPW guys (like Umino) tend to praise
>>21020221This. Oiwa and Uemura came out of nowhere to jannetty the company's ordained new pillars. Part of why the match was so hype is that it wasn't fucking Umino
>>21020221>>21020232Everyone talked about the Reiwa Three Musketeers, but I've been saying Uemura was the real future after he returned from excursion, and I said the same about Oiwa as well.It's still to be proven whether I was right but I felt really vindicated after that match.
>>21020218NJPW had years to make Okada or Naito pass the torch to somebody and they never did, now they are both gone and also AEW never even poached Naito kek he just fuckin dipped. My point is AEW is only a small part to blame if at all, NJPW management are mostly at fault.
>>21020242Yeah, I've slowly come around and am not really blaming AEW or Tony anymore (despite not being a fan of the company just because the shows it puts on aren't my thing).Fact is, the pandemic should have leveled New Japan given its business model. Its expenses were way higher than any other wrestling company in Japan while it depended almost completely on ticket sales - smaller companies could weather those budget deficits but not a company the size of NJPW.Tony's partnership probably saved the company, and NJPW likely understood going in that the price was going to be the top of its card because Forbidden Door was ultimately a talent scouting show. And NJPW has done similar to other companies, there's no need for me as a Nooj fan to cry for it. But bad feelings, justified or otherwise, make for good rivalries and sometimes good rivalries make for good wrestling.All that said, as I mentioned, it just feels good to finally have something feel like it's supposed to.
>>21020242I don't really blame Naito desu he put over a fuckton of the main event generation that came after him once he ascended to the top in 2019 and they ended up wasting his hard work by leaving. He put over Ibushi, Jay, EVIL, ZSJ, Will, Jeff Cobb, Drilla, GOK, and most of them left. He let Taichi go over him as well to help boost him to the upper midcard. He also was the one that ended up undergoing the Moxley humilition rituals. It was moreso the job of the guys that Naito put over to work with the reiwa boys, not Naito himself. Okada was in business for himself though, he was allergic to putting over younger guys and only gave rubs to guys who'd be washed and out of the main event scene before him like Naito and Shingo.
You have to be a total retard to blame AEW for talent leaving because if AEW didn’t exist all of those wrestlers would now be in WWE and they would never be allowed to come back for matches ever.
why are dronies pretending they are watching a actual wrestling show when they turn their brains off for this
>>21020309Believe it or not, WWE has a limited number of wrestlers it can keep on the payroll. Your line of logic requires that it would have have dropped its proven hands just to make room to snatch up the top of New Japan's roster, something WWE had never done over the course of either company's lifespan.It's like I said here >>21020258. New Japan knew what the price of partnership would be but it was necessary to keep the company alive. And meanwhile Tony desperately needed a higher tier of talent than what he had hired up from around the American indies. End of the day it was a win-win but I don't have to like it as a fan.
>>21020337Derp.WWE wanted Okada, Jay, Osprey, Finlay, the bucks, Cody, omega, Jericho etc and didn’t get them because they lowballed them with the allure of wrestlemania. Without AEW existing they would all have had to take that deal because even though it was worse than the AEW deal it was far more than what NJPW were offering.
>>21017580Many are saying this.
>>21017580This was me with the Kenny and Okada matches. Doesn't even matter how great they may have been, everyone got so fucking annoying with it that I just couldn't bring myself care. Maybe I'll watch them one day
>>21020356First off, Omega, the Bucks, and Cody are separate from the others. They were the core of AEW. I think it's impossible to blame them for doing what they did. I don't blame the others but I'm saying, if there were blame to go around, these guys deserve less of it.Now, what you're missing is that, like I said, the WWE payroll is only so big and they already had bigger names than anyone in New Japan working on it. Hiring up all the guys Tony ended up hiring would have required releasing talent that was already better established among WWE fans and already earning them money. Name value trumps ring ability in this business and rosters can only be so big. WWE was never hiring ALL of those guys. What companies do is they throw out offers to everyone they're interested in, sign the first X individuals who accept the offer, then drop the rest of the offers because, again, they can't afford to hire everybody under the sun.Contrast this with Tony's situation, where, apart from a few names, he had a company filled with indy shitters and was in need of a main event scene. He would have been a fool not to jump on the opportunity. I don't really blame him.No "Derp" there. If you understood business you'd understand what I'm talking about.
>>21020158That's not a difference of style that's just a difference of length, the structure is largely the same aside from outliers like Tana vs SuzukiOkada/Omega did nothing but push match time and quality further but stylistically there was no shift
>>21017580Yep
