whatever happened there
>>21118142genuinely in what world did tone think these guys were ever going to hit the level that Kenny, Mox, Jericho and Cody were at when he came up with thisMJF was the only one who was ascending to it at the time
>>21118142jungle bitch will never be top guy material. he can wrestle but he's a manlet with a literal baby face who cannot talk. sammy is just an immature fucking retard. 2/4 isn't that bad though.
mjf would be a better manager than wrestler. jack perry, wtf kek he's shorter than daniel bryan and way shittier than him in the ring. only one who had potential was darby cause of his look and marketability. sammy i never understood the appeal of. he was a product of astroturfing.
>>21118161hilarious in retrospect how Jericho pulled a magic trick to get Sammy over as fuck with the Spanish God promos putting him over, and then all Sammy did with the spotlight was make repeated attempts on the lives of the Hardy Boyz
There's nothing new to say about this
>>21118142One of the worst gimmicks ever thought of
All In and Dynamite were both great btw. I guess that's why you're still spamming threads and talking to yourself like a schizo. Hidden.
>>21118142Damn it’s like AEW gave 4 young dudes a shot instead of pushing the same 50 year olds
You know Dan Severn predicted all this.
>>21118169he was only ever going to go so far. he looked like shit. couldn't promo. wasn't really main event material in the ring. this is a problem with alot of aew people. they don't put everything together well enough and the booking is dogshit so nobody really crosses that upper ceiling.
>>21118142the talent pool outgrew 2 of them
add 2 more because aew is the six flags of wrestling hahaaaaa
Perry was tolerable when he was a comedic tag team guy. Became complete cancer once he tried to be hardcore.
>>21118142ceiling is short for pillars who are 5'6
just one of the many cases of AEW putting the cart before the horse
>>21118142>led to the collapse of the entire companydidn't help that AEW stans replaced 3 pillars less than a year later as more toys were purchased
>>21118307>>21118161>>21118156Did you see Perry's completely dimeless entrance at All In? 7 years in. He NEVER had it.
They all become huge stars and had great runs.
>>21118169>make repeated attempts on the lives of the Hardy BoyzBased.
>>21118142>MJFDoing fine, one of the faces of the company>DarbyDoing fine, not quite a face of the company but obviously still one of the top guys. >SammySorta get why he was pushed - real heel potential in his squeeky voice and punchable face, attitude problems that can draw real heat in that "people will pay money to watch someone shut your mouth" kinda way. Unfortunately too much of a self-mark bitch to be of any use to the company, especially from the moment he decided he wanted to be a babyface onwards. Kinda funny that he's only the third most hard to work with guy in LFI. >PerryAnti-draw that was only ever over due to a theme song he openly admits he doesn't like, doesn't matter though since being the reason CM Punk was fired will ensure he'll always have a safe spot in the company even now that even the most tribalist sickos are completely silent about him.
>>21118156I wouldn't say Darby is a pillar of the show even though he is extremely over. He's very situational and you can't book the whole card around him, same with OC. Whereas MJF can absolutely be seen as one of a few guys the promotion revolves around and who the entire booking is supported by.
>>21119742>completely silent about himthere isn't much to say. he is actually a good wrestler but he doesn't have the intangibles to make it to the top. he isn't forced as much as moxley, or jericho post-pinnacle, he's just a midcarder so he's where he belongs for now.
>>21118142Jack Perry doesn't have that much charisma, Sammy rubs people the wrong way, MJF and Darby are both former AEW Men's World Champions.
>>21118142Just compare, Tonedog was high on whiteclaws and 8 balls when he decided to name 4 pillars in AEW and of he didn't name them then he should've never promoted the idea.
>>211181422 out of 4 ain't bad
>>21118142>Not a single one clears the 5'10 markGrim
>>21118142NuJamal did the same thing with the Reiwa Musketeers and it just eternally KWAB'd the 2 out of the 3 named that weren't on that level
>>21120111Only the bottom two are legit. The top two inspired too many shitters to me considered great
>>21120130>eternally KWAB'dqrd?
>>21119764>>21119742The problem with Darby is he just doesn't want to be that week in week out carry the company kind of guy like MJF does. He just wants to do crazy shit then take a break for a month to do more crazy shit. But he is definitely good enough to be a top guy in AEW. Also underrated how popular hes over with women since he follows the Jeff Hardy mold.
>>21118250wtf does even mean?
>>21118142Daily Reminder: this was an invention of CM Punk.
>>21118142The 4 pillars of AEW are:>homosexuality>transgenderism>flips>lack of muscle
>>21120322People aping their shit and doing it worse/without understanding what made it work is more proof of how good they were
>>21118142Why were all the pillars 5'7
>>21120630Pillars wouldn't work very well if they were different heights.
>>21118142>4 SHITTERSI heard MJF is running around pretending he's still AEW champ despite not being a main eventer anymore. Just jew shit, I guess.
>>21122256It's aew. They'll drop the angle next week and not explain why.
If /pw/ fags knew anything about the indie scene before the money mark showed up you would realize none of them have evolved one single bit. Their gimmicks were and still are this:>Scarf>Skateboard>Panda Hat>TarzanEven Jericho called them out on this and they still never changed
>>21124557>Panda Hatkwab TK dumped both those losers
>>21119742Straight up, Darby is the one I thought would fail and had a terrible look, but won me over the most. That lil nigga is based as hell. The rest? I think MJF is doing fine. The other two were never going to be anthing and it was funny that anyone was deluding themselves to believe that. Jungle Boy is tiny and Sammy was always midcard at best. THOUGH, he did have the pathway to becoming a bigger star if he just turned heel with Tay, but nope.
>>21124557Jericho constantly saves that show
>>21125072Exactly the same. Though Sammy could be good if he went full scumbag heel. He just won't, because he's mentally sensitive (sad boos 'bothered' him at one point).
>>211181423 out of 4 being upper card/main event guys isn't too bad honestly
>>21118142>the four pillocksmjf and lil nigga are the only two that were any goodjungle perry is a dimeless shoot cookiepuss guevara is peso-repellent and magnetic to sexual-harassment
>>21118142The pillars were toothpicks and it all came crashing down.
>>21118142They all got the pendelum swinging and now AEW is close to overtaking wwe thanks to their efforts early on. So they all are based in my book
>>21118156Yes he will
>>21118142>PillarsJack Perry and Sammy are fucking shitters. MJF and Darby are pretty good though.
Why are aewtists pretending that Tony and the fans weren't already changing who the Pillars were a few months after this team of pissants were announced?Hell ya got Tony saying just a few months ago that Sasha and Osprey were Pillars. He has zero grasp of what that even means, he's just doing his usual poor imitation of shit he saw other feds doing.
>>21120121Rollins met MJF irl and towered over him like Enes Kanter did over the WNBA tranniesSurprised the Khans don't own a WNBA team
Tony Khan can't book
>>21118142I'll tell you what happened: this piece of shit mark put four indy shitters over, without any provocation, what so ever.
>>21118145>genuinely in what world did tone think these guys were ever going to hit the level that Kenny, Mox, Jericho and CodyTony is just numb to social context and hyperfocuses on the physical movement aspect of professional wrestling because his mind can only focus on one thing at a time. If you realize that wrestling to Tony is literally all about choreographed movement, it makes sense that JB, Darby, MJF, Sammy are and all better than Mox, Cody, Omega, and Jericho. Tony can't comprehed why they aren't.
>yet another E-drone seethe threadAll 4 of the pillars are massively successful. The amount of 3rd-world headcanon in this thread is truly disturbing. Cope harder.
Tony's booking is total garbage
>>21131745nah you are
>>21131742Not even mjf is successful and he has the biggest chance
>>21131749nah you Tony cocksuckers stink and so does your discord
>>21131770he's literally better than anyone on WWE's entire roster, so you're just wrong
>>21131772>mind immediately goes to sucking cock and discordtherapy. now.
>>21118142>MJF obviously has accomplished the most by far>Darby is a close second and is still heavily featured>Jungle Boy, well every company needs a solid midcarder, and they love The Scapegoat in Japan>Sammy literally can not stay out of trouble unless TK appoints Dustin Rhodes to be his personal accountabilibuddy.
>>21131849Sammy won on another level, because the first out of all of them to get married and have a kid. Sucks that it hurt his career so much, I should be doing DBZ shit with Ospreay.
>>21118142But who was the 5th pillar?
>>21131902Britt Baker.
>>21131902THAT'S GOTTA BE HOOK
>>21131849LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
>>21118142Who are they? I don't watch indie wrestling
>>21135263Nobody important.
>>21135355This
>>21125088Everyone loves to say that Jericho is the master of reinventing himself. But you cannot reinvent genetics. He'll always be a 5'7" baby man.
>>21118161>only one who had potential was darby cause of his look and marketabilityDarby's problem is that he's a selfmark piece of shit manlet who just wants to be extreme to compensate for being a midget.
>>21118142It actually makes a lot of sense. Half the guys on the roster are shitters, and the other half are amazing. We just need to give it time and separate the wheat from the chaff.
>>21118648>REAL GLASS wasn't ready for the big time after allSay it ain't so.
>>21118648Who is perry?
>>21131895Hi Sammy
Has Tony made one star? there has to be at least one AEW fan here who can answer this.
>>21118142Maybe that's why NXT raped them last week?
No wonder NXT (which is basically Evolve) keeps beating aew
>>21138577if you ask AEW fans, AEW hasn't made any stars. They're in denial that wrestlers likeMJFSwerveToni StormDarbyHayterStatlanderFletcherTakeshitaFTRand on and on received huge raises, they all insist AEW's expenses stayed exactly the same as they were in 2024 before they got a new TV deal. The reality is they already spent their entire raise and got basically nothing to show for it.
>>21142164Are you saying trannies think those you listed are stars?
>>21142597It seems like he's saying they are stars, but AEW fans don't believe it, so he can in turn say they have recieved raises, for being stars, and somehow own Tony for spending his dad's money.
>>21118142MJF is clearly a world class talent and the truest success of these, he is inarguably a pillar of the companyi love darby but tony won't go all in with him, it's unfortunate because i think he can be up there with MJFjungle bitch is total garbage, biggest case of sunk cost fallacy in wrestling, he should be in the X division but instead he gets to challenge mox PBUH for his title, tony is so fucking stupidsammy was clearly cody's pick and he's also a flop, but at least even retard tony recognizes that
>>21118142They are all still draws besides sammy
>>21142726Sammy is on the same level as all of them. Not a draw
>>21118142pillars of what exactly?
>>21143399No milly
>>21142726Nobody's paying to see Jungle Bitch or Coffin Flop.
Before he died the AEW fan on here said they were stars, not sure what changed.
>>21118142More like 4 twinks
>>21147016he only liked the Four Shitters because one of them rolled around just like him same reason he loved Cora Jade with her skateboardhe also loved that double amputee from the inaugural AEW Casino Gauntlet that Cowboy Page won
>>21148012Popped me or pooped me for PDW
