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TIME TO LAY THE TARPS
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>>21397346
This type of console warring makes sense when it's between people who watch AEW and WWE, but why do you have this hate boner for a small Japanese indy that's just trying to make ends meet?
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>>21397346
lay the tarps on /pw/ because this is the first new thread in 3 hours lol
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>>21397346
They are simply social distancing
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>>21397348
>This type of console warring makes sense
it doesn't, actually
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>>21397346
That's the legendary Hardcam Hall!
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>>21397368
To be clear, I was being charitable.
Criticizing WWE is arguably punching up. Criticizing AEW is arguably punching back.
But criticizing Marigold? That's punching way down and kinda cringe af. It's a small struggling indy lacking the marketing and resources of the companies this "meme" usually applies to.
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Nxt japan struggling
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imagine trying to babyface marigold and rossy
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>>21397405
No one's trying to babyface Marigold and Rossy. It's a company with good and bad. But it's a really fucking weird target to start a "lay the tarps" post about because everyone knows they don't draw big attendance numbers in the first place due to being a small Japanese indy.
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>>21397409
Then dont run venues for 10,000 people when you cant draw 500 to Korakuen?
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>>21397346
>>21397393
>2100人
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>>21397448
Look man. You're using cherrypicked images taken when the show isn't even going. That's how all these posts work.
It sorta almost makes sense when you do it to make fun of companies that are claiming massive attendance numbers. It doesn't make sense when you're using it to punch down on a struggling indy that's just trying to get its wheels going. It's like picking on a retarded kid.
If you don't get why that makes you look like you've got some weird axe to grind I really can't help you.
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>>21397461
>You're using cherrypicked images taken when the show isn't even going.
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>>21397488
Great. So you've proved the struggling indy is struggling harder than anyone else might have imagined.
Bravo. Totally not a weird axe to grind bro.
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Fifth biggest joshi promotion:
1. Stardom
2. Sendai Girls
3. Sareee-ism
4. TJPW
5. Marigold
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>>21397346
Why isn't wwe helping its partner promotion?
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>>21397527
And there it is. The real reason anyone is picking on Marigold.
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>>21397448
It’s a good point. Objectively their fanbase and reach is nowhere near big enough to warrant booking venues like the Kokugikan. Rossy’s hubris
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>>21397539
Will be Marigold’s downfall. He can’t expect backers to keep pouring money in forever. Just ask Shoichi Arai
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>>21397539
>>21397541
Maybe he got a good deal.
He's been doing this a little longer than you have, I always think it's hilarious when people who have never worked in the business think they see things that people who have been doing it for decades supposedly don't.
Literally what people mean when they talk about "smarks."
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>>21397548
>He's been doing this a little longer than you have,
Looking at these photos, it don't feel like it
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>>21397568
Great, maybe you should go start a wrestling company then. You can make a bunch of money and fix the business.
You obviously think you could do better given the resources he has at hand.
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I was surprised when Hiro got fired from the dam project, but now I think it makes sense that he was fired; he's a
finished man.
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>>21397346
Rossy is old, washed and mostly checked out. The promotion mostly exists for him and he's got 0 fresh ideas to bring to the table. No matter who he had this was pretty much always gonna be the outcome.
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>>21397520
I'd put Marvelous ahead of Marigold comfortably. They did 3500 in Buntai this year, which is a number Rossy can only dream of
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>>21397350
Truth nuke
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Slopdom is so bad the Bushidrones would rather count the attendance of other promotions instead of watching their own shows.
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>>21398669
I can do both, actually.
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>>21398672
You can, but everyone knows you don't.
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>>21398676
You don't know me.
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>>21398678
Or do I... son?
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>>21397548
I remember when Rossy split from AJW and formed Arsion. His approach to building a splinter group to challenge his previous employer was far more sensible (initially, anyway) than what he’s done since Bushiroad gave him the boot. The old man just hasn’t got it any more. Feel free to explain otherwise, without resorting to “how’s your fed doing”, if you can.
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>>21399102
Just to be clear, I'm not really a Marigold apologist (I watch sporadically - sometimes I'm entertained, sometimes I'm not, much like with AEW or WWE), I just think it's stupid to shit on it all the time. I'm not going to "how's your fed doing" because, if you're watching the joshi scene, you're probably watching Stardom which is what I watch anyway and we're doing pretty good, if dropping off a bit.
I'm willing to bet Rossy was working with better resources when it came to Arsion. Marigold arose out of different circumstances anyway. Morale was at an all-time low in the Stardom locker room just months prior and there probably was quite a bit of talent begging him to do something. So he started drawing up the plans he was probably originally waiting for his official exit to draw up and started feeling out people in the roster to see who would join.
And he was counting on a lot more joining, which was why he made his statement that anyone who joined later on would have to start at the bottom. But it was hubris. Okada made short work of the morale problem and Rossy's roster never materialized. He's been working with whomever he could scrap together and not run off.
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>>21397520
tjpw trannies catching strays kek
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>>21399226
They deserve it, they're some of the worst posters on this board and I suspect they also make up a good chunk of the hiddenfags
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>>21399239
"Indy" doesn't designate size but rather whether a company is owned by outside interests so, no, try again.
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>>21397348
It's a singular AEW pedo who is mad Mayu left Stardom for Marigold.
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holy shit that anon took this one personally
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>>21399517
You're probably talking about me since I'm doing most of the pushing back but naw. I don't even watch much Marigold.
I just really don't see the point of punching down on it. As far as most people on this board are concerned, all joshi companies are the same company so it comes across less as bashing Marigold's attendance and more of a comment about joshi attendance in general.
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>>21399503
something’s not right with this fella
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>>21397346
Mayu killing Marigold is absolutely hilarious
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>>21397520
2026 Japan Attendance As Of September 30
>New Japan - 224,003
>Stardom - 86,567
>NOAH - 64,160
>Dragon Gate - 61,603
>All Japan - 47,085
>Marigold - 32,308
>TJPW - 20,514
>Kyushu Pro - 18,065
>Big Japan - 12,464
>Michinoku Pro - 10,946
>Oz Academy - 9,610
>GLEAT - 7,925
>Itabashi Pro - 7,790
>WAVE - 7,167
>FREEDOMS - 6,360
>JTO - 5,408
>Osaka Pro - 5,311
>2AW - 4,743
>Ice Ribbon - 4,541
>Sareee-ISM - 3,896
>Marvelous - 3,492
>SEAdLINNING - 2,903
>Strong Style Pro - 2,838
>Actwres Girl'Z - 2,361
>Ganbare Pro - 2,326
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>he believes rossy fake numbers
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>>21399631
They're verified numbers. Unreliable numbers (like DDT and Sendai) don't get included.
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>>21399649
They're the opposite of verified, they're Rossy's imaginary numbers where he adds 25% and has it end in 0 or 5. Verified numbers for Marigold would be doing headcounts, but then the MGDF attack people for doing that and revealing the real number.
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>>21399836
>they're Rossy's imaginary numbers where he adds 25% and has it end in 0 or 5
>Marigold - 32,308
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>>New Japan - 224,003
>>NOAH - 64,160
>>All Japan - 47,085
Inoki Won. Baba and Misawa in the mud.
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rossy lied

maricold died
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>>21399649
>They're verified numbers.
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>>21399887
>no bro, i just know that can't be true, here, trust my headcanon numbers!
So what's your source for the real numbers.
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>>21399895
My fucking eyes.
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lol who verified the numbers?
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>>21399896
LMFAO.
Honest question, why do you watch shows of a company you obviously hate.
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I accept your concession.
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Yeah, "my fucking eyes" ain't a great answer when you don't even actually watch the shows dumbass.
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Your concession has been accepted, you can go now.
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>>21399916
Faggot can't even (You) me he got btfo so bad by this point.
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>>21399174
>He's been working with whomever he could scrap together and not run off.
He had a lot more talent at his disposal in the beginning, even if it wasn't nearly as much as he was expecting, and I would say the scale at which he ran Marigold then was largely commensurate with his roster and the level of interest that they carried. His failure to adapt in response to losing main eventers and consequent interest has created a company with no identity or direction, and even if the wrestlers want to do well, Rossy has not inculcated an environment within which they can develop. It's no wonder that the talent turnover is what it is, particularly in those from the original Stardom group he poached. He should get that in order before thinking about running 3000+ seat venues. Shinno photobooks will not fix that problem (but Miyabi Yamaoka ones might bring in enough money to plaster over the core issues for a while)

I would like Marigold to succeed, but I'm yet to hear a compelling argument as to how their current trajectory will lead to success, and see the company either continuing to tread water, or fold when the money eventually dries up. This is just my perspective as a fan.
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>>21399949
Yeah, I agree with this take wholeheartedly.
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>>21397460
That's not even close to 2100 either lmao

>>21399226
>>21399235
Please an hero Creg.
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>>21399949
Rossy has been a blight on joshi for decades. I want Marigold to fail purely to spite him and so the mythologizing around him that Meltzer and Fumi have built can be destroyed. He basically spent most of the 2010s at about the level where TJPW is now and then got lucky that Kidani really wanted to fuck some failed idols and bought Stardom and began autistically throwing Bushiroad's weight behind it at the cost of sinking NJPW's business to the point where they had to sell it off and he got forced out of his own company.
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>>21399992
Back to your containment general teejfag
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>>21400014
Ok Kenny
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>>21400024
TJPW can actually draw real numbers. Rossy has his fake numbers and a weird personal grudge against TJPW. When is TJPW's failed trainee going to debut for Marigold again? Tenth time's the charm, right?
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>>21397460
got to be a typo, 1200 is the real number
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>>21400051
As I've mentioned countless times, I really don't give that big of a fuck about Marigold. I watch Stardom. Don't really see the point of warring against the minor leagues unless their fans start getting uppity.
But I can see where a teejtranny might care, so, yeah, it's all coming together now. I thought OP was some dronie punching down but it's actually just an attempt at a proverbial dick-measuring contest so, please ladies, have at it.
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>I watch Stardom
KWAB
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>>21399625
>WAVE - 7,167
>Ice Ribbon - 4,541
I'm sure the twitter trannies would be saying Wave and Ice Ribbon were 6 months away from closing 20 years ago too, but they're still around
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>>21400159
Lmao, shut the fuck up teejtranny.
Ain't nobody watching the friendly girls.
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Continue selling for me, Startroon
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>No! You can't hit me back after I ineffectually take a swing at you! That means you're selling!
Cry some more about me putting you in your place, faggot.
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Kek you do be malding
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>>21400296
Cool, maybe when I'm all done I can be bald like you... though I guess I'll get fat and grow out a neckbeard if I really want us to match :)
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Fine speech. Still finna +1, gotten to hiddentroon
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>>21400317
Nah, you keep +1ing, we just havin' fun here.
You're alright and so's the Teej my fren.
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>>21399529
based defender of the joshis
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>>21400067
>Don't really see the point of warring against the minor leagues
because it's funny to see people like you have a lil melty and type a bunch of cringe
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>>21400067
Stardom and Marigold are the same thing. Stardom would be nowhere if Kidani didn't sacrifice NJPW for it.
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>>21400324
Kek based
Actually I watch both promotions but us joshigods gotta rib each other to stay sharp so we can keep on top of the dronie menace
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>>21400569
Exactly right, that's why we own this place why others just seethe in our wakes!
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>>21400186
Ice Ribbon can close tomorrow and nothing of value would be lost
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>>21400569
>>21400581
>unhide a joshifag thread for once because it seems that they're finally waking up to how faggoty they all are and started console warring
>they're actually just slurping each other's cocks and play fighting
lame. rehidden
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Rossy banking on Shinno gravures saving the company a month from now. Seri alone hasn't been enough.
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>>21400796
It's cute that you pretend you're actually hiding them when everyone knows you lack the impulse control for that.
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>>21400813
My body is ready for this play
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Only Tony Khan can save Japanese wrestling.
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>>21397346
i see lossy is still booking like lossy



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