says mexicans aren't given opportunities, laments that they keep pushing samoans even when they don't get over(translated)"When WWE wants to make you a star, they make you a star—it’s that simple. There are wrestlers whom WWE has given chances to—maybe 20 or 30 times—sticking with them until they finally become stars. It doesn't matter how bad you might be; if they want to make you a star, they will. I feel like I never really got that chance—I was never given a real opportunity. But whenever I did appear on TV, I made the most of it. Whether I won or lost, I’d capitalize on those 10, 15, or 20 minutes to sell myself, thinking, "The audience is watching; I’m still relevant." That was always my mindset.Sure, I won a championship in WWE and all that. But I saw others getting chance after chance. I’d just think, "Enough with this guy; give someone else a shot," because Mexicans get so few opportunities. It’s that simple. Look at Humberto Garza—or just Garza, or Berto—they’re great friends of mine, but they haven't been given a real opportunity. When I returned to WWE, they told me, "We want you for AAA," but I told them I’d signed with WWE, not AAA. I know AAA is a great company, but it’s a national promotion—it’s a Mexican thing. A few places around the world might know it, but it’s not WWE.https://falsefinishhq.com/andrade-el-idolo-a-los-mexicanos-no-les-dan-oportunidades/continued...
>>21104082based asfWWE having a miserable week lmao
You want to be a WWE star, not a AAA star; I’m already known here in Mexico. Now that they’ve been given the *Perros del Mal* role, I hope they do really well, but the scope of the work is different here. If you go to Saudi Arabia, they don’t know what AAA is—they have no idea. If you go to Scotland, they don’t know what AAA is. I’m not trying to badmouth it; that’s just the reality. I’m already known; I was already a star in Mexico. Maybe I didn't sell out as many arenas, but I’d already done it here... I wanted the chance to be a star in WWE, not AAA. People question me about returning to the Council (CMLL)—it’s only for one date, maybe two—but I look at Berto (and Garza): both are in great shape, they look good, they have the height and the charisma; they have everything it takes to succeed in WWE, yet they aren't given the opportunity. They had Escobar (Santos Escobar), and they didn't give him the chance either."his comments on samoans preceded this, with him stating things like"Santos Escobar never got the opportunity either. There are a lot of wrestlers who don’t get it. Maybe this is going to sound bad… you talk about the Samoans, but a lot of them—the majority, not all of them, right?""Roman Reigns, of course, he made it. He did it. But there are several of them who haven’t, and they give them opportunities and give them opportunities, and they’re still there, they’re still there, they’re still there.""I’m like, ‘They’ve already been doing it for 20 years.’ You can’t force it, gentlemen. You can’t force it. I’m like, ‘This guy has already been doing this sh*t for 20 years and he still hasn’t gotten it.’ I’m like, ‘We didn’t get that opportunity.’”"https://www.sescoops.com/article/andrade-el-idolo-accuses-wwe-of-giving-samoans-more-chances-than-mexicansfull interview (2 hours, in spanish but with AI dubbed english track): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHXBb2I2gg0
>>21104082andrade fucking sucks and santos escobar sucks toohe's pulling the race card because he's a complete shitter
>>21104082Kinda nuts how WWE have gone all in on trying to destroy CMLL with AAA. It's made the main product suck balls even worse than usual
>>21104088>andrade fucking sucksNah, he doesn't. Your posts is sour grapes.
>>21104088andrade is goated with the sauce, nose fumbled
>>21104082I fucking love this guy. He was dropping bibles of truth on this interview. Santos is dimeless but he and the others had at least midcard potential. Andre got himself over in AEW like he should have in the big E if he'd been given a chance instead of wasting main events on Solo and fucking Talla Tonga
They’ve pushed the shit out of Penta since the moment he set foot in the company. Andrade, Santos and the Garzas are dimeless jobbers.
>>21104102I'm not sure what's sour about the grapes considering I've been calling him a shitter he dropped the mask and went to NXT, called him a shitter in is first AEW run, called him a shitter in his second WWE run and am now calling him a shitterHe's a shitter, and though he's right about the coconuts (roman too, he was just too pussy to call romanetty dimeless), he's wrong about himself and other beaners being worth shit.>>21104107Thanks for the update from planet retard
Half of Raw for weeks now has been them promoting Mexican wrestlers
>>21104117penta should have gotten a bigger push relative to how over he got. andrade is right about this. they were giving solo world title shots and main event level programs back when he was 0% over. penta is super over and he's only now getting a single world title jobbing opportunity.
>>21104082Racist coconut lovong fed
>>21104082>There are wrestlers whom WWE has given chances to—maybe 20 or 30 times—sticking with them until they finally become stars. It doesn't matter how bad you might be;who's he talking about?
>>21104144he was married to the biggest case of this maybe ever
>>21104082>>21104121This, I lose respect that he says all this but is too cowardly to name Roman specifically and even puts him over.Roman's a dimeless bitch
>>21104082They guy has a point anons
>>21104082dont know why hes complaining because he always got a decent push. you can only go so far in an american based wrestling promotion if you cant speak the language. he just sounds stupid when he tries to speak english. del rio got a bigger push because he was physically bigger and more intimidating and didnt sound as stupid as this faggot who married an actual tranny
>>21104082ok...how u know?
>>21104082>>21104085The irony of this is that Kaiser and Gable became mega stars out of this, so clearly Andrade still doesn't have the full scope of things and just wants to cope about it. He's right in that WWE pushes who they want out of twisted optics, but if you can be a certified star in a promotion related to it, you should fucking take it. If you're booked well, people will remember that, regardless of where it is. That's a simple truth of wrestling. Because that's the kind of standard that gets held to the wrestler and how they should be handled. Look at Gunther, Giulia, Asuka, Roman, Cody. People who were booked well before and now they aren't and people fucking can't stand them. Good writing is always the most important thing.
>>21104082>wahhhh why didnt they push mecause you're fucking dimeless maybe
>>21104202tryna sneak asuka in the flop pile
rough week for fedophiles
>>21104224She became over because she was booked like a female Goldberg. It's literally her biggest accomplishment in WWE and it was a big deal. Then she came back and did jackshit with Damage Control and they handled her like absolute SHIT in her feud with Iyo to where both she AND Kairi left.
>>21104082Escobar only worked in NXT for wwe they tried and failed several main roster pushes
>>21104245yeah but it's wrong to imply that "people can't stand her" she's not in the same category as gooner, poolia, romanetty or cawdy who have at various times had go away heat.
mexicano here from actual mexico and not a fucking pochoAndrade is THE GOAT, far more than most of the shitters in AEW and CMLL, but just below Rey (both), Penta and Dragon Leehis only issue is that the faggot, due to mexican genes, REFUSED to learn english, and WWE was on the right for firing himnacos and chocos AKA sangres podridas have this inhuman decency to straight up baby cry if the stuff isn't presented towards them in spanish, rejecting other languagesPeople like Pentagon JR, Rey Fenix and Mysterio had to obligatory learn the language because they had the hunger, and after he sucked Flair's tits, his hunger was saciatedanything else that he said specifically about samoans is true, and I say this while being AFRAID SO
>>21104266You know what, fair enough. She always seemed to be liked. I guess Jey is a better fit.
>>21104289>below dragon lee
>>21104202None of the people you named except Giulia flopped or is unpopular with the audience. Stop smoking crack bro.
>>21104301ok fine, both are the same level, maybe a bit abovebut Dragon Lee isn't baby crying about the fucking language, that's why I put him above Andrade
>>21104304Whatever helps you cope piggy
>>21104082basedrade saying what we all think
>>21104289Penta fucking sucks dude, americans love him because he wrestles the PWG indy spot monkey style
>>21104082I would counter with the beaner nepotism especially with Domink but he's basically reduced to being a Dude Wipes™ mascot that jobs for Danhausen so thats now moot
Why are we pretending it's not a good thing that WWE doesn't push every dimeless spic that walks through the door? Because fed bad? Aren't they pushing Angel and Humberto in AAA anyway though?the show that outdraws AEW now? Seems like Andrade missed out, he would be the leader of the Perros i bet. Instead of doing a nothing comedy gimmick in the midcard of the minor leagues being astroturfed by sexless permaonline fat smelly retards.
When WWE was in something of a hot streak a couple of years ago and the crowds were all sellouts they would have the mexicans get twenty minutes plus of screen time on every smackdown and without fail they would always stink the place up and kill the crowd
did not expect Andrade to be kicking off a race war but here we fucking go
>>21104082>>21104085If Gable hadn't proved he-s better than all WWE wrestlers combined, including being 100 times better on his worst day than Gaytch at his absolute prime, in AAA, they would've never given him the IC title.So Andrade is wrong.
>>21104723samoans have the support of blacks who are incredibly loud and annoying so it's a losing battle
>>21104736the IC title is fucking worthless man, it's not the 80s anymore
>>211041442015 Roman reigns
>>21104706>Andrade>PerrosThe nigga would fire himself again if they asked to do it
>>21104742Compared to Andrade's National title? HAHAHA fuck you faggot, Andrade is a midcarder for life. That's what he was in WWE. That's what he is in AEW. Good for him being an easy first defense for Ospreay. Who knows? Maybe he would have gotten a Roman burial if he stayed?
Why can't anyone in AEW go 20 minutes without talking about WWE. It comes off so second rate.
>>21104742Could be. But it was a big step in Chad Gable's career. It's completely ridiculous that he had been in WWE's main roster for 10 years, always performing at top level, without ever winning a singles title. It's so fucking stupid that in the span of time he had never won a single solo title, absolute shitters like Jinder Mahal, Kofi Kingston, or Jey Uso became fucking world champions.I'll agree with Andrade on that part. When WWE gets high on a shitter, it takes something big to convince them otherwise. However, Gable made it because of AAA. There's no doubt about it. AAA gave him the platform to be recognized by everyone, something that WWE would've never given him.
>>21104082Kel. So the nepobaby posters are wrestlers. All makes sense now
>>21104082Didn't this guy leave WWE to go to AEW for 5 minutes only to go back to WWE only to return again to AEW. Maybe the reason he was not pushed more in WWE is because he is unreliable.He is semi-right about the Samoans though -- American promotions should just have one token Samoan and one token Mexican/luchador.
>>21104082its true they got vince and hhh on video eating shit literally
>>21104117penta got pushed to IC tittle useless shit and currently jobbing for roman
I think sikola and fatu are good. usos are just there for me. never care for roman or OTC. Rikishi was dimes. Meng was dimes. and that other guy who did the coconut was dimes. I like a bunch of mexican wrestlers, luchas, even island beans but teh best andrade was njpw black mass cmll andrade.
>>21104289>from actual mexico and not a fucking pochoas if that makes your opinion better its acutally less no one give a shit. your not a paying customers poor ass retard
>>21104289>guys all mexicans suck but not me!literally like pajeets
>>21104117For a while until gaytch's favorite dog Seff buried him into the the New Day and then the Vision's jobber vortexBy the time Andrade was still in the company Penta and Fenix were jobbers, it even became a meme in the latin communityIt was only after AAA and World's Collide opened the a can of worms that he won the IC title and every latino guy except Santos got pushed.
Santos would not have a WWE job without being a nepobaby lmao
since were shoot talking non kayfabe about mexicans. They really need to train up their referees. they got old men not paying attention letting wrestling do low blows and use foreign objects in the tights!
>>21104976Neither would Cody
tripple HHH is a racist i dont care what people say trump supporting racist pos who married the bosses daughter then conspired to kick the boss out
>>21104289I agree that samoan neposhits suck, but Andrade makes a good point:>It's not about learning english or not, Santos knew how to speak, but he sucked as a character despite being good in the mic, and Brock doesn't need to talk because his character alone is an attraction.I mean he banged prime Charlotte he had to speak somewhat, and his current catchphrase is "How you know?"But I could I agree with Andrade's character being ass despite being a great workerSo it think it's WWE having an obsession over characters likeThe only guy that really was a diva that refused to learn and it actually affected his character and and matches was Mistico's Sin Cara
>>21105003>talk because his character alone is an attraction and has Paul Heymanslight correction*
>>21104976Most companies work this way, this is why Penta and Fenix are outliers
WWE will suck coconut cock and balls for as long as The Rock is alive. They'll slurp and slurp just for a crumb of attention from him.
>>21104202>people can't fucking stand>Asuka???
>>21104085>"Roman Reigns, of course, he made it. He did it. But there are several of them who haven’t, and they give them opportunities and give them opportunities, and they’re still there, they’re still there, they’re still there."didn't have the balls to actually shoot on Romanetty getting forced for two decades. cuck interview
>>21104289>nacos and chocos AKA sangres podridaswhat this means?
>YAAAASSS BASED SHITSKIN DUNKING ON OTHER SHITSKINSWhy are chuds like this?
>Look at me. Look at this face, look at this body, look at the suits I wear, and look at the way I carry myself. I am not just a wrestler. I am an international superstar. I am El Ídolo.For years, people have tried to tell me how to speak, how to dress, and how to fight. They think because they do not understand my language, they can look down on me. But the truth is, when I am in that ring, everybody understands exactly who I am. My talent speaks louder than any microphone. I don’t need to scream to get respect. I demand it, and I take it.You think your favorite wrestler is good? You think they are a 'star'? They are boys playing a game. I am a grown man who has traveled the world, won the biggest championships, and beaten the absolute best in Mexico, in Japan, and here. Every time I step through those ropes, it is a masterclass. I have the speed, I have the power, and I have the lineage. Wrestling is in my blood. It is my DNA.So keep talking. Keep making your jokes.
>>21104144I literally don't know. Charlotte was overpushed but she was already a star via being Ric Flair's sperm. Everyone else WWE has tried to push that has failed has either gotten fired or disappeared to midcard permanently. Andrade is a fucking retard that intentionally got himself fired from WWE AND AEW because he thought he wasn't being used enough. He's a dumb fucker
>Look at the television screen right now. Look at what this business has become. Everywhere you turn, every single week, they are forcing the same things down your throat. They give away so much time, segment after segment, just to check a box. They think that by putting more and more women on TV, they are making history. But the truth? They are just watering down the product.This is not about being nice. This is about professional wrestling. This is about star power. When people turn on the television, they want to see the absolute best. They want to see the main event. They want to see El Ídolo. But instead, the valuable minutes that should belong to a world-class athlete like me are being handed out like candy.You cannot force star power. You cannot manufacture the aura that I have. While they are busy trying to give everyone a chance and fill the show with countless segments, the prestige of the entire program goes down. I am a grown man who brings ratings, dignity, and real championship history to that ring. Every minute I am not on that screen because they are busy overcrowding the card is a minute this business loses its value. Stop trying to please everyone, stop forcing what is not working, and put the focus back on the real draw.
>>21104082So glad this self mark spic left the big leagues. Now he can do flips in high school auditoriums with the rest of his indie and spic beaner friends.
>>21104742>the IC title is fucking worthless man, it's not the 80s anymoreYou ARE retarded
>>21104723Someone needs to blow the whistle of the blatant coconut nepotism that has been going on for the better part of a decade. Just dimeless shitter after dimeless shitter hired and pushed because they came out of the right set of balls.
>>21104082Learn English. That's it. You're making so much money, and you're fucking an American nepo baby at the time? Learn fucking English. Otherwise you are announcing you want to just be a mute mexican. A mexican't.
Andrade is objectively better to push as a singles star than Jey Uso>BUT DA YEETINGNot an argument
>>21104082I feel Santos has much bigger right to bitch than Andrade. He wasn't pushed to the top but he was on a fucking lot. It also played to his strengths by having him and Carmello putting on workrate matches. Mean while Santos got his faction cucked and would disappear for months on end.
>>21104082samoan nepotism badmexican nepotism goodmasked mexicans dont count
>>21104082Lol why is everyone so afraid to call out Roman? Everyone knows he was manufactured horse shit. But okay. I guess its easier to point at Jimmy and Jey and all those other jabronis like Fatu
>>21104289>mexicano here>Mysterio had to obligatory learn the languageReal Mexicans know Misterio Jr. was born in California and went to school in San Diego, that's why his English was always good. Like Konnan, who moved to the US when he was 2 and even served in the US Navy. Dominik was also raised in the USA, in case anyone is wondering. Eddy Guerrero, too.
>>21105030Of course they will. Did you see that Wrestlemania this year? Holy kwab. It was fuckin awful. The last time it was good was when the Final Boss was there. They're literally a dead company without The Rock now
>>21104082>Sure, I won a championship in WWE and all that.This is actually his most relevant point about current wrestling. Both WWE and AEW have too many belts and too many title changes to the point where everyone involved realizes how diluted it is.
>>21106188The belts don't even matter anymore. Youve got random people like chelsea green jobbing every night. They used to actually determine your power level. Now they're just shiny plastic toys
>>21104740Why do black people support Samoans so much? Can someone actually explain this? Its such an interesting thing to me. At least a hundred times more interesting than current wwe. I used to think blacks only supported Roman after so long because it was like a Floyd Mayweather thing, where even though everyone hated him, they just started respecting it after a while because he just kept winning
>>21104144Just me UCE!
>>21106165Afraid a rabid fanbase will drag them down. Everyone knows Roman floundered for years but will go "I guess it was the right call because he is a mega star now".
>>21106229Listen to how Samoans talk and their mannerisms.
>>21106229Because they see Rock as black so the rest of the Samoans get the pass by association
>>21106355>>21106404It just feels weird seeing them give so much support to them, sometimes even over their own race. I feel like they would probably cheer Roman instead of Oba Femi at a Wrestlemania main event.
>>21106229There isn’t one universal reason, and it’s important not to assume that all African Americans support Samoan Americans. But in WWE, several factors can make that support especially visible:-Shared appreciation for representation: Black fans may identify with seeing performers of color succeed in a historically white-dominated industry. Samoan wrestlers have built one of wrestling’s most prominent nonwhite wrestling dynasties.-The Rock’s broad appeal: Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson is both Black and Samoan, and many fans see him as part of both communities. His success created a strong bridge between Black audiences and Samoan wrestling culture.-Family and cultural pride: WWE’s Samoan wrestling families—the Anoaʻi and related wrestling lineages—have produced The Rock, Roman Reigns, The Usos, Rikishi, Yokozuna, Umaga, Solo Sikoa, and others. Fans often support them because their family story and cultural identity are distinctive.-Similar experiences with stereotyping: Black and Pacific Islander performers have both sometimes been reduced to racialized characters or physical stereotypes in entertainment. Fans may recognize that struggle and celebrate performers who gain creative control and mainstream success.So the pattern you’re noticing is probably a combination of racial solidarity, admiration for successful representation, The Rock’s unique connection to both communities, and straightforward enthusiasm for popular WWE performers—not a single shared political or cultural position.
