This is what jobbers on Heat used to look like and they came out to licensed music. Now wrestlers look like kids and they come out to generic AI slop music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPQeCmaoR-Y
>>21138491That match has more in-ring psychology than every modern wrestling match excluding Roman's Main event matches
>>21138491Justin'd be a hoss in AEW. He'd absolutely dwarf Omgea, the Bucks, Darby, and whatever flippy vanilla midget is Tony's favourite toy du jour.
>>21138491Don't call Sean O'haire a jobber.
>>21138755He's not telling you something that you don't already know
>>21138491this thread again? he was never a jobber on those shows. he always won his velocity matches. fuckin retard.
>>21138823It hurts my feelings because it's true
I got him to a 70 in popularity on TEW and then he got a back injury facing the Undertaker and now can't even do angles for 13 months. I had big plans for him.
>>21138892What year did you start?
>>21138510They're calling this the most Indian post on this board
>>21138971Started in April 2001 and I'm in August 2002 so not exactly impressive, but him and Chuck were eating pins most of the Invasion.
>>21139265>Sean and Chuck eating pins during invasionUnfortunately accurate. He's also going to just job probably when he returns in november of 2003 right?
>>21138491Competition was fierce back then. O'Haire would be a top guy (in WWE) now.
Pretty much everything was better 20 years ago.
>>21139311I've upgraded to XI now so this save might die anyway unfortunately. I never got to book Sting/Taker or Austin/Goldberg. Maybe I'll convert the save, but thinking of just starting a fresh one in 04 because I kinda wanna go TNA.
>>21138491Sean was supposed to be the next big guy but he couldn't cut a live promo and was always on drugs.
>>21139034stop being a bitch
>>21138491Sean O Haire has a great Wikipedia page.
>>21138491He certainly had the look, could go in the ring, and backstage his segments were pretty goodhe just couldn't promo in the ring.I just didn't understand why they just didn't have all his promos pretaped in back then.heard it would take him like 10X to get it right.
>>21138730>but AEW
>>21140696I think being a WCW guy did him in. Very few WCW guys went very far in WWE.
>>21138491>>21138510If you called that psychology just because they went 4 minutes and started off with a collar and elbow tie-up while transitioning to working the arms, you'd be blown away by whatever two matches they tossed onto WCW Saturday Night in the late 90s. Please don't google Ring of Honor during the early to mid 2000s. Your head might explode. >>21138730aEw InVaDeS mY eVeRy WaKiNg ThOuGhT!Save me Jim Cornette!!!
>>21140739Probably because they could wrestle and that's always been frowned upon in WWE.
I wonder how the aesthetic of his vignettes came across in like 9-11ish America. I wonder if it was just a TV writer copying a gimmick from Bill Maher or something
>>21140739Vince had something against almost all of them for some reason.
>>21138491>>21138755why did he fail? he had a dimes look and kino gimmick
>>21142893Smackdown during that time was shifting away from the edgy "Blue Raw" brand image to something more friendly to networks and advertising. His gimmick would have been better suited to ECW, he'd be great as a rival to CM Punk's straightedge gimmick
>>21142893couldn't do live promos and old man piper completely outshone him
>>21142893A big part of his push flopping was he was initially teamed up with Roddy Piper as his manager, but Piper got fired. Vince either didn't want to push him without Piper, or just scrapped the whole thing out of spite.